When Velious comes....

[Bodybagger]

....will red repeat history?



http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16490



Shits classic.... just sayin...

[Infectious]

They gota make it so the sleeper can be awaken. Gona be nice seeing guilds go hard to key up, gear there members and then awake the sleeper to cock block the rival guild.

[Bodybagger]

eh... guardians get replaced and still have goog loot, and sleeper when killed dropped nothing. *shrug* I never got all the major fuss about it. 100% confirmed velious doesn't effect my PVP other than trolling with summon monster spell on mage and other various new spells that come haha

[Baugi]

They gota make it so the sleeper can be awaken. Gona be nice seeing guilds go hard to key up, gear there members and then awake the sleeper to cock block the rival guild.


Won't somebody PLEASE think of the gnome bards?!

[Infectious]

eh... guardians get replaced and still have goog loot, and sleeper when killed dropped nothing. *shrug* I never got all the major fuss about it. 100% confirmed velious doesn't effect my PVP other than trolling with summon monster spell on mage and other various new spells that come haha
Ummm all the good stuff stops dropping...
Shroud of longevity, smolder, sod, danity gloves, writ of dragon and about another 10 drops. After awaken all that will drop is no drop weapons.
Most of the items, if not all are bis items.
So to answer your question. It is a big deal. Kind of like once vp is cleared no mobs will drop anything but junk.

[Bodybagger]

But, how far beyond 2BiS are those BiS items? Is there something second best anywhere remotely close to it or a huge jump that is class defining and gamebreaking for pvp? Remember, pvp.. what we are here for?

Other than fapping to your pixels knowing it's BiS.... does not having it drop in game any more honestly impact PVP, what the server exists for?

You're thinking too blue grasshoppa.

[Infectious]

eh... guardians get replaced and still have goog loot, and sleeper when killed dropped nothing. *shrug* I never got all the major fuss about it. 100% confirmed velious doesn't effect my PVP other than trolling with summon monster spell on mage and other various new spells that come haha

Compared to what dropped, to what will drop after sleeper is awaken proves how dumb you are. 2 BIS items? I guess we all dont wana be locked out of gnome masks huh?

[Infectious]

Give you an example.... Playing a healer class here vs a caster.... you can essentially heal til they OOM, as nukes aren't as efficient as heals generally. Running OOM 1 nuke away from scoring a kill sucks when all you can do is cast to kill. So in that sense a pure caster can be hell form some people unless you are more or less always prepared with FM for attacks.

Versatility is biggest factor for me I think though, and gear dependency, as being new to server you won't have it, so some classes are worthless without it. I enjoyed shaman on blue, but I love shaman on red. I love mage on blue but barely enjoy it on red as it has NO versatility... pet classes are tough as you have to gate away if you get caught with your pants down low mana or something, though that's most any caster class... gate or plug... really that's everyone I suppose... but I don't plug.

I love rogue but pvp don't enjoy them all that much... everyone can see invis which ruins my favorite part of being a rogue. It's just jousting for backstabs *Shrug*

Gearing characters is hugely different coming to red though. Items that had almost no value before are incredibly expensive, and vcie verca, because of resists. All lsots you go for resists > all else, and then othe rstats good for oyu like int/wis or stam/str are considered a bonus after haha

One of your other posts... Play a healer, you can just out heal them while they nuke til there oom and then kill them. Fuckin clown.

[Bodybagger]

One of your other posts... Play a healer, you can just out heal them while they nuke til there oom and then kill them. Fuckin clown.

Quotes me... then fails in changing what he just quoted. Comprehension > you assclown.


Show me where I said "then kill them"

[Bodybagger]

Compared to what dropped, to what will drop after sleeper is awaken proves how dumb you are. 2 BIS items? I guess we all dont wana be locked out of gnome masks huh?

let me clarify since reading isn't your strong point;

Compare the Best in slot item, to the second best in slot item, then tell me the difference is game breaking or a huge advantage? It's a pvp server.... unless it gives them an almighty edge over anyone else being able to take them on, it doesn't really matter... it's just pixels to lust for man... FFS

[Baugi]

let me clarify since reading isn't your strong point;

Compare the Best in slot item, to the second best in slot item, then tell me the difference is game breaking or a huge advantage? It's a pvp server.... unless it gives them an almighty edge over anyone else being able to take them on, it doesn't really matter... it's just pixels to lust for man... FFS

SoD struck me as really broken at the time; it doesn't offer any pvp utility I guess, but 300dmg procs are pretty bonkers.

I'm not sure what you'd consider 2nd BiS, but shroud was similarly head and shoulders above stat wise. Velious is general starting shifting towards measurable stat increases instead of game changing procs/clickies.

[Infectious]

SoD struck me as really broken at the time; it doesn't offer any pvp utility I guess, but 300dmg procs are pretty bonkers.

I'm not sure what you'd consider 2nd BiS, but shroud was similarly head and shoulders above stat wise. Velious is general starting shifting towards measurable stat increases instead of game changing procs/clickies.

Or smolder with a 280 dd proc. But hey, whats a couple stats right? Im going to just scare pvp away with my monster summoning.
OMFG! Here comes a giant named vohn... Run!!!

[Not_Kazowi]

None of the loot that warders drop is game breaking.

[Littlegyno 13.0]

None of the loot that warders drop is game breaking.

primal? fungi robe? sod?

[Bodybagger]

You are not the beautiful pixels you wear. You are not a beautiful and unique snowflake.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDpENE6yPV4

Pixel improvement is masturbation.... pixel destruction.... that just may be the answer.

[Not_Kazowi]

primal? fungi robe? sod?

Shroud is cool but it's not game breaking. SoD is just a twink item and priceless will drop if primal stops dropping. Warder loot is cool and nice to have but its not a deal breaker end game

[fred schnarf]

sleeper fight was the gayest shit ever 90% of the people just watched and every wizard just tried to manaburn the kill shot instead of killing thing in a reasonable time frame

even mentioning that raid is pretty lame

[Bodybagger]

sleeper fight was the gayest shit ever 90% of the people just watched and every wizard just tried to manaburn the kill shot instead of killing thing in a reasonable time frame

even mentioning that raid is pretty lame

....he said as he was mentioning that raid.



I am just wondering if a) red will awake before blue and b) if one server will kill him (seems likely inevitable he will die when encountered by the zerg here vs on live)

I think it's more of a dick move to kill him on blue than red. I think on red it doesn't really matter if someone wakes him, just takes a few meaningless pixels out of game. On blue that's all they have to look forwards to though is getting in on rotation of those items in 3 years of lawyer questing.

All I truly care about in Velious is The Warrens, and taking that place over to enjoy my throne next to the Muglwomp.

and new quests for phat no drop gear... and spells...

[Humerox]

they need to make him unkillable. like he was meant to be.

[Bodybagger]

they need to make him unkillable. like he was meant to be.

They let him die on live. Not meant to be unkillable. Killing him irrelevant anyways, just killing guardians and waking him removes them all from game anyways. Same end result, and he personally has no loot table so who cares?

[Baugi]

They let him die on live. Not meant to be unkillable. Killing him irrelevant anyways, just killing guardians and waking him removes them all from game anyways. Same end result, and he personally has no loot table so who cares?

Only by popular demand; he wasn't designed to be killed and it doesn't make any sense in the lore (before or after).

[Cfred0-]

Everyone roll blue to awake sleeper like the fucktards did on EQ Mac lol

[Bodybagger]

Everyone roll blue to awake sleeper like the fucktards did on EQ Mac lol

lol All red players roll a joint guild on Blue, grind to max level, and zerg to rush waking sleeper as ultimate red99 attack on other players :D

[gobletsmashing]

lol All red players roll a joint guild on Blue, grind to max level, and zerg to rush waking sleeper as ultimate red99 attack on other players :D

If all red players rolled a join guild on blue - whatever guild that was would dominate all , anyway.

[Gotze]

Isn't the SoD proc a stun if i can recall? Not too terrible for pvp imo