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Biaxil
01-09-2015, 06:47 PM
Granted, I am in fresh, but seeing everyone in either fresh or holo is getting old quick. Some of the smaller guilds, I wonder, if they are mains, of just old vets alts, that have mails in az or Holo. 4 or 5 balanced guilds would be so much more fun.

vouss
01-09-2015, 06:49 PM
just join holo dawg

daasgoot
01-09-2015, 06:49 PM
its not just 2 huge guilds.. its 2 huge guilds that raid together...

lol.. what a joke.

dontbanpls
01-09-2015, 06:54 PM
Would be great if another legitimate option opened up, but it seems most of the veteran players are sheep, and only willing to create feeder guilds to support their main guild.

Would be even better if people stopped complaining about more people playing on the server and made the effort to make it what they wanted it to be.

HippoNipple
01-09-2015, 07:00 PM
Once Azrael members start joining Fresh to take orders from Max it might get more interesting.

Biaxil
01-09-2015, 07:00 PM
They are complaining about more people????? That's the dumbest shit I've ever heard. This server could use another thousand people. Would be nuts. When I played on v zek, it got 3300. 300 is still nothing.

Amplitude
01-09-2015, 07:05 PM
OP just wants two more large cocks

he made a typo

Recycled Children
01-09-2015, 08:14 PM
Make one.

bouncerr 2.0
01-09-2015, 08:22 PM
Suave is on the rise plan to be the 3rd biggest guild so we can have some fun on red for once. 15 players online only 2 days old. hit us up

red99
01-09-2015, 08:30 PM
there is only 1 big guild


150 active players between fresh and holo and they raid together


az has 35 active players


there is no other guilds

sealer
01-09-2015, 08:54 PM
Once Azrael members start joining Fresh to take orders from Max it might get more interesting.

This will never happen, never will any core Azael member will take orders from that retard
there is only 1 big guild


150 active players between fresh and holo and they raid together


az has 35 active players


there is no other guilds

AZ has 17 active players

red99
01-09-2015, 09:01 PM
we have 35, but so many different time zones, often 17 or so are online , this is true.

Colgate
01-09-2015, 09:03 PM
azrael very pathetic guild

Steel Warrior
01-09-2015, 09:09 PM
I raid with Holocaust every day. We've teamed up with Fresh on a couple of occasions, and some of our members have helped them out on other occasions. We still fight against each other in many situations, as evidenced by Jeremy's Red99 Leaderboard. We just don't shit on each other, but we pretty much all hate Azrael.

Pretending that Holocaust and Fresh routinely raid together is pure propaganda, just like most posts from Azrael.

bouncerr 2.0
01-09-2015, 09:12 PM
ya and saying suave etc are all azrael feeder guilds is bs too.

if you want the shit talking to stop maybe you should do it first.

sealer
01-09-2015, 09:44 PM
azrael very pathetic guild

No stable leadership is the problem, we have good players. We count on lite to everything and this is the problem

heartbrand
01-09-2015, 09:53 PM
the problem is you have one of the two main guilds essentially saying they aren't interested in being a real Everquest guild, so is it any wonder the vast majority of people join holocaust? Azrael is very similar to how founding fathers and holocaust were in classic. Smaller guilds who considered themselves too elite to recruit. So what happened? Everyone joined the guild who always had its doors open, which was nihilum. Don't cry about mass pvp not happening when you aren't willing to be massive to have it.

Colgate
01-09-2015, 09:54 PM
No stable leadership is the problem, we have good players. We count on lite to everything and this is the problem

you have like 3 or 4 good players, a bunch of worthless fairweather players,and then a bunch of active retards like yourself that are literally worthless

lite's horrible decision making skills are a big reason why you guys are so irrelevant, but it's not the only reason

Colgate
01-09-2015, 09:55 PM
all WORTHLESS

except like deluxee, salem, and powered

Lasher
01-09-2015, 10:01 PM
Ego's are the problem. Lite does not anyone else to run a guild he is in. He inhibits the possible growth of guilds he is in.

Other core members of azrael do not want to take orders or anything from anyone besides a select few.

If you want to be in a guild that can progres and compete need to check you Ego.

Also need to change your play style. The server is changing. The hardcore grief fest is a thing of the past.

sealer
01-09-2015, 10:27 PM
all WORTHLESS

except like deluxee, salem, and powered

If we are all worthless the. Why can't holo beat us with even numbers ? Need to call in fresh when numbers are not 4 to 1..

Lasher
01-09-2015, 10:48 PM
If we are all worthless the. Why can't holo beat us with even numbers ? Need to call in fresh when numbers are not 4 to 1..

Few reasons.

1) holo has a lot of members that want to play. If we have 33 and you guys bring 17. Should we tell the surplus to log off?

2) Fresh comes because they ask to help and we want to foster a good relationship with Fresh.

One question you should ask is " Why cant you field more numbers?" "Why are your recruiting efforts not producing the results one would expect?"

Even numbers is never going to happen. Im sure if we had 40 and you had 60 people who were ready to fight us you would bring 60.

Tameth
01-09-2015, 10:49 PM
sealers kid

Bazia
01-09-2015, 10:54 PM
azrael big problem is its like 8 players that arent interested in helping new players for the most part myself included

hand holding a horde of newbies to get pixels most of us dont need is not very interesting

the 10v50s are getting kinda old tho, prob gonna take a break until resist patch when hopefully i can get other players to stay in zone with me longer than 20 seconds

Bazia
01-09-2015, 10:57 PM
azrael big problem is its like 8 players that arent interested in helping new players for the most part myself included

i guess if you even consider not contesting pixels a problem, i personally dont care i have the stuff i need to pvp until velious

Tameth
01-09-2015, 11:01 PM
love the gif tameth

thank you.

yours are always...






kinda fucking wierd tho. just saying.

daasgoot
01-09-2015, 11:04 PM
i guess if you even consider not contesting pixels a problem, i personally dont care i have the stuff i need to pvp until velious

i don't even have legging equipped..

some of us don't really give a shit about pixels.

i log in and look for pvp, if i can't find it i log out.

EQ pve so fukin boring.. idk how people consider logging in and kill mindless creatures that you have killed sooo many times before entertaining.. at all.

we all different tho

dontbanpls
01-09-2015, 11:06 PM
too bad you didn't tell yourself that you hated pve while you leveled up.

daasgoot
01-09-2015, 11:13 PM
too bad you didn't tell yourself that you hated pve while you leveled up.

huh?

i think its somewhat entertaining to level a class you haven't played, but still very monotonous and gets very boring.

HippoNipple
01-09-2015, 11:16 PM
i don't even have legging equipped..

some of us don't really give a shit about pixels.

i log in and look for pvp, if i can't find it i log out.

EQ pve so fukin boring.. idk how people consider logging in and kill mindless creatures that you have killed sooo many times before entertaining.. at all.

we all different tho

You are the only person in Azrael with this mentality. The rest of your guild loves those pixels.

Bazia
01-09-2015, 11:17 PM
who is hipponipple

HippoNipple
01-09-2015, 11:23 PM
I play heartbreak now, used to play hipponipple.

Biaxil
01-09-2015, 11:30 PM
Thread derailed into typical AZ vs Holo, bash.

Pikrib
01-10-2015, 12:16 AM
Ego's are the problem. Lite does not anyone else to run a guild he is in. He inhibits the possible growth of guilds he is in.

Other core members of azrael do not want to take orders or anything from anyone besides a select few.

If you want to be in a guild that can progres and compete need to check you Ego.

Also need to change your play style. The server is changing. The hardcore grief fest is a thing of the past.

Trainer

Lasher
01-10-2015, 01:14 AM
Trainer

?

Colgate
01-10-2015, 01:17 AM
?

there was a stream recording of when like 8 azrael tried to rain our trakanon raid at juggs

you logged in on top of them, ran down into the shrooms to suicide

then they stood there for like 2 minutes and aggro'd the mobs as they pathed back while they massively fucked up the rain attempt

they were screaming in teamspeak "WHAT THE FUCK DUDE VANCO TRAINED ME" as you could hear their voices quiver on the verge of tears

Lasher
01-10-2015, 01:27 AM
Ah ya. They followed me from zone out area

Lasher
01-10-2015, 01:28 AM
Link stream

LronTheServerLegend
01-10-2015, 03:16 AM
If I made a guild it would be #1 in 4 months.

Colgate
01-10-2015, 03:43 AM
was this before or after you couldn't figure out how to pull Royals and wiped with 22 people uncontested Colgate?

r u upset that we got vibrating gauntlets and you logged off after getting raped 5v7?

Bazia
01-10-2015, 03:44 AM
who cares

Colgate
01-10-2015, 03:47 AM
i do

duh

Doors
01-10-2015, 03:57 AM
Grats us on vibrating gauntlets #justgirlythings

heartbrand
01-10-2015, 05:36 AM
azrael big problem is its like 8 players that arent interested in helping new players for the most part myself included

hand holding a horde of newbies to get pixels most of us dont need is not very interesting

the 10v50s are getting kinda old tho, prob gonna take a break until resist patch when hopefully i can get other players to stay in zone with me longer than 20 seconds

Pretty much azrael in a nutshell. Supposed hardcore as fuck pvpers who all burn out because no one else in their guild wants to play Everquest. See u on redxxxxxx.com.

Bazia
01-10-2015, 09:02 AM
problem is no one in the enemy guild wants to play everquest actually unless they are with 50 others

LostCause
01-10-2015, 01:26 PM
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ld9p8scl0D1qa9yvvo1_400.gif

Steel Warrior
01-10-2015, 07:13 PM
problem is no one in the enemy guild wants to play everquest actually unless they are with 50 others

You talk a big game, but every time I see you fighting, it's with bigger numbers or else you plug. Today we had a pretty even fight at KC, and you called in four wizards, two mages, a shaman and a cleric to help you.

Your whole guild claims to not care about pixels, and then they farm Sebilis all day every day.

Keep talking.

Colgate
01-10-2015, 07:35 PM
kecleon cries about fighting against massive numbers but we raped that azrael group 5v7 last night, kecleon plugged at 100% hp after i clicked pumice on him 2 times

daasgoot
01-10-2015, 08:16 PM
You talk a big game, but every time I see you fighting, it's with bigger numbers or else you plug. Today we had a pretty even fight at KC, and you called in four wizards, two mages, a shaman and a cleric to help you.

Your whole guild claims to not care about pixels, and then they farm Sebilis all day every day.

Keep talking.

who gave you permission to speak directly to kec?

dafuq

daasgoot
01-10-2015, 08:17 PM
kecleon cries about fighting against massive numbers but we raped that azrael group 5v7 last night, kecleon plugged at 100% hp after i clicked pumice on him 2 times

got prof?

quido
01-10-2015, 08:19 PM
got prof?

Witnessed it, can attest to the veracity of Colgate's claim.

DISPROVE IT

daasgoot
01-10-2015, 08:20 PM
Witnessed it, can attest to the veracity of Colgate's claim.

DISPROVE IT

my disproof is no proof, ur proof cant be my lack of disproof

bastard.

Drakaris
01-10-2015, 08:23 PM
I raid with Holocaust every day. We've teamed up with Fresh on a couple of occasions, and some of our members have helped them out on other occasions. We still fight against each other in many situations, as evidenced by Jeremy's Red99 Leaderboard. We just don't shit on each other, but we pretty much all hate Azrael.

Pretending that Holocaust and Fresh routinely raid together is pure propaganda, just like most posts from Azrael.

I think this sums things up quite nicely...

LostCause
01-10-2015, 08:41 PM
http://25.media.tumblr.com/58854ff6c22a3330b6f62a1493825ecf/tumblr_mflu1rERhC1qb4p3ko1_500.gif

Bazia
01-10-2015, 08:51 PM
i have never plugged

daasgoot
01-10-2015, 08:51 PM
holo and fresh raid together when azrael contests.

when azrael doesn't contest, holo tells fresh to recruit and contest.




fresh's leader hates azrael, and trains his blubies to hate them too..

atleast 75% of holo players only hate azrael because of the shit they hear from their leaders..

this is all just a few guys with a grudge, and a bunch of retards throwing rocks for them.

karsten
01-10-2015, 09:11 PM
well that's of course primarily not true, secondarily super misinformed, and tertiarily short-sighted

i could fill in the blanks but would rather lol @ u

Steel Warrior
01-10-2015, 09:13 PM
holo and fresh raid together when azrael contests.

when azrael doesn't contest, holo tells fresh to recruit and contest.




fresh's leader hates azrael, and trains his blubies to hate them too..

atleast 75% of holo players only hate azrael because of the shit they hear from their leaders..

this is all just a few guys with a grudge, and a bunch of retards throwing rocks for them.

Yes, I said that we've teamed up with Fresh a couple of times. Glad we agree.

Drakaris
01-10-2015, 09:40 PM
holo and fresh raid together when azrael contests.

when azrael doesn't contest, holo tells fresh to recruit and contest.




fresh's leader hates azrael, and trains his blubies to hate them too..

atleast 75% of holo players only hate azrael because of the shit they hear from their leaders..

this is all just a few guys with a grudge, and a bunch of retards throwing rocks for them.

not quite true actually... I talk to ex-RD / Hokuten members and they unanimously have disdain for Azrael as a guild and some of the key players in it...

The server is healthy right now, PVP happens just like it did with classic and reputation is starting to matter... We are heading in the right direction...

Bazia
01-10-2015, 09:54 PM
as a long time nihilum member im sure you feel like 80-90% of the level 60 pop being in one guild is the right direction

Steel Warrior
01-10-2015, 09:58 PM
Do you know this word hyperbole? That's what it's called when you make up ridiculous numbers for effect and no one believes a single word.

Steel Warrior
01-10-2015, 10:00 PM
Incidentally, I hate Azrael because they are assholes, not because someone told me not to like them. I almost didn't join Holocaust because Exed and Ragnaros were such assholes. Thankfully, they decided to go hangout with the other assholes and stink together.

Buhbuh
01-10-2015, 10:35 PM
If you guys are going to make a new guild, I'd start soon.

We've made it painstakingly clear that if you fall under the Azrael banner or align yourselves with people of that ilk, you'll be crushed at every turn.

It's been two weeks and Azrael is quelling their boredom with alts.

It was like a week ago that they were full of that same bravado from years past, and as usual, with one loss, they're deflating rapidly.

I hope that Kecleon and everyone else's boredom and hatred for the current server dynamic is sincere. I really would love it if you all quit. That was the point all along, as I stated numerous times. No one wants you here. It brings me joy to see you so upset and discontented.

You think your poorly formed criticisms bother us? We planned it this way. Kick fucking rocks, baby.

Your time is done. Nobody likes you. Your guild sucks dick. Your leader is awful.

#newserverculture

Bazia
01-10-2015, 10:36 PM
alts?

17 holo kills just today

Buhbuh
01-10-2015, 10:38 PM
If you guys are going to make a new guild, I'd start soon.

We've made it painstakingly clear that if you fall under the Azrael banner or align yourselves with people of that ilk, you'll be crushed at every turn.

It's been two weeks and Azrael is quelling their boredom with alts.

It was like a week ago that they were full of that same bravado from years past, and as usual, with one loss, they're deflating rapidly.

I hope that Kecleon and everyone else's boredom and hatred for the current server dynamic is sincere. I really would love it if you all quit. That was the point all along, as I stated numerous times. No one wants you here. It brings me joy to see you so upset and discontented.

You think your poorly formed criticisms bother us? We planned it this way. Kick fucking rocks, baby.

Your time is done. Nobody likes you. Your guild sucks dick. Your leader is awful.

#newserverculture

Bazia
01-10-2015, 10:38 PM
Make it 19 actually scarface and rompar died while i typed last post

Slathar
01-10-2015, 10:39 PM
wants higher population



wishes an entire guild quits


NEXT

Colgate
01-10-2015, 10:39 PM
i would hate to be a near best in slot level 60 that's barely worth more points than a level 10 newbie in crushbone wearing literally nothing

Bazia
01-10-2015, 10:41 PM
idk ask dibandicus hes not even worth half a level 10

Greegon
01-10-2015, 10:42 PM
holy cow never heard this idea before

Greegon
01-10-2015, 10:42 PM
mind




blown

Bazia
01-10-2015, 10:43 PM
or nakor or saen etc

Slathar
01-10-2015, 10:43 PM
i luv big guilds cuz i luv pvp

more targets more fun


everquest is fun. for everyone.

Colgate
01-10-2015, 10:44 PM
i would hate to be a near best in slot level 60 that's barely worth more points than a level 10 newbie in crushbone wearing literally nothing

forgot to add:

that also boasts about being in a "pvp oriented guild"

Slathar
01-10-2015, 10:45 PM
every once in a while ill just redo my jboot quest cuz i gota keep my jordans clean

Buhbuh
01-10-2015, 10:55 PM
wants higher population



wishes an entire guild quits


NEXT


Funny paradox 8)

But so true

Ragnaros
01-10-2015, 10:57 PM
HEH u are all garbage and not even avid pvpers

Slathar
01-10-2015, 10:57 PM
Funny paradox 8)

But so true

oh so you want a lower population server?

Colgate
01-10-2015, 10:58 PM
i know of at least 75 people who would come back to the server if azrael were gone

Kergan
01-10-2015, 11:01 PM
That's like a whole guild!

Slathar
01-10-2015, 11:01 PM
list them in alphabetical order

Buhbuh
01-10-2015, 11:17 PM
oh so you want a lower population server?

For that short month where everyone is realizing you're gone and a resurgence of interest hits R99 again.

Don't decontextualize

NEXT

daasgoot
01-10-2015, 11:25 PM
75 ppl not playing cuz the 15 az on at any given time pvp'ing and having fun?

what a bunch a faggots.. why would u want them on the server?

Steel Warrior
01-10-2015, 11:25 PM
wants higher population



wishes an entire guild quits


NEXT

wants life

cuts out cancerous tissue

nuance is hard for some people

Steel Warrior
01-10-2015, 11:32 PM
75 ppl not playing cuz the 15 az on at any given time pvp'ing and having fun?

what a bunch a faggots.. why would u want them on the server?

Here is a difficult life lesson for you: the majority, by definition, is sane.

If most people dislike your behavior, maybe it's time to make some adjustments.

daasgoot
01-11-2015, 12:42 AM
Here is a difficult life lesson for you: the majority, by definition, is sane.

If most people dislike your behavior, maybe it's time to make some adjustments.

what about my personal in game play do you not like?

Steel Warrior
01-11-2015, 12:45 AM
what about my personal in game play do you not like?

You whine about other people zerging and then you join the gang bang grief guild. You could not be more lame. I've never seen you stay and fight when you didn't have superior numbers. You're a hypocrite.

Slathar
01-11-2015, 12:50 AM
i enjoy when people dislike my behavior in video games. it's hilarious.

daasgoot
01-11-2015, 12:51 AM
You whine about other people zerging and then you join the gang bang grief guild. You could not be more lame. I've never seen you stay and fight when you didn't have superior numbers. You're a hypocrite.

no, im talking about in game play.

not forumquest.

i have seen you once in game.. and u immediately made a thread about it.

point is, you don't know me so stfu.

dontbanpls
01-11-2015, 12:53 AM
i remember when dasgoot came to the server he was a nice guy who didnt sling faggot out of his mouth every chance he got

daasgoot
01-11-2015, 12:54 AM
i remember when dasgoot came to the server he was a nice guy who didnt sling faggot out of his mouth every chance he got

i am a nice guy in game..

forumquest on the other hand.

Steel Warrior
01-11-2015, 01:46 AM
no, im talking about in game play.

not forumquest.

i have seen you once in game.. and u immediately made a thread about it.

point is, you don't know me so stfu.

What part of running away if you don't have superior numbers isn't in game? I see you more often than you see me, because you're running for the nearest zone line.

Pikrib
01-11-2015, 09:52 AM
Here is a difficult life lesson for you: the majority, by definition, is sane.

If most people dislike your behavior, maybe it's time to make some adjustments.

The majority of Germans didn't like jewish people. Sane people started the Holocust?

Pikrib
01-11-2015, 09:55 AM
You whine about other people zerging and then you join the gang bang grief guild. You could not be more lame. I've never seen you stay and fight when you didn't have superior numbers. You're a hypocrite.

Syft/BK = Steel Warrior.. confirmed. Everyone should just go ahead and pop him on ignore now.

Sapphiay
01-11-2015, 11:01 AM
from Pikrib:

The majority of Germans didn't like jewish people. Sane people started the Holocust?

You watch to many movies of second world war? Since the time of Hippies and 60 er the percent of Nazis in Germany are below 4 percent.

heartbrand
01-11-2015, 11:17 AM
Antisemitism is huge in Europe, although today it more commonly is displayed as anti-Israel sentiments to disguise its true form.

heartbrand
01-11-2015, 11:25 AM
Antisemitism has increased significantly in Europe since 2000, with significant increases in verbal attacks against Jews and vandalism such as graffiti, fire bombings of Jewish schools, desecration of synagogues and cemeteries. Those incidents took place not only in France and Germany, where antisemitic incidents are the highest in Europe but also in countries like Belgium, Austria, and the United Kingdom. In those countries, physical assaults against Jews including beatings, stabbings and other violence, increased markedly, in a number of cases resulting in serious injury and even death.[8][9] Moreover, the Netherlands and Sweden have also had consistently high rates of antisemitic attacks since 2000.[10]

heartbrand
01-11-2015, 11:29 AM
The study found that "people who believed the anti-Israel mythologies also tended to believe that Jews are not honest in business, have dual loyalties, control government and the economy, and the like." The study found, anti-Israel respondents were 56% more likely to be anti-Semitic than the average European.[28]

bouncerr 2.0
01-11-2015, 11:30 AM
tldr

Sapphiay
01-11-2015, 12:03 PM
It has something to do with Islam lately.

daasgoot
01-11-2015, 12:33 PM
What part of running away if you don't have superior numbers isn't in game? I see you more often than you see me, because you're running for the nearest zone line.

who do you play in game?

anyone i play with can attest to the falsity of your statement.

Colgate
01-11-2015, 12:34 PM
the last time i saw goot in game he chased an unbuffed monk into the middle of dreadlands and then gated once i turned around to fight him

daasgoot
01-11-2015, 12:41 PM
the last time i saw goot in game he chased an unbuffed monk into the middle of dreadlands and then gated once i turned around to fight him

lol... last time you saw me u were on dizark watching the PVP as usual.


regarding the situation you are talking about.

i ran over to FM because kammbo and datboom showed up and i would have gotten destroyed.

3x lvl 60's vs 1x lvl 58, all 3x 60's being more geared than the 58.

also, can't land malosini on you.. need a malo or tash into malosini which i don't have.

Steel Warrior
01-11-2015, 01:21 PM
The majority of Germans didn't like jewish people. Sane people started the Holocust?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law

Stasis01
01-11-2015, 01:24 PM
My father is from Germany(and left because of ww2) and said people were starving before Hitler came, I can't say what it's like to have my kids starving but I'd probably do a lot for the guy who stopped that.

I'm not saying it's that simple but the guy wasn't all bad for his people at first.

Slathar
01-11-2015, 03:55 PM
My father is from Germany(and left because of ww2) and said people were starving before Hitler came, I can't say what it's like to have my kids starving but I'd probably do a lot for the guy who stopped that.

I'm not saying it's that simple but the guy wasn't all bad for his people at first.

lol

SamwiseRed
01-11-2015, 03:56 PM
Wtf

Sapphiay
01-11-2015, 04:01 PM
It was all payed by robbed money from jewish and working on Autobahnen doesn't bring any money. Without war there would have been a terrible crash of economy. And the whole world did starve at this time. He was only good for people without brain. He had no majority in the last free election only like 40 percent. But he was constituted to Reichspräsident by Hindenburg and was given the total power by the Reichsermächtigungsgesetz. The first who got arrested and mostly killed were all socialists and communists. Any free speech wasn't allowed after this anymore. Hindenburg wanted to use him as stronghold against communism. After he became the Führer people adored him with like 90 percent of the remaining population. But one can only guess because there were no free elections anymore and many just kept quiet or left.

Bazia
01-11-2015, 04:03 PM
Reichsermächtigungsgesetz

LostCause
01-11-2015, 04:04 PM
http://mattveryard.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/jerash-lizard-being-crushed-not-really1.jpg

Nirgon
01-11-2015, 04:28 PM
I like HB

Israel is horrible

heartbrand
01-11-2015, 05:03 PM
Ya the Middle East needs another shariah law theocracy ran by brain dead Moran towel heads to set up attacks on western countries from while building zero economic infrastructure, cuz there's not enough of those already.

Meanwhile Saudi Arabia is hanging people for being gay, but I don't see tons of young liberals on college campuses protesting.

If the Iroquois nation decided to start firing missles at us I guarantee we would level them to the ground and wouldn't be debating whether or not they have a legitimate claim to America or not.

Steel Warrior
01-11-2015, 05:07 PM
http://mattveryard.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/jerash-lizard-being-crushed-not-really1.jpg

Poor Gyno :( :( :(