Who Has Been Worse For The Server? Lite or Nizzar?

[heartbrand]

Potential reasons to vote Lite:

1) Actively attempts to kill the smaller guilds off server and prevent them from growing
2) Frequent Boxing
3) RMT
4) Cheating and lying to GM's
5) Holds peoples characters hostage
6) Known pixel black hole
7) Illegal Alien


Potential reasons to vote Nizzar:

1) Cheated every chance he could, exploiting content
2) RMT
3) Held down all other guilds and had choke hold on pixels
4) Poor dental hygiene
5) Canadian



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[Ragnaros]

Please leave Real life attacks off the forums, I will be reporting this thread.

[Jimmybones]

lite is a fgt but nizzar brought the population down into single digits pretty much single handily via his guild policies

[heartbrand]

you literally typed that response out in < 10 seconds after I posted the thread. I am thoroughly impressed with your level of Forum dedication.

[dontbanpls]

Potential reasons to vote Lite:

1) Actively attempts to kill the smaller guilds off server and prevent them from growing
2) Frequent Boxing
3) RMT
4) Cheating and lying to GM's
5) Holds peoples characters hostage
6) Known pixel black hole
7) Illegal Alien
8) Registered sex offender (for rape)

Potential reasons to vote Nizzar:

1) Cheated every chance he could, exploiting content
2) RMT
3) Held down all other guilds and had choke hold on pixels
4) Poor dental hygiene
5) Canadian



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[daasgoot]

cringe worth thread.

HB's immersion+emotions running wild atm.

[Nirgon]

If you leave Azrael or make your own guild and Lite deletes your character, I will help you remake it so you can be free

One at a time please though

[LostCause]

mad kids.

[Guido]

cringe worth thread.

HB's immersion+emotions running wild atm.

[Stalos_]

Nizzar obvious answer.

Pras Lite and his loyal champions of Norrath fighting Zerg after Zerg day after day.

Pras those trying to keep this server red.

[Fame]

HB's immersion+emotions running wild atm.

[Guido]

Nizzar obvious answer.

Pras Lite and his loyal champions of Norrath fighting Zerg after Zerg day after day.

Pras those trying to keep this server red.

[lite]

another Lite thread?

NEXT !

[Steel Warrior]

Both Lite and Nizzar are extremely bad for the box as evidenced by the server population when either controls the top raid guild.

Nizzar is just smarter and better at it, so the malaise he brought to the server lasted much longer.

Evil genius versus malignant moron. Too close to call.

[Eslade]

comparing the guy that helped you with red dawn 2.0 to the guy that said he wanted to put you in an oven. come on hb you're better than this.

[Doors]

I voted Nizzar but honestly, the core of Azrael is equal to if not worse than the shit he pulled.

[HippoNipple]

comparing the guy that helped you with red dawn 2.0 to the guy that said he wanted to put you in an oven. come on hb you're better than this.

Lite hurt Red Dawn 1.0 and 2.0.

[dontbanpls]

not sure which one eslade is even referring to since both lite and nizzar said that plenty of time

[Amplitude]

Nizzar was worse and everyone who kept joining his guild are far worse than any azrael

[dontbanpls]

Poll seems about 50/50. Kind of surprised that Lite only had control of the server for about a month and people think he's as bad/worse than nizzar. Says a lot though

[Danien]

Overall negative impact is hands down Nizzar. The core of azrael are awful but they push people away so they will never have the same impact on the server that Nizzar had.

[Recycled Children]

Lite is almost barely a factor. You can't deny the impact the duke had on this server.

[Amplitude]

Saskrotch join AIM chat

[Recycled Children]

Saskrotch join AIM chat

Send me them deets.

[Amplitude]

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=176641

[Bazia]

whoever said cringeworthy im going to go with that

[red99]

heartbrand more toxic / lies more than both of these guys combined


just lacks in the skill /knowledge nizzarr and lite both have


heartbrand # 1 thief ,loser, sociopath 3.5 years running now

[Itap]

Nizzar had pop in the 50's prime time back in the day

[Bazia]

Words out you Can roll red be like 60 in a week and raiding without variance or competition

[Colgate]

lite makes nizzar look like a saint

[Barladore]

lite's ability to rustle ppl across the globe is truly impressive

[Colgate]

ain't no1 mad that lite is both a toxic player and losing at everquest perpetually

[Kergan]

Believe it or not Nizzar started to soften toward the end. I think even he was getting bored. For the life of me I can't figure out why Lite is put in any position of power. Maybe he is a likeable guy or something but failing repeatedly over 2 years and being a known cheater and RMTer...dunno. I guess I give him at least a little respect for somehow maintaining enough loyal troops to keep the guild tag alive. More and more abandoning ship every week if the message boards are any indication.

[Pudge]

This shouldn't even be a poll. It is obvious to any vet that nizzar's impact was far worse. Server population literally skyrocketed in response to nizzat being banned/nihilum disband. Not even a question

[Kergan]

p.s. if Kringe ever started up on R99 again I'd renounce all affiliations and beg for an invite. Just thought I'd throw that out there, that is what being a both a cool guy and a good player will get you.

[Kergan]

This shouldn't even be a poll. It is obvious to any vet that nizzar's impact was far worse. Server population literally skyrocketed in response to nizzat being banned/nihilum disband. Not even a question

How do we know Lite being banned wont have the same effect? Don't try to pretend he hasn't broken just as many if not more rules than Nizzar did.

[Smedy]

because when lite was getting uncontested pixels he stopped logging in or not even killing half of the shit that was spawning

[Stalos_]

because when lite was getting uncontested pixels he stopped logging in or not even killing half of the shit that was spawning

exactly. core pvp'rs wouldn't log in after the 3rd time. But somehow our numbers were at 36 in vp a few times, who were those people? haha

Teamspeak was full of grumbling because killing all the mobs every fuckin week + sim pops became a job.

Common comment in TS was along the lines of "How did they do this for 2 years uncontested?"

tldr: Without pvp for mobs, Azrael has shown no real interest in keeping all the mobs down. We just aren't built for that type of raiding.

I do get a chuckle loading in game at 9am my time before school and seeing list cut short for holo enjoying those 3am pixels and seeing a particular iksar monk slaying uncontested dragons 888)

[Sapphiay]

The point in getting people banned is a rising population or to much success here? This server is ridiculous. Blue has a huge population. Just go there if you want many player. All accusations of RMT are functional instruments here. Look at Happy-Sektor playing here.

[heartbrand]

heartbrand more toxic / lies more than both of these guys combined


just lacks in the skill /knowledge nizzarr and lite both have


heartbrand # 1 thief ,loser, sociopath 3.5 years running now

exactly. core pvp'rs wouldn't log in after the 3rd time. But somehow our numbers were at 36 in vp a few times, who were those people? haha

Teamspeak was full of grumbling because killing all the mobs every fuckin week + sim pops became a job.

Common comment in TS was along the lines of "How did they do this for 2 years uncontested?"

tldr: Without pvp for mobs, Azrael has shown no real interest in keeping all the mobs down. We just aren't built for that type of raiding.

I do get a chuckle loading in game at 9am my time before school and seeing list cut short for holo enjoying those 3am pixels and seeing a particular iksar monk slaying uncontested dragons 888)

Yet you had 30+ people at all the mobs only two weeks ago during the holidays when many holo members were away? You guys killed basically every mob worth killing in the game when nihilum died but because you left up talendor and nagafen you are somehow less of a nerd than they were or something. Yaw ok.

[Smedy]

makes poll > was in nihilum for over 2 years

heartbrand, stop posting 8)

let the clean whistles talk dawg

[Stalos_]

Yet you had 30+ people at all the mobs only two weeks ago during the holidays when many holo members were away? You guys killed basically every mob worth killing in the game when nihilum died but because you left up talendor and nagafen you are somehow less of a nerd than they were or something. Yaw ok.

not sure if you being serious...

[LastBoss]

you need a button for both of em..

[Stasis01]

Voted Nizzar, all Az really did was lose/wait around till Nizzar wasn't around.

[Bazia]

its neat when 40+ people all day talk on the forum about a guild of around 8 guys

[Stasis01]

It's neat that ur only good because of broken unclassic resists -_-.

[Eslade]

It's neat that ur only good because of broken unclassic resists -_-.

p sure that holocaust has more of every class than azrael. why aren't yours doing just as good?

hint : because they can't be.

[Amplitude]

makes poll > was in nihilum for over 2 years

heartbrand, stop posting 8)

let the clean whistles talk dawg

[Bazia]

lol stasis talking shit when hes playing unclassic god mod rogue and t staff monk


ok

[Ragnaros]

stasis is god awful, still waiting for the confirm fo da 1v1 char delete

[Stasis01]

p sure that holocaust has more of every class than azrael. why aren't yours doing just as good?

hint : because they can't be.

Are we talking the leaderboard? I went top 10 with Stasis because I bound in Erudin and killed naked Nihis while they raided.

Did it matter, no, would I do it again, maybe probably not.

People put so much hype into that shit when really the heavy hitters only show up for raid PVP.

[Stasis01]

lol stasis talking shit when hes playing unclassic god mod rogue and t staff monk


ok

The part I find amusing is that you want PVP so badly, but unless someone has more numbers, or it's over something - they won't risk being raptured/root/blinded and just plug, giving you no PVP.

Can't do anything raid vs raid pvp.

People don't want to fight stupid broken mechanics.

G G TIME FOR A BREAK.

[Eslade]

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[Thrilla]

Lite far and away the winner, forever a dukesman

[dontbanpls]

Very surprised but not surprised

[Greegon]

Canadian is a deal breaker voted niz

[Greegon]

lite makes nizzar look like a saint

brain rot setting in

[JudgementRed]

Looks like Lite is actually ... "winning" !

http://www.humorlaugh.com/pictures/8_funny_fat_kids_pictures/1321-fat-kid.jpeg

[fred schnarf]

i dont think lite has the influence to really accomplish anything, no one takes him serious and anyone in azrael is a fool,

as for nizzar his policies basically ran red99 into the RMT Toilet and he ruined the server for 2 years.

i have no idea why anyone is voting lite other then to troll.

[LostCause]

mad

[Dacuk]

Yet you had 30+ people at all the mobs only two weeks ago during the holidays when many holo members were away? You guys killed basically every mob worth killing in the game when nihilum died but because you left up talendor and nagafen you are somehow less of a nerd than they were or something. Yaw ok.


two weeks ago:

[Thu Dec 25 02:48:35 2014] Players on EverQuest:
[Thu Dec 25 02:48:35 2014] ---------------------------
[Thu Dec 25 02:48:35 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Sootwulf
[Thu Dec 25 02:48:35 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Lite
[Thu Dec 25 02:48:35 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Knife
[Thu Dec 25 02:48:35 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Novus <Azrael>
[Thu Dec 25 02:48:35 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Achondroplasia <Azrael>
[Thu Dec 25 02:48:35 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Imago
[Thu Dec 25 02:48:35 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Nadir <Azrael>
[Thu Dec 25 02:48:35 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Larsen
[Thu Dec 25 02:48:35 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Brobby <Cabal>
[Thu Dec 25 02:48:35 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Powered
[Thu Dec 25 02:48:35 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Kecleon
[Thu Dec 25 02:48:35 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Stalos
[Thu Dec 25 02:48:35 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Sickpuppy <Azrael>
[Thu Dec 25 02:48:35 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Ragnaros
[Thu Dec 25 02:48:35 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Chuckdusky
[Thu Dec 25 02:48:35 2014] [ANONYMOUS] North <Azrael>
[Thu Dec 25 02:48:35 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Shnarf
[Thu Dec 25 02:48:35 2014] There are 17 players in Veeshan's Peak.
[Thu Dec 25 02:55:41 2014] Phara Dar has been slain by Chuckdusky!

[JPMorgan]

Evil genius versus malignant moron. Too close to call.

[Tassador]

Real simple nizzar Villian for 2+ years strangle hold server. Lite winner of nothing has the allegiance of best eq players which by now guys you should know is not winning. At least be the best in a relevant game.

[Kergan]

i dont think lite has the influence to really accomplish anything, no one takes him serious and anyone in azrael is a fool,

as for nizzar his policies basically ran red99 into the RMT Toilet and he ruined the server for 2 years.

i have no idea why anyone is voting lite other then to troll.

Because the reason Nizzar was able to have a 2 year uncontested (mostly) stranglehold on the server was because the leadership of the only other guild that stuck around that long was so toxic and inept there was never a true challenge to Nihilum.

Lite deserves almost the same level as blame/credit as Nizzar for Nihilum being on top for as long as they were. Throw in the fact that he is now doing the same exact thing (nosediving the "resistance" through mismanagement and general doucebaggery) after Nihilum is gone and that puts him over the top.

[heartbrand]

The vast majority of apps I saw to nihilum stated they were apping because azrael was awful.

[Stalos_]

Azrael99

Home of the best; rogues, enchanters, Jedi, wizards, unstable clerics, feign tanking SKs, arsenal of whored out Warriors, breeding ground of iksar monks gone full retard, one necro at any given time, 4 rangers whom are told to play something useful, and couple misc druids.

All fighting the 70+ zerg/ alliance of fresh day in day out trying to keep the server red as possible.

Pras Azrael and its ongoing resolve. Along with probably being the most said pronoun on the forums aside from Lite.

Hate us/aint us

[Ragnaros]

Azrael99

Home of the best; rogues, enchanters, Jedi, wizards, unstable clerics, feign tanking SKs, arsenal of whored out Warriors, breeding ground of iksar monks gone full retard, one necro at any given time, 4 rangers whom are told to play something useful, and couple misc druids.

All fighting the 70+ zerg/ alliance of fresh day in day out trying to keep the server red as possible.

Pras Azrael and its ongoing resolve. Along with probably being the most said pronoun on the forums aside from Lite.

Hate us/aint us

[bolo]

This shouldn't even be a poll. It is obvious to any vet that nizzar's impact was far worse. Server population literally skyrocketed in response to nizzat being banned/nihilum disband. Not even a question

this

Viva la resistencia!

[Infectious]

Potential reasons to vote Lite:

1) Actively attempts to kill the smaller guilds off server and prevent them from growing
2) Frequent Boxing
3) RMT
4) Cheating and lying to GM's
5) Holds peoples characters hostage
6) Known pixel black hole
7) Illegal Alien


Potential reasons to vote Nizzar:

1) Cheated every chance he could, exploiting content
2) RMT
3) Held down all other guilds and had choke hold on pixels
4) Poor dental hygiene
5) Canadian



http://www.linesandcolors.com/images/2006-11/vote_450a.jpg

Werent you in nihilum also? Your just as much of a bitch as the other 2 people listed above. Reality check !

[Jib]

HB dont try to converse with the commonfolk, they will never understand nobles like us.

[heartbrand]

Thread looking successful so far. We will see if it can keep its steam going through the week.

[Pikrib]

Azrael99

Home of the best; rogues, enchanters, Jedi, wizards, unstable clerics, feign tanking SKs, arsenal of whored out Warriors, breeding ground of iksar monks gone full retard, one necro at any given time, 4 rangers whom are told to play something useful, and couple misc druids.

All fighting the 70+ zerg/ alliance of fresh day in day out trying to keep the server red as possible.

Pras Azrael and its ongoing resolve. Along with probably being the most said pronoun on the forums aside from Lite.

Hate us/aint us

Feels good to be included =)

Go Broncos!

[Quiet]

I'm enjoying HB's immersion.

[SamwiseRed]

Really? Lite got nothing on Nizzar.

[Ragnaros]

You guys are psychos, didn't lite literally host an open dragon raid and basically let people loot cloak of flames? I remember seeing Talendor and Sev floating around ready for someone to kill when at the time Holo's bat phone would produce 30~ , whats the deal?

[Nothxu]

Is Nizzarr worse for the server because he was the most successful in gearing his guild and squashing the opposition to that point that it hurt the server population?

Now that he has been banned, all of the people that could not compete before are playing now. Playing now, and doing all of the same things he was doing.

However, there is something to be said for Lite and the people that have stayed and remained in Azrael - constantly fighting against greater numbers. They truly enjoy pvp, even if they are not as successful when it comes to raiding or recruiting or running a guild.

Nihilum or Holocaust - the strategy is the same. Out recruit, find people who are blue but still like to pvp sometimes, and kill raid mobs when they pop. To pretend they are any different is silly.

I still think Nizzarr is the best raid leader / guild leader, so much so that it sucked the motivation out of opposing guilds / new players. I think he won the server until the GMs needed to find a way to intervene, which at the end of the day maybe added population and gave hope to the people that could not compete previously.

[heartbrand]

Couldn't disagree more with Nothxu's assessment. How many people were able to lead holocaust when Nizzar was absent? Almost every single time Nizzar took a break, even just to go to a one day MTG tournament, we typically lost every mob to Azrael. He empowered no one else in Nihilum to accomplish anything.

In holocaust there are no less than 10 people who can successfully lead and pull raids for us, including Weta, someone who was not empowered to do anything in Nihilum. The culture is completely different in Holocaust. We sell BP's out of guild at reasonable prices, and even let the other guild Fresh loot VS epic's for free. Could you imagine that ever happening in Nihilum? Heck you couldn't even get that for free as a guild member!

[lite]

and even let the other guild Fresh loot VS epic's for free.



See sig..

Making sure Holocaust didn't get rolled over = Free, lol

NEXT

[krazyGlue]

Fresh makes sure holo doesnt lose. Vs . In return they get a ranger/Druid epic that rotts in most people's bags =)

[Sapphiay]

There had been raids leaded by officer in Nihilum. To say we had not been able to make raids because he had some secret knowledge he didn't share with other monks is a bit poor. It is working now without Nizzars secret knowledge? It the truth people had no fun in killing bossmobs without Nizzar, because it was the 1000th kill of trakanon and all were tired of this. When he logged in he brought them to fight against bossmobs and in pvp. Someone got attacked. The guildies had been busy with pained soul, this and that. He always immediately jumped in the fight to help any attacked guildmember so the other ended there activities and joined the fight. They would not have done this without him mostly.
All loot was offered to guild for a reasonable price at the forum homepage. There was no offer to help other guilds though. But that was the same with Azrael who attacked epic mobs and trained epicquests of newbies. Nihilum loved to kill the General to take the loot away from other player outside the guild.
Don't forget to thank Deruabael for his never ending recruiting work on Blue though to make this wonder of 350 player happen.

[Eslade]

There had been raids leaded by officer in Nihilum. To say we had not been able to make raids because he had some secret knowledge he didn't share with other monks is a bit poor. It is working now without Nizzars secret knowledge? It the truth people had no fun in killing bossmobs without Nizzar, because it was the 1000th kill of trakanon and all were tired of this. When he logged in he brought them to fight against bossmobs and in pvp. Someone got attacked. The guildies had been busy with pained soul, this and that. He always immediately jumped in the fight to help any attacked guildmember so the other ended there activities and joined the fight. They would not have done this without him mostly.
All loot was offered to guild for a reasonable price at the forum homepage. There was no offer to help other guilds though. But that was the same with Azrael who attacked epic mobs and trained epicquests of newbies. Nihilum loved to kill the General to take the loot away from other player outside the guild.
Don't forget to thank Deruabael for his never ending recruiting work on Blue though to make this wonder of 350 player happen.

Tldr