For Loudog

[Modus]

Recon Haze, Martian Mean Green, Bogbubble, 3-4 other sativas @ 2 weeks
https://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/3961IMG_0874.JPG

Mid veg, same cycle, look at dem sativas STREEEETCH!
https://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/3961IMG_1189.JPG

Quality genetics are quality~
https://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/3961IMG_1477.JPG

Who needs indicas w/ sativas like this?
https://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/3961IMG_1603.JPG

[Agatha]

those are actually some nice sativa, big buds. how long to flower?

i don't run sativa cause long flower times and generally small buds compared to indica. but thems some nice nuggets.

can we get some close ups of the nuggets?

do you use co2?

edit : bonus pic // red as fuck *****

http://i.imgur.com/igstJfZ.jpg

[Modus]

Those went 75 days, hence the yellowing of the leaves as I flush my organic soil for two weeks before chop. Last picture was taken on harvest day. All of the indicas had been chopped several weeks earlier - my Bogbubble pheno flowers in 40-45 days, most about 60.

Super simple setup in this room, just 2 600s and some 5 gallon buckets. I also run organic hydro in a "multi-flow" bucket system.

Crappy attempt at macro...
https://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/3961IMG_1743.JPG

Bogbubble halfway through flower:
https://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/3961IMG_1329.JPG

Recon Haze:
https://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/3961IMG_1649.JPG

[hint]

wtb

[Sirken]

I flush my organic soil for two weeks before chop.

just curious, why?

i imagine you are also using organic nutes, or thered be no point in having organic soil, as it would defeat the purpose of using it if u were just filling it full of dirty chemicals anyway.

[Agatha]

sirken u gotta flush for 2 weeks, u just do nothing but water before chop, it gets rid of the nitrogen and other nutes, and makes the taste much more natural.

it doesn't matter if its natural nutes and natural soil mix, it still tastes like ass when there is a ton of nutes up in it.

[LulzSect]

If only you were an expert in not getting caught.

http://clean.alltheragefaces.com/img/faces/large/troll-troll-dad-dance-jump-l.png

[Modus]

just curious, why?

i imagine you are also using organic nutes, or thered be no point in having organic soil, as it would defeat the purpose of using it if u were just filling it full of dirty chemicals anyway.

As Agatha said, N P and K build up in the soil and plant over time (along with the leftover salts of liquid organic nutes), which creates a thick harsh smoke if left in the bud. By flushing the soil, any built-up nutrients are washed away - the plant is already done growing, so they're not needed. The nitrogen depletion causes the leaves to yellow as the plants sucks remaining nutrients out of the fans.

Everything I grow is 100% legal here in Oregon, and consumed only for medicinal uses (as playing red99 can induce anxiety, headaches, and nausea).

[iiNGloriouS]

Aw shit. Oregon. Love dis place.

[Agatha]

one day jupe might let me post some of my oil money pics, but for now here's a picture of my dog.

http://i.imgur.com/LwSoU3X.jpg

[Kergan]

You should use some of your oil money to buy a decent keyboard and mouse, and maybe a desk not from the dormroom section of wal-mart.

[Agatha]

You should use some of your oil money to buy a decent keyboard and mouse, and maybe a desk not from the dormroom section of wal-mart.

this pic is from 2005, lol. that dog is dead even.

I was learning to grow in my parents house closet at this point. look how beautiful healthy that plant is :) look at how many nodes u got goin on in there.

[Kergan]

RIP in peace dog

[mugien]

rest in peace in peace dog

[LostCause]

i still say haze is best tasting out anything ive smoked could be any strand of haze too.

[fred schnarf]

first off, two words

magnesium supplement.

Second, dont expect to ever break 8% THC With sodium as all the uvb is blocked by the glass in the bulb.

Purity of water and light = success.

AKA Buy a RO Unit you cheap fuck and a gallon of cal mag

Third, why are you growing in soil, i mean you spend all the time and effort only to suffocate your roots and take a giant crap on your potency for what? To pretend its organic?

You do realize almost every nutrient has urea or B vitamins that require breathing or you get burn, which is clearly visible in every pic by either yellowing or down pointing leaves.

You could improve this grow literally by using the same pots, a 4" Rockwool block and a couple bags of clay, have more breathability and water retention and be completely ph stable

whereas you have a bunch of rotting natural nutrient compounds and are probably watering them with tap water killing any beneficial bacteria that might convert that garbage from ammonia to usable soluable nitrogen.

[HippoNipple]

first off, two words

magnesium supplement.

Second, dont expect to ever break 8% THC With sodium as all the uvb is blocked by the glass in the bulb.

Purity of water and light = success.

AKA Buy a RO Unit you cheap fuck and a gallon of cal mag

Third, why are you growing in soil, i mean you spend all the time and effort only to suffocate your roots and take a giant crap on your potency for what? To pretend its organic?

You do realize almost every nutrient has urea or B vitamins that require breathing or you get burn, which is clearly visible in every pic by either yellowing or down pointing leaves.

You could improve this grow literally by using the same pots, a 4" Rockwool block and a couple bags of clay, have more breathability and water retention and be completely ph stable

whereas you have a bunch of rotting natural nutrient compounds and are probably watering them with tap water killing any beneficial bacteria that might convert that garbage from ammonia to usable soluable nitrogen.

Sounds like one tasty tomato

[iiNGloriouS]

Sounds like one tasty tomato

[Modus]

first off, two words

magnesium supplement.

Second, dont expect to ever break 8% THC With sodium as all the uvb is blocked by the glass in the bulb.

Purity of water and light = success.

AKA Buy a RO Unit you cheap fuck and a gallon of cal mag

Third, why are you growing in soil, i mean you spend all the time and effort only to suffocate your roots and take a giant crap on your potency for what? To pretend its organic?

You do realize almost every nutrient has urea or B vitamins that require breathing or you get burn, which is clearly visible in every pic by either yellowing or down pointing leaves.

You could improve this grow literally by using the same pots, a 4" Rockwool block and a couple bags of clay, have more breathability and water retention and be completely ph stable

whereas you have a bunch of rotting natural nutrient compounds and are probably watering them with tap water killing any beneficial bacteria that might convert that garbage from ammonia to usable soluable nitrogen.

... has never grown pot in his life. Begone from this fine thread, poser!

[Jimmybones]

first off, two words

magnesium supplement.

Second, dont expect to ever break 8% THC With sodium as all the uvb is blocked by the glass in the bulb.

Purity of water and light = success.

AKA Buy a RO Unit you cheap fuck and a gallon of cal mag

Third, why are you growing in soil, i mean you spend all the time and effort only to suffocate your roots and take a giant crap on your potency for what? To pretend its organic?

You do realize almost every nutrient has urea or B vitamins that require breathing or you get burn, which is clearly visible in every pic by either yellowing or down pointing leaves.

You could improve this grow literally by using the same pots, a 4" Rockwool block and a couple bags of clay, have more breathability and water retention and be completely ph stable

whereas you have a bunch of rotting natural nutrient compounds and are probably watering them with tap water killing any beneficial bacteria that might convert that garbage from ammonia to usable soluable nitrogen.

Now if you could just put the same amount of effort into a job you might be able to move out of your grandmothers attic

[Modus]

Our cat loves munching on fan leaves from the base of the plants.

https://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/3961IMG_1052.JPG

All dat suffocation and nutrient burn... how will dey ever cope?! This male has sexy structure... not gay bros promise.

https://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/3961IMG_1036.JPG

[Colgate]

very cool thread

[Dango]

It's cool because Colgate thinks it is cool...
You know you're not cool when an 18year old kid who plays video games till 6am thinks your cool.

[Samsung]

It's cool because Colgate thinks it is cool...
You know you're not cool when an 18year old kid who plays video games till 6am thinks your cool.

[Colgate]

both "you're" and "your" in the same sentence and both being used in the same way

we got a real winner here

[gobletsmashing]

^

[Jimmybones]

both "you're" and "your" in the same sentence and both being used in the same way

we got a real winner here

hehehe

[Mac Drettj]

lol is dango that dumb ass brobb?

[Clark]

Hurb nobody cares what you have to say. Also your name is an atrocity; you are the farthest thing from loyal.

Maybe loyal to your best friend online who sells fake car parts online scamming people??

[Silent]

Personally I stopped posting on icmag a long time ago, when the string of busts from simple img metadata caused a huge stir. I haven't looked in a while, But a lot of pics from 3-4 years ago are still up on there detailing seed/clone to flower to harvest to cured bud for a couple diff strains with some nice high reso photos of the colas before and after.

Most people still never believe how big the bud tops(colas i call them) shrink down after harvest so while still flowering they look much huger then they actually are. But the tops are always the best buds, lower stuff I usually see a few popcorn nugs but the rest is scraps for hash.

[Modus]

But the tops are always the best buds, lower stuff I usually see a few popcorn nugs but the rest is scraps for hash.

A key to good yield and quality with small plant numbers (indoors and out) is controlling the canopy and plant structure. This particular room was SCROGed, which means training the plant under a screen to promote a "rose bush" structure rather than a "pine tree." Pine trees, or single cola plants, cause much of your yield to be at the base of the plant rather than at the top.

https://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/3961IMG_0992.JPG

A nice, fairly even canopy despite there being a mix of different indicas and sativas with much different morphology.

https://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/3961IMG_1173.JPG

[Modus]

You know you're not cool when an 18year old kid who plays video games till 6am thinks your cool.

Clearly not understanding the intricacies of elf simulation mixed with cannabis. Someone send Brobb some DMT.

[Handpartytowel]

need sniperfire up in this thread.

[Silent]

Modus I am extremely familiar with scrog =) although I mostly stick to topping a few times I don't use any type of screen to keep them up but I do sometimes have to prop up colas in late flowering to support the bulk, 45-50 days of veg 55 days flower for my current 'Chronic' strain taken from DNA genetics took 40 some seeds to find 2 proper females worth keeping. From clone(started with 1 mother, took 2 clones turned into 2 more mothers for total of 3 to get what i need. With light movers, co2 I get a pretty well rounded grow. I am still using HPS and dirt(I prefer it over hydro even though its messy its what I know)

I started off using a DIY hydro bubble cloner made of a simple plastic container with holes in the top and some air bubble machines for fish tanks from the store, it was pretty ghetto but it worked. From there I moved onto a DIY aeroponic cloner before finally just buying a straight up 100 and 200 prebuilt aeroponic cloner which has worked great. When I first started, LEDs were new territory. The only people using them, were doing small grows, no more then 5-10 plants tops. HPS lightning takes huge amount of electricity, I have read and seen a lot of LED grows and big break through in that area the past few years. Would be awesome to swap out hps for an all LED grow but I would need to do a few harvests minimum of testing before making that leap.

Most people think im crazy cause i don't smoke, but mehhhh, I just like growing marijuana. The different strains, How each one comes out. The trichromes, the variance of flower time to harvest difference in end dried/cured bud and all that. I started out with a white widow from nirvana seeds about 8 years ago, but nirvana seeds was cheap as balls and you never REALLY knew what you were getting sometimes when I planted seeds of X indica or X sativa, one would grow straight away as a sativa when it was supposed to be indica but meh shit happens when dealing with seeds.

Since then I kept to clones, and all seed grown strains took multiple harvests before I finally settled on a certain genetic of the same strain. I was able to acquire some "original" chemdawg clones from one of the pals of a pal from NY, skeptical at first but they turned out really nice and I have since kept roughly 8 plants per grow every time along side a few other strains like jack herer(clone I picked out myself for once, from the actual plant in cali). It would be so much easier once FL goes legal on medical or what not to acquire better strains, since it brings in a lot of the existing stuff from all over current medical and legal states. I always hated seeds because without seeing where they personally came from you don't know what they can turn out to be.

tl;dr marijuana is a cool plant, lots of strains/phenos, so many cross breeding and naming you can never grow it all. Beware the catpiss wrank bud you may encounter while growing from seed though, just thinking of this tiny little plant that yielded maybe 4 grams made me want to puke the odor was so strong and just str8 catpiss

[Modus]

Very cool. I was explaining SCROG to newbies, not you! I too like to grow more than I like to smoke - it's an awesomely rewarding hobby even if you're not a stoner. I've grown Chronic and it yielded well, good potency, and the short flower time is nice! I grow BOG indicas for that very reason, the short flower time, though they are true indicas.

Breeding may be the most fun aspect of growing... choosing the characteristics you're looking for, selecting plants, the controlled randomness of it all. It's like playing poker with DNA. Lots of skill, a lot of patience, and good luck can lead to amazing results!

I've built small aeroponic cloners with about $20 of materials - I have a cooler and a rubbermaid model, much prefer the cooler. Just a container, pvc w/ some holes, a water pump, and aero misters. I get zero droop or yellowing, roots within just a few days, no chemicals or rooting hormone needed... just distilled water and a clean/sanitized container!

For you newbies, the best time to take a clone is during the height of the light cycle, when all of the auxins have moved to the top of the plant. Also, every guide I've seen recommends cloning from the bottom of the plant...nonsense. The top shoots are healthier and more vigorous, very worth it to give your new daughter the best start possible. The rubber coasters are covering holes so that the mister doesn't spray everywhere. =)~
https://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/3961IMG_1008.JPG

[Jimmybones]

Modus I am extremely familiar with scrog =) although I mostly stick to topping a few times I don't use any type of screen to keep them up but I do sometimes have to prop up colas in late flowering to support the bulk, 45-50 days of veg 55 days flower for my current 'Chronic' strain taken from DNA genetics took 40 some seeds to find 2 proper females worth keeping. From clone(started with 1 mother, took 2 clones turned into 2 more mothers for total of 3 to get what i need. With light movers, co2 I get a pretty well rounded grow. I am still using HPS and dirt(I prefer it over hydro even though its messy its what I know)

I started off using a DIY hydro bubble cloner made of a simple plastic container with holes in the top and some air bubble machines for fish tanks from the store, it was pretty ghetto but it worked. From there I moved onto a DIY aeroponic cloner before finally just buying a straight up 100 and 200 prebuilt aeroponic cloner which has worked great. When I first started, LEDs were new territory. The only people using them, were doing small grows, no more then 5-10 plants tops. HPS lightning takes huge amount of electricity, I have read and seen a lot of LED grows and big break through in that area the past few years. Would be awesome to swap out hps for an all LED grow but I would need to do a few harvests minimum of testing before making that leap.

Most people think im crazy cause i don't smoke, but mehhhh, I just like growing marijuana. The different strains, How each one comes out. The trichromes, the variance of flower time to harvest difference in end dried/cured bud and all that. I started out with a white widow from nirvana seeds about 8 years ago, but nirvana seeds was cheap as balls and you never REALLY knew what you were getting sometimes when I planted seeds of X indica or X sativa, one would grow straight away as a sativa when it was supposed to be indica but meh shit happens when dealing with seeds.

Since then I kept to clones, and all seed grown strains took multiple harvests before I finally settled on a certain genetic of the same strain. I was able to acquire some "original" chemdawg clones from one of the pals of a pal from NY, skeptical at first but they turned out really nice and I have since kept roughly 8 plants per grow every time along side a few other strains like jack herer(clone I picked out myself for once, from the actual plant in cali). It would be so much easier once FL goes legal on medical or what not to acquire better strains, since it brings in a lot of the existing stuff from all over current medical and legal states. I always hated seeds because without seeing where they personally came from you don't know what they can turn out to be.

tl;dr marijuana is a cool plant, lots of strains/phenos, so many cross breeding and naming you can never grow it all. Beware the catpiss wrank bud you may encounter while growing from seed though, just thinking of this tiny little plant that yielded maybe 4 grams made me want to puke the odor was so strong and just str8 catpiss

grows weed illegally in his basement, uses a large amount of narcotics including Xanax and oxy and plays everquest 8 hours a day.


WHAT A LIFE

[Modus]

As far as LEDs go... I've been out of the loop, doing my own thang for too long. No idea what the cool kids are into these days. Seems very logical to have super bright, super cool running, super efficient LEDs. Definitely the future.

Light movers are one more mechanized gadget to break/malfunction/fuck up a plant or room. I try to minimize variables. And hassles.

CO2 falls into the hassle category - are you filling up scuba sized tanks or how does that work? Have you ever done a controlled experiment (CO2 vs non CO2) with identical strains, wattage and conditions?

[Tassador]

If only this effort was put into curing cancer. Nope it's just a huge number of people with no motivation for biology unless it gets you high.

[Tassador]

Fucking hippies

[Thyrm]

Blame big pharma for that. At least the mary jane helps the cancer patients cope with being drowned in radiation and chemicals.

[fred schnarf]

As far as LEDs go... I've been out of the loop, doing my own thang for too long. No idea what the cool kids are into these days. Seems very logical to have super bright, super cool running, super efficient LEDs. Definitely the future.

Light movers are one more mechanized gadget to break/malfunction/fuck up a plant or room. I try to minimize variables. And hassles.

CO2 falls into the hassle category - are you filling up scuba sized tanks or how does that work? Have you ever done a controlled experiment (CO2 vs non CO2) with identical strains, wattage and conditions?

LED are offering more "Pure Light"

If you add up your power costs at the end of your grow , over a year the more expensive light will pay for itself, not to mention, california lightworks is now including a UVB Bulb with a seperate switch so you can use it in the last half of your bloom cycle. UVB Makes plants "Sweat" To protect themselves from it and will basically add 30% More thc

Also please understand sodium bulbs color shift after 60 days , 90 tops, the 2015 digilux bulbs are advertising a guaranteed 6 months without the shift, and its already been tested as bullshit. TLDR That means your sodium bulb sucks after 2 months.

In general a LED Will offer 30% more performance in your bloom cycle over sodium, adding C02 will offer another 30%

Please keep in mind those numbers are based on what i would call a perfect grow, in which you are using PURIFIED WATER And a cal/mag supplement and have a healthy reservoir ( Stop growing in fucking soil )

Also do not forget that success in growing means a perfect balance of nutrients and proper flushing * Using a flushing agent like clearex* And not just fucking water because water does not dissolve mineral salts.

First half of your bloom cycle use a flowering "Enhancer" Second half use a flower "Hardener" Sweeteners are a bonus item for certain strains, also using a "Ripening" product can make some strains polish very very nicely if you are going for a sticky end product but must be used very carefully as they kill leaves fast.

Having a plant with no leaves that isnt finished budding can be bad.

Do not ever expect to break 5% thc growing in soil with sodium, its just not possible.

C02 can be a hassle, for your small grow you can buy c02 bags or buckets that just time release it, i recommend visiting a welding store or a brewing store and purchasing a 50 lb tank, grab a simple regulator kit and you are up, Also understand less heat means less venting, less time your co2 can blanket your plants. You will go through leaves too fast with metal halide or sodium and your plants will have to waste sugar replacing them.

if you grow in a greenhouse like hurb you should have c02 generators as they are the most cost effective way to get endless co2.

If you are interested in purchasing a LED or asking more questions , you can PM Me, i am an authorized lumigrow and california lightworks dealer. ( Top 2 LED's in US )