300

[daasgoot]

Last 300 kills recorded for both azrael and holocaust.

Before you believe the constant bullshit propaganda spewing from holocaust on the daily.. check the facts.

holocaust claims AZ just griefing lowbie guilds and players off the box. The numbers show Azrael's intentions are clear. However, Holocaust seems to be farming their YT off <fresh> and un-guilded up and comers.

I heard Azrael is recruiting pvp'rs.

http://i.imgur.com/1zUVBie.png

http://i.imgur.com/bCt4M7t.png

[Colgate]

holocaust has fun casual pvp against guilds like fresh throughout the game world

azrael likes to do things like show up to their planar clears, kill them, and corpse camp them

[Jib]

wheres the chart for levels and gear

[Jib]

am I the only one that cares about quality?

gloating about number of kills is embarassing.

get on my level

[Jimmybones]

This graph does not show the legions of low level azrael alts with fungis and rogue epics who sit in crushbone, mm and unrest trying to kill any player that has a red name even if said player has no gear.

[Andis]

great analysis dasgoot

that knowledge tho..

[daasgoot]

am I the only one that cares about quality?

gloating about number of kills is embarassing.

get on my level

maybe re-read OP.

not gloating about number of kills as i am displaying the last 300 kills for both guilds.

[Nirgon]

With the way Azrael talks you'd think it would be like 100x as many kills

Some pvp guild right

[krazyGlue]

holocaust has fun casual pvp against guilds like fresh throughout the game world

azrael likes to do things like show up to their planar clears, kill them, and corpse camp them

I didn't know you can corpse camp someone when lns is in place ... :D

[daasgoot]

With the way Azrael talks you'd think it would be like 100x as many kills

Some pvp guild right

again, only displaying the last 300 kills recorded for both holocaust and azrael. the number of kills being displayed is even.

[Colgate]

there's a reason why fresh dislikes azrael and not holocaust

[Jib]

maybe re-read OP.

not gloating about number of kills as i am displaying the last 300 kills for both guilds.

oh i see, i didnt need to re-read it i just needed to actually read it, i just figured thats what it was based on what the community has been spewing the past history this server has existed.

[krazyGlue]

there's a reason why fresh dislikes azrael and not holocaust

It has nothing to do with their psychopath leader filling them with the same very propaganda and bullshit you speak . Oh and btw 90% of my recent recruits came from fresh . Try again

[Jib]

doesnt matter, first loss lite will disappear, or first win loots will go to sektor, either way guild will crumble.

[krazyGlue]

doesnt matter, first loss lite will disappear, or first win loots will go to sektor, either way guild will crumble.
Azrael is the longest lasting high end pvp guild on the server . I doubt a bunch of zerging blue rerolls are going to make us "crumble"

[Jib]

first of all, azreal isnt a guild

second of all, its broken up over 40 times.

<full retard> was its best era, the name reflected the leadership perfectly.

god damn sickpuppy you are such a fucking retard. even your voice you just sound like you are retarded.

[daasgoot]

first of all, azreal isnt a guild

second of all, its broken up over 40 times.

<full retard> was its best era, the name reflected the leadership perfectly.

god damn sickpuppy you are such a fucking retard. even your voice you just sound like you are retarded.

the rustle is real.

[Ragnaros]

Holo 50-80 kills on Azrael, Azrael 200+ kills on Holo
Sounds about right

[sealer]

first of all, azreal isnt a guild

second of all, its broken up over 40 times.

<full retard> was its best era, the name reflected the leadership perfectly.

god damn sickpuppy you are such a fucking retard. even your voice you just sound like you are retarded.

that retard make 200k driving a train lol

[Jib]

the rustle is real.

thinking about hearing him talk does rustle me. his voice is so god damn annoying. the shit he spews out is so retarded i just cant stand it. he either has down syndrome, lead poisoning, or some kind of mental retardation.

[sealer]

thinking about hearing him talk does rustle me. his voice is so god damn annoying. the shit he spews out is so retarded i just cant stand it. he either has down syndrome, lead poisoning, or some kind of mental retardation.

we were poor when we were young we use to eat lead chips but sold all these fungis now am rich dawg

[krazyGlue]

thinking about hearing him talk does rustle me. his voice is so god damn annoying. the shit he spews out is so retarded i just cant stand it. he either has down syndrome, lead poisoning, or some kind of mental retardation.

Says the 40 year old college student

[Origin]

Nice work detective faggot

[Jib]

we were poor when we were young we use to eat lead chips but sold all these fungis now am rich dawg

i sense absolutely no sarcasm

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

Thread really picked up

[krazyGlue]

i sense absolutely no sarcasm

App denied

[Jib]

Says the 40 year old college student

27 and tomorrow ill be 28.

says the retard high school drop out

[Eslade]

i sense absolutely no sarcasm

http://cdn.womensunitedonline.com/sheknows.ca/article-downloads/autism_infographic.jpg

[krazyGlue]

27 and tomorrow ill be 28.

says the retard high school drop out

How old are the 18 other personalitys you have ?

[Jib]

How old are the 18 other personalitys you have ?

piglet is 7

orran is 59

peanutbutter is 14

curious is 31 1/2

[JudgementRed]

Last 300 kills recorded for both azrael and holocaust.

Before you believe the constant bullshit propaganda spewing from holocaust on the daily.. check the facts.

holocaust claims AZ just griefing lowbie guilds and players off the box. The numbers show Azrael's intentions are clear. However, Holocaust seems to be farming their YT off <fresh> and un-guilded up and comers.

I heard Azrael is recruiting pvp'rs.

http://i.imgur.com/1zUVBie.png

http://i.imgur.com/bCt4M7t.png


Nice bullshit attempt to manipulate stats.. but you forgot to include Azrael's multiple finger-guilds (Albanian Dance Floor Massacre, Burning Trees, Antarticia Polymorphic Pricks, and etc. )

Why don't you at least make an honest attempt to show us the truth DasFaggotFudgingDaNumbers?

[Eslade]

Nice bullshit attempt to manipulate stats.. but you forgot to include Azrael's multiple finger-guilds (Albanian Dance Floor Massacre, Burning Trees, Antarticia Polymorphic Pricks, and etc. )

Why don't you at least make an honest attempt to show us the truth DasFaggotFudgingDaNumbers?

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-D_3rLRkt52A/T60tONn_BMI/AAAAAAAAClY/yKz2la7HS84/s1600/rustled-full-on.png

[maverixdamighty]

Nice bullshit attempt to manipulate stats.. but you forgot to include Azrael's multiple finger-guilds (Albanian Dance Floor Massacre, Burning Trees, Antarticia Polymorphic Pricks, and etc. )

Why don't you at least make an honest attempt to show us the truth DasFaggotFudgingDaNumbers?

do the analysis yourself if you even can figure out how.

[daasgoot]

Nice bullshit attempt to manipulate stats.. but you forgot to include Azrael's multiple finger-guilds (Albanian Dance Floor Massacre, Burning Trees, Antarticia Polymorphic Pricks, and etc. )

Why don't you at least make an honest attempt to show us the truth DasFaggotFudgingDaNumbers?

ill just pull the first page on each of the guilds mentioned for times sake.

Albanian Dance Floor Massacre: last 30 kills

holo: 23
fresh: 2
angry wolves(holocaust alt guild): 4
dungeon fever: 1

Antarctica The Polymorphess: last 30 kills

angry wolves: 1
antartica the ply: 2
fresh: 4
GW: 2
Holo: 18
unguilded: 3

Burning Trees: last 30 kills

angry wolvs: 1
EL: 1
Fresh: 3
GW: 3
Holo: 12
unguilded: 10





NEXT

[Jib]

can we get a who killed who with class and level for each one?

[daasgoot]

can we get a who killed who with class and level for each one?

naw

[vouss]

NEXT

[Jib]

verdy verdy intredasting

[JudgementRed]

Dasgoot's "Analysis" intentionally omitted the known guilds used by Azrael to specifically hunt new to server with.... and has the intellectual honest of the following:

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lfn38bAzpD1qgczllo1_500.jpg

[daasgoot]

Dasgoot's "Analysis" intentionally omitted the known guilds used by Azrael to specifically hunt new to server with.... and has the intellectual honest of the following:

please read my response to your first post.

then please see my avatar.

[JudgementRed]

ill just pull the first page on each of the guilds mentioned for times sake.

Albanian Dance Floor Massacre: last 30 kills

holo: 23
fresh: 2
angry wolves(holocaust alt guild): 4
dungeon fever: 1

Antarctica The Polymorphess: last 30 kills

angry wolves: 1
antartica the ply: 2
fresh: 4
GW: 2
Holo: 18
unguilded: 3

Burning Trees: last 30 kills

angry wolvs: 1
EL: 1
Fresh: 3
GW: 3
Holo: 12
unguilded: 10





NEXT

Why not expand it out to the last 300 like all the others... instead of the last 30?

[vouss]

why not take a look for yourself?

http://r99pvp.com/showguild.php?g=Antarctica+The+Polymorphess&ks=3

NEXT

[daasgoot]

Why not expand it out to the last 300 like all the others... instead of the last 30?

are you retarded?

[JudgementRed]

Highlighted it since you clearly can't bring yourself to add in the correct number of last kills.

[QUOTE=daasgoot;1727576]Last 300 kills recorded for both azrael and holocaust.

Before you believe the constant bullshit propaganda spewing from holocaust on the daily.. check the facts.

holocaust claims AZ just griefing lowbie guilds and players off the box. The numbers show Azrael's intentions are clear. However, Holocaust seems to be farming their YT off <fresh> and un-guilded up and comers.

The simple addition of Smallmee's kills alone will blow the fucking lid off your bullshit propaganda attempt.

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

I'd give it up pal, it's kind of a stretch.

[JudgementRed]

I'd give it up pal, it's kind of a stretch.

No .. fuck that!

http://r99pvp.com/showplayer.php?p=Smallmee


Dasgoot won't even dare to recalculate that same spreadsheet and this time just add in Smallmee's kills + Azrael's.

We all know Smallmee is Lite.

[Buhbuh]

I realized when I clicked this thread that I didn't care but clicked anyway.

It's a sickness.

[billhollins]

the rustle is real.

Rustled or intellegent white knight putting toxic basement dwellers in their place?

[Nirgon]

255 int, white as an air elemental

pras

[JudgementRed]

http://r99pvp.com/showplayer.php?p=Smallmee


Waiting for Dasgoot to simply recalculate that same spreadsheet and simply add in Smallmee's kills + Azrael's. We all know Smallmee is Lite.

https://31.media.tumblr.com/0a7344d98b4366c21adcaa4547a3f2ba/tumblr_inline_nc09ga2AAO1rt6qr4.gif

[Colgate]

naw smallmee is dacbane aka fecal

[LulzSect]

https://38.media.tumblr.com/4561f2ea4134823c29a21fac80eaad5a/tumblr_mipb2m1BAA1qg4blro2_500.gif

[JudgementRed]

http://r99pvp.com/showplayer.php?p=Smallmee

Recalculate that same spreadsheet and this time simply add in Smallmee's kills + Azrael's.


That's your cue to show us the truth, Dasgoot... Your move.



http://i.imgur.com/nJnOgo4.gif

[Doors]

Azrael is the longest lasting high end pvp guild on the server.

You guys have barely been around a month, maybe less. Azrael falls apart every few months and disbands. Get good nerd.

[vouss]

Azrael never left dawg

[Doors]

Azrael never left dawg

Lite was on the forums calling it quits, wasn't his first time doing that either.

NEXT.

[Pikrib]

No .. fuck that!

http://r99pvp.com/showplayer.php?p=Smallmee


Dasgoot won't even dare to recalculate that same spreadsheet and this time just add in Smallmee's kills + Azrael's.

We all know Smallmee is Lite.

Chortled

http://r99pvp.com/showplayer.php?p=Smallmee


Waiting for Dasgoot to simply recalculate that same spreadsheet and simply add in Smallmee's kills + Azrael's. We all know Smallmee is Lite.

https://31.media.tumblr.com/0a7344d98b4366c21adcaa4547a3f2ba/tumblr_inline_nc09ga2AAO1rt6qr4.gif


Re-chortled

[Pseudechis]

maybe re-read OP.

not gloating about number of kills as i am displaying the last 300 kills for both guilds.

Do for last 1000 hardly think last 300 is a representative sample.

[vouss]

Lite was on the forums calling it quits, wasn't his first time doing that either.

NEXT.


Beastagor was in game saying otherwise

NEXT

[dustysr06]

azrael only been back for a couple weeks after a what, 2-3 month break?

I still love the holo finger pointing after inviting the most prolific 'griefers' on the server to their guild

face it bros, both guilds have some less desirables with the tag- Holo just has way more

[Jib]

thread got boring real fast

[red99]

others care what you think is boring, please tell us more




i bet when you start rambling at the grocery store, crowds of people just gather around you to listen to your amazing ideas


jib so smart, wow

he keeps saying it on red99 forums, must be true

[Jib]

I'm a genius, a scholar, and a hero

[LostCause]

jib quit about 10 times now.


also been in bout 7 guilds.

[JudgementRed]

http://r99pvp.com/showplayer.php?p=Smallmee


Dasspreadsheet Nerd still refuses to recalculate and simply add in Smallmee's last 300 kills to Azrael's last 300?


http://i.imgur.com/SAavfY8.gif

Azrafailed.

[Xantille]

nice spreadsheet

[Eslade]

http://r99pvp.com/showplayer.php?p=Smallmee


Dasspreadsheet Nerd still refuses to recalculate and simply add in Smallmee's last 300 kills to Azrael's last 300?


http://i.imgur.com/SAavfY8.gif

Azrafailed.

if it's something that you're so passionate about, why not do it yourself?

[Pikrib]

Who is judgmentRed and Y is he so angry?

You know bud if you want something done you could always do it yourself.

Stop the QQ and go crunch some numbers.

[JudgementRed]

The turd OP attempted to lie via intentional omission.


I want the satisfaction of forcing Dasgoot to post the truth himself.... for truth's sake.

[Pikrib]

The turd OP attempted to lie via intentional omission.


I want the satisfaction of forcing Dasgoot to post the truth himself.... for truth's sake.

Yur just lazy or too stupid to do it yourself. If you want to disprove someone elses data then get your own data.

[Akalakamelee]

The turd OP attempted to lie via intentional omission.


I want the satisfaction of forcing Dasgoot to post the truth himself.... for truth's sake.

If I gave a shit I would do it myself, but I dont.
admit it, your being lazy. You want OP to do the work for you so you can say "see told you so, hur hur".
if you wanna throw it in their face that bad, do the work.

[Akalakamelee]

Yur just lazy or too stupid to do it yourself. If you want to disprove someone elses data then get your own data.

Beat me to it, lolz

[JudgementRed]

Who is pushing "constant bullshit propaganda" exactly? I don't see anyone from holocaust busting out intentionally rigged spreadsheets to hide the truth about Smallmee and other AZ grief toons.

Last 300 kills recorded for both azrael and holocaust.

Before you believe the constant bullshit propaganda spewing from holocaust on the daily.. check the facts.

holocaust claims AZ just griefing lowbie guilds and players off the box. The numbers show Azrael's intentions are clear. However, Holocaust seems to be farming their YT off <fresh> and un-guilded up and comers.

I heard Azrael is recruiting pvp'rs.

http://i.imgur.com/1zUVBie.png

http://i.imgur.com/bCt4M7t.png



Show us the truth Dasgoot ... and add Smallmee's last 300 kills to Azrael's last 300.

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

add smellmees numbers u faggits n unskew the poles

http://i.imgur.com/qWVdxrO.jpg

[JudgementRed]

http://i.imgur.com/qWVdxrO.jpg

Is that PKRIB with a haircut?


http://i.imgur.com/vSdcdRC.jpg

[Pikrib]

Beat me to it, lolz


I wonder when JudgmentRed will start using all caps in his posts. Today or tomorrow i'm guessin.

[Pikrib]

Is that PKRIB with a haircut?


http://i.imgur.com/vSdcdRC.jpg

Damn kinda looks like me don't it.

[JudgementRed]

I'll ask again Dasgoot...

Add Smallmee's last 300 kills recorded to Azrael's.

http://r99pvp.com/showplayer.php?p=Smallmee


Last 300 kills recorded for both azrael and holocaust.

Before you believe the constant bullshit propaganda spewing from holocaust on the daily.. check the facts.

holocaust claims AZ just griefing lowbie guilds and players off the box. The numbers show Azrael's intentions are clear. However, Holocaust seems to be farming their YT off <fresh> and un-guilded up and comers.

I heard Azrael is recruiting pvp'rs.

http://i.imgur.com/1zUVBie.png

http://i.imgur.com/bCt4M7t.png

[Eslade]

Dat rustle tho.

[vouss]

NEXT

[daasgoot]

I'll ask again Dasgoot...

Add Smallmee's last 300 kills recorded to Azrael's.

http://r99pvp.com/showplayer.php?p=Smallmee

I am truly sorry for your rustle sir. I didn't realize this thread would make someone go full retard, which I would never wish on anyone.

if you can give me a complete list of every single Azrael and Holocaust ALT, i will make a separate data set for comparison.

[Eslade]

http://www.project1999.com/forums/image.php?u=111738&dateline=1417486597

[JudgementRed]

I am just looking for the actual truth which you claimed to be posting initially.

For some reason you won't add in known <Azrael> alts.

[Nirgon]

Pretty easy to figure it out for yourself in game

[Pikrib]

We all know Smallmee is Lite.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0fBiCNiR1E

[Eslade]

http://media20.giphy.com/media/10DMIvuMgAhW9O/giphy.gif?w=320

[maverixdamighty]

Pretty easy to figure it out for yourself in game

like this guy did only to be called a troll?

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=176273

[Nirgon]

Yeah sure, he's entitled to his own opinion

Dats all I'm sayin'... figure it out for yourself... most of us here at least have the ability to observe

[maverixdamighty]

Yeah sure, he's entitled to his own opinion

Dats all I'm sayin'... figure it out for yourself... most of us here at least have the ability to observe

fair enough.

[daasgoot]

I am just looking for the actual truth which you claimed to be posting initially.

For some reason you won't add in known <Azrael> alts.

so, you want me to cherry pick azrael alts that are not guilded azrael and add them to the data, but not holocaust alts?

not sure if srs or dumb.

as stated before, if you can give me a complete listing of azrael and holocaust alts i will create another report for comparison.

[mr.miketastic]

Lol, the fact that people are arguing over a leaderboard is kind of funny in a way. Instaed of enjoying the game, we have people who are absolutely obsessed with racking up kills and it doesn't seem to be a whole lot of fun, which is one of the reasons I play the game; It's supposed to be fun.

[daasgoot]

Lol, the fact that people are arguing over a leaderboard is kind of funny in a way. Instaed of enjoying the game, we have people who are absolutely obsessed with racking up kills and it doesn't seem to be a whole lot of fun, which is one of the reasons I play the game; It's supposed to be fun.

nobody is arguing over the leaderboard, the point was to use the leaderboard as a tool to show all the claims that azrael runs around farming noobs and griefing them off the server is a load of shit. Holo kills more <fresh> and unguilded players than az does.



maybe the "argument" u are referring to is this crazy guy demanding i add just smallmee to azraels data set.. guy obv retard.

[Eslade]

at the very least you have to admit that holocaust sanctions more griefing to people that are unguilded or in smaller guilds than azrael.

[mr.miketastic]

Yep Gongshow= Mikehunt/Bakingsoda

[HippoNipple]

at the very least you have to admit that holocaust sanctions more griefing to people that are unguilded or in smaller guilds than azrael.

Holocaust has people from level 46-60. Azrael only has level 60's tagged with the rest in alt guilds.

Are people really making charts in their free time showing why characters tagged Azrael aren't attacking people level 55 and below outside of them hovering around guilds fear/hate trash clears?

[HippoNipple]

Don't know why I quoted Eslade, just reading his comment reiterated why people arguing over this are stupid.

[Eslade]

dunno why you'd argue about numbers. tell us how 2+2 doesn't add up to 4.

[Nirgon]

Yep Gongshow= Mikehunt/Bakingsoda

Bakingsoda YT'd someone while Gongshow was in KC

Unless he's boxing lvl 5 pvp while leading raids..

[Crazycloud]

Bakingsoda YT'd someone while Gongshow was in KC

Unless he's boxing lvl 5 pvp while leading raids..

This is possible my friend.

[Gongshow]

http://cdn.doandroidsdance.com/assets/2014/12/coco-whip.gif

[Pseudechis]

dunno why you'd argue about numbers. tell us how 2+2 doesn't add up to 4.

To be accurate domingueros, slosh, Antarctica, circle of tyrants, gods work and Albanian should be combined with azrael's totals and visa Vera for holos kills of azrael.

as mentioned earlier, the last week is not a great period for sampling as it hasn't been a typical pvp week for the server. So the sample should be the last 1000 on each side.

if most of the holo vs fresh pvp is genuine lower level scraps then that is healthy for the server and representative that holo is engaging in pvp. The fact that there has been this amount between fresh and holo and no accusations of griefing by either side suggests he pvp was on even grounds and both parties enjoyed it.

This whole post also kind of debunks the myth that holo does not pvp....,

[Bazia]

holo often immediately camp and or gate when I enter a zone unless there is 3 or more

if I'm with another azrael member usually an entire group will port out or camp

[Bazia]

Seeing groups of 6+ camp immediately from me and another random azrael guy in the hole the past week has been hilarious

[heartbrand]

holo often immediately camp and or gate when I enter a zone unless there is 3 or more

if I'm with another azrael member usually an entire group will port out or camp

i will 1v1 u

[daasgoot]

This whole post also kind of debunks the myth that holo does not pvp....,

i pulled last 300 kills, not how long it took to get to 300 kills. that would be a different set of data with a different result.

[Pseudechis]

Seeing groups of 6+ camp immediately from me and another random azrael guy in the hole the past week has been hilarious

Yeh those exp groups are mid 50 alts all out of range to you keckeon with perhaps one person or at most two in range.

So basically you have the advantage if there are 2 of you and given resists atm probably in a 1v1 too. If a group chooses to leave rather than gift you gratuitous yt.....that is bad play?

[Biaxil]

With the way Azrael talks you'd think it would be like 100x as many kills

Some pvp guild right

Maybe they think dragons are players???

[Dis_Still_Mornin]

seems to be a lot of science here and I just don't know if I can believe something involving "facts" and "data"

[daasgoot]

Azrael recruiting pvp'rs, join today if you would enjoy regularly shitting on holocaust in pvp.

[mr.miketastic]

Azrael recruiting pvp'rs, join today if you would enjoy regularly shitting on holocaust in pvp.

There's an old saying about winning the battles, yet losing the war?

[daasgoot]

There's an old saying about winning the battles, yet losing the war?

app denied. looking for PVP'rs only.

[Nirgon]

Looking for people who cannot read and win servers

[Eslade]

Looking for people who cannot read and win servers

I don't think that sentence means what you want it to mean.

[mr.miketastic]

app denied. looking for PVP'rs only.

'tis a shame. I was so looking forward to morphing into a douchey griefer. Alas.

[daasgoot]

'tis a shame. I was so looking forward to morphing into a douchey griefer. Alas.

is that like a holocaust slogan?

"PVP is douchey grief!"

the numbers have already shown holo kills a higher % of fresh/unguilded than AZ does.

[Nirgon]

Okay and what's Fresh's opinion again regarding the two factions?

Oh ok.

Kill more, grief less.

[Pseudechis]

is that like a holocaust slogan?

"PVP is douchey grief!"

the numbers have already shown holo kills a higher % of fresh/unguilded than AZ does.

Hang on a second in the other thread holo is blue or scum who avoid pvp here we are participating in more pvp get your stories straight eh

[Pikrib]

Hang on a second in the other thread holo is blue or scum who avoid pvp here we are participating in more pvp get your stories straight eh

They avoid pvp with Azrael. They love griefing newbies.

[daasgoot]

Hang on a second in the other thread holo is blue or scum who avoid pvp here we are participating in more pvp get your stories straight eh

reading comprehension.

[Nirgon]

Fresh likes us

We take raid targets, come try to pvp us

The matter is settled

[HippoNipple]

Love how Azrael thinks Holo cares. Azrael devoting all playtime around what Holocaust is doing. Azrael definitely an after thought to everyone else on server.

Make more charts nerds.

[daasgoot]

Okay and what's Fresh's opinion again regarding the two factions?

Oh ok.

Kill more, grief less.

isn't fresh's leader a guy that de-lvl'd an epic warrior to kill noobs in MM?

also a guy that was in Nihi and doesn't like azrael.

sheesh, i wonder why some fresh guys don't like AZ.. probably has nothing to do with what their leader says to them.

just had some fresh PVPr's join AZ the other day though.. not all freshie's are brainwashed.

[Pseudechis]

They avoid pvp with Azrael. They love griefing newbies.

Azrael and it's affiliated multiple guild tags still add up to nearly 50% of the last 300 kills in a highly skewed statistical analysis......hardly avoiding pvp with azrael.

But this whole thread is polar opposite to others saying holo is bluebie scum who don't pvp..... This threads sole purpose is to promote that we do pvp and we are griefers as well even though by your own definition pvp is not griefing.

You guys are all over the shop and clutching at the propaganda straws now.....

[HippoNipple]

isn't fresh's leader a guy that de-lvl'd an epic warrior to kill noobs in MM?

also a guy that was in Nihi and doesn't like azrael.

sheesh, i wonder why some fresh guys don't like AZ.. probably has nothing to do with what their leader says to them.

just had some fresh PVPr's join AZ the other day though.. not all freshie's are brainwashed.

Look forward to seeing them develop and come full circle as they become "brainwashed" and head to another guild.

[mr.miketastic]

is that like a holocaust slogan?

"PVP is douchey grief!"

the numbers have already shown holo kills a higher % of fresh/unguilded than AZ does.

So funny story...
I'm not guilded. PvP is not grief. I love pvp. Griefing is going out of your way to fuck over someone. Ya know, like, using your twinked alts to destroy newbs in CB for instance?
Fuck Azrael. I do like what holo and fresh are doing though. Can you not see that the more people that play here, the more pvp that will occur?

[Eslade]

Azrael and it's affiliated multiple guild tags still add up to nearly 50% of the last 300 kills in a highly skewed statistical analysis......hardly avoiding pvp with azrael.

But this whole thread is polar opposite to others saying holo is bluebie scum who don't pvp..... This threads sole purpose is to promote that we do pvp and we are griefers as well even though by your own definition pvp is not griefing.

You guys are all over the shop and clutching at the propaganda straws now.....

http://www.onlinegriefsupport.com
I hope this helps with the butt hurt.

[daasgoot]

So funny story...
I'm not guilded. PvP is not grief. I love pvp. Griefing is going out of your way to fuck over someone. Ya know, like, using your twinked alts to destroy newbs in CB for instance?
Fuck Azrael. I do like what holo and fresh are doing though. Can you not see that the more people that play here, the more pvp that will occur?

you are retarded if think holocaust doesn't have any twinked alts they kill lower lvl people with.

lmao

[Nirgon]

isn't fresh's leader a guy that de-lvl'd an epic warrior to kill noobs in MM?


It is really up to you to change. I hope the Big Tuna stays with his non-toxic ways.

Btw you guys are the ones that pushed him into doing it if I recall correctly?

[Eslade]

why? because nobody wanted to take him and his constant whining about his lost fungi tunic?

[Nirgon]

Ya but 200 people joined him

go figure

[derpcake]

He seems to have a lot of pals now.

[mr.miketastic]

you are retarded if think holocaust doesn't have any twinked alts they kill lower lvl people with.

lmao

yep. I had a good conversation with one the other day actually. We were discussing how he could easily be taken down if the newbs would only get together and go after him. I think the point he had was that it's a good lesson to get people to get their pvp shit together (I would request he keep my name out like I kept his) :) . The most telling comment he had at one point was that he doesn't loot the people he ganks. is that grief?
I do see, however, a whole lot of BS coming from Azrael, and I'm pretty sure their motivation isn't to get newbs motivated and educated. No, Azrael wants uncontested, exclusive pixel rights. They might be able to crow about how they are taking out Holo ET AL... and farm the yellow text, but they are failing to win the hearts and minds of the rest of the population, and driving said population into the ranks of other guilds. Just look at some of the people Azrael has in their roster. BK? really? Do you consider him to be the paragon of your guild?

[Pseudechis]

Just ran holos last 300....interesting results:

Azrael and all known affiliate guilds or players tagged or otherwise:

162

Fresh

38

Other

102

Curious

[Pseudechis]

Lim aware it adds up to 302 heh just that's where I stopped

[Eslade]

so what you have is a list of fresh, some untagged people that you don't recognize and everybody else is azrael affiliated.

those aren't skewed stats at all...

[Pseudechis]

so what you have is a list of fresh, some untagged people that you don't recognize and everybody else is azrael affiliated.

those aren't skewed stats at all...
Cabal, slosh, tribe, Albanian, azrael, domingueros, pikrib untagged, Albanian, beastagor...etc etc saying these are not azrael affiliates?

Other included anything not azrael affiliates or fresh. Holo on holo kills, slamdunk, unguided, angry wolves etc

[Nirgon]

Try doing things other than posting graphs to change people's opinion of you in game.

my 2 cp

- da doc

[Eslade]

never met any of those people ever.

[Pseudechis]

Interesting though if you merge all azrael's affiliates in goots assessment you pretty much have same result 50% of holos kills come from azrael and it's allies. This whole thread debunks the myth that 1. Holo doesn't pvp & 2. Holo avoids pvp with azrael.

[Nirgon]

You shoulda seen how happy Fresh was when we helped them CR.

These good feelings can be yours too.

Or just keep up the cycle of hating others than hating each other/yourselves when we band together on you.

[Pikrib]

Cabal, slosh, tribe, Albanian, azrael, domingueros, pikrib untagged, Albanian, beastagor...etc etc saying these are not azrael affiliates?

Other included anything not azrael affiliates or fresh. Holo on holo kills, slamdunk, unguided, angry wolves etc

Remove:
Cabal and Prophets

[Buhbuh]

Your mom is removed.

[HippoNipple]

Remove:
Cabal and Prophets

Also add Holocaust to the Azrael alt list since they have some of the sickest and highest play time players on server and raid with Holocaust when not crying about Holocaust on their Azrael chars.

[mrproudbeard]

FQ has entered spreadsheet creation territory... holy shit the sickness is real.

dasgoot == elderan? Seems to have the same grasp on statistical analysis.

[Pikrib]

You shoulda seen how happy Fresh was when we helped them CR.

These good feelings can be yours too.

Or just keep up the cycle of hating others than hating each other/yourselves when we band together on you.

I was fucking estatic when you guys showed up to help CR in hate.

http://i.imgur.com/edgCdGd.png

Yup nothing but good feelings...


:D

[Colgate]

I was fucking estatic when you guys showed up to help CR in hate.

http://i.imgur.com/edgCdGd.png

Yup nothing but good feelings...


:D

told him not to do that

had problems with scenarios like that before; i remember when azrael/eternal light teamed up to fight us in KC and they called LNS, kecleon had a few of them mezzed outside of KC and refused to let them leave until one of them asked me to tell him to stop

[Crazycloud]

told him not to do that

had problems with scenarios like that before; i remember when azrael/eternal light teamed up to fight us in KC and they called LNS, kecleon had a few of them mezzed outside of KC and refused to let them leave until one of them asked me to tell him to stop

True story, I myself honestly didn't like letting you guys LnS just because large amount of yall plugged but LnS rules are LnS rules.

Kec just likes griefing aka reducing population.

[Pikrib]

told him not to do that

had problems with scenarios like that before; i remember when azrael/eternal light teamed up to fight us in KC and they called LNS, kecleon had a few of them mezzed outside of KC and refused to let them leave until one of them asked me to tell him to stop

I was laughing in TS.



I probably deserve to take a few deaths for my horrible FQ persona.

[Eslade]

FQ has entered spreadsheet creation territory... holy shit the sickness is real.

dasgoot == elderan? Seems to have the same grasp on statistical analysis.

http://i.imgur.com/lYQDv0V.jpg

[daasgoot]

Just ran holos last 300....interesting results:

Azrael and all known affiliate guilds or players tagged or otherwise:

162

Fresh

38

Other

102

Curious

if you are going to add affiliates to holocaust kills, then you also have to add holocaust affiliates kills.

you sir are the one skewing the statistics.

i pulled only holocaust and azrael stats for a reason.

unless someone can provide a 100% accurate list of all guilds and all charectors(guilded or not) that have any affiliation with either guild or are played by someone within one of those guilds then your numbers mean nothing.

[Nirgon]

Need a 6v1 trash talk to 20v25 QQ graph

[Pikrib]

True story, I myself honestly didn't like letting you guys LnS just because large amount of yall plugged but LnS rules are LnS rules.

Kec just likes griefing aka reducing population.

Take another look at my screenshot...

[mrproudbeard]

http://i.imgur.com/lYQDv0V.jpg

Making a spreadsheet to try to show how your guild is winning based on some arbitrary numbers and definition of what "winning" is: Not Butthurt.

Responding to thread pointing out dubious statistical analysis: Butthurt.

I think I understand now, thanks.

[daasgoot]

Cabal, slosh, tribe, Albanian, azrael, domingueros, pikrib untagged, Albanian, beastagor...etc etc saying these are not azrael affiliates?

Other included anything not azrael affiliates or fresh. Holo on holo kills, slamdunk, unguided, angry wolves etc

by your standard fresh kills would need to be added to holocausts kills list, fresh is allied with holocaust therefore an affiliate and must be added to holocausts numbers.

Angry wolves has holocausts alts in it, so add them too.

also, i know of atleast 1 person for sure from holocaust that has an alt that plays in redrum, so add those.

also any other guild with holocaust alts, and also u need to find out every single holocaust alt that is unguilded and add them to the stats.


good luck.

[HippoNipple]

by your standard fresh kills would need to be added to holocausts kills list, fresh is allied with holocaust therefore an affiliate and must be added to holocausts numbers.

Angry wolves has holocausts alts in it, so add them too.

also, i know of atleast 1 person for sure from holocaust that has an alt that plays in redrum, so add those.

also any other guild with holocaust alts, and also u need to find out every single holocaust alt that is unguilded and add them to the stats.


good luck.

Go make a new chart nerd.

[SamwiseRed]

Azrael detags before pvp death so this chart is meaningless

[Crazycloud]

Azrael detags before pvp death so this chart is meaningless

[Nirgon]

or harm touches themselves w/e

really WHO cares

People in game know things like: Azrael is toxic and who the actually good pvpers are

[Colgate]

yaw everyone knew i was a god of everquest before any of these leaderboards existed

[Eslade]

all anybody has to do is look at what has happened to a holocaust member when they quit the guild to see that shit ain't all sunshine and rainbows.

maybe just rainbows.
symbol of homos.
lol

[mrproudbeard]

Heh, I only had math reasons why that chart was bogus. Rad to see non-math reasons why it's also garbage!

dasgoot... here's some tips to make your data better. This is not a comprehensive list.

Use a time range instead of a hard "300 kills" because that's way more apples-to-apples than what you did.

Graph all guilds in a single graph and use a grouped bar chart. You can set some lower bounds to make this not super crazy, like only guilds that have > 20 kills and/or deaths in the time range, or whatever lower bound makes sense to be able to actually compare the data without the chart getting too dense. This would allow real data comparison to happen.

Since there are allegations of dropping tag to avoid leaderboard hits or something... you probably need a bit of data scrubbing to make sure people who do that get grouped into the correct guild for every kill/death instance. A fun side statistic would be a count of occurrences where someone dropped tag for a death and then was back in the guild later. See which guilds are most guilty of this because that seems like good FQ material to me!

That all sounds like a lot of work though, so sticking with this totally worthless narrative is probably more time effective for you. Math abuse makes me sad.

[Dacuk]

isn't fresh's leader a guy that de-lvl'd an epic warrior to kill noobs in MM?

also a guy that was in Nihi and doesn't like azrael.

sheesh, i wonder why some fresh guys don't like AZ.. probably has nothing to do with what their leader says to them.
.


QFT. love also how colgate cares so much about zerging that he allies with the guy who posted his RL info on craigslist. he obviously doesnt care about bringing RL into the game.. OH WAIT....

[mr.miketastic]

Making a spreadsheet to try to show how your guild is winning based on some arbitrary numbers and definition of what "winning" is: Not Butthurt.

Responding to thread pointing out dubious statistical analysis: Butthurt.

I think I understand now, thanks.

How to lie with statistics. The false population size. Azrael is just irrelevant at this point. Nothing more than a nuisance.

[mr.miketastic]

all anybody has to do is look at what has happened to a holocaust member when they quit the guild to see that shit ain't all sunshine and rainbows.

maybe just rainbows.
symbol of homos.
lol

If you're referring to BK, I'm pretty sure you're an idiot. BK is a poltroon, and only lowers the prestige of a guild.

[daasgoot]

Heh, I only had math reasons why that chart was bogus. Rad to see non-math reasons why it's also garbage!

dasgoot... here's some tips to make your data better. This is not a comprehensive list.

Use a time range instead of a hard "300 kills" because that's way more apples-to-apples than what you did.

Graph all guilds in a single graph and use a grouped bar chart. You can set some lower bounds to make this not super crazy, like only guilds that have > 20 kills and/or deaths in the time range, or whatever lower bound makes sense to be able to actually compare the data without the chart getting too dense. This would allow real data comparison to happen.

Since there are allegations of dropping tag to avoid leaderboard hits or something... you probably need a bit of data scrubbing to make sure people who do that get grouped into the correct guild for every kill/death instance. A fun side statistic would be a count of occurrences where someone dropped tag for a death and then was back in the guild later. See which guilds are most guilty of this because that seems like good FQ material to me!

That all sounds like a lot of work though, so sticking with this totally worthless narrative is probably more time effective for you. Math abuse makes me sad.

lol

why would a time range be more "apples to apples"

it was a direct comparison between holocaust's and azrael's last 300 kills allocated by guild.

think u might be a retard.

[Colgate]

QFT. love also how colgate cares so much about zerging that he allies with the guy who posted his RL info on craigslist. he obviously doesnt care about bringing RL into the game.. OH WAIT....

don't personally like tunak but fresh is good for the server's health

azrael is not

real gr8 seeing azrael go from 35 online last sunday to 8 online this sunday

let's chalk this up as another failed iteration of azrael

[HippoNipple]

Pretty much sums up Azrael's way of thinking. A guild leader doesn't have to make every decision based on greed, revenge or hatred.

No motivation or long term goals on server besides being toxic and crying for approval from fellow guildies. Sad existence.

[daasgoot]

QUICK UPDATE!!!!!

pras azrael. increasing pop, while holo shits on fresh/unguilded ppl.

here is a quick look at the last 600 kills for both holo and az.

<AZRAEL> KILL ALLOCATION
http://i.imgur.com/tHzNXXR.png


<HOLOCAUST> KILL ALLOCATION
http://i.imgur.com/ddFyiCy.png

[Dacuk]

im curious how that would look normalized based on member count. too lazy to do.

[Kergan]

This is literally the worst presentation of data I've ever seen. If someone who worked me me came up with this I'd fire them on the spot.

[daasgoot]

This is literally the worst presentation of data I've ever seen. If someone who worked me me came up with this I'd fire them on the spot.

damnit.. just submitted this data to my boss, im fucked.

lol, such a retard.

[vouss]

I like to play everquest likes it my job

[Nirgon]

How can you be helping when none of you are online

?

[daasgoot]

How can you be helping when none of you are online

?

that part was a troll.

but numbers speak louder than words.. (is that a saying?)

[Samaritan]

Considering that most of Azrael's "raids" include sniping off stray Holo otw to their raids and camping the OT hammer boat, these numbers should not surprise anyone.

Bottom line: Holo don't hate or discriminate. We kill whoever, whenever.

[daasgoot]

Considering that most of Azrael's "raids" include sniping off stray Holo otw to their raids and camping the OT hammer boat, these numbers should not surprise anyone.

Bottom line: Holo don't hate or discriminate. We kill whoever, whenever.

spin it how you want.. but you know if the numbers were opposite holo would be on here crying about how bad azrael is for the server killin noobs.

[Kergan]

Confirmed 90% of the unguilded kills are from Azrael guildremoving before death.

NEXT

[Stalos_]

Pretty much sums up Azrael's way of thinking. A guild leader doesn't have to make every decision based on greed, revenge or hatred.

No motivation or long term goals on server besides being toxic and crying for approval from fellow guildies. Sad existence.

Shock us all and say one positive thing about the resistance. Break up the typical hippo Zerg throating posts.

[Akalakamelee]

spin it how you want.. but you know if the numbers were opposite holo would be on here crying about how bad azrael is for the server killin noobs.

^ completely true.

[gobletsmashing]

or harm touches themselves w/e

really WHO cares

People in game know things like: Azrael is toxic and who the actually good pvpers are

Optimist with full raid buffs and an epic OOR druid following people around while they're trying to level

[Akalakamelee]

Optimist with full raid buffs and an epic OOR druid following people around while they're trying to level

That's the way it is, you need to adapt to the environment.

[gobletsmashing]

That's the way it is, you need to adapt to the environment.

"People in game know things like: Azrael is toxic and who the actually good pvpers are" I was givin pras to "the good pvpers" mentioned

[gobletsmashing]

In other words - my experience has been, every guild has griefers, cheaters, and cheap shit going on. Holo, fresh, wolves, etc. Everyone wants to act like there's only guild here that does this shit.

[Akalakamelee]

In other words - my experience has been, every guild has griefers, cheaters, and cheap shit going on. Holo, fresh, wolves, etc. Everyone wants to act like there's only guild here that does this shit.

Ya, pretty much. Wolves? They still are around?

[daasgoot]

Ya, pretty much. Wolves? They still are around?

yes. consists of some new players and some twinked holo alts.