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How do you feel about the future of red after watching the first set of raid suspensions on Red 99 ?
In the past there was minimal consequences for training your enemies when you lost in PVP. 1 or 2 people get suspended for a week ? which was very inconsequential given that everyone here has multiple characters.
Holocaust was suspended from PoFear for blatant training.
Azrael was suspended for training the guild master on Faydadar. Despite the fact that it was done many times on red 99 and GM's didn't take any action, we're happy the be the martyrs in order to have this finally be officially declared illegal.
From now on, during ground shakes lowbie guilds no longer have to worry about Faydadar being poofed on them by other guilds, which I think is great for server health.
Guido
01-21-2015, 02:19 PM
server health
I can pras dat
also would like the GMs to consider Bind Rushing and possibly making it illegal. When Holocaust lost the 20v60 battle in fear, they stormed in naked creating major chaos multiple times. This should be looked at.
server health
I can pras dat
also would like the GMs to consider Bind Rushing and possibly making it illegal. When Holocaust lost the 20v60 battle in fear, they stormed in naked creating major chaos multiple times. This should be looked at.
As much as I enjoyed all the YT from the drones rushing over and over again, I gotta agree. Bluest thing I've seen on red. Throwing naked bodies nonstop to compensate for no tactic is not how this game was intended to be played.
Nirgon
01-21-2015, 02:24 PM
Rooting someone with mobs on them then aggroing the mobs on yourself is blatantly training, got it
Meanwhile in TD.... lol
Is you rooting (or ccing otherwise) Stubz in the video? Or does it just cut on when he dies to the mobs?
MavstabYoudead
01-21-2015, 02:26 PM
Rooting someone with mobs on them then aggroing the mobs on yourself is blatantly training, got it
Meanwhile in TD.... lol
Is you rooting (or ccing otherwise) Stubz in the video? Or does it just cut on when he dies to the mobs?
nirgon go reenact the fear train and post the fraps...
we're all waiting to see it....
let me guess next you are going to say that we should have all been invis and that no mobs in fear see invis right?
Nirgon
01-21-2015, 02:31 PM
We contacted Sirken the second we knew you guys were coming, nuff said.
I believe the cue for telling him to come was "Zuljin has a ton of mobs on him".
We'll have fraps/OBS running on raids in the future, try it again and enjoy your bans for tailoring evidence in the future. They don't play around when it comes to that shit.
Ragnaros
01-21-2015, 02:34 PM
We contacted Sirken the second we knew you guys were coming, nuff said.
I believe the cue for telling him to come was "Zuljin has a ton of mobs on him".
We'll have fraps/OBS running on raids in the future, try it again and enjoy your bans for tailoring evidence in the future. They don't play around when it comes to that shit.
Enjoy your raid suspension stupid nerd....NEXT
try it again and enjoy your bans for tailoring evidence in the future. They don't play around when it comes to that shit.
you suggesting the staff is wrong on Holo having trained, despite numerous videos clearly showing it?
Schnarf
01-21-2015, 02:47 PM
lite cares about server guys
you heard it here first.
Nirgon
01-21-2015, 02:47 PM
Your TS is filled with figuring out how to bait situations like these then tailor evidence
Really SUSPICIOUS that we'd contact Sirken to come watch the pvp when we had these intentions of training you suggest
Enjoy your free CT, we will be recording in the future
If you'd like to PVP in Feerott before hand, please let us know
MavstabYoudead
01-21-2015, 02:48 PM
how about we meet you in oasis for fay pvp?
dontbanpls
01-21-2015, 03:03 PM
Not sure how helpful it really is to be handing out two separate and unequal punishments for the same alleged offense
Tassador
01-21-2015, 03:04 PM
lite cares about server guys
you heard it here first.
I thought he was quiting when I read the subjecting this here thread.
Your TS is filled with figuring out how to bait situations like these then tailor evidence
Really SUSPICIOUS that we'd contact Sirken to come watch the pvp when we had these intentions of training you suggest
Enjoy your free CT, we will be recording in the future
If you'd like to PVP in Feerott before hand, please let us know
You got caught, the server is for better for it.
let it go
HippoNipple
01-21-2015, 04:03 PM
Normally a guild breaks a raiding rule like this and the guild is suspended from raiding. In this case it encourages guilds to go ahead and show up to raids they can't do or don't care about doing and train them just to cause grief.
Why doesn't a guild like FoH just go train fear every week and get banned from raiding fear?
If this ruling was really set in stone there is no reason for Azrael to not train in TD every week just to fuck with guilds going for targets they don't care about.
I'm okay with GMs getting involved but I marked option B because I think the way this instance was handled just opens the door for loop holes, petitions, meaningless raid suspensions, waste of time, etc.
It also appears this is leading to everyone capturing video and most likely submitting much more to GMs then they will want to deal with.
GMS*
Think long and hard on what you want the consequences to be. Post them on the front page. Be ready to enforce them once they are posted. Once this is done show up to 2-3 important raids a week and make sure rules are enforced only on raids you witness.
If time goes by and GMs loose their presence for a long period of time make a new post and repeat the process.
Nirgon
01-21-2015, 04:04 PM
Some times a close call doesn't go your way or only one side has a fraps to submit
I wouldn't say constantly training raids is going to turn out well for anyone :P
I'm glad we're putting pressure on leaders/officers to clean up their roster and punishing at the raid level now (see Lite as Novus admitting he ninja looted on a lvl 6, ya I got prof)
Ragnaros
01-21-2015, 04:18 PM
nirgon pissed his guild raid suspended, later fuckin nerd
Milton
01-21-2015, 04:26 PM
Thanks for looking out for the server Azreal, have seen nothing but good things so far. pras
are you actually trying to say that suiciding faydedar with no one around to the iksar master is the same thing as training the iksar master on a raid of people who are already fighting faydedar?
is this real life?
yes, since both achieve it being poofed and there are no camps on red, it's noone's fay. but like I said. Azrael are martyrs and will happily take the punishment in order for this tactic to be ruled illegal. I wish Holo would be as graceful about assuming responsibility for their train and instructing their members to bind and train.
Nirgon
01-21-2015, 04:43 PM
No one told them to train. No one intentionally trained mobs. What about to that ton of mobs on Zuljin eh? We had no mobs in camp when that call was made and someone immediately Skype msged Sirken when they heard it.
You, on purpose, trained shit in TD.
Sektor
01-21-2015, 04:49 PM
I think the 3 years on being here I've trained one time. You can say it a million times that I trained, doesn't make it true.
Littlegyno 13.0
01-21-2015, 04:50 PM
yes, since both achieve it being poofed and there are no camps on red, it's noone's fay. but like I said. Azrael are martyrs and will happily take the punishment in order for this tactic to be ruled illegal. I wish Holo would be as graceful about assuming responsibility for their train and instructing their members to bind and train.
you weren't suspended for training an npc on another npc. you were suspended for training a 60+ npc on a raid of brave adventurers.
if i get on a druid and train iksar grandmaster on faydedar, no pc's nearby, that's just me enjoying everquest and the journey u kno?
HippoNipple
01-21-2015, 04:51 PM
yes, since both achieve it being poofed and there are no camps on red, it's noone's fay. but like I said. Azrael are martyrs and will happily take the punishment in order for this tactic to be ruled illegal. I wish Holo would be as graceful about assuming responsibility for their train and instructing their members to bind and train.
This guy has no concept of time being valuable btw. He only thinks in pixels.
Swyft
01-21-2015, 05:24 PM
Anymore Holo non factor warmbodies they can squeeze into this thread? I don't think it's possible.
Ragnaros
01-21-2015, 05:51 PM
No one told them to train. No one intentionally trained mobs. What about to that ton of mobs on Zuljin eh? We had no mobs in camp when that call was made and someone immediately Skype msged Sirken when they heard it.
You, on purpose, trained shit in TD.
OLD MAN NIRGON THE RAID SUSPENSION SAYS DIFFERENT
NEXT
Tassador
01-21-2015, 07:19 PM
Being a factor in an emulated elf sim, yeahhhh. Good troll! Holo and azrael are both disgusting and make me puke the Bruce is coming soon and to end this tyranny!
"i could have sworn training a level 60+ monk guildmaster that's kill on sight to a majority of players on a raid wasn't against the rules guys"
KoS, but agrooed on me. Unless someone touches it, they won't go on its agroo list. Thus why Gongshow had to go and combat it and try to get it to summon me :)
Fading memories ain't till luclin, pall !
didn't think doing content with 4 times intended numbers would have you forget the basics so quickly.
PS, I noticed you haven't voted. u ruthled? didn't u just get a free fay? WTB pod of water
Ragnaros
01-21-2015, 09:13 PM
colgate was like 3 years old when eq released kid knows nothing
Nirgon
01-21-2015, 10:37 PM
Do you know how big TD is? You "accidentally wandered into it"?
krazyGlue
01-21-2015, 11:02 PM
are you actually trying to say that suiciding faydedar with no one around to the iksar master is the same thing as training the iksar master on a raid of people who are already fighting faydedar?
is this real life?
i didnt know a bard can fd
Ragnaros
01-21-2015, 11:09 PM
colgate was like 3 years old when eq released kid knows nothing
Ragnaros
01-21-2015, 11:12 PM
see quote
colgate was like 3 years old when eq released kid knows nothing
Nirgon
01-21-2015, 11:21 PM
Someone's having a temper tantrum cuz his guild wiped to hate trash and called force lns ^
Ragnaros
01-21-2015, 11:29 PM
link the yts?
iiNGloriouS
01-21-2015, 11:51 PM
Raid suspensions, this is coming from the guy who trained nihilum for an upwards of around 8 hours in VP.
Lawyerquest.
krazyGlue
01-22-2015, 12:53 AM
Raid suspensions, this is coming from the guy who trained nihilum for an upwards of around 8 hours in VP.
Lawyerquest.
It was legal at the time
krazyGlue
01-22-2015, 12:54 AM
lite suicided to the iksar master
u guys r real dum
Naw gong tried to get it summon him and lite gate potted
Kenan
01-22-2015, 01:01 AM
heard lite is mad banned and sand?
Stasis01
01-22-2015, 01:34 AM
Judging by these forums you'd think Azrael wasn't as awful as they are.
It's a good illusion.
Judging by these forums you'd think Azrael wasn't as awful as they are.
It's a good illusion.
the trick is defeating your enemies despite their zerg numbers.
Stasis01
01-22-2015, 01:46 AM
If you wait long enough in EQ, you'll get your turn.
Even king Nizzar didn't run forever - you'd be crazy to think Gong will too.
That's hardly winning - so far Az 0-2 against Nihi now Holo, that's fucking not good bro.
JudgementRed
01-22-2015, 02:03 AM
4 days into his 28 day suspension and Lite is all ready running at full forum retard?
http://i.imgur.com/1dWNMnU.jpg
Not_Kazowi
01-22-2015, 03:25 AM
colgate was like 3 years old when eq released kid knows nothing
Is this supposed to be an insult? Like someone can control when they are born you idiot
VictomEyez
01-22-2015, 04:55 AM
I like how u defended your ban from fay.but failed to mention AZ trained with the people who werent camped at north wall..
also its retarded banning Lite because u usually log in other throw away bards and toons to do more dirty work.
Holo didnt fraps sadly.
explain how there was so many naked holo but very few YT at first
then came all the naked and rezzed yt...
so no I dont think it did much to azrael because who cares about a faydedar when u have cazic thule.
And like I said who cares about Lite when ull be on some other bard/toon
Cobretti
01-22-2015, 06:49 AM
its a pvp server, trains should be legal, everything should be legal...let the fucking red population police themselves.
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MavstabYoudead
01-22-2015, 06:54 AM
I like how u defended your ban from fay.but failed to mention AZ trained with the people who werent camped at north wall..
also its retarded banning Lite because u usually log in other throw away bards and toons to do more dirty work.
Holo didnt fraps sadly.
explain how there was so many naked holo but very few YT at first
then came all the naked and rezzed yt...
so no I dont think it did much to azrael because who cares about a faydedar when u have cazic thule.
And like I said who cares about Lite when ull be on some other bard/toon
because you guys had just done draco very poorly?
NEXT
Buhbuh
01-22-2015, 07:02 AM
As much as I enjoyed all the YT from the drones rushing over and over again, I gotta agree. Bluest thing I've seen on red. Throwing naked bodies nonstop to compensate for no tactic is not how this game was intended to be played.
are you dense?
this was more red of an action than i've ever seen on this server in the past year. you obviously don't know what being red is if you misidentified that. this is the exact type of fights beastagor, slathar and fecal want. that was exactly what live was like. exactly.
it brought flashbacks
it was tenacious and hard won
i think guilds should be held accountable, but people like brobb reporting edward for calling him a "******" when you guys say that shit 100's of times in TS to each other is ridiculous. your TS is the most racist group of people I've seen. i know brobb doesnt give a shit, he's the worst offender. i have recordings of him spewing racial epithets left and right.
but i think lawyerquesting is making the server more blue than ever. both sides are trying to coerce one another into making slight mistakes that no one really gives a shit about but can be construed as illegal behavior, and the bans start rolling.
literally minutes ago Krakin dispelled my pet in Sebilis, knowing i'd be exp killed and then brought 8 mobs to the entrance and feigned them on top of me naked trying to CR minutes later.
"hard to farm huh"
you don't give a shit, Lite. i know you dont because i was in azrael twice. i told you dozens of times to control your dogs (mrbigs especially) and you ignored it because they're your bros and you don't care. in any real guild with real leadership, sickpuppy would be gone (not made an officer), slathar would be booted (also not made an officer), fecal would be gone, brainz would definitely be kicked.
this is a ruse to inflate your ego. shut the fuck up already and sit back while the pros improve this place
seriously, sit your ass down
we got it under control, dipshit
MavstabYoudead
01-22-2015, 07:15 AM
you guys started the lawyerquest cyren so get off the soapbox.
what should krakin have done when fighting you in sebilis let you keep your pet which would destroy him? And you are calling someone else dense? really....
you are in no position to chastise when you have pyro deleveling his epic wiz and griefing new players in com, by your standards he should be kicked right? let me know when that happens. also lol at all the racist talk from all that I've heard about gyno....
Buhbuh
01-22-2015, 07:18 AM
mavstab, it's time to stop now.
MavstabYoudead
01-22-2015, 07:19 AM
mavstab, it's time to stop now.
it is time for you to stop before we start talking about your RMT tendencies.
CYA
Real question. When engaging an enchanter with a charmed pet who in their right mind is not going to dispel the pet especially if it's a class like a monk with no cc option on the pet?
Buhbuh
01-22-2015, 07:22 AM
lol, it's not like i had a pet just waiting for him, dog. i was farming and engaged with 3 other mobs.
it really doesnt change the fact that he blatantly ran 8 mobs into me at zone in well aware of me being there and feigned on top of me
just stop, you're embarrassing yourself
MavstabYoudead
01-22-2015, 07:24 AM
you're the only one doing that. Known RMT'er on here talking about server health.
Also acting like a monk should engage him with a charmed pet and should wait for him to be done with his PVE'ing prior to PVP.
Hope your financial problems have improved so you can quit breaking server rules to pay rent.
CYA
Buhbuh
01-22-2015, 08:11 AM
"farmin is hard huh" isn't really an appropriate response to tell someone after "unintentionally" causing exp loss, though, is it?
saying nothing at all or even offering to rez the person is a typical non toxic response
you know this, but you're a biased moron defending insignificant points because forumquest
if we were in a TS channel together right now, you'd be much quieter and obsequious arguing over bullshit.
if you want to provide prof of me RMTing, and feel it's relevant to any part of this thread, then by all means, do it. otherwise you just look like a dipshit trying to mud-sling against anyone not azrael. it's not rustling anybody. it never happened. get over it.
HOLOCAUST CROOTIN'
MavstabYoudead
01-22-2015, 08:15 AM
I don't condone training I didn't even touch that part. if he did it there are punishments in place for it.
I argued your other points which were hypocritical and just stupid to say the least.
I'd say the same I've said to you in TS or in person. It's true you RMT'd I don't need proof. Log in bubs and send me a tell tonight. You admitted your plans to sell him due to your financial situation in TS to multiple people, myself included.
what "prof" do you have of anything you said in this thread? You know what a hypocritical moron you sound like crying for prof when you just come and provide baseless accusations as well? I'm guessing you don't even realize it.
HOLOCAUST CROOTIN KNOWN RMT'ERS LIKE CYREN
Nirgon
01-22-2015, 09:05 AM
Table scraps guild scummin it up
MavstabYoudead
01-22-2015, 09:07 AM
cya in fear?
Buhbuh
01-22-2015, 09:14 AM
cool, good talk
holo crootin, slaying entire world map every week PST in game to cyren
MavstabYoudead
01-22-2015, 09:23 AM
cool, good talk
holo crootin, slaying entire world map every week PST in game to cyren
or bubs, right?
Ragnaros
01-22-2015, 09:24 AM
"farmin is hard huh" isn't really an appropriate response to tell someone after "unintentionally" causing exp loss, though, is it?
saying nothing at all or even offering to rez the person is a typical non toxic response
you know this, but you're a biased moron defending insignificant points because forumquest
if we were in a TS channel together right now, you'd be much quieter and obsequious arguing over bullshit.
if you want to provide prof of me RMTing, and feel it's relevant to any part of this thread, then by all means, do it. otherwise you just look like a dipshit trying to mud-sling against anyone not azrael. it's not rustling anybody. it never happened. get over it.
HOLOCAUST CROOTIN'
That is pretty embaressing though......if you cant pay your rent you shouldnt really be playing dawg
Pikrib
01-22-2015, 09:34 AM
That is pretty embaressing though......if you cant pay your rent you shouldnt really be playing dawg
The reason Sektor gave for RMTing off Lite was "Because Lite was poor and he was trying to help the guy out."
Glass houses bros...
Kergan
01-22-2015, 10:11 AM
Still not sure why people get so worked up over RMT. If you don't like your guildleader RMTing to members just quit like Pikrib, Jib, etc.
My advice to Lite is just RMT the shit nobody wants, history has proven nobody gives 2 shits about that. :)
iiNGloriouS
01-22-2015, 11:25 AM
Guys I rmted 10 copper last night. I'm such a scumlord.
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