Serious question for GM's

[Bodybagger]

I'm not an important high end raider/pvp'er... I'm no neckbeard, no basement dwelling addict, no one of real consequence... just like I was, and just like all of my friends were back on live at launch. I'm just a guy that plays video games for fun in my free time when I'm not doing anything else... for fun and entertainment, if you can imagine that.

I also enjoy forums... I am o fishing forums for the fishing I do, car forums for the car stuff I do... and this forum for the Elf Simming I do.

What I don't understand... is how the bad people (from what I observe on here) get banned, make other accounts, and keep being bad... or get to come back... is it just some sort of optical illusion or do the awful people just never get kicked out? It isn't as though you're getting subscription money form them and have a reason to put up with them like on classic... are the problem players permanently removed or do they just get to stick around making the box worse for everyone?

And speaking of boxing... what is up with the rampant accepted boxing here? I thought that was a no-no?

Thanks for the fun box,
Bodybagger
(seriously goog guy and curious/concerned citizen of Norrath)

[Milton]

Yeah you're better than the rest of us nerds, also, tl;dr

[gobletsmashing]

where there's a will, there's a way

[Milton]

Oh I read the fishing part, p nice, lets see your catch?

http://i.imgur.com/I3SfiwW.jpg

I love fishing too, I may have miss judged you.

[harnold]

I think ip bans should be given out more frequently at least to weed out some players. Not everyone had the tech saavy or desire to bypass their ip bans.

That said, the gms here enjoy spending time dealing with player drama, just look at the raid scene on blue that they set up. Guild raid suspensions are a common and normal part of the raid scene.They'd rather have drama and people misbehaving otherwise they'd implement a raid system that doesn't require petitionquest.

[Bodybagger]

Yeah you're better than the rest of us nerds, also, tl;dr

If you feel included in my statement, then yes, you are intended to take offense to it. Taking offense to it means you think you are a problem player and make the box worse. If not, then shut up and go play. Stop pretending you don't have time to read when you are posting and commenting all day. I didn't say anything negative directed towards people for playing a game for fun and social interaction. Nothing at all wrong with that, unless you are an addict and spend way too much time and get too worked up over it in an unhealthy way.

I am just genuinely curious since there seems to be a very defined core of problem players that reoccur over the year or so since I joined and I can't help but wonder, as a sane rational person, why that is...

[loramin]

They'd rather have drama and people misbehaving otherwise they'd implement a raid system that doesn't require petitionquest.

Yes, the only logical explanation is that the GMs enjoy wasting their time moderating players. It couldn't possibly be because, even after years of running this server, they haven't been able to come up with a system that "doesn't require petitionquest" (and doesn't just result in a single guild dominating the server TMO-style).

It must just be that they are masochists.

[Kergan]

Oh I read the fishing part, p nice, lets see your catch?

I love fishing too, I may have miss judged you.

I hit the hardwater for a bit this weekend, all my fishing pals pumping out kids and shit it seems like I fish less and less each year.

[Bodybagger]

I fished a tourney on a powerplant lake Sunday. Had a killer day prefishing Saturday and would've been in money but the big motor went down when battery shorted internally overnight charging.... closest walmart was sold out of suitable replacements... seriously bad times. First of the year and essentially put me out of running for point so I will probably not fish rest of series. more time for elf sim I guess...
/insert'didwejustbecomebestfriends'.gif

[Sirken]

I'm not an important high end raider/pvp'er... I'm no neckbeard, no basement dwelling addict, no one of real consequence... just like I was, and just like all of my friends were back on live at launch. I'm just a guy that plays video games for fun in my free time when I'm not doing anything else... for fun and entertainment, if you can imagine that.

I also enjoy forums... I am o fishing forums for the fishing I do, car forums for the car stuff I do... and this forum for the Elf Simming I do.

What I don't understand... is how the bad people (from what I observe on here) get banned, make other accounts, and keep being bad... or get to come back... is it just some sort of optical illusion or do the awful people just never get kicked out? It isn't as though you're getting subscription money form them and have a reason to put up with them like on classic... are the problem players permanently removed or do they just get to stick around making the box worse for everyone?

And speaking of boxing... what is up with the rampant accepted boxing here? I thought that was a no-no?

Thanks for the fun box,
Bodybagger
(seriously goog guy and curious/concerned citizen of Norrath)

to address why its so hard to get rid of bad apples, it short, its 2015. we have banned tons of player accounts and IP addresses as well as many proxys & VPNs from the site and the server, but its really really easy to get new IPs and roll a new account. if you are simply referring to forum infractions, we allow them back on a new forum account because players need forum accounts to access the petition & bug forums. as far as in game crimes against norrath, most of them (2boxing included) start as suspensions, and not bans. when we ban a player its permanent, and if they want to change their ways and put in the effort to reroll a new account, we let them. we believe in second chances, and the ability for people to change. sometimes good people just make a bad decision, and we dont feel they should receive a life sentence for that. that said, there are absolutely certain truly heinous acts that will result in us no longer allowing a person to play here.

<3
Sirks

[Milton]

Tourney fishing sounds pretty fun, havent done any derbys since I was a kid. Just been doin it outta tradition really, me and the pals every spring goin HARD for King Salmon. Fun fights and if the bite isn't on ya can always just jig for halibut or shoot some seal or otters. Love life in Alaska except for the internet =/

[nixar]

i agree with this =))

sometimes good people just make a bad decision, and we dont feel they should receive a life sentence

[Milton]

P.S. Sirken can you make sure big H doesn't ban me for subbmitting a plat dupe exploit pls?

Also, saw the word that got me banned in serverchat forums all over the place, consistency. HEH

Paying it forward,

Fame

[Bodybagger]

Can't you just block certain subforums when you ban them? leaving ability to report/petition but silencing them effectively? Since if that is the intent, they obviously abuse the hell out of it and just continue forumquesting right through their suspension/ban?

I'd personally enjoy seeing new bad players rise to the top... I get weary seeing the same 5 people fight with themselves about which is a worse version of themselves. It's all very confusing for new players. I can't figure out who I am supposed to hate... all of them I guess? It's hard because I don't directly interact with most nay of them I suppose... I just observe them on forum and ooc and YT/Leaderboard, the 3 channels for drama. Perhaps if I played directly with them I would understand more...

There should be a stickied guide for newbs at least showing a brief description of what makes each guild terrible, and who the dirty whistles are... its like a high school cafeteria and none of the new kids to the school know where to sit because the goths and jocks and band geeks are all dressed the same and sitting at one big round table yelling across at each other. I just want to know where to sit sometimes instead of thinking this school is just comprised of one single giant group of douchebags, of various brands.

:confused:

tl:dr = Need soap opera TV guide to follow the drama around here :D

[HippoNipple]

i agree with this =))

sometimes good people just make a bad decision, and we dont feel they should receive a life sentence

and sometimes good people get caught making bad decisions 3 times while streaming video evidence of them still playing regularly

[Milton]

Can't you just block certain subforums when you ban them? leaving ability to report/petition but silencing them effectively? Since if that is the intent, they obviously abuse the hell out of it and just continue forumquesting right through their suspension/ban?

I'd personally enjoy seeing new bad players rise to the top... I get weary seeing the same 5 people fight with themselves about which is a worse version of themselves. It's all very confusing for new players. I can't figure out who I am supposed to hate... all of them I guess? It's hard because I don't directly interact with most nay of them I suppose... I just observe them on forum and ooc and YT/Leaderboard, the 3 channels for drama. Perhaps if I played directly with them I would understand more...

There should be a stickied guide for newbs at least showing a brief description of what makes each guild terrible, and who the dirty whistles are... its like a high school cafeteria and none of the new kids to the school know where to sit because the goths and jocks and band geeks are all dressed the same and sitting at one big round table yelling across at each other. I just want to know where to sit sometimes instead of thinking this school is just comprised of one single giant group of douchebags, of various brands.

:confused:

tl:dr = Need soap opera TV guide to follow the drama around here :D


Lot of truth in that post about perception and new players, I come off as a bit of a dick on forums and /ooc because of trolling and the meta game but if you know me and hangout in game I'm pretty nice with free pixels, exp, smoke breaks ect, and I tell a lot of jokes on the side to ease the grind. But, when I'm feeling it I log on my pks and kill people at random because red. My cross to bear.

[Sirken]

Can't you just block certain subforums when you ban them? leaving ability to report/petition but silencing them effectively? Since if that is the intent, they obviously abuse the hell out of it and just continue forumquesting right through their suspension/ban?

nope. only rogean can set permissions.

[Bodybagger]

So....then forum bans/suspensions literally do nothing but cause people to roll a new name and continue and nothing changes... why bother anyways? At least without them people could block/ignore one name per person instead of seeing the same person be bad under a new name each week?

Not trying to be a thorn, just genuine curiosity after spectating for a long time. I know you guys have a hard job, and one you can't possibly be getting rewarded for near as much as you catch hell with, in any way, shape, or form.

[Genedin]

to address why its so hard to get rid of bad apples, it short, its 2015. we have banned tons of player accounts and IP addresses as well as many proxys & VPNs from the site and the server, but its really really easy to get new IPs and roll a new account. if you are simply referring to forum infractions, we allow them back on a new forum account because players need forum accounts to access the petition & bug forums. as far as in game crimes against norrath, most of them (2boxing included) start as suspensions, and not bans. when we ban a player its permanent, and if they want to change their ways and put in the effort to reroll a new account, we let them. we believe in second chances, and the ability for people to change. sometimes good people just make a bad decision, and we dont feel they should receive a life sentence for that. that said, there are absolutely certain truly heinous acts that will result in us no longer allowing a person to play here.

<3
Sirks


although I don't agree with many things, this is a great post and outlook on the server in my opinion

[Nirgon]

Replace ban with limit to posting in petition/exploit and bugs

No new accounts

[Littlegyno 13.0]

to address why its so hard to get rid of bad apples, it short, its 2015. we have banned tons of player accounts and IP addresses as well as many proxys & VPNs from the site and the server, but its really really easy to get new IPs and roll a new account. if you are simply referring to forum infractions, we allow them back on a new forum account because players need forum accounts to access the petition & bug forums. as far as in game crimes against norrath, most of them (2boxing included) start as suspensions, and not bans. when we ban a player its permanent, and if they want to change their ways and put in the effort to reroll a new account, we let them. we believe in second chances, and the ability for people to change. sometimes good people just make a bad decision, and we dont feel they should receive a life sentence for that. that said, there are absolutely certain truly heinous acts that will result in us no longer allowing a person to play here.

<3
Sirks

What constitutes permanent exile from the realm? Ender rerolled 3-4 times on new characters and was banned each time he was revealed to be Ender. Is he permanently exiled from Emperor Rogean's land?

Also, what about people like Nizzar, Tune, Cast?

[harnold]

Yes, the only logical explanation is that the GMs enjoy wasting their time moderating players. It couldn't possibly be because, even after years of running this server, they haven't been able to come up with a system that "doesn't require petitionquest" (and doesn't just result in a single guild dominating the server TMO-style).

It must just be that they are masochists.

off the top of my head i can come up with 3 raid systems that requires NO petitionquest

1-rotation - classic, was done on live on some servers, for those complaining about "then we'll have to wait even longer to gear up our 7th alts" should pipe down and keep quiet. This is easily the most fair of all the systems. Don't get it twisted- waking up at 5AM and loading into the server faster then other guilds is not "competing" by any means.

2-pvp - "BUT ITS NOT A PVP SERVER!" is the usual argument. Fair enough, but its another system that requires no petitionquest. This would be the most FUN of all the raid systems but could bring other side effects because basically the biggest zerg/most vp geared guilds would probably win. Either way, still fun and still no petitionquest, but the side effect of TMO rolling through everyone would ruin it so I do not endorse this unless it was implemented since day 1.

3-instance - You'll never believe this, but this was actually the method that sony and most other mmos use to fix the problem. Being that sony used this method it is automatically disqualified for p99 in the eyes of the gms. No trains and no petitionquest, but would require extra thought and work to figure out how to make it work with p99 (amount of spawns, how guilds can spawn them, etc.) However once the rules are thought of and implemented it is smooth sailing from there with no petitionquest.



Hell lets keep brainstorming and come up with another:

hardcoded raid rules - X guild engages, Y guild gets banished or something like that. The devs can hardcode literally any ideas they have that will prevent Y guild from engaging so there can be no sniping, etc. Will require thought to set up the initial rules but once thats done there is no more petitionquest.



There isnt any reason that this nonsensical, petitionquest-requiring, wake up at 5AM raid rules are here if the GMs didnt like the side effects. The current system is more flawed then any other mmo that has been in existance. It is not able to sustain itself without constant gm interference.

[Kergan]

Tourney fishing sounds pretty fun, havent done any derbys since I was a kid. Just been doin it outta tradition really, me and the pals every spring goin HARD for King Salmon. Fun fights and if the bite isn't on ya can always just jig for halibut or shoot some seal or otters. Love life in Alaska except for the internet =/

One of my Dad's good friends was a pro bass fisherman for many years. I had a chance to prefish a tournament with him and immediately knew I would never want to do it for a living. That shit is WORK man, takes all the fun out of it. I prefer to toss out a float and a sucker minnow and crack a beer with some music cranked up.

A wise man once said that many people fish their entire lives without realizing it was never fish they were after.

[Kergan]

to address why its so hard to get rid of bad apples, it short, its 2015. we have banned tons of player accounts and IP addresses as well as many proxys & VPNs from the site and the server, but its really really easy to get new IPs and roll a new account. if you are simply referring to forum infractions, we allow them back on a new forum account because players need forum accounts to access the petition & bug forums. as far as in game crimes against norrath, most of them (2boxing included) start as suspensions, and not bans. when we ban a player its permanent, and if they want to change their ways and put in the effort to reroll a new account, we let them. we believe in second chances, and the ability for people to change. sometimes good people just make a bad decision, and we dont feel they should receive a life sentence for that. that said, there are absolutely certain truly heinous acts that will result in us no longer allowing a person to play here.

<3
Sirks

It's really not possible for a small volunteer staff to permanently keep people out. It is up to the community to blacklist scum so they leave on their own. Unfortunately that seems to rarely if ever happen here.

Maybe if you started extending punishment for some of the more serious infractions to the guild leadership that shelter known douchebags the community would take care of itself.

Just my 2 cents.

[Milton]

A wise man once said that many people fish their entire lives without realizing it was never fish they were after.

Shit is deep son

[fred schnarf]

to address why its so hard to get rid of bad apples, it short, its 2015. we have banned tons of player accounts and IP addresses as well as many proxys & VPNs from the site and the server, but its really really easy to get new IPs and roll a new account. if you are simply referring to forum infractions, we allow them back on a new forum account because players need forum accounts to access the petition & bug forums. as far as in game crimes against norrath, most of them (2boxing included) start as suspensions, and not bans. when we ban a player its permanent, and if they want to change their ways and put in the effort to reroll a new account, we let them. we believe in second chances, and the ability for people to change. sometimes good people just make a bad decision, and we dont feel they should receive a life sentence for that. that said, there are absolutely certain truly heinous acts that will result in us no longer allowing a person to play here.

<3
Sirks

lite has been boxing from the start, so you sir are a fucking joke

stop pretending you do anything here

[dontbanpls]

lite has been boxing from the start, so you sir are a fucking joke

stop pretending you do anything here

remeber when Smedy took two weeks for boxing? most hilarious punishment ever given out

[Sirken]

lite has been boxing from the start, so you sir are a fucking joke.stop pretending you do anything here
what i know and what i can prove are very different things. comments like yours are exactly why its so hard to find people to staff red. a lot of you nerds are under the impression that as staff we can just whatever we want on a whim. sadly thats just not the case. and if youd ban players without evidence, then red is really lucky not to have staff members like you on the team

remeber when Smedy took two weeks for boxing? most hilarious punishment ever given out
i very much doubt this. two boxers are given 30 days. i know some guides will do 15 if the person is honest about it. but i personally have been campaigning to the staff to make boxing into a first violation = permaban offense. furthermore, not all two boxing is created equally, meaning, some people are very lazy when it comes to boxing, and they are easier to catch. if you dont show up on our detector, then a guide would have to see a petition and have the time to run a manual 2 box test, as opposed to just going off the detector.


tldr - play better

[dontbanpls]

what i know and what i can prove are very different things. comments like yours are exactly why its so hard to find people to staff red. a lot of you nerds are under the impression that as staff we can just whatever we want on a whim. sadly thats just not the case. and if youd ban players without evidence, then red is really lucky not to have staff members like you on the team


i very much doubt this. two boxers are given 30 days. i know some guides will do 15 if the person is honest about it. but i personally have been campaigning to the staff to make boxing into a first violation = permaban offense. furthermore, not all two boxing is created equally, meaning, some people are very lazy when it comes to boxing, and they are easier to catch. if you dont show up on our detector, then a guide would have to see a petition and have the time to run a manual 2 box test, as opposed to just going off the detector.


tldr - play better


Does downloading a virtual machine and playing through a VPN equate to playing better?

[nonphixion]

the key to understanding why, is to remember this is a free project. they could just do nothing.

they do something but there is no permanent fix to the problem... so the real solution is not wasting resources over a handful of retards -- which is the right choice and the choice taken here at p99

but u know this

also rest assured were it easier to make trolls lives harder, it will be done.

your a retard and a troll

[baalzy]

but i personally have been campaigning to the staff to make boxing into a first violation = permaban offense.



I thought this WAS the case.

[fred schnarf]

what i know and what i can prove are very different things. comments like yours are exactly why its so hard to find people to staff red. a lot of you nerds are under the impression that as staff we can just whatever we want on a whim. sadly thats just not the case. and if youd ban players without evidence, then red is really lucky not to have staff members like you on the team


i very much doubt this. two boxers are given 30 days. i know some guides will do 15 if the person is honest about it. but i personally have been campaigning to the staff to make boxing into a first violation = permaban offense. furthermore, not all two boxing is created equally, meaning, some people are very lazy when it comes to boxing, and they are easier to catch. if you dont show up on our detector, then a guide would have to see a petition and have the time to run a manual 2 box test, as opposed to just going off the detector.


tldr - play better

staff dont do things on a whim? why is miraclegrow banned? i didnt do shit

why is dirtie banned? i didnt do shit

why is burtox banned? i didnt do shit, zade said i tried to sell him and had 0 proof , i purchased him 100% legitly and his main excuse was that he was sold a dozen times, and again it was totally legal.

[Bodybagger]

Any major infraction should be permaban... I.E. boxing, RMT, account sharing, other such major violations that impact everyone and ruin the box. Why would you let them come back to do more of the same?

If you believe people change so much how are you successfully campaigning a kunark era Everquest server?!?! We don't change... we are who we are and have always been! A thief is a thief, a liar is a liar, and a cheat is a cheat. The only thing that changes is how many people they drag down with them every time, and as they persist, and as people eventually decide if you can't beat 'em, join 'em, or fight fire with fire.

Rules keep honest people honest. Punishments keep dishonest people separate from the honest people. There is no gray area for boxing. You can't unintentionally break that rule. It takes a lot of effort to break that rule. Why would the punishment not be the utmost severity, exile form the box? I do not understand. It seems like everyone gets time outs at best... that stuff doesn't work past 4yrs old or so, and even then it doesn't work if you put them in timeout but you are a softy and still let them have their ice cream...

[Bodybagger]

staff dont do things on a whim? why is miraclegrow banned? i didnt do shit

why is dirtie banned? i didnt do shit

why is burtox banned? i didnt do shit, zade said i tried to sell him and had 0 proof , i purchased him 100% legitly and his main excuse was that he was sold a dozen times, and again it was totally legal.

I don't know this guy, but case in point, 3 banned accounts it sounds like and continues to be around box and sounds like persistent problem? Why? Why would the staff want people like that around, why would the players? Why is that even an issue? You would think repeat offenders would be the absolutely utmost nonfactors in consideration for being allowed back on the box...

It all just seems very... hollow. They cry but they are still here, and continue getting in trouble, then cry some more. They get scolded but are still here and get scolded some more but stay here... :confused:

[Sirken]

Does downloading a virtual machine and playing through a VPN equate to playing better?
i was referring to your attempts at trolling, but yes, it would also apply within the realm of 2boxing. those that make it harder to be caught, will be harder to catch. /mindblown

I thought this WAS the case.
i dont know why you did. Amelinda made it a suspension first offense over 3 years ago, and as been the policy since that time.

staff dont do things on a whim? why is miraclegrow banned? i didnt do shit. why is dirtie banned? i didnt do shit. why is burtox banned? i didnt do shit, zade said i tried to sell him and had 0 proof , i purchased him 100% legitly and his main excuse was that he was sold a dozen times, and again it was totally legal.
if you are srs, petition forum it. include if these are game or forum accounts, and if game, which server.

I don't know this guy, but case in point, 3 banned accounts it sounds like and continues to be around box and sounds like persistent problem? Why? Why would the staff want people like that around, why would the players? Why is that even an issue? You would think repeat offenders would be the absolutely utmost nonfactors in consideration for being allowed back on the box...
It all just seems very... hollow. They cry but they are still here, and continue getting in trouble, then cry some more. They get scolded but are still here and get scolded some more but stay here... :confused:
i still dont think you understand how things work in real life. we have IP banned hundreds and hundreds of IP addresses. we have banned a ton of known proxy and VPN IP addresses. we continue to IP ban when warranted, even though it is not a very useful tactic anymore. you need remember EQEmu accounts are free, and the p99 staff is not the EQEmu staff. some of these people have dozens of accounts, and are freely able to continue creating as many as they want until the end of time. if they get banned and they decide to reroll a new account and follow the rules, then you shouldnt care. if they get banned and they decide to reroll a new account and continue to break the rules, then they will be banned again, and again you shouldnt care. if you know people are breaking rules, SS it or fraps it and send it to the petition forum. instead of immediately busting out the tinfoil, help us help you.

[Littlegyno 13.0]

i was referring to your attempts at trolling, but yes, it would also apply within the realm of 2boxing. those that make it harder to be caught, will be harder to catch. /mindblown


i dont know why you did. Amelinda made it a suspension first offense over 3 years ago, and as been the policy since that time.


if you are srs, petition forum it. include if these are game or forum accounts, and if game, which server.


i still dont think you understand how things work in real life. we have IP banned hundreds and hundreds of IP addresses. we have banned a ton of known proxy and VPN IP addresses. we continue to IP ban when warranted, even though it is not a very useful tactic anymore. you need remember EQEmu accounts are free, and the p99 staff is not the EQEmu staff. some of these people have dozens of accounts, and are freely able to continue creating as many as they want until the end of time. if they get banned and they decide to reroll a new account and follow the rules, then you shouldnt care. if they get banned and they decide to reroll a new account and continue to break the rules, then they will be banned again, and again you shouldnt care. if you know people are breaking rules, SS it or fraps it and send it to the petition forum. instead of immediately busting out the tinfoil, help us help you.

in the past this hasn't always been the case. ender for example rerolled 3-4 times and was banned each time the staff found out it was ender.

all for stripping mellowyellow and deleting the character (which by the way every item and the character was restored).

[Bodybagger]

So If they GET CAUGHT breaking rules and come back and DON'T get caught, I shouldn't care and should assume they are goog guys... and if they do get caught and come back and do get caught, I again shouldn't care... I should just for some reason care about playing by the rules and not care if other people do...?

I'm not sure you know how things work in real life, if that's the genuine stance... People don't go to work all day and bust hump instead of robbing people because they love it, they do it because consequences outweigh any benefits. We all know the benefits of robbing a bank, and the consequences, so very few decide the risk is worth the reward, and usually they are just arrogant enough to think they won't get caught. Take away the risk and more people rob banks.

Regardless, got the answer I was looking for I think.. basically it's too difficult/impossible to stop the bad players because they know they are bad and try hard to cover up how bad they are being and you have limited means to do anything about it so limited effort goes into stopping it. We should all just make the best of it, and try to avoid the temptations of being bad guys with them for the pure moral pride of being better human beings, and not making your box into a litter box full of cat turds.

On a side note, I made a comment about level based PVP system in another thread, did you by any chance notice it? There are a LOT of threads so probably not, but I would be interested in exploring the feasibility of it and getting yalls thoughts on the matter as well, if nothing else but for sake of discussing it and brainstorming and seeing more how you guys process and think on the matters.

[Kergan]

I fully support the idea of all banned characters being thrown into the arena to battle for their freedom.

This could be a monthly event.

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[Littlegyno 13.0]

relax there young nerd. everybody gets caught eventually. and so im gonna ignore the rest of that nerdranty paragraph.

please dont be purposely dense. my "do you understand RL comment" was directed at our RL means of preventing people from logging into the server. you trying to twist it into people breaking rules on ElfQuest and then comparing that to breaking RL laws is laughable at best.

i know youre being sarcastic, but yea youre 100% right. they can make infinite accounts because they are free to make. they can reset IPs. we are a volunteer staff with limited time due to RL obligations like jobs, families, friends, and significant others. so i mean, yes youre right, people shouldnt act like pieces of shit, and should ostracize the people that do act shitty. and if that happened, it would go a long way towards improving the server imo.

i havent seen it, but i will check it out when i have a few minutes that i dont have to spend responding to this ridiculous thread ;)

it's a tough situation.

you can't 100% police everything on the server like verant did because the staff is like 3-4 volunteers not 1-2 paid staff with 20-30 guides.

on the other hand, when large portions of the box say 'hey this dude is a shady fuck and is a 2boxer' for the previous 2 years, it'd say its a good idea to investigate a little further.

hopefully in the next month or two before velious red can get some red specific guides, like 3-4 guides that can be the eyes and ears of sirkdog the magnificent.

[qwerty]

Just because I rob banks in RL does not mean I'm scum in p99!!!! Stop judging me!!!!

[Bazia]

really gyno ur the one calling for a whistle cleaning

[Smedy]

really gyno ur the one calling for a whistle cleaning

sickens me really, one of these days gyno and his 4 aons will be punished but i will always forgive, for i am jesus

[Akalakamelee]

Item loot? One can dream....

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

Gyno, if you were a GM, what would be your first order of business?

[Gustoo]

It would be really helpful if permanent character bans were made public and the reasons for the bans given. I don't follow the forums closely enough to know who is a real bad guy or not.

2 boxing offenses should definitely be public so we know who to keep an eye on.

[heartbrand]

the fact lite hasn't been caught a single time boxing, something literally 100+ people have witnessed him do and has STREAMED himself doing over the last 2 yrs is beyond comprehension. how r we supposed 2 take boxing serious when this guy has made a joke of the rule for 2 yrs?

[krazyGlue]

the fact lite hasn't been caught a single time boxing, something literally 100+ people have witnessed him do and has STREAMED himself doing over the last 2 yrs is beyond comprehension. how r we supposed 2 take boxing serious when this guy has made a joke of the rule for 2 yrs?

got prof?

[Akalakamelee]

the fact lite hasn't been caught a single time boxing, something literally 100+ people have witnessed him do and has STREAMED himself doing over the last 2 yrs is beyond comprehension. how r we supposed 2 take boxing serious when this guy has made a joke of the rule for 2 yrs?

I'm pretty convinced this guy has a boy crush on lite... seems to be all he ever thinks about

[heartbrand]

got prof?

Yes, have petitioned it many times, including when he was guilded with me :)

[Akalakamelee]

Heartbrand, do you have a boy crush on lite? Elf forums must know.

[heartbrand]

Ur sig pic is awful

[Akalakamelee]

Used ms paint, not good with photo shop plus I'm lazy.

Your obsession with lite is kinda creepy though

[Littlegyno 13.0]

Gyno, if you were a GM, what would be your first order of business?

I would get with the leaders of the guilds and determine when they'd like a guide or GM presence available for possibly contested spawns. might not always be possible but would be a great idea.

Then I would ask emperor rogean/lady angel nilberg if they could make all suspensions/bans public and reveal a bad boy list.

3rd, I would have weekly sit downs with the two leaders and officers of the guilds on the box to come to terms about beef and possible beefs.

[Kergan]

Used ms paint, not good with photo shop plus I'm lazy.

Your obsession with lite is kinda creepy though

Weird pedo calling someone creepy.

This must be the R99 forums.

[krazyGlue]

Yes, have petitioned it many times, including when he was guilded with me :)

post it lets see what you got

[Kergan]

Time 2 update sig, rallyd quote no longer topical.

[Akalakamelee]

Weird pedo calling someone creepy.

This must be the R99 forums.

Wow dude, coming right in to defend with your personal attacks again. Hate to say it kergan, looks like heartbrand has his heart set on lite, I'm sure there is another man who will accept you

[Kergan]

lol weirdo

[Akalakamelee]

If you guys think your trolling or defending your honor in some way, your wrong. Everyone that isn't drinking team holo koolaid is laughing at you. Just a heads up, tryin to be a pal.

[Kergan]

Let me guess you play a female woodelf?

[HippoNipple]

Does Chewie know you are in his guild? Who is running that show right now?

[Akalakamelee]

I've been in the guild for quite awhile and was originally in FoH on RZ (also officer) on live. Not sure why you care, you don't even play.

Only female chars I play are my sell bot, and miku. All the rest are male chars.

[Kergan]

Is it a female woodelf?

[Akalakamelee]

Half elf, they make better bards. Would have done human so the reference made a bit more sense, but I've only met one person on here that knew what it was.

[dontbanpls]

I think that when you are talking about someone being a pedophile that the community deserves to know and that it really makes you look like shit to try to insult someone for making sure people know that there is a kid fucker in the village

[Kergan]

haha :)

[Akalakamelee]

I know you have nothing valid to say, but stoopin to that level is just in bad taste.

[Kergan]

Yeah dude sorry you are not qualified to comment on bad taste with not one but two underage anime girls in your sig/avatar pics.

[Akalakamelee]

Yeah dude sorry you are not qualified to comment on bad taste with not one but two underage anime girls in your sig/avatar pics.

Are all holo nut huggers as ignorant as you? You ran out of valid things to say before your first post. Do us a favor, cut your fingers off and get yourself debarked. Tnx pal

[Kergan]

You are a pedo

[Kergan]

If I gotta eat a forum ban to keep the R99 streets safe for children then my death will be worth it.

[Littlegyno 13.0]

1) becareful, i learned the other day that this will cause some players to go from 0 to full-retard in amazing time

2) you'd be denied.

3) should include more than just 2 guilds imo.

yaw meant all the officers/leaders.

[Biaxil]

Oh I read the fishing part, p nice, lets see your catch?

http://i.imgur.com/I3SfiwW.jpg

I love fishing too, I may have miss judged you.

Caught off BB docks; obviously from kaladim.

[Akalakamelee]

You are a pedo

Team holo at its finest, I've had enough of you pal.

[Akalakamelee]

Oh I know he is just mad cause bad. Doesn't give him or anyone else to acc use me of something so vile. KerGan is clearly too immersed.

[HippoNipple]

Don't let Kergan bother you, worst player on this box, even when he actually played he didn't do anything but raid, never killed anyone, never made a difference in group pvp.

Imagine a Shaman alt buff bot dual boxed, that's pretty much Kergan.

But don't take my word for it, see for yourself...

http://r99pvp.com/showplayer.php?p=Aborted

He doesn't even exist on Nihilum's pvp boards because they don't even count him as playing here. And he was a member of Nihilum.

BK hasn't had a kill in 2 weeks and he hasn't killed anyone of value that wasn't at a bind spot since middle of December.

He raided in a 10 guild alliance last night though. :D

[MavstabYoudead]

BK hasn't had a kill in 2 weeks and he hasn't killed anyone of value that wasn't at a bind spot since middle of December.

He raided in a 10 guild alliance last night though. :D

http://i60.tinypic.com/dc7osi.png

[HippoNipple]

Looks like Fresh/Holocaut were victorious in running out the scum from Feerrott. Not one Azrael or one of their 10 alliances left.

Holocaust bringing the only PvP to Red.

[Akalakamelee]

http://i60.tinypic.com/dc7osi.png

After it was said in ooc only 11 ppl in that zone. Lol

[MEGANS LAW]

If I gotta eat a forum ban to keep the R99 streets safe for children then my death will be worth it.

http://i.imgur.com/m15fpiU.png

[HippoNipple]

After it was said in ooc only 11 ppl in that zone. Lol

Honestly why wouldn't you go try to kill some people if you knew where they were going to be? If you know where some people are to kill, you show up to PvP.

Contesting pixels obviously wasn't the point. Just having some fun PvPing people on the way to a raid.

What is the problem?

[Bodybagger]

Honestly why wouldn't you go try to kill some people if you knew where they were going to be? If you know where some people are to kill, you show up to PvP.

Contesting pixels obviously wasn't the point. Just having some fun PvPing people on the way to a raid.

What is the problem?

55=/=11 55=zerg 55 claiming 11=lying sacks of crap trying to pretend they aren't terrible. By that math if I 6v1 you, I 1v1'd you.

Everything you just said is irrelevant and makes you look like a retard for responding to his statement with what you said. Please learn to math, learn to tell the truth, and learn to respond in an intelligible manner instead of making random nonsensical statements.

[Akalakamelee]

Honestly why wouldn't you go try to kill some people if you knew where they were going to be? If you know where some people are to kill, you show up to PvP.

Contesting pixels obviously wasn't the point. Just having some fun PvPing people on the way to a raid.

What is the problem?

1 v 55, what do you think my odds are? I will fight battles that may not be favorable, but I'm not stupid.

[HippoNipple]

1 v 55, what do you think my odds are? I will fight battles that may not be favorable, but I'm not stupid.

I wasn't saying you should try to 1 v 55. I said why wouldn't a guild show up to try to kill people they knew were going to a raid.

It looks like people showed up to PvP. There was no PvP. Then they left to go Everquest in another zone.

What is the problem?

[Akalakamelee]

I wasn't saying you should try to 1 v 55. I said why wouldn't a guild show up to try to kill people they knew were going to a raid.

It looks like people showed up to PvP. There was no PvP. Then they left to go Everquest in another zone.

What is the problem?

You don't even play? Not sure why you even care.

[HippoNipple]

You don't even play? Not sure why you even care.

What makes you say that?

[Akalakamelee]

Seems you spend your time on the forums instead

[HippoNipple]

Seems you spend your time on the forums instead

Who Posted?
Total Posts: 96
User Name Posts
Akalakamelee 16

Okay.

[Kergan]

Haha.

This dude is rustled hard.

Also I'm not on the Nihilum boards because I had Elderan delete all my deaths.

[Akalakamelee]

Who Posted?
Total Posts: 96
User Name Posts
Akalakamelee 16

Okay.

Work slow today

[aggrikta]

to address why its so hard to get rid of bad apples, it short, its 2015. we have banned tons of player accounts and IP addresses as well as many proxys & VPNs from the site and the server, but its really really easy to get new IPs and roll a new account. if you are simply referring to forum infractions, we allow them back on a new forum account because players need forum accounts to access the petition & bug forums. as far as in game crimes against norrath, most of them (2boxing included) start as suspensions, and not bans. when we ban a player its permanent, and if they want to change their ways and put in the effort to reroll a new account, we let them. we believe in second chances, and the ability for people to change. sometimes good people just make a bad decision, and we dont feel they should receive a life sentence for that. that said, there are absolutely certain truly heinous acts that will result in us no longer allowing a person to play here.

<3
Sirks


How long does a suspension last?

[derpcake]

relax there young nerd. everybody gets caught eventually. and so im gonna ignore the rest of that nerdranty paragraph.

I've reported many boxers, many times there was no staff on to act.

Its kind of sad to learn they face 15-30 days, when the benefits from boxing are obviously huge.

They get caught eventually, I am sure, but the benefit generated far surpasses the risk and punishment.

Not encouraging news.

[derpcake]

Serious question I have yet to get a legit answer to?

Why were so many names changed and a name made to slander Nizzar and copyright protected by a corporation deemed ok?

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h266/syft13/Colgate%20icon_zpsmayvppqg.jpg (http://s66.photobucket.com/user/syft13/media/Colgate%20icon_zpsmayvppqg.jpg.html)

There's a lot of people who believe in Project 1999 and wish it to succeed(I'm one of them) but it's hard to dismiss allegations of favoritism when we see things like this.

This may be hard for you to understand since you are heavily emotionally involved, but the name "Colgate" doesn't really break rules like "Squirty Vagina" does.

Did Burgerking get namechanged yet? Thats copyrighted right? Making fun of the less slim people in society are we? :(

[Nirgon]

Maybe you shouldn't be such a sperg BK and you couldn't get targeted for name change first

Some people think staff is entirely objective, they pretty much are... and you are objectively a shitlord spergerking, it appears you get treated as such might wanna change dat up see how it play out u no

[Akalakamelee]

P sure BKS name got changed. Waiting on colgate now, do I have to petition this daily to get results? Plz don't make me do that I'm lazy

[Nirgon]

Petitioned my own 1 best pal and guildmate just for the sake of consistency and fairness:

http://s15.postimg.org/cn2tt8fvv/petitioned_my_own_guildie_omg.png

[HippoNipple]

Unfortunately for Syft the name of Colgate's character will not directly effect how bad Syft is at this game even if the name change does come through.

[Nirgon]

Look how y'all act, take a wild freakin' guess

Lucky for you I'm a white knight and will petition to the bitter end for justice

Even if its for you

[Nirgon]

http://s10.postimg.org/5s2mciozt/ogod.png

BK I'm not petitioning anymore

They scare me

This is actually what is going on man take it how you like -- don't think Eunomia changed your name and this was a personal vendetta by another staff you pissed off pal (don't piss off da staff)

my 2cp

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

RIP squirty vagina

[Kergan]

No pretty sure he is just saying the staff think you're as big a douchebag as the players think you are. :)

[Kergan]

fyi Syft if it makes you feel better I was name changed on Aborted.

[Kergan]

Didn't fit, need a double XL.

[DrunkGrunt11b]

TLDR we let holo and tmo to keep playing and trolling.