server health

[Agatha]

heard a certain guild leader develed his epic wizard to kill new players in COM.



c/d?

[silo32]

Pyro confirmed lvl 55, epic, rile, etc chills on roof and pk's new players in fresh/suave mostly in scrubby gear.

Shook holo alt gets buffed by Icehouse @ Freeport bank on the regular then kills newbs in oasis surrounding areas.

Toxic? Server health?

[Smedy]

that's terp, i did what i could to rid the server of this scumbag, sorry i have failed you.... the flow of incoming pixels was to strong

[Colgate]

when did pyrokinetic get a crown of rile?

[Agatha]

when did pyrokinetic get a crown of rile?

thats the only thing u see wrong with this?

[Colgate]

considering he doesn't farm new players, the rest of it is dumb/retarded

[Agatha]

what do you consider people leveling in COM?

cause pretty sure only dumb people(new to the game) level in COM cause they dont realize thats were all the griefers are camped

[Kergan]

Pretty simple just join Holo if you don't want to die.

Sounds like a legit recruiting strat to me.

[Colgate]

looking at the list of players he's killed in com in the last month

there are like 2 people on that entire list i'd say are new players

[Agatha]

Pyrokinetic Holocaust Gossip Suave The City of Mist 0.52 January 14 2015 10:21:32 PM
Pyrokinetic Holocaust Cwms Suave The City of Mist 0.38 January 14 2015 10:18:54 PM
Pyrokinetic Holocaust Exia Angry Wolves The City of Mist 0.36 January 14 2015 10:16:38 PM
Pyrokinetic Holocaust Juzam Suave The City of Mist 0.57 January 13 2015 12:51:17 PM
Pyrokinetic Holocaust Teez The City of Mist 0.71 January 10 2015 8:49:53 PM
Pyrokinetic Holocaust Zelzibub The City of Mist 0.20 January 09 2015 1:32:16 PM
Pyrokinetic Holocaust Jaqweezius Fresh The City of Mist 0.28 December 28 2014 10:04:57 PM
Pyrokinetic Holocaust Shameless Angry Wolves The City of Mist 0.08 December 27 2014 6:51:34 PM
Pyrokinetic Holocaust Miten REDRUM The City of Mist 0.23 December 23 2014 1:38:30 AM
Pyrokinetic Holocaust Miten REDRUM The City of Mist 0.02 December 21 2014 5:06:49 PM
Pyrokinetic Holocaust Shart Angry Wolves The City of Mist 0.40 December 20 2014 3:56:53 AM

seriously lol who the fuck are these guys? some real big names in that list.

[Humerox]

looking at the list of players he's killed in com in the last month

there are like 2 people on that entire list i'd say are new players

yeah there are some old players in that CoM list

anyone with any sense goes elsewhere anyway

[Colgate]

weird i've seen a majority of those names for a long time

guess you're out of touch with red99

and reality

[Agatha]

it amazes me how you can bash azrael for killing newbs, yet your own guild leader is deleveled his epic wizard to kill people leveling in com.


god. azrael and holo are perfect for eachother. you guys deserve eachother. so much.

[Sektor]

terp is scummy and colgate is a bitch

[Colgate]

terp is scummy and colgate is a bitch

and u r a scummy bitch

[Agatha]

http://i.imgur.com/I7cU2NO.jpg

[Agatha]

im just saying, if you are going to talk to the talk, walk the walk.

[Colgate]

i wonder what it's like being insane

[Agatha]

i wonder what its like when all you can do is attack someone's character because you cant dispute the facts.

[Flexin]

7 people on that list are from blue in the last 2 months. Got to know most of those nigs real goog during my week long suspension 8)

[Agatha]

would like nirgon to chime in on this, were does de-leveling an epic wizard to 55 and pking new players fall in between these 2 great leaders?




.I've been anti-Nizzar and anti-Lite for quite some time now. Both are fucking garbo tier for server growth/reputation as guild leaders.

it really is a shame that this community doesn't hold its leaders to a higher standard it would ripple effect through the server and make it so much better. assholes would be cast out. instead of turned into legends.

Makes me sick.

[Fame]

red as fuck

[Casey VII]

lol what is this

[Kergan]

Item loot would really help these new players kill an epic VP geared wizard in CoM.

[Humerox]

Item loot would really help these new players kill an epic VP geared wizard in CoM.

while reducing red population back to sub 100

item loot only attracted hardcore players...even RZ had to give it up

[Humerox]

although I am personally in favor of it. great RZ post by falstafe:

"Yes, making CCing less likely (people could still camp a PvE corpse just to grief somone), is a good thing, but not at the cost of devastating the unique ruleset of our server. Rallos wasn't just the "no team" server, it was the "Item loot" server, and that item loot rule is what dictated our gameplay and politics. No-drop items were actually desirable on our server, while every other server thought them a nuisance for the most part. The great thing about a no-drop item environment though, was the fact that people had to actually earn what they were wearing, or they risked losing it. We didn't have to worry about ebayed-plat or twinks that much, except at very low lvls. Most importantly, the item loot ruleset benefited the smart players, not just the richest. You had to do research to find the best gear for yourself, and then go and get it for yourself, not just sit around auctioning all day for a month. Players actually tradeskilled and quested, something that other servers usually only see at the end game. You could take pride in your gear, even if it was less that most people your lvl had, because it was yours.

I would compare easy to get no-drop item augments (or worse the SR spawning system), to the replacement of swords with rifles. It takes much less skill to kill somone with a rifle than with a sword. Yes, both are dangerous, but in sword-vs-sword combat the most skilled fighter wll almost always win. In rifle-vs-rifle combat, the only skill that matters is aim, even if it's nothing but a lucky shot; first one to pull the trigger and hit wins. And in sword-vs-rifle combat, the sword weilder may never know what hit him, and all the training he went through for his skill with that sword in suddenly for nought.

That is in essence what the elimination of item loot does to Rallos, it places power (items being the manifestation of that in EQ) into the hands of everyone who is willing to do nothing but farm cash, or worse ebay cash, to gear themselves. Knowledge of the game no longer matters, hard work put toward character development no longer matters, PvP skill with your class barely even matters anymore. "Uber" no longer aplies to the person sitting at the keyboard, just the character they have access to.

Anyone remember camping Guardian and Sentry for you main, or even the first time you got an aviak charm? By EQ item standards, they were basically crap, but you were happy to have them all the same, because those were Rallos items.

Yeah, the people who wore full BD/Diamond resist gear suits with a Regen BP technically had a PvP advantage, but that gear they bought in gfay was also more vulnerable than mine, and while I stood and fought to the last, they ran scared if they got below 50%, or pulled a HP ring, or only fought in groups. They were nothing but a carbon-copy ganker in my eyes, and I'de be willing to bet that's the way most people saw them. They were boring to fight, because they did anything imaginable to kill others without risk to themselves, and risk-free combat is not fun. I may not have been risking my no-drop gear, but I was risking the pride I had in my PvP ability, something the people on our server barely have at all anymore.

When the PvP items are put in, the people who bought their character's power, and use that power to kill only those weaker than themselves, will be rewarded with even more power, and risk-free combat will be the only type that is encouraged by the RZ PvP system. People who stand and fight on principal will be penalized for that ideal, and 6v1 gank squads, hacks, exploits, twinks, $tormhammer transfers, and zone-pluggers will run rampant.

Sorry for the rant, but this point system has me very despondent about the future of our server, this shouldn't be why we choose to PvP. Heck even the possibility of loot shouldn't be the reason we do it. Items loot was a balancing mechanism that helped ensure people only had the PvP prowess they deserved, or they risked losing some of that advantage every time they lost, and that kept the no-tallent people skulking in the shadows where they belonged.

The only way I can imagine a PvP point system working at all on RZ is if you lose ALL your points on any non-xp death, which are then all given to the last PC who dmged you. Then the people who do nothing but gank-farm points will actually be risking something."

[BossThunderace]

Pyrokinetic Holocaust Gossip Suave The City of Mist 0.52 January 14 2015 10:21:32 PM
Pyrokinetic Holocaust Cwms Suave The City of Mist 0.38 January 14 2015 10:18:54 PM
Pyrokinetic Holocaust Exia Angry Wolves The City of Mist 0.36 January 14 2015 10:16:38 PM
Pyrokinetic Holocaust Juzam Suave The City of Mist 0.57 January 13 2015 12:51:17 PM
Pyrokinetic Holocaust Teez The City of Mist 0.71 January 10 2015 8:49:53 PM
Pyrokinetic Holocaust Zelzibub The City of Mist 0.20 January 09 2015 1:32:16 PM
Pyrokinetic Holocaust Jaqweezius Fresh The City of Mist 0.28 December 28 2014 10:04:57 PM
Pyrokinetic Holocaust Shameless Angry Wolves The City of Mist 0.08 December 27 2014 6:51:34 PM
Pyrokinetic Holocaust Miten REDRUM The City of Mist 0.23 December 23 2014 1:38:30 AM
Pyrokinetic Holocaust Miten REDRUM The City of Mist 0.02 December 21 2014 5:06:49 PM
Pyrokinetic Holocaust Shart Angry Wolves The City of Mist 0.40 December 20 2014 3:56:53 AM

seriously lol who the fuck are these guys? some real big names in that list.


weird i've seen a majority of those names for a long time

guess you're out of touch with red99

and reality


Relatively speaking, I am very new here to r99. I play Miten the Wizard. I've come to the conclusion that - to level past 52, get gear, and avoid shameless pvp, there is one option. That single option is to join Holo.

Holo will most likely get you pixels, and you get protection from, well.. Holo. However you do not get protection from Holo playing untagged alts.

Suave is like a few ex-Holo/AZ people w gear (correct me if I'm wrong) and a bunch of newbs like myself. Newbs being - very new to r99, I still have cloth armor.

Fresh is full of people that are not high enough to be in Holo, props to the freshies that stick it out past 46.

AZ gets pvp action.. they advertise themselves as PVP guild, "looking for PVPers"..

... AZ doesn't mention anything about getting pixels for pvp combat.



has it been said yet?..
"Join Holo for pixels then do whatever you want"


The drama is a bunch of whiney internet nut swingers in ooc + p99 forums. Like a Jerry springer episode. <Jerry! Jerry! Jerry!>

There is a small portion of the server that has the gear to compete at REAL PVP. I could give two fucks about spending that much time in game to get there on this server.



I'd rather hang with the pals I've made and help them do shit - I beat Everquest. :)




Congrats to the pixels who've yt me, tried to yt me, and who want to yt me.

Here are my most recent deaths on red:
Terp Holocaust Miten REDRUM The City of Mist 0.24 January 14 2015 12:05:47 AM
Iulz Miten REDRUM Ruins of Old Guk 0.24 January 11 2015 10:12:38 PM
Heather Miten REDRUM Southern Desert of Ro 0.27 January 11 2015 7:34:03 PM
Bigbang Miten REDRUM Greater Faydark 0.30 January 09 2015 11:28:52 PM
Piph Fresh Miten REDRUM Ruins of Old Guk 0.33 January 09 2015 1:29:48 AM
Vazgoul Holocaust Miten REDRUM Lesser Faydark 0.03 January 08 2015 8:35:24 PM
Wakizashi Miten REDRUM Castle Mistmoore 0.37 January 08 2015 8:29:46 PM
Drewpy Holocaust Miten REDRUM Northern Felwithe 0.28 December 31 2014 2:36:44 PM
Romeo Flowers of Happiness Miten REDRUM Southern Desert of Ro 0.31 December 31 2014 12:45:29 AM
Romeo Flowers of Happiness Miten REDRUM Dreadlands 0.01 December 27 2014 10:54:49 PM
Romeo Flowers of Happiness Miten REDRUM Dreadlands 0.17 December 27 2014 10:51:10 PM
Season Fresh Miten REDRUM Lesser Faydark 0.18 December 27 2014 10:15:01 PM
Vazgoul Holocaust Miten REDRUM Northern Felwithe 0.20 December 26 2014 2:36:39 AM
Pyrokinetic Holocaust Miten REDRUM The City of Mist 0.23 December 23 2014 1:38:30 AM
Efreeti Fresh Miten REDRUM The City of Mist 0.25 December 22 2014 11:22:20 AM
Pyrokinetic Holocaust Miten REDRUM The City of Mist 0.02 December 21 2014 5:06:49 PM
Vazgoul Holocaust Miten REDRUM Northern Plains of Karana 0.23 December 21 2014 5:04:56 PM
Dizark Holocaust Miten REDRUM West Commonlands 0.02 December 20 2014 12:03:39 AM
Sesshomaru Holocaust Miten REDRUM West Commonlands 0.02 December 19 2014 11:58:26 PM
Sesshomaru Holocaust Miten REDRUM West Commonlands 0.26 December 19 2014 11:57:32 PM


Your pixel < My pixel

[Humerox]

Fresh has quite a few members that are newly 60 or approaching it very quickly

they have a chill and relaxed TS without spergs
they have aquired at least 6 epics if not more in the last two weeks or so
they are starting to contest areas like Chardok, Seb, the Planes etc
they have a large number of lower levels that actively group
they pvp Holo when it suits them and Azrael is KoS

Holo is NOT the only option

[Humerox]

*acquired

[Terpuntine]

LOL, u srs? You idiots don't even know what grief is.

[vouss]

Very warming words for the concerned new players here

[derpcake]

I'd be a target for this guy on my currently unguilded lvl 51. (tag plz)

Who cares about CoM pvp tho? Easy to bind close by, camp for 10 mins, resume easy xp?

Its not like lvl 12 guys are being destroyed by fungi / epic twinks.

[mr.miketastic]

I figured Shook was a Holo alt. So my solution is out the griefers. Now we know of at least 2-3 holo members who are playing the grief game.
Oh yes, I know, it's red as fuck right? nah, nah dude, it's not. it's you trying to justify being a fuckshit. There are some awesome people on the server who pvp, then there's the cockbags who preach about server health and not driving the newbs away, yet log on to their epiced fungi twink and clear out XP zones.
I rememebr in CB one time, when Mikehunt/Gongshow was griefing, Spore came in and pwned his ass. Dardalion was buffing and healing, then apparently Gongshow piped up in TS and Dard was like "Man, he's a guildie I gotta stand down" and I paraphrase.
So, who is really interested in the server health?

[MavstabYoudead]

server health is the propaganda they are spewing in order to do what it takes to farm pixels uncontested. the majority of that guild wouldn't care if pvp was disabled here as long as they could see pve content that they never got to see on live.

[LostCause]

TLDR

HOLO IS TOXIC

[mr.miketastic]

You're right. ya know what Az pals? Keep up the good fight against the Zergling griefers.

[MavstabYoudead]

[QUOTE=BossThunderace;1743953]Relatively speaking, I am very new here to r99. I play Miten the Wizard. I've come to the conclusion that - to level past 52, get gear, and avoid shameless pvp, there is one option. That single option is to join Holo.

Holo will most likely get you pixels, and you get protection from, well.. Holo. However you do not get protection from Holo playing untagged alts.

Suave is like a few ex-Holo/AZ people w gear (correct me if I'm wrong) and a bunch of newbs like myself. Newbs being - very new to r99, I still have cloth armor.

Fresh is full of people that are not high enough to be in Holo, props to the freshies that stick it out past 46.

AZ gets pvp action.. they advertise themselves as PVP guild, "looking for PVPers"..

... AZ doesn't mention anything about getting pixels for pvp combat.



has it been said yet?..
"Join Holo for pixels then do whatever you want"

Parts of this are true. AZ gets plenty of PVP pixels and i'd argue that on a per player basis it's just as high as holo or close to it. It comes down to if you want to basically play on a blue server and farm mobs with 50+ people that takes no skill whatsoever, or if you prefer to do things with fewer people and actually have to be paying attention.

Suave also isn't what you suggest i'd say they are also new players that didn't want to join fresh. I help them out when I can with ports or making JC for cost, but they aren't affiliated with azrael or holocaust.

[Swish]

People getting sniped in CoM, that's new...

[Colgate]

since when was mikehunt gongshow?

i don't think gongshow has a single alt other than his other level 60 monk

[Slathar]

what about his other 60 monk

[Nirgon]

I figured Shook was a Holo alt. So my solution is out the griefers. Now we know of at least 2-3 holo members who are playing the grief game.
Oh yes, I know, it's red as fuck right? nah, nah dude, it's not. it's you trying to justify being a fuckshit. There are some awesome people on the server who pvp, then there's the cockbags who preach about server health and not driving the newbs away, yet log on to their epiced fungi twink and clear out XP zones.
I rememebr in CB one time, when Mikehunt/Gongshow was griefing, Spore came in and pwned his ass. Dardalion was buffing and healing, then apparently Gongshow piped up in TS and Dard was like "Man, he's a guildie I gotta stand down" and I paraphrase.
So, who is really interested in the server health?

Gongshow isnt Mikehunt

I've seen him and Bakingsoda (the renamed Mike) on @ same time.

Terp is not pvping in CoM at anything remotely resembling "grief" capacity.

If you'd like to see the difference between what he's doing now and the actual grief I've seen, just ask. I'm sure he's more than happy to show you.

[Slathar]

also lol at this while thread

who gives a shit if someone from holocaust deleveled an epic wizard? that sounds fucking great and i am jealous as shit. quit equating pvp with grief or go back to blue.

[Slathar]

also lol at this while thread

who gives a shit if someone from holocaust deleveled an epic wizard? that sounds fucking great and i am jealous as shit. quit equating pvp with grief or go back to blue.

while = whole

[mr.miketastic]

Cool, now that's settled. I will be waiting on the crying about how the population is dropping. Carry on pals.

[Pikrib]

Mikehunt AKA Bakingsoda is Redd btw. A member of Azrael.

Redd is friends with the "Jersey crew" Sealer, Msbigs, Sickpuppy. He farms fungi tonics with them. Hence Y he has a fungi of his own on a lvl 9 Crushbone twink.

No trolling here. 100% serious.

[Slathar]

so? pvp in crushbone is hilarious

if you dont like it go back to blue

[Pikrib]

so? pvp in crushbone is hilarious

if you dont like it go back to blue

Fine I guess I will go back to blue.



*Gets in car and drives off to blue*

[MavstabYoudead]

Fine I guess I will go back to blue.



*Gets in car and drives off to blue*

you already did. you joined holo.

[Flexin]

porsche*

[sotto]

agatha having breakdown over lvl 55 character

seek help

[Nirgon]

Pretty sad you think:

"Let's grief all these people off the server they are going to join Holo or Fresh"

before

"Let's improve our reputation and commitment to growing the community so people will want to join us!"


Oh Azrael :/

Then blaming Mikehunt/Bakingsoda being Gongshow.. 0 class

[Pikrib]

Pyrokinetic Holocaust Teez The City of Mist 0.71 January 10 2015 8:49:53 PM


He killed a Holocaust alt here I believe.

[mr.miketastic]

Pretty sad you think:

"Let's grief all these people off the server they are going to join Holo or Fresh"

before

"Let's improve our reputation and commitment to growing the community so people will want to join us!"


Oh Azrael :/

Then blaming Mikehunt/Bakingsoda being Gongshow.. 0 class

Funny how Mikehunt admitted to being Gong, then Dardalion confirmed. I see holo blaming a whole passel of issues on Azrael, but then this twink griefer bullshit gets in the way, and I see denials, but nothing that contradicts my anecdote.. I think there's not much else I like less than bullies.

[Nirgon]

I like Gongshow leading VS while Bakingsoda was griefing in crush bone at the same time

[mr.miketastic]

I like Gongshow leading VS while Bakingsoda was griefing in crush bone at the same time

BTW, before you blame this on Azrael, guess what? I'm not in Az, never have been and never will be.

[Pikrib]

mike

You have what one convo that you partially overheard you are taking as absolute proof.

I have almost a year spent in Azrael to tell ya Redd = Mikehunt.

[Colgate]

BTW, before you blame this on Azrael, guess what? I'm not in Az, never have been and never will be.

if i make a crushbone twink and tell you that i'm you, would you believe me(you)?

[Kergan]

Yes. I mean no.

Yes?

[Guido]

holo doing work on CoM

terp a real joke and confirmed scumbag

how dare you

[Kergan]

Remember when Andis app'd to Holo and was denied?

[Colgate]

yes

then i killed him 1v1 in sebilis like a week later

Colgate Holocaust Andis Fair Fighters Old Sebilis 0.94 August 30 2014 11:22:54 AM

feels goog

[Kergan]

Damn he wasn't even worth 1 point.

[Kimm Bare|y]

Miten deserves it. He was doing the same faggot Tanaris PVP shit in CoM.

[Buhbuh]

You can't just uproot Sharknado from CoM and expect to exp as an enemy guild freely without paying the troll toll.

[Kergan]

http://serious-internet.biz/resize/700/-/1360/funny-gay-troll-danny-devito-always-sunny-troll-toll-1360348507.png

[krazyGlue]

mike

You have what one convo that you partially overheard you are taking as absolute proof.

I have almost a year spent in Azrael to tell ya I = Mikehunt.

[krazyGlue]

Mikehunt AKA Bakingsoda is me btw. A ex member of Azrael.

Im friends with the "Jersey crew" Sealer, Msbigs, Sickpuppy. I farm fungi tonics with them. Hence Y he has a fungi of his own on a lvl 9 Crushbone twink.

No trolling here. 100% serious.

[krazyGlue]

Oh and btw pikrib . Being a traitor scum is 1 thing . But lieing and snitching like a fgt is another

[mr.miketastic]

if i make a crushbone twink and tell you that i'm you, would you believe me(you)?

Sweet! Sounds like a plan :)

[mr.miketastic]

mike

You have what one convo that you partially overheard you are taking as absolute proof.

I have almost a year spent in Azrael to tell ya Redd = Mikehunt.

Ok. I don't really know who Redd is though.

[Pikrib]

Oh and btw pikrib . Being a traitor scum is 1 thing . But lieing and snitching like a fgt is another


So did I lie or snitch?


<3 u Sickpuppy.

[Nirgon]

BTW, before you blame this on Azrael, guess what? I'm not in Az, never have been and never will be.

yeh you wish I blamed it on you being in Azrael

[Nirgon]

Pikrib won't tell us everything, he says he still likes most of you

Can't wait for you to change that, I'm sure he's a gold mine

[Kergan]

Yikes, Azrael fading quickly.

[gobletsmashing]

Same here ... I really only have been pked by wall-campers in CoM .. not really PvP just griefing. Whatever floats your boat I guess, we'll still level despite your attempts to keep us down.

Wall-campedEfreeti Fresh Juzam Suave The City of Mist 0.45 January 14 2015 1:26:47 PM
Wall-campedReap Holocaust Juzam Suave The City of Mist 0.09 January 14 2015 12:08:09 AM
Wall-campedTerp Holocaust Juzam Suave The City of Mist 0.51 January 13 2015 11:56:08 PM
Wall-campedPyrokinetic Holocaust Juzam Suave The City of Mist 0.57 January 13 2015 12:51:17 PM
AFKDogfood Flowers of Happiness Juzam Suave Qeynos Aqueduct System 0.04 January 11 2015 6:11:03 PM
AFKDogfood Flowers of Happiness Juzam Suave Qeynos Aqueduct System 0.42 January 11 2015 6:07:06 PM
AFKHeebie Juzam Naked and Afraid Misty Thicket 0.47 January 10 2015 6:04:23 AM
Legit killLindros Angry Wolves Juzam Naked and Afraid Estate of Unrest 0.50 December 21 2014 10:11:23 PM

[Kimm Bare|y]

YALL sum OBESE neKBeaRD *****s

fO REAL DOE

[Nirgon]

Yeah Terp killin them Suave after being told Exed was the guild leader, what a JERK

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

Don't Afk on a red server

[gobletsmashing]

I'm not bitching about afk kills - the CoM wall-farmers are just gay and it's not impressive - that's what this thread is about

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

I like terp.

He blew up my groupmate on the ramparts then asked me for a clarity.

Also, he helped me kill Dread Widow when I was 49.

CoM wall camping been going on for a LONG time. Be happy you weren't there when UBN was ruling the skies. I mostly out levelled it by that point but the Boomwiz, Pablo, Vazghoul combo was something to be feared.

[gobletsmashing]

Well that's my plan - just outlevel it like I did when I was level 10 - 25 and all the griefing there

[Genedin]

Agatha...you keep using the word "Leader".... I don't think it means what you think it means.

[Pikrib]

I'm not bitching about afk kills - the CoM wall-farmers are just gay and it's not impressive - that's what this thread is about

I agree CoM kills are kinda pathetic. It takes 0 skill to bind up top and rain down death from above with no repercussions. If you were in a place like GuK Sol B or the hole they would have to risk a death to engage ya.

[Ragnaros]

terp is scummy and colgate is a little scrawny bitch

ftfy

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

also lol at this while thread

who gives a shit if someone from holocaust deleveled an epic wizard? that sounds fucking great and i am jealous as shit. quit equating pvp with grief or go back to blue.

[Terpuntine]

I agree CoM kills are kinda pathetic. It takes 0 skill to bind up top and rain down death from above with no repercussions. If you were in a place like GuK Sol B or the hole they would have to risk a death to engage ya.

Mhmm (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iwp0-BDfKc&feature=youtu.be)

[Pikrib]

Mhmm (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iwp0-BDfKc&feature=youtu.be)

Erock!!!!! Nooooooo!!!!!

[Nirgon]

I just told people not to AFK and spammed pumices on them when they reared their ugly heads

0 deaths in CoM on my warrior who lvled there 40-50, no hairs... or cares for that matter

[bouncerr 2.0]

com is clear right now cuz pyro killing people everyday up on the wall, not mad just sad

[Tassador]

fuck I am sick and tired of having my exp group ruined by this wizards playing full time on blue now!!!!

[Pikrib]

com is clear right now cuz pyro killing people everyday up on the wall, not mad just sad

I would hope that CoM is clear because people have jobs and are working at 10 AM.

[Schnarf]

last time a epic + geared 60 deleveled to grief in com was brobb and he was banned within 2 days.....

boomwiz AKA Hammertime was also banned for a week for doing this but cried enough to get his butthurt faced wizard back.

[bouncerr 2.0]

you really think even 30 % of this server is employed LOL

[bouncerr 2.0]

btw some people play at work like me and exed

[Kimm Bare|y]

btw some people play at work like me and exed

http://www.allhailtheblackmarket.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/5junkiejesus.jpg

[bouncerr 2.0]

dont get it never touched a needle

[Nirgon]

He is going to post that every single time you post something

in case you didn't know already

[Kimm Bare|y]

http://i.imgur.com/n9Aac.jpg

[Nirgon]

Lulz u got any experience with C++ or the unity engine?

Need someone to code a_skellerton_01 hits 47 dmg for upcoming gayme

[Kimm Bare|y]

http://i.imgur.com/BpIyola.jpg

[BossThunderace]

LOL, u srs? You idiots don't even know what grief is.

YOU - ARE THE IDIOT.

p99 is EZMODE for you already.. how long have you been here? - do you enjoy griefing new players? or do you want to have a challenge?

Try rolling a new character without (Holo) pixels.

[Kergan]

Very dramatic use of bold and font size changes, bravo.

[BossThunderace]

Miten deserves it. He was doing the same faggot Tanaris PVP shit in CoM.

READMOAR:

Miten REDRUM Cavvy Fresh The City of Mist 0.04 December 14 2014 5:59:31 AM
Miten REDRUM Cavvy Fresh The City of Mist 0.41 December 14 2014 5:54:54 AM
Miten REDRUM Shadowxone Musk The City of Mist 0.55 December 14 2014 5:51:10 AM

Want a story? Cavvy was involved in getting me PKd until I realized it was the wrong elf and apologized. Since then we've helped each other.

NOW CRYMOAR

"I will bottle your tears, and drink them" - Vazghoul

[Nirgon]

http://scrapetv.com/News/newsbrief/technology/images-1/old-person-using-computer.jpg

[BossThunderace]

:)

http://img.pandawhale.com/post-1259-INTERESTING-cat-couch-meme-alS9.jpeg

[dontbanpls]

Sounds like some people should join <Fresh> If they are interested in accountability

[Kimm Bare|y]

DIs nig jimmy rustled SON

[BossThunderace]

DIs nig jimmy rustled SON

https://public-ch3301.files.1drv.com/y2pMZ6smmbaTTxOv50INtsLK2qz7OSrHttDlS7wlysQUtd3PFn 3PPgJcBrRuVZgLEZaG_jCBlk78JgC9fyHKklZ-kzTskBMiyzZ3_YP8yGtMxs/Please-Speak-English.gif?psid=1&rdrts=95971387

[Nirgon]

I'm cool with Miten doe

[krazyGlue]

miten Azrael has an open spot for you .

[Agatha]

all of you guys are missing the point.

holocaust continues to flaunt server health as the end all be all, meanwhile you have leaders of holocaust de-leveling epic wizards to farm com.

it doesn't even matter that they are new players or not at this point, that right there is enough to get you called out on your bullshit.

The fact that you guys think these new players are related to azrael, or rather telling everyone they are is also bullshit. you cant just say "these players are azrael alts and thats why they can be killed".

I dug a bit deeper into this sauve guild and apparently its exed's guild and other than that its all new players besides the 1 or 2 alts from other guilds.


i'd just like holo to walk the walk if they are going to talk the talk. This server could be so much better if the leaders of the top guild just set a good example for its members.

[vouss]

The truth is out pyrokinetc is my alt, yes I am a griefer and yes I am azrael

[BossThunderace]

I'm cool with Miten doe

http://media3.giphy.com/media/IxJMT1ugyBMdy/giphy.gif

[Nirgon]

Look at the history of kills.

You're making it out to be like he's preventing people from xping in there around the clock.

Compare him and Mesrine -> realize you are trying real hard to stretch.

[Agatha]

Look at the history of kills.

You're making it out to be like he's preventing people from xping in there around the clock.

Compare him and Mesrine -> realize you are trying real hard to stretch.

i'm stopping something before it starts. he obviously deleveled with com in mind.


and you're right, there are way worse offenders but im not talking about them, im talking about a guild leader that should set an example for everyone, maybe if we didnt have him giggling in holo TS saying how he was nuking new players from the sky of COM we wouldn't have others following his example so often? hmmm.

[dontbanpls]

Suave gets plvled by Erock <Azrae> all day, claims no relation

[Samsung]

Suave gets plvled by Erock <Azrae> all day, claims no relation

Got prof?

[Mac Drettj]

btw some people play at work like me and exed

i have a hard time believing that country bumpkin can manage a job that involves a puter

[Nirgon]

Terp <Holocaust> wizard (flying main guild tag proudly, aint trying to be no sneak scum):
http://r99pvp.com/showplayer.php?p=Pyrokinetic&ks=1

Mesrine (dunno who):
http://r99pvp.com/showplayer.php?p=Mesrine&ks=5

Bakingsoda (Redd <Azrael>):
http://r99pvp.com/showplayer.php?p=Bakingsoda&ks=6


Keep stretchin n reachin

[Agatha]

Suave gets plvled by Erock <Azrae> all day, claims no relation

i remember when i met erock on this server way way way back a year ago, he was auctioning to buy jewlery, but i had seen him run around norrath porting people for free, so i gave him a bunch of free jewelry.

I have spent a considerable amount of time PLing random people i don't know in this game just for the fun of meeting and talking with new players.

Erock strikes me as that type of guy, and infact i bet you he was pling them just for fun.


or maybe erock has an azrael buddy in sauve, does that make all sauve equal game? All this flawed logic and making up reasons and justifications to attack new people to the game is pretty disgusting.

[Eslade]

Terp <Holocaust> wizard (flying main guild tag proudly, aint trying to be no sneak scum):
http://r99pvp.com/showplayer.php?p=Pyrokinetic&ks=1

Mesrine (dunno who):
http://r99pvp.com/showplayer.php?p=Mesrine&ks=5

Bakingsoda (Redd <Azrael>):
http://r99pvp.com/showplayer.php?p=Bakingsoda&ks=6


Keep stretchin n reachin

http://www.tshirtgalleries.com/wp-content/uploads/rippin-and-tearin-tshirt.jpg

[dontbanpls]

Actually i think that you trying to come back to the community and stir shit up for your own amusement is pretty disgusting and bad for the server. <Suave> is a way for Exed to whisper to impressionable people and feed them to the <Azrael> black hole. That's all there is too it really. People aren't on board because they want to see the server go in a better direction, and don't believe that <Azrael> is willing to change it's spots.

[Fame]

Lessons learned here, I did this shit with waay more class than these scrubs.

friendly wizard, porting for clarity

[Agatha]

Actually i think that you trying to come back to the community and stir shit up for your own amusement is pretty disgusting and bad for the server. <Suave> is a way for Exed to whisper to impressionable people and feed them to the <Azrael> black hole. That's all there is too it really. People aren't on board because they want to see the server go in a better direction, and don't believe that <Azrael> is willing to change it's spots.

i don't think you are allowed to tell me what i can and can't do and also i have tried multiple times to make this server better on a grand scale, more than you can say. I'm sure you are in the zerg guild collecting welfare pixels.

[Nirgon]

In fact, don't take my word for it

Try asking in game who is the worst CoM griefer they encountered. I didn't say most dangerous, but one who truly griefs the most.

[Agatha]

In fact, don't take my word for it

Try asking in game who is the worst CoM griefer they encountered. I didn't say most dangerous, but one who truly griefs the most.

nirgon :(

what's the saying? not even once?

[Nirgon]

I'm pretty sure you tried Agatha, please list the ways I am forgetting.

Then tell us why Holo has nothing to do with increased server pop again when we're handing out epics like fuckin candy and running off scum known to do everything in their power to prevent people from getting on their feet

[Terpuntine]

Introducing <Suave> the newest PVP oriented, lower tier, raiding guild. Is your body ready?


PvP guild can't handle getting killed once then left alone to continue exping.


http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m80hhmME7V1rvyejmo4_250.gif

[Smedy]

taking credit for pop increase when it happened simultaneously with xp boost and nizzar death is ridiculous nirgon, lets all appreciate where appreciate is due, thank you gm's for letting us have global ooc + yellow text and decently fast xp, without the duke and his henchmen running around in full vp griefing me at lvl 52 as i try to fear kite (the henchmen of which are mostly in holocaust now of course, behaving slightly better under new supervision)

[Nirgon]

Ok Smedy

Let's make a wager


Holo will go as hard as possible on every person on the server untagged


Pop stays the same? Goes up? Goes down? Whatcha think?

[Nirgon]

If Holo and Fresh didn't have their doors open and run off the scum? This place was fucked no question about it

[Mac Drettj]

Azrael members were the only OTHER people on server when it was down to sub 30 during classic

if that means anything

[Buhbuh]

Unfortunately you're Swedish so I just saw a gif of a turd on the last post.

No one listens to you. You are never correct about anything.

The rustle is real

[Mac Drettj]

smedy using a nizzar gif and relinking his videos from 8 years ago

guys a loser living in the past

move on

[Guido]

taking credit for pop increase when it happened simultaneously with xp boost and nizzar death is ridiculous nirgon, lets all appreciate where appreciate is due, thank you gm's for letting us have global ooc + yellow text and decently fast xp, without the duke and his henchmen running around in full vp griefing me at lvl 52 as i try to fear kite (the henchmen of which are mostly in holocaust now of course, behaving slightly better under new supervision)

pretty spot on

pras smedyspielberg

[Pikrib]

Pop went up as soon as Nizzar was gone. Pop started going up before Holo started its crootin campaign. I posted graphs. Believe what you want.

[Mac Drettj]

Pop went up as soon as Nizzar was gone. Pop started going up before Holo started its crootin campaign. I posted graphs. Believe what you want.

that was a false spike because it was just Azrael's 50 members coming out the wood work for free mob

they all vanished the following day and then crooting happened

[Agatha]

god holo so toxic they want to take credit for every good thing that has happend. they try to put out this good guy mentality yet guild leader delevels his epic wizard to 55 and starts shooting new players in COM.

[Terpuntine]

god holo so toxic they want to take credit for every good thing that has happend. they try to put out this good guy mentality yet guild leader delevels his epic wizard to 55 and starts shooting new players in COM.

Don't worry I will be adding everywhere else in as well.

[Agatha]

Don't worry I will be adding everywhere else in as well.

god terp u aint nothing pal, id smash you 1v1. we can knuckle up any time any place.

[Pikrib]

that was a false spike because it was just Azrael's 50 members coming out the wood work for free mob

they all vanished the following day and then crooting happened

We only had 15 members come out of unretirement.

Unretirement=A place where people go when losing. Usually logging onto a lower lvl alt gank twink.

[Nirgon]

I listed Fresh too

And its not what we've done so much as what we've prevented the other 2 previous guilds of pure toxic waste from doing

Server was like 50-60 pop maybe while Azrael and Nihilum were the 2 guilds

You said to Nihilum, hey guys why don't you just fuck over Nizzar and make your own guild? They did.

Then it became obvious Azrael had goals of beating down everyone else on the server and running some small elite team and closing recruitment entirely / only farming the stuff they felt like

Did you ever think one of the reasons Nizzar never got taken down otherwise might have had something to do with the #2 guild also being a complete piece of shit? Do you remember the tug of war Nihilum and Azrael had with Red Dawn? Not letting them just be their own entity that didn't wish to be at total war with Nihilum or Azrael?

Yeah man can't let them do that, they're either with you or against you and if they're against you, they gotta be run completely off the box.

Meanwhile Holocaust OPENLY recruits nearly brand new lvl 50+s and gets them their epic within 2-3 months NO PROBLEM, no money to the guild bank required

We got reports of Fresh doing Draco, or raiding Hate or Fear. Yeah we could have gone and stomped on them, camped their corpses, bragged about how good we were... but we're better than that and want to see the community improve.

If you don't think Holo could have started destroying the population after we got on top or right now? Think again. We CHOOSE not to. We don't need that ego boost that we run everyone off the server that isn't us.

Deal with it.

[Kergan]

KNUCKLE UP SON

[Terpuntine]

god terp u aint nothing pal, id smash you 1v1. we can knuckle up any time any place.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTcDfuwLT-5FD6idl0t75uHSvigaTVOjbyhVbseFjNGm5BN74nN

[Colgate]

taking credit for pop increase when it happened simultaneously with xp boost and nizzar death is ridiculous nirgon, lets all appreciate where appreciate is due, thank you gm's for letting us have global ooc + yellow text and decently fast xp, without the duke and his henchmen running around in full vp griefing me at lvl 52 as i try to fear kite (the henchmen of which are mostly in holocaust now of course, behaving slightly better under new supervision)

wasn't there a video about you guys killing twainz because he was stopping you from exping

which guild is he in again?

which guild was also bragging about tune playing with them recently?

huh

odd

[Pikrib]

Yeah man can't let them do that, they're either with you or against you and if they're against you, they gotta be run completely off the box.



Technically you guys are trying to run Azrael off the box also..

[Nirgon]

Wondering if Smedy will disagree with the fact that we could start destroying the population (like Azrael / Nihilum did) right now

It wouldn't make us "bad ass" or "red", it would just be really fucking stupid and unfortunate

[Kergan]

That is ok though.

[Nirgon]

Technically you guys are trying to run Azrael off the box also..

Along with the duke if he returns yes.

Then again, we're taking in Azrael members that aren't pure toxic waste.

It's more than we're trying to run certain Azrael off the box... just like certain Nihilum.

Catch my drift?

[mr.miketastic]

Out the griefer's mains. That's how you can prove who is for or against server health. What guild has the largest number of twink PK's? Either out their mains or we can assume who's behind driving the new blood off. We know Fresh is trying to make a good attempt at welcoming newbs.

[Kergan]

This is going to get pretty cool and interesting when the Duke returns in Velious. (confirmed)

[Pikrib]

Along with the duke if he returns yes.

Then again, we're taking in Azrael members that aren't pure toxic waste.

It's more than we're trying to run certain Azrael off the box... just like certain Nihilum.

Catch my drift?

If you have to become the thing you hate to win is that technically winning?

[Nirgon]

I do not hate anything that we've become

Pop is on the rise

New players are welcomed, not stomped out in some vain display of elitism

[Ragnaros]

This is going to get pretty cool and interesting when the Duke returns in Velious. (confirmed)

Are you referring to Nizz?

[Stasis01]

End game is still cockblocked but you won't take a dick up the ass starting a guild like Nizzar/Tune and crew did.

Meh, baby steps - Azrael currently is the worst thing for any new guild that starts up because they're mostly BIS and only active in "group" pvp which is really just a grp of max geared toons ass raping easy targets and that's what they focus on.

[Eslade]

I do not hate anything that we've become

Pop is on the rise

New players are welcomed, not stomped out in some vain display of elitism as long as they are allied to holocaust.

ftfy.

[Nirgon]

Not Azrael affiliated yes

You can twist what I say all you want

If you've been helped out by me in game as a new player you know what the deal is

[Eslade]

Not Azrael affiliated yes

You can twist what I say all you want

If you've been helped out by me in game as a new player you know what the deal is

if you're not holocaust affiliated, you get branded as azrael affiliated. I've seen it happen plenty of times already and to act like you guys are the only ones helping new players is laughable.

[Pikrib]

I didn't start playing EMU's untill project99. Has there ever been another EQ PvP EMU with a higher sustained population than R99?

[vouss]

I think all of Nirgons posts in this thread are laughable, he's gone buhbuh status with his levels of delusion

Nirgon still brings up the fact I kill players who are level 60 with epics and trak BP's that happen to be fairly new to the server, can only imagine what he would have to say if I deleved and started killing people in rags

[Nirgon]

Okay so if we went hard as fuck on everyone that didn't have a Holo tag, the server population would be fine and continue to rise?

Give me a break

[Nirgon]

About as delusional as rolling around with 15 perfectly stacked raid buffs all the time acting like its all 1v1 self buffed skill.

[Buhbuh]

The population hovered at 190 when Nizzar got booted. It stayed there.

When Nirgon, Colgate, Swish and I started really pushing Red on the Blue server forums, the population burgeoned. We didn't troll their threads. We actually elucidated reasons for why Red is better and how now (after Nizzar's ban) was the best time to roll there. I have countless PM's from doing that, from people who are now in our guild.

It's not like all these blue players came over without persuasion. We have been actively pressing an exodus from blue for 3 months.

They had a thread over there that went to like 70 pages in one day about raid rotations and the inequality of the current system. I'm all over that thread, arguing point by point why abandoning Blue for Red is a better idea than arguing over nonsense that is solved by PvP on this server.

We went hard as fuck over there, to the point that Derubael made his own thread and locked all the other ones. We have a fuck load of new players due to our efforts, and in a large part because Derubael put his stamp on it after he saw we weren't stopping.

There's a tiny percent of you who even saw this happening.

Couple that with the fact that we're far more transparent and fair than any raiding guild before or since, and you've got a winning strategy for population gain.

To say we had nothing to do with the current server population is, quite frankly, bullshit.

Literally 0 people from Azrael even thought (nor probably even wanted) to go over there and argue the merits of Red.

i.e. eat shit, you have no clue why the population is what it us.

[Nirgon]

How about instead of all the people we got epics for we followed them from zone to zone killing them and telling them to go back to blue?

That's like 40-50 pop decline? Go from there?

[Kimm Bare|y]

https://hsimpact.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/spock_logic.jpg

[Pikrib]

I applaud your efforts Bub. Keep up the good work. HB used to do the same shit and our pop went up then also.

[Agatha]

this the first time i ever seen nirgon rustled. pras. cut thread, 17 pages, my work is done.

[Nirgon]

I'm not rustled.

Glad this was all just a joke all along 8]


Cuz that's what it was to me

[Slathar]

nilbog has stated that population doesnt matter to him and the project would move foreward regardless


bring back 8 level range, trak teeth, exp loss on pvp death and get rid of lns.

[Mac Drettj]

ive never stopped trolling blue threads

glad to know im a constant and not a variable

ur welcome for server growth

[vouss]

cool, maybe one more triple post though?

[Eslade]

http://i.imgur.com/029GkP5.jpg

[Nirgon]

Maybe

Feel like getting your bullshit attempt to slander Holocaust's efforts and successes destroyed again?

[Pikrib]

cool, maybe one more triple post though?

I got a Sickpuppy triple post on page 7.


/bow

[vouss]

55 epic wizard killing players new to the server allied with level 30 epic'd warrior also killing players new to the server :)

[Eslade]

Maybe

Feel like getting your bullshit attempt to slander Holocaust's efforts and successes destroyed again?

the rise in pop can be correlated to almost anything...

[Nirgon]

:rolleyes:

You guys are hopelessly grasping.

Max has turned over a leaf, why can't you?

Enjoy your little toxic scum guild that's barely on life support right now.

[Buhbuh]

Not really to the extent we've seen. 300+ nightly isn't a natural rise. It came from somewhere.

[Slathar]

:rolleyes:

You guys are hopelessly grasping.

Max has turned over a leaf, why can't you?

Enjoy your little toxic scum guild that's barely on life support right now.

FOR TEN MILLION YEARS

[Eslade]

Not really to the extent we've seen. 300+ nightly isn't a natural rise. It came from somewhere.

Yeah, has prices went down. my graph answers that.

[daasgoot]

another holo fungi twink killin noobs.


Killer Killer's Guild The Dead The Dead's Guild Zone Points Time
Jock Angry Wolves Macjavelins Fresh Castle Mistmoore 0.19 January 14 2015 10:19:41 PM
Jock Angry Wolves Serinn Fresh Castle Mistmoore 0.50 January 14 2015 4:45:40 AM
Jock Angry Wolves Webster Lesser Faydark 0.91 January 14 2015 4:18:07 AM
Jock Angry Wolves Kannayar Lesser Faydark 0.33 January 14 2015 4:13:02 AM
Jock Angry Wolves Flozilla Lavastorm Mountains 0.41 January 13 2015 3:35:48 AM
Jock Angry Wolves Veltar Lesser Faydark 0.48 January 12 2015 8:48:55 PM
Jock Angry Wolves Greensky Lesser Faydark 0.41 January 12 2015 8:17:19 PM
Jock Angry Wolves Firman Lesser Faydark 0.36 January 11 2015 10:07:45 PM
Jock Angry Wolves Dwellin Castle Mistmoore 0.33 January 11 2015 10:06:11 PM
Jock Angry Wolves Rompee REDRUM Castle Mistmoore 0.44 January 11 2015 10:05:51 PM
Jock Angry Wolves Vegetables Lesser Faydark 0.51 January 11 2015 2:39:49 AM
Jock Angry Wolves Mcleod Lesser Faydark 0.25 January 11 2015 2:25:20 AM
Jock Angry Wolves Harmless Tepid Peppermint Wonderland Castle Mistmoore 0.48 January 11 2015 1:11:05 AM
Jock Angry Wolves Athenah Lesser Faydark 0.45 January 10 2015 4:34:17 PM
Jock Angry Wolves Apocalipps Guk 0.45 January 07 2015 8:08:57 PM
Jock Holocaust Powerslave Greater Faydark 0.36 January 07 2015 6:20:26 PM
Jock Holocaust Pinewood Greater Faydark 0.33 January 07 2015 3:10:04 PM
Jock Holocaust Badfish Greater Faydark 0.41 January 07 2015 2:42:42 PM
Jock Holocaust Ozzii Greater Faydark 0.45 January 07 2015 2:36:39 PM
Jock Holocaust Zerok Fresh Castle Mistmoore 0.45 January 07 2015 5:41:41 AM

[bouncerr 2.0]

lindros is nakor, usually killing new players in unrest

[bouncerr 2.0]

and mistmoore

[daasgoot]

Killer Killer's Guild The Dead The Dead's Guild Zone Points Time
Lindros Angry Wolves Xzenon Suave Castle Mistmoore 0.45 January 09 2015 11:19:43 PM
Lindros Angry Wolves Mugatuu Castle Mistmoore 0.38 January 05 2015 10:09:40 PM
Lindros Fresh Dinadruid Fresh Castle Mistmoore 0.00 January 04 2015 1:26:05 PM
Lindros Fresh Radigast Castle Mistmoore 0.50 January 04 2015 1:04:39 PM
Lindros Fresh Xildrakvor Lesser Faydark 1.39 December 27 2014 11:25:08 PM
Lindros Fresh Xildrakvor Castle Mistmoore 1.45 December 27 2014 10:29:54 PM
Lindros Angry Wolves Father Qeynos Catastrophe Lesser Faydark 0.00 December 24 2014 1:40:21 PM
Lindros Angry Wolves Father Qeynos Catastrophe Lesser Faydark 0.00 December 24 2014 1:39:19 PM
Lindros Angry Wolves Father Qeynos Catastrophe Castle Mistmoore 0.39 December 23 2014 5:37:58 PM
Lindros Angry Wolves Juzam Naked and Afraid Estate of Unrest 0.50 December 21 2014 10:11:23 PM
Lindros Angry Wolves Father Qeynos Catastrophe Estate of Unrest 0.49 December 21 2014 12:38:47 PM
Lindros Angry Wolves Powerslave Kithicor Woods 0.45 December 20 2014 5:54:23 PM
Lindros Angry Wolves Mcsquared REDRUM Estate of Unrest 0.50 December 15 2014 12:22:24 AM
Lindros Rope Lesser Faydark 0.50 December 13 2014 2:26:29 PM
Lindros Haylee Dagnor's Cauldron 0.60 December 10 2014 11:37:23 PM

[Mac Drettj]

bring back 8 level range, trak teeth, exp loss on pvp death and get rid of lns.

I agree

lvl range was shrunk to compensate for bad resists, clickies, and slow exp forcing people to be stuck at 52 getting pummeled

then clickies were nerfed and exp was incredibly boosted

time to widen the range again

Exp loss was also removed from PvP death because with 0 exp movement, a PvP death involved in negative gains, coupled with hybrid penalty and low pop, you can see how it was a no brainer. Exp and population are at a good spot. Add EXP loss again. There should be a risk reward that prevents people like ragnaros from being baddies and bindrushing with a reset duelist button and acrueing over 300 deaths.

time to add exp loss on PvP death

LNS has it's place, there just isnt any volunteer staff that arent completely fried on drugs or even available to be online. Contacting staff on red means typing /tell live.name or logging on a blue character and /petitioning. Too much animosity to have a community governed LNS.

[daasgoot]

Killer Killer's Guild The Dead The Dead's Guild Zone Points Time
Contract Angry Wolves Flozilla Lesser Faydark 0.36 January 14 2015 4:51:20 AM
Contract Angry Wolves Kannayar Lesser Faydark 0.29 January 14 2015 4:28:20 AM
Contract Angry Wolves Kannayar Lesser Faydark 0.03 January 14 2015 4:15:49 AM
Contract Angry Wolves Dinadruid Fresh Lesser Faydark 0.19 January 09 2015 6:19:15 PM
Contract Angry Wolves Kannayar Suave Castle Mistmoore 0.45 January 09 2015 1:29:41 PM
Contract Angry Wolves Depsizer Lesser Faydark 0.55 January 09 2015 11:11:41 AM
Contract Angry Wolves Kimi Castle Mistmoore 0.23 January 09 2015 9:13:56 AM
Contract Angry Wolves Guard Castle Mistmoore 0.30 January 07 2015 1:51:00 PM
Contract Angry Wolves Xzenon Cabal Lesser Faydark 0.05 January 06 2015 7:01:55 PM
Contract Angry Wolves Xzenon Cabal Lesser Faydark 0.50 January 06 2015 6:55:58 PM
Contract Angry Wolves Cofungus Fresh Castle Mistmoore 0.50 January 06 2015 3:27:07 PM
Contract Angry Wolves Nickem Castle Mistmoore 0.45 January 05 2015 5:16:47 PM
Contract Angry Wolves Madbro Castle Mistmoore 0.41 January 04 2015 3:45:59 PM
Contract Angry Wolves Swathe Lesser Faydark 0.36 January 03 2015 3:34:12 PM
Contract Angry Wolves Isoldar Fresh Lesser Faydark 0.45 January 03 2015 3:28:15 PM
Contract Angry Wolves Swathe Lesser Faydark 0.41 January 03 2015 3:20:16 PM
Contract Angry Wolves Rope Castle Mistmoore 0.30 January 03 2015 3:46:03 AM
Contract Angry Wolves Ghasti Castle Mistmoore 0.03 January 01 2015 6:02:39 PM
Contract Angry Wolves Ghasti Castle Mistmoore 0.29 January 01 2015 5:59:23 PM
Contract Angry Wolves Dinainyourmouth Castle Mistmoore 0.53 January 01 2015 5:58:58 PM

[daasgoot]

Killer Killer's Guild The Dead The Dead's Guild Zone Points Time
Vyral Holocaust Malki Prophets of Slosh Cabilis East 0.23 January 15 2015 1:43:19 AM
Vyral Holocaust Jahjah Nagafen's Lair 0.07 January 14 2015 4:25:37 AM
Vyral Holocaust Enhanced Suave Lavastorm Mountains 0.26 January 11 2015 4:08:10 PM
Vyral Holocaust Barrufo Domingueros de Norrath East Freeport 0.33 January 11 2015 5:30:55 AM
Vyral Holocaust Enhanced Suave Lavastorm Mountains 0.29 January 11 2015 2:16:46 AM
Vyral Angry Wolves Gumbee Fresh The City of Mist 0.50 January 04 2015 6:37:32 AM
Vyral Angry Wolves Here The Overthere 0.38 January 03 2015 4:03:03 PM
Vyral Angry Wolves Captpicard Fresh The Overthere 0.31 January 03 2015 4:00:29 PM
Vyral Angry Wolves Kickz The City of Mist 0.50 January 03 2015 1:55:37 PM
Vyral Angry Wolves Menawan Castle Mistmoore 0.32 January 02 2015 11:49:41 AM
Vyral Angry Wolves Spriggen Fresh Castle Mistmoore 0.33 January 01 2015 9:19:23 AM
Vyral Angry Wolves Mcsquared REDRUM Castle Mistmoore 0.26 December 31 2014 10:37:30 PM
Vyral Angry Wolves Gunks Fresh Castle Mistmoore 0.50 December 31 2014 10:37:08 PM
Vyral Angry Wolves Conjurer Castle Mistmoore 0.50 December 31 2014 10:36:38 PM
Vyral Angry Wolves Rope Lesser Faydark 0.40 December 31 2014 12:21:39 AM
Vyral Angry Wolves Notes REDRUM Lesser Faydark 0.37 December 30 2014 8:32:51 PM
Vyral Angry Wolves Malyss Castle Mistmoore 0.50 December 30 2014 8:30:19 PM
Vyral Angry Wolves Amplify Angry Wolves Castle Mistmoore 0.00 December 30 2014 7:02:02 PM
Vyral Alicesin Fresh Castle Mistmoore 0.44 December 29 2014 7:51:25 PM
Vyral Tsansir Gay Blades Dagnor's Cauldron 0.45 October 17 2014 10:49:27 AM
Vyral Ogreish Estate of Unrest 0.41 October 16 2014 2:55:39 PM
Vyral Futura Dagnor's Cauldron 0.41 October 15 2014 5:19:50 PM
Vyral Singerlee Estate of Unrest 0.50 October 14 2014 11:34:09 PM
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Vyral Futura Dagnor's Cauldron 0.45 October 14 2014 5:39:26 PM
Vyral Chikitilla Dagnor's Cauldron 0.36 October 14 2014 5:38:48 PM
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[Kergan]

Killer Killer's Guild The Dead The Dead's Guild Zone Points Time
Contract Angry Wolves Flozilla Lesser Faydark 0.36 January 14 2015 4:51:20 AM
Contract Angry Wolves Kannayar Lesser Faydark 0.29 January 14 2015 4:28:20 AM
Contract Angry Wolves Kannayar Lesser Faydark 0.03 January 14 2015 4:15:49 AM
Contract Angry Wolves Dinadruid Fresh Lesser Faydark 0.19 January 09 2015 6:19:15 PM
Contract Angry Wolves Kannayar Suave Castle Mistmoore 0.45 January 09 2015 1:29:41 PM
Contract Angry Wolves Depsizer Lesser Faydark 0.55 January 09 2015 11:11:41 AM
Contract Angry Wolves Kimi Castle Mistmoore 0.23 January 09 2015 9:13:56 AM
Contract Angry Wolves Guard Castle Mistmoore 0.30 January 07 2015 1:51:00 PM
Contract Angry Wolves Xzenon Cabal Lesser Faydark 0.05 January 06 2015 7:01:55 PM
Contract Angry Wolves Xzenon Cabal Lesser Faydark 0.50 January 06 2015 6:55:58 PM
Contract Angry Wolves Cofungus Fresh Castle Mistmoore 0.50 January 06 2015 3:27:07 PM
Contract Angry Wolves Nickem Castle Mistmoore 0.45 January 05 2015 5:16:47 PM
Contract Angry Wolves Madbro Castle Mistmoore 0.41 January 04 2015 3:45:59 PM
Contract Angry Wolves Swathe Lesser Faydark 0.36 January 03 2015 3:34:12 PM
Contract Angry Wolves Isoldar Fresh Lesser Faydark 0.45 January 03 2015 3:28:15 PM
Contract Angry Wolves Swathe Lesser Faydark 0.41 January 03 2015 3:20:16 PM
Contract Angry Wolves Rope Castle Mistmoore 0.30 January 03 2015 3:46:03 AM
Contract Angry Wolves Ghasti Castle Mistmoore 0.03 January 01 2015 6:02:39 PM
Contract Angry Wolves Ghasti Castle Mistmoore 0.29 January 01 2015 5:59:23 PM
Contract Angry Wolves Dinainyourmouth Castle Mistmoore 0.53 January 01 2015 5:58:58 PM

HOLY SHIT THAT GUY IS RAPING THE SERVER 1.5 KILLS PER DAY AT A TIME.

[Mac Drettj]

daasgoot incredibly rustled atm

[Eslade]

http://cdn.meme.li/instances/300x300/58119531.jpg

[Buhbuh]

Did you ever learn logic, Eslade? Or are you just throwing irrelevant words together into memes?

[daasgoot]

angry wolves is holo alt/feeder guild.

when they run around stomping noobs its teaching them pvp and its good for them and server population.

if azrael alt kills noob its bad for server scummy shit and they should be banned cuz pras holo server health.

laughable.


i actually agree with alot of what nirgon says, but the one issue i have always had with him is claiming white night protecting the noobs. everyone knows holo has twink alts PKing lowbies, and it is pure propaganda to pin all low lvl twink alt pk's on AZ.

[Eslade]

Did you ever learn logic, Eslade? Or are you just throwing irrelevant words together into memes?

little from column a little from column b

[Nirgon]

We're bringing more targets to pvp to the server, this is a terrible thing.

As far as pvp alts, I know Bakingsoda is Redd now. I'm not sure who the rest are.

If it gets bad enough, I'm glad to investigate.

I am still grappling with the fact that you think us helping people instead of griefing them and telling them to go back to blue ... nvm.

Plain and simple, Fresh and Holo are model guilds.

Azrael is a remnant of the toxic past for new players to look upon with pity.

[daasgoot]

We're bringing more targets to pvp to the server, this is a terrible thing.

As far as pvp alts, I know Bakingsoda is Redd now. I'm not sure who the rest are.

If it gets bad enough, I'm glad to investigate.

I am still grappling with the fact that you think us helping people instead of griefing them and telling them to go back to blue ... nvm.

Plain and simple, Fresh and Holo are model guilds.

Azrael is a remnant of the toxic past for new players to look upon with pity.

im not arguing that holo doesn't help people. im just saying holo has just as many if not more twinked alts that destroy noobs than AZ.

[Kergan]

daasgoot kind of a whiney bitch

[Cheesypoof]

daasgoot kind of a whiney bitch

Kergan kind of a Nizzar ball holder

[daasgoot]

Kergan kind of a Nizzar ball holder

does he hold them with his mouth to keep them warm?

not sure who kergan is, does he play here? or just another weirdo like rexx that trolls forums of elf sim he doesn't play?

[ExedOut]

I wouldnt personally de lvl a 60 epic wizard but I see nothing wrong with it. I do want more pop on this server but I dont want server to fall into a state of blueness to reach that goal. Its already 90% blue with holo having the majority of the server under one roof. Preparing for velious. Jesus christ were playing a 15 year old game for the PVP right? 20-30 man guilds is what this server can healthily hold. Lets try that for a bit and actually pvp? GTFO holocaust

[Guido]

I wouldnt personally de lvl a 60 epic wizard but I see nothing wrong with it. I do want more pop on this server but I dont want server to fall into a state of blueness to reach that goal. Its already 90% blue with holo having the majority of the server under one roof. Preparing for velious. Jesus christ were playing a 15 year old game for the PVP right? 20-30 man guilds is what this server can healthily hold. Lets try that for a bit and actually pvp? GTFO holocaust

az trying to keep the dream alive

holo is like a cancer - needs to be cured

nihilum was cured, help us cure this outbreak as well.

[Nirgon]

300 pop
40-45 Holo players on a raid target

~15% of pop is Holo during raid times

Try helping the other 85% to 60 and raiding stuff for them even if you don't need anything.

Again. More targets for the supposed invincible elite.

[LostCause]

lets say holo got disbanded would pop go up or down?

[ExedOut]

Is that a trick question? Wed definitely see how many closet blue faggots we have on this server. For fucks sake guys lets play this game for the PVP. can promise you if I found a game with better pvp and was open world like EQ id be there. Its sad to see what this box has become. RIP red99

[vouss]

What is Nirgon even going about? of course I love the increase of players that Holocaust is bringing, that's why I'm asking your guild to stop griefing fresh players in rags off the server with de-leveled epic'd toons?

[Nirgon]

I like how you guys went hard saying Bakingsoda was Gongshow

and Pikrib blew that shit up in your face NP

If anyone on this server is getting griefed by one of our members, please let the management @ Holo know

Good day of forumquest, hope you learned something

[karsten]

I would also posit that Tunak's cultivation of <Fresh> has helped retain the players who are here to check out the server. So, perhaps not recruit them in the first place, but certainly given them a (semi-normal, at least) environment to flourish.

[ExedOut]

Also I don't want a 300 pop box if the majority of them stand against what this server was meant for. KC pvp ? get that shit out of here. Where are the pvp fights over dragons? The pvp on a MASS scale? Oh wait there is none. If the server pop was 2k by all means zerg it the fuck up but you are taking away everything this server actually has to offer and concealing the fact you care not for pvp you just want your chars to look good while fapping one out on char select screen. change the server / break holo into 3 guilds / and lets fite.

[Nirgon]

So we'll break the 45 people at raid targets into teams of 15 and fight over it?

You smokin' mountain dews with Ragnaros again?

[mr.miketastic]

Forgive me if this seems a little idealistic, but, many of the people in rags are just trying to gear up to PVP more competitively. Why would it be fun to be facerolled by someone with gear that makes them near invincible to a full group in rags?
Seriously. I have shit gear, and I've pvp'ed and couldn't even touch the twink PK'er. That's not pvp. That's a high school wrestler body-slamming a 3rd grader. Not cool, not fun.

[mr.miketastic]

I like how you guys went hard saying Bakingsoda was Gongshow

and Pikrib blew that shit up in your face NP

If anyone on this server is getting griefed by one of our members, please let the management @ Holo know

Good day of forumquest, hope you learned something

That was me saying that. Don't blame anyone but me dude. I have been set straight privately, so let that shit go.

[ExedOut]

So we'll break the 45 people at raid targets into teams of 15 and fight over it?

You smokin' mountain dews with Ragnaros again?

dont sugarcoat numbers nirgon. You act as if a fucking 15 yr old raid boss just isnt allowed to stay up for more than 30 minutes. Its not the end of the world boss. Dont see how you guys have fun with no pvp. Why do you play this game? To down content youve done literally a thousand times before installing this game? Weve all been there, done that with pixels. PVP is what this server is about. Lets get a little more of it going?

[Nirgon]

Right now I'm playing to get the population up to 500+

I'll go from there

[Slathar]

god i cant wait to get home from the welfare office to grief the fuck out of people

[Buhbuh]

Who do you know that has left the server recently because of low level grief? Need logs.

That was part of the argument we made for red. You bypass that level range in an hour in MM or UR. Solution to CoM? Don't exp there.

This issue was an issue at one time, but most people use logic to bypass what you're all calling grief.

It doesn't take a lot of skill, but there isn't bind camping going on. No one is enforcing LnS in CoM. Terp gets bored of it in like 10 mins and logs.

People aren't deterred for taking deaths. They're tenacious because Blue sucks dick.

[Mudslinger]

it amazes me how you can bash azrael for killing newbs, yet your own guild leader is deleveled his epic wizard to kill people leveling in com.


god. azrael and holo are perfect for eachother. you guys deserve eachother. so much.

@ 51 + your past the newb stage and should expect pvp slaughtering folks in com is not toxic this is a pvp server

From the way you make it sound the only time pvp is ok would be if you made sure your gear sucked as bad as the person you are about to kill

That is just stupid

Besides didnt you leave p99 and gave away your accounts ?

[Mudslinger]

Besides the person griefing the most true newbs off the server is citizens alt survival

[Agatha]

Besides didnt you leave p99 and gave away your accounts ?


and? does that mean i can't point out the bs holo spouts? rofl.

[Mudslinger]

Gj ignoring the meat of my comment

[Agatha]

if you really think just because you got 51+ make u not a newb, you got alot to learn lol.

[Mudslinger]

Heh meens your over the cusp and should have a hard enough skin to handle a few pvp deaths wthout crying

I understand you might have never gotten to the point of not crying whoa is me and whining everytime someone hurts your feelings but most people develop past that point ...... just realized this server is full of people with your problem

[Mudslinger]

Keep crying on the forums plz your tears are tasty

[Nirgon]

and? does that mean i can't point out the bs holo spouts? rofl.

oh this hurts coming from you

[HippoNipple]

Level 50+ is a different game on a PvP server and people from blue will just need to get used to it. It doesn't matter if a level 55 wizard has an epic or not, those players would have died to someone in cloth too. The spells from OT vendor would have done just as much damage.

These players are lucky they got a free pass from people like Gloinz/Chewie when leveling up and are just now having to deal with it. Complaining about a caster twink at level 55 makes no sense.

If you are getting corpse camped or not being allowed to LnS that is a different story.

Having geared players at different level ranges is fun. If you are on year 3 what else do you do? Might as well have level 50, 55, 60 and maybe a 30 to PvP with. As long as you aren't actually griefing people it is just PvP.

[Buhbuh]

People learn to contextualize and make comparisons to the blue experience when they come here. And guess what? There's player retention.

Don't be upset you're not a part of something, Agatha. You always lash out when you're not.

Fresh, Holocaust and Derubael are the 3 biggest reasons there's an increase in population, and there's really no other way to look at it. These people aren't just finding out about us - they're from Blue, and they've been persuaded/ told by other friends word of mouth because of good experiences.

It's not like we suddenly have more of a population than ever before because people took a natural interest. They got lobbied.

Learn to define grief in a better way. Killing someone and letting them be on their merry way isn't grief. It may not take skill, but it isn't grief.

[Kimm Bare|y]

23 pages of

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[Agatha]

23 pages of

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(5:52:50 PM) Zeef Queefari: o man my thread up to 23 pages
(5:53:09 PM) Zeef Queefari: i been away from forum quest so long but first post i make its already lvl 23 thread

[Kimm Bare|y]

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[Biaxil]

I agree

lvl range was shrunk to compensate for bad resists, clickies, and slow exp forcing people to be stuck at 52 getting pummeled

then clickies were nerfed and exp was incredibly boosted

time to widen the range again

Exp loss was also removed from PvP death because with 0 exp movement, a PvP death involved in negative gains, coupled with hybrid penalty and low pop, you can see how it was a no brainer. Exp and population are at a good spot. Add EXP loss again. There should be a risk reward that prevents people like ragnaros from being baddies and bindrushing with a reset duelist button and acrueing over 300 deaths.

time to add exp loss on PvP death

LNS has it's place, there just isnt any volunteer staff that arent completely fried on drugs or even available to be online. Contacting staff on red means typing /tell live.name or logging on a blue character and /petitioning. Too much animosity to have a community governed LNS.
Why, so you can have 8 levels to delevel someone into obscurity...

[Kergan]

does he hold them with his mouth to keep them warm?

not sure who kergan is, does he play here? or just another weirdo like rexx that trolls forums of elf sim he doesn't play?

Exactly what a whiney bitch would say.

[Kergan]

Kergan kind of a Nizzar ball holder

It amuses me that Nizzar still haunts you. The spirit of the Duke will live on forever.

[Ragnaros]

there is literally no difference between holocaust and nihilum except for the fact that holocaust does a poor job of trying to be nihilum and are mediocre players ...the population was already rising before nihilum got gm disbanded

[Fame]

Agatha cares about red99, would gladly take 10 more just like him

[Tassador]

Agatha cares about red99, would gladly take 10 more just like him

That would increase pop by 60+ toons

[Mudslinger]

That would increase pop by 60+ toons

Lol sad but true

[Not_Kazowi]

sever full of mentally ill man children

[Eslade]

sever full of mentally ill man children

[Dorevai]

Forgive me if this seems a little idealistic, but, many of the people in rags are just trying to gear up to PVP more competitively. Why would it be fun to be facerolled by someone with gear that makes them near invincible to a full group in rags?
Seriously. I have shit gear, and I've pvp'ed and couldn't even touch the twink PK'er. That's not pvp. That's a high school wrestler body-slamming a 3rd grader. Not cool, not fun.

That's my only issue with the twinks - the asymmetry of their power is ridiculous. So many times leveling up recently (i started like a week ago), my group, some times a full group, would be attacked by some guy that all of us couldn't get below 96% while they took us out with blazing speed. There were plenty of noobs in my groups, only a few moderate twinks (crafted/bronze) when they were present.

I played on SZ, and I can see the value of PvP to solve problems between players and provide entertainment, but that was discouraging. I've been adding groupmates to my friends list on a regular basis, usually other guys in total scrub gear, and maybe 2 of 10 people I've friended are still logging on regularly. I'd really like to actually have my group fight another group for a camp. That doesn't happen b/c groups are spaced so far apart due to low pop and that these events always involve the aggressor bringing in a ringer (or being the ringer in the first place) to guarantee victory for the lulz, not access to the mobs.

I have yet to have a single group vs. group fight that didn't involve someone dramatically more powerful than my entire group being on the other side. All it has taught me is that there aren't good fights for new players.

[Schnarf]

even if holo was disbanded the mindless shitbags would amass into another zerg guild

[Uuruk]

last time a epic + geared 60 deleveled to grief in com was brobb and he was banned within 2 days.....

boomwiz AKA Hammertime was also banned for a week for doing this but cried enough to get his butthurt faced wizard back.
I've never been banned. And I have no fucking clue who hammer time is

[Doors]

Just a quick reminder, ragnaros never played here until Nihilum was disbanded and literally knows nothing about what the box was like prior to their disbanding.

[LostCause]

pretty much like all the holo members from classic era that suddenly came back and all the bluebies that joined holo lol...

[Kimm Bare|y]

lol worthy thread coming from a player who if not dox'd in game will act toxic and trash talk even "friends"

[Bodybagger]

Forgive me if this seems a little idealistic, but, many of the people in rags are just trying to gear up to PVP more competitively. Why would it be fun to be facerolled by someone with gear that makes them near invincible to a full group in rags?
Seriously. I have shit gear, and I've pvp'ed and couldn't even touch the twink PK'er. That's not pvp. That's a high school wrestler body-slamming a 3rd grader. Not cool, not fun.

I charged my rags 25 SK straight into unrest last night to head on collide with a fungi ragebringer rogue who was whipping out full groups and made him zone out at 40-50% 4 times before logging for the night. He killed one clothy in our group while I was present, sadly I had to log for rest since I work, obviously you can guess the griefer had no such agenda and carried on to slay everyone eventually... I know you get almost exponentially more powerful beyond 50 and also end game VP BiS gear is beastmode but I have a very hard time believing a group willing to PVP back couldn't dissuade someone all the same...

I honestly feel the unwillingness to engage in PVP is what ruins the server. Why people complain about bluebies and go back to blue. I don't like the griefers any more than anyone else in rags but I will rally and fight them and run them off. If Bakingsoda hadn't engaged us mid fight, with a massive train in tow and caused all the chaos he did, and anyone else in group had been able to assist, my mage would've dropped him. He was eating nukes left and right til I XP died.

It isn't cool at all, but it is just as lame that it happens because people come here who don't want to fight other players, and it shows. If you don't want to kill other players roll a healer and shut the hell up and heal me while I fight, don't roll a dps class or tank and sit idly by while a griefer clears the zone of players.

[Milton]

dat young forum quest, I dig

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