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Burgerking
12-16-2014, 01:43 PM
This video illustrates how easy it is to counter CC mechanics. The video is laggy but it shows the point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80Gh9Zd1o7Q&feature=youtu.be

Malosini applied, then blind, one dispel both gone. As fast as you can click a pumice(3 secs) it's gone. This works for any CC effect except Whirl which is OP because you're stunned and fucked. I wouldn't have even been able to land malosini on myself without malo first if I didn't drop my MR for this video.

This is why I'm not getting chain blinded/rooted and clowns are. It's a learn to play issue that doe not effect experienced PvP'ers.

HippoNipple
12-16-2014, 01:47 PM
This video illustrates how easy it is to counter CC mechanics. The video is laggy but it shows the point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80Gh9Zd1o7Q&feature=youtu.be

Malosini applied, then blind, one dispel both gone. As fast as you can click a pumice(3 secs) it's gone. This works for any CC effect except Whirl which is OP because you're stunned and fucked. I wouldn't have even been able to land malosini on myself without malo first if I didn't drop my MR for this video.

This is why I'm not getting chain blinded/rooted and clowns are. It's a learn to play issue that doe not effect experienced PvP'ers.

You should have clicked a bracer of hidden see invis on yourself first, what a shitty PvPer.

Burgerking
12-16-2014, 01:52 PM
You should have clicked a bracer of hidden see invis on yourself first, what a shitty PvPer.

I think this video illustrates what a bad player you are considering the amount of tears you shed on something so easily countered. Sad I have to teach people how to play on 15 year old elf sim.

Nirgon
12-16-2014, 02:00 PM
Very good and true

Now apply this to a 20v20 situation

Darksinga
12-16-2014, 02:01 PM
Smart player who sees you would immediately pell you as your first top two buffs are already gone. Smart thing to do would only to have the top slot open, if you get maloed, then to click off the second.

Just saying, especially with that buff set up, you're doomed for failure

Burgerking
12-16-2014, 02:08 PM
Very good and true

Now apply this to a 20v20 situation

Is it any different then 5 melee's jumping on you in a 20v20 and one rogue snare poisoning you, In my video you just got blinded in that scenario you're dead.

In any 20v20 if you're the called primary target by the opposing force, you're dead. Let's not pretend it's any different regardless of the classes jumping on you.

How about a monk T-Staff procing you, or Rogue Skean procing you, that's more acceptable then something you CAN TAKE OFF?


Smart player who sees you would immediately pell you as your first top two buffs are already gone. Smart thing to do would only to have the top slot open, if you get maloed, then to click off the second.

Just saying, especially with that buff set up, you're doomed for failure

I took off my top two slots just to make that video, I thought that was obvious, if you think that's my pvp buff setup lol just LOL.

Jib
12-16-2014, 02:08 PM
didnt know you could pell blind...

thought only cure blindness could

good to know.

SamwiseRed
12-16-2014, 02:11 PM
same actually. nice.

Crazycloud
12-16-2014, 02:14 PM
Honestly BK thinks EQ is based off of 1v1.

Yesterday i was in KC castle on my bard and there was a wizard/ench/shm/druid at the bridge waiting for me to run by, Wizard chain flux staff me, enchanter tash me, shm malos me/druid doted me by the time i ran and zoned that shit. If it wasn't for selos any other class would of been dead duo to the fact you now would of been rooted had a shit load of other debuffs to dispell before blind. Not to mention you being bashed while blind and other shit you have to take account for.

Another thing a smart player will do is Topslot your first slots with Ragefire arms/BoH/junk shit. Theres just alot of ways to prevent what you just did in a group fight.

Am i saying what you did wouldn't work in a 1v1? naaah. It def would if the player is smart. Try doing that shit with a real group on you tho.

SamwiseRed
12-16-2014, 02:18 PM
how did the druid have enough time to dot and root. druid dots take forever to cast. i can barely get a dot off when people have sow. you should have flown right past them and around the corner da fuck.

Crazycloud
12-16-2014, 02:22 PM
Who said he casted root on me? o0

SamwiseRed
12-16-2014, 02:23 PM
whoops read that wrong, my bad. not even going to edit carry on.

daasgoot
12-16-2014, 02:23 PM
how did the druid have enough time to dot and root. druid dots take forever to cast. i can barely get a dot off when people have sow. you should have flown right past them and around the corner da fuck.

he was actually running around the castle.. none of those spells would have ever landed on him had he just run straight to the ZL.

once he did decide to head for ZL he blew right past us and plugged.

Burgerking
12-16-2014, 02:23 PM
Honestly BK thinks EQ is based off of 1v1.

Yesterday i was in KC castle on my bard and there was a wizard/ench/shm/druid at the bridge waiting for me to run by, Wizard chain flux staff me, enchanter tash me, shm malos me/druid doted me by the time i ran and zoned that shit. If it wasn't for selos any other class would of been dead duo to the fact you now would of been rooted had a shit load of other debuffs to dispell before blind. Not to mention you being bashed while blind and other shit you have to take account for.

Another thing a smart player will do is Topslot your first slots with Ragefire arms/BoH/junk shit. Theres just alot of ways to prevent what you just did in a group fight.

Am i saying what you did wouldn't work in a 1v1? naaah. It def would if the player is smart. Try doing that shit with a real group on you tho.

OMFG dude so your saying you don't want the perfect gank squad to be able to kill someone 4v1. WTF kind of PvP do you want one where no one ever dies???

PvP where melee's are immune to every spell and they just need a bard in group and everyone dies to them like domino's.

SamwiseRed
12-16-2014, 02:24 PM
i would have ran into water then ran to ZL but i read his post wrong so whoops.

SamwiseRed
12-16-2014, 02:25 PM
the only people complaining are people trying to 1v5+ and live to tell the tale. are you fuckin retarded? in 20v20 it changes nothing because everyone is under the same resist system. sometimes i wonder if any of you have jacked out the matrix in over a year. yall fuckin retarded.

Burgerking
12-16-2014, 02:39 PM
the only people complaining are people trying to 1v5+ and live to tell the tale. are you fuckin retarded? in 20v20 it changes nothing because everyone is under the same resist system. sometimes i wonder if any of you have jacked out the matrix in over a year. yall fuckin retarded.

Truth is there are a shit ton of bad player's here. They are used to mindless pvp where a monk or rogue can run to a full group and just start knocking people over regardless of whats being cast on them.

Traditional pvp was strategical, caster's like enchanter's/shamans used to peel melee's off the healer's with CC effects. Without that dynamic large scale pvp becomes who has the most melee's wins, like it's been for the past 2 years.

Crazycloud
12-16-2014, 02:41 PM
OMFG dude so your saying you don't want the perfect gank squad to be able to kill someone 4v1. WTF kind of PvP do you want one where no one ever dies???

PvP where melee's are immune to every spell and they just need a bard in group and everyone dies to them like domino's.

Actually that gank squad should have a very good chance at killing someone. But a good pvper should be able to avoid death there if very well geared/buffed and a non bard. You're just in denial how easy it is to land shit while being debuffed right now. Anyone else would of been chain rooted on that bridge. Also melees can channel pumice now but what happens when channeling gets fixed for melees? how do they escape that?

You just want a ez mode box where people just chain cast blind/root and make it almost impossible to get away.

Hell we chain rooted deluxee with only tash on him hahahahhah dude should of been able to escape. Games broke baddies in denial

Nirgon
12-16-2014, 02:45 PM
Is it any different then 5 melee's jumping on you in a 20v20 and one rogue snare poisoning you, In my video you just got blinded in that scenario you're dead.


Hard to weigh which is worse, depends on the zone / situation.

Rogue poisons seem to have a very high success rate vs DMF'd targets. Not sure on DMF+ resist poison combo (120+pr) but this should equate to no rogue poisons landing without pelling/debuffs. Same with bane :).

I'm completely on board with your case that all the melees who were running in circles with auto attack on doing unmitigated damage was stupid and now they have a huge problem with balance but..

This is bad too

Fear not, shamans will still be pretty godly even without blind spam

It appears to be the last remaining major issue resist system wise

WTB: cast thru walls always (you can heal through walls..) and removal of z-axis check... maybe next major patch


20v20 Sam if someone gets rooted... the call of next target ain't far off. Further in the numbers game, the team who has just 1 extra warm body spamming roots has a massive advantage. READ: Some guy spamming a 2 sec cast that results in a nearly instant kill every time. This massively benefits Holo now as its nigh impossible to mess with our raid attempts... trying to be the bigger man here and admit it rather than serve selfish interests and defend it.

Kergan
12-16-2014, 02:52 PM
Isn't Samwise like a level 52 druid who only has shown up when his side is currently doing mobs uncontested? Same guy who makes stupid bug reports? Also a terrible player?

Just make sure I'm not confusing him with someone else.

Burgerking
12-16-2014, 02:55 PM
Actually that gank squad should have a very good chance at killing someone. But a good pvper should be able to avoid death there if very well geared/buffed and a non bard. You're just in denial how easy it is to land shit while being debuffed right now. Anyone else would of been chain rooted on that bridge. Also melees can channel pumice now but what happens when channeling gets fixed for melees? how do they escape that?

You just want a ez mode box where people just chain cast blind/root and make it almost impossible to get away.

Hell we chain rooted deluxee with only tash on him hahahahhah dude should of been able to escape. Games broke baddies in denial

I just showed you how to counter the tactic in 3 seconds, yet to you it's still some unstoppable broken thing you cant get around?

You want to live 5v1 vs the perfect gank squad, you want to fight only by a zoneline, you don;t want pvp you want to exploit the previous broken pvp system. Where a rogue would engage 5 people kill 2 and escape. There was maybe 1 rogue good enough to pull that off on live. Here every rogue was doing it.

You want debuff's scaled down so you are impervious to ever CC effect lol, it's so cringe-worthy and you dont even get it.


Hard to weigh which is worse, depends on the zone / situation.

Rogue poisons seem to have a very high success rate vs DMF'd targets. Not sure on DMF+ resist poison combo (120+pr) but this should equate to no rogue poisons landing without pelling/debuffs. Same with bane :).

I'm completely on board with your case that all the melees who were running in circles with auto attack on doing unmitigated damage was stupid and now they have a huge problem with balance but..

This is bad too

Fear not, shamans will still be pretty godly even without blind spam

It appears to be the last remaining major issue resist system wise

WTB: cast thru walls always (you can heal through walls..) and removal of z-axis check... maybe next major patch


20v20 Sam if someone gets rooted... the call of next target ain't far off. Further in the numbers game, the team who has just 1 extra warm body spamming roots has a massive advantage. READ: Some guy spamming a 2 sec cast that results in a nearly instant kill every time.

When you fail to make any logical point you resort to flaming someone, typical Nirgon. You are doing everything in your power to skew the current resist system so that your zerg setup will win and no one can even CC your raid party members.

Hmmm no CC on 40v20 which is how Holocaust likes to fight sounds PERFECT for you guys.

You want Z-Axis removed so melee's can't hit people lev'd above them lmfao, which btw wasn't classic era, you want LOS gone which LOS wasn't even added to Luclin fucking era.

Everything your fighting for is custom and doesn't resemble live pvp and keeps your zerg in power.

Kergan
12-16-2014, 03:00 PM
Just get rid of blind like charm and fear.

Crazycloud
12-16-2014, 03:01 PM
BK shows everyone how to pell blind outside of pvp news at 11. (which honestly prob helped out alot of people who didn't know blind was pellable)

But would like you to fraps that vs a real group.

CC is here to prevent BK of making EQ a WoW game wants it to be impossible for someone to escape a gank. No worries bros I'm here to prevent this scum from turnin this to WoW.
Also how dumb is BK? like is he really saying Holo will be hurt if the CC changes are fixed? Holo is actually KINGS right now because of these changes hahahaha.

Burgerking
12-16-2014, 03:01 PM
Isn't Samwise like a level 52 druid who only has shown up when his side is currently doing mobs uncontested? Same guy who makes stupid bug reports? Also a terrible player?

Just make sure I'm not confusing him with someone else.

Why are you flaming Samwise? Are you a godly pvp'er with multiple accomplishments under your belt, can you post screenshots of the numerous 1v1 kills you've acquired?

Just get rid of blind like charm and fear.

I'll agree to that if everyone else will agree to T-staff and Skean being removed, atleast blind I can remove.

Fame
12-16-2014, 03:03 PM
Isn't Samwise like a level 52 druid who only has shown up when his side is currently doing mobs uncontested? Same guy who makes stupid bug reports? Also a terrible player?

Just make sure I'm not confusing him with someone else.

https://skiffleboom.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/over_the_line_walter_lebowski_skiffleboom.jpg


Hey, fuck you rookie, Sam was here way back in the day and has been nothing but a beacon of both hope and integrity during his stay.

Burgerking
12-16-2014, 03:04 PM
BK shows everyone how to pell blind outside of pvp news at 11. (which honestly prob helped out alot of people who didn't know blind was pellable)

But would like you to fraps that vs a real group.

CC is here to prevent BK of making EQ a WoW game wants it to be impossible for someone to escape a gank. No worries bros I'm here to prevent this scum from turnin this to WoW.

Wow would be the previous Eq system no CC worked on anyone kind of like having a trinket to break you free of everything, wouldn't you say?

HippoNipple
12-16-2014, 03:08 PM
I just showed you how to counter the tactic in 3 seconds, yet to you it's still some unstoppable broken thing you cant get around?



Blind is a 1.5 sec cast and putting see invis on someone is instant. If you get malo off and the other person hasn't already started using their pumice on themselves you can see invis/blind before they will dispel it. Even if the person has top 3 slots empty they will need to dispel themselves twice, taking away at least 1 buff and taking 6 seconds.

This also assumes you aren't bashing/interrupting during this time.

Blind should fail a large % of the time, even when debuffed, for it to make up for how powerful it is when it lands.

Burgerking
12-16-2014, 03:17 PM
Blind is a 1.5 sec cast and putting see invis on someone is instant. If you get malo off and the other person hasn't already started using their pumice on themselves you can see invis/blind before they will dispel it. Even if the person has top 3 slots empty they will need to dispel themselves twice, taking away at least 1 buff and taking 6 seconds.

This also assumes you aren't bashing/interrupting during this time.

Blind should fail a large % of the time, even when debuffed, for it to make up for how powerful it is when it lands.

FACT: Malosini only lands on gimps.

FACT: You have to malo and then malosini for blind to land on high MR targets.

FACT: That's over 8 seconds you sat there debuffed before the blind even landed.

FACT: You shouldn't talk about an activity you never do.

QUESTION? How do I remove a T-staff or Skean proc, how do I counter it? Hmm funny something you can counter is unfair but something you can't isn't even tho there both classic to this era.

Crazycloud
12-16-2014, 03:22 PM
FACT: Malosini only lands on gimps.

FACT: You have to malo and then malosini for blind to land on high MR targets.

FACT: That's over 8 seconds you sat there debuffed before the blind even landed.

FACT: You shouldn't talk about an activity you never do.

QUESTION? How do I remove a T-staff or Skean proc, how do I counter it? Hmm funny something you can counter is unfair but something you can't isn't even tho there both classic to this era.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80Gh9Zd1o7Q&feature=youtu.be

FACT BK is a gimp player. Landed malosini first try on self.
FACT Doesn't even have malo in spell bar ehhehehehe

Mac Drettj
12-16-2014, 03:22 PM
blind is a cure, malo is a dispell [edit: how is blind being nullify-magic'ed?]

melees cannot channel if a 1-handed hand 2 hand caster is swinging at him

everquest pvp doesnt happen in a vacuum

thanks for nothing tho

Genedin
12-16-2014, 03:23 PM
Very good and true

Now apply this to a 20v20 situation

or a 3v1 5v2 etc situation.

HippoNipple
12-16-2014, 03:26 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80Gh9Zd1o7Q&feature=youtu.be

FACT BK is a gimp player. Landed malosini first try on self.
FACT Doesn't even have malo in spell bar ehhehehehe

He didn't have it on his spell bar in his Quiet kill shot either. He also was making fun of him for having good gear. BK contradicts himself every other post and for some reason keeps bringing up WoW PvP when trying to make sense of EQ PvP. The guy is nuts.

Burgerking
12-16-2014, 03:27 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80Gh9Zd1o7Q&feature=youtu.be

FACT BK is a gimp player. Landed malosini first try on self.
FACT Doesn't even have malo in spell bar ehhehehehe

If you could read I clearly said in the post i dropped my MR just for the video. No malosini will not land on me without malo.


blind is a cure, malo is a dispell

melees cannot channel if a 1-handed hand 2 hand caster is swinging at him

everquest pvp doesnt happen in a vacuum

thanks for nothing tho

No lil dragon raider Blind can be CURED and DISPELLED

MELEE's can channel here just like casters.

The only thing that is in a vacuum is your head.

JayN
12-16-2014, 03:27 PM
pumice kinda sucks cause you can and totally will resist it, even debuffed. it like calculates it as a low level spell w/e level the spell is when it is gotten as a spell instead of casting players level

Burgerking
12-16-2014, 03:28 PM
pumice kinda sucks cause you can and totally will resist it, even debuffed. it like calculates it as a low level spell w/e level the spell is when it is gotten as a spell instead of casting players level

You just watched a single pumice click remove Malosini and blind one shot.

Nirgon
12-16-2014, 03:29 PM
Man where did I flame anyone

I want everything exactly classic that's typical me

Tstaff is pretty bullshit but you can't spam the effect every 2s like root/fetter

Burgerking
12-16-2014, 03:31 PM
He didn't have it on his spell bar in his Quiet kill shot either. He also was making fun of him for having good gear. BK contradicts himself every other post and for some reason keeps bringing up WoW PvP when trying to make sense of EQ PvP. The guy is nuts.

Because Quiet has shit MR I've fought him before and already knew this.

Colgate
12-16-2014, 03:32 PM
dumb thread

OP sucks at everquest

Burgerking
12-16-2014, 03:33 PM
dumb thread

OP sucks at everquest

Guess that's why you run from me ingame, i enter zone Colgate gone!!!

HippoNipple
12-16-2014, 03:38 PM
Because Quiet has shit MR I've fought him before and already knew this.

I would say a better guess is be you cast debuff and if it resists you cheetah and gate/plug.

SamwiseRed
12-16-2014, 07:54 PM
Isn't Samwise like a level 52 druid who only has shown up when his side is currently doing mobs uncontested? Same guy who makes stupid bug reports? Also a terrible player?

Just make sure I'm not confusing him with someone else.

i was 35 last week so i doubt it even with the xp bonus. samwise is a port buff bot, mad?

SamwiseRed
12-16-2014, 07:55 PM
also who are you?

http://r99pvp.com/showplayer.php?p=Kergan

lol?

Smedy
12-16-2014, 08:00 PM
the blind root in mass pvp is really shitting up the box, but haynar said he has done a lot of work for the next patch so i have my hopes up

Glenzig_
12-16-2014, 08:01 PM
working as intended get good fgts

Slathar
12-16-2014, 08:04 PM
also who are you?

http://r99pvp.com/showplayer.php?p=Kergan

lol?



Name Rank Class Kills Deaths Ratio Streak Points Guild
Samwise 731 9 4 2.25 1 5.52 Banelings


Rank Name Class Kills Deaths Ratio Streak Points
1248 Wolfgang 1 1 1.00 0 4.87


lol?

Ragnaros
12-16-2014, 08:06 PM
ya except its different when its tash and you actually have to cure it to just have it being re applied 2 seconds later lol, its a lot easier said then done pelling yourself with 5 melees wacking you and once you do get a pell off the cc'er already gets another root off because of spamming their 2 button idk how you cant see that this is broken with the way it is consistently landing lol

SamwiseRed
12-16-2014, 08:08 PM
Name Rank Class Kills Deaths Ratio Streak Points Guild
Samwise 731 9 4 2.25 1 5.52 Banelings


Rank Name Class Kills Deaths Ratio Streak Points
1248 Wolfgang 1 1 1.00 0 4.87


lol?

exactly my port/power level has more than this pvp god kergan. even my naked caster alts have over 20 kills ea.. da fuck is this. i just came back in dec too. id link my real kb but i like to be anon cuz that is the only way the games fun anymore.

vinnidel
12-16-2014, 08:44 PM
exactly my port/power level has more than this pvp god kergan. even my naked caster alts have over 20 kills ea.. da fuck is this. i just came back in dec too. id link my real kb but i like to be anon cuz that is the only way the games fun anymore.

jeremy can you add a category to r99pvp.org that indicates if someone is fucking retarded enough to hand a 10-charge puppet string to the foreman rather than charm him. samwise top of the charts on this one.

Ragnaros
12-16-2014, 08:45 PM
exactly my port/power level has more than this pvp god kergan. even my naked caster alts have over 20 kills ea.. da fuck is this. i just came back in dec too. id link my real kb but i like to be anon cuz that is the only way the games fun anymore.

hehehe I know your little mages name :b

Mac Drettj
12-16-2014, 09:41 PM
(()===D~

Ragnaros
12-16-2014, 09:47 PM
(()===D~(_(_
fixed that for you bb

Buhbuh
12-16-2014, 10:59 PM
In any 20v20 if you're the called primary target by the opposing force, you're dead. Let's not pretend it's any different regardless of the classes jumping on you.

Yeah. You never PvP'd at 60 pre Velious.

All of your arguments basically ignore the principles of healing in PvP. Good healers could easily counter an assist train. There's almost no circumstance when healing isnt effective pre-Luclin. Any model or train of thought that ignores that is flawed. This is how we know you don't know shit. Syft never mass PvPed.

PvP can still and needs to be refined right now. End of story.

Ragnaros
12-16-2014, 11:05 PM
Yeah. You never PvP'd at 60 pre Velious.

All of your arguments basically ignore the principles of healing in PvP. Good healers could easily counter an assist train. There's almost no circumstance when healing isnt effective pre-Luclin. Any model or train of thought that ignores that is flawed. This is how we know you don't know shit. Syft never mass PvPed.

PvP can still and needs to be refined right now. End of story.

Plus good players always carry a DA idol that takes 10 minutes to farm

Kergan
12-16-2014, 11:45 PM
Why are you flaming Samwise? Are you a godly pvp'er with multiple accomplishments under your belt, can you post screenshots of the numerous 1v1 kills you've acquired?



I'll agree to that if everyone else will agree to T-staff and Skean being removed, atleast blind I can remove.

1v1 kills only mean something to people who are bad at EverQuest.

Kergan
12-16-2014, 11:48 PM
also who are you?

http://r99pvp.com/showplayer.php?p=Kergan

lol?

Probably haven't logged that character in for over a year tbh. You're the same guy who quit supposedly because you had a guide application in then mysteriously returned the second Azrael started winning mobs when Nizzar went on break, only to disappear once again the second he came back and Nihilum started winning?

Seriously just making sure I am not confusing you with some other person.

HippoNipple
12-17-2014, 12:15 AM
Probably haven't logged that character in for over a year tbh. You're the same guy who quit supposedly because you had a guide application in then mysteriously returned the second Azrael started winning mobs when Nizzar went on break, only to disappear once again the second he came back and Nihilum started winning?

Seriously just making sure I am not confusing you with some other person.

Sam is pretty legit and started a semi successful guild from scratch that PvPed Nihilum in classic era. I don't think he has really tried to be involved in end game since Kunark launch, might be wrong.

SamwiseRed
12-17-2014, 01:34 AM
Probably haven't logged that character in for over a year tbh. You're the same guy who quit supposedly because you had a guide application in then mysteriously returned the second Azrael started winning mobs when Nizzar went on break, only to disappear once again the second he came back and Nihilum started winning?

Seriously just making sure I am not confusing you with some other person.

uh i was being considered for guide.. not sure if srs. i also quit logging in because of school but i probably made school up too :) but really who cares, this is elf sim. I just think its funny you brought up my lack of pvp when you dont even pvp yourself. just dont be a hypocrite. and yea i hate raiding more than anything. classic eq and leveling is what i enjoy about this game as well as group vs group pvp. i raided with azrael 2 or 3 times? how many uncontested raids have you been on tho? oh i see.

Kergan
12-17-2014, 01:44 AM
Nice rage edits.

pingpong
12-17-2014, 01:46 AM
kergan you just lost all credibility trying to flame sam. yea he can be a tard, but hes been one of the most legit neutral parties and server supporters since release.

stop trying so hard to be a cool forumquester

Kergan
12-17-2014, 01:59 AM
You want to know why I don't like Samwise? His bug report metagame. Garbage like this:

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=89721
and
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=130263

Like what kinda weirdo is looking up how many spells were in each spellbook page? The absolute most annoying people who play on P99 are the ones that force developers to look into shit like if the targeting window is supposed to change color or not. You wonder why Velious isn't out? People like Samwise. Basically, people who champion causes that make the game worse just because Sony hadn't got around to fixing it before Luclin release. Nothing to do with content or balance, just pure quality of life features that get killed off because someone like Samwise (who I don't think I saw in game for the 1.5 years I played on the server, yet he kept on posting those bug reports) raises hell about it.

And good luck on that guide app lol.

Conscript
12-17-2014, 02:10 AM
...The absolute most annoying people who play on P99 are the ones that force developers to look into shit... You wonder why Velious isn't out? ...Basically, people who champion causes that make the game worse just because Sony hadn't got around to fixing it before Luclin release. Nothing to do with content or balance, just pure quality of life features ...

Players like you are why the current generation of games suck and release unfinished products that are full of bugs.

You just want content not quality, fuck off.

Bazia
12-17-2014, 02:10 AM
Samwise > Kergan

SamwiseRed
12-17-2014, 02:24 AM
You want to know why I don't like Samwise? His bug report metagame. Garbage like this:

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=89721
and
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=130263

Like what kinda weirdo is looking up how many spells were in each spellbook page? The absolute most annoying people who play on P99 are the ones that force developers to look into shit like if the targeting window is supposed to change color or not. You wonder why Velious isn't out? People like Samwise. Basically, people who champion causes that make the game worse just because Sony hadn't got around to fixing it before Luclin release. Nothing to do with content or balance, just pure quality of life features that get killed off because someone like Samwise (who I don't think I saw in game for the 1.5 years I played on the server, yet he kept on posting those bug reports) raises hell about it.

And good luck on that guide app lol.

lul not sure if that was supposed to make me feel goog inside but it did.

HippoNipple
12-17-2014, 02:47 AM
You want to know why I don't like Samwise? His bug report metagame. Garbage like this:

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=89721
and
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=130263

Like what kinda weirdo is looking up how many spells were in each spellbook page? The absolute most annoying people who play on P99 are the ones that force developers to look into shit like if the targeting window is supposed to change color or not. You wonder why Velious isn't out? People like Samwise. Basically, people who champion causes that make the game worse just because Sony hadn't got around to fixing it before Luclin release. Nothing to do with content or balance, just pure quality of life features that get killed off because someone like Samwise (who I don't think I saw in game for the 1.5 years I played on the server, yet he kept on posting those bug reports) raises hell about it.

And good luck on that guide app lol.

By far your worst post. Kergan going through tough times.

Pikrib
12-17-2014, 09:08 AM
By far your worst post. Kergan going through tough times.

Does Kergen even still play here?

Kergan
12-17-2014, 11:23 AM
Players like you are why the current generation of games suck and release unfinished products that are full of bugs.

You just want content not quality, fuck off.

You realize you're arguing my point by agreeing with it right? A lot of the "non classic" quality of life things being removed by FQ crusaders were actually fixes and improvements implemented by the original dev team to correct their own mistakes.

Kergan
12-17-2014, 11:24 AM
Does Kergen even still play here?

I play as much as Samwise does.

Pikrib
12-17-2014, 11:26 AM
I've seen Sam on a couple times recently. What characters are you playing now Kergan?

Kergan
12-17-2014, 11:30 AM
By far your worst post. Kergan going through tough times.

Thank you for the in depth critical analysis of my post.

Taking some time away and viewing things from afar lets you see where the real problems with this server are. Post after post of stupid shit in the bug report forums, players banned for RMT multiple times who show up within 2 days in a decked out toon again, the same handful of stupid retards in a blood feud over who will kill PD for the 200th time, etc.

Biggest issue with R99? The playerbase. And not who you think. It's not the bad apples, the cheaters, the RMTers...its everyone else who continually refuses to hold them accountable and lets them back into their guild with open arms time and time again. The reason I don't play anymore isn't because I don't love EQ the same way I always have, it's because no matter which side I pick there are insufferable douchebags who would have been run off of any legit server years ago.

Kergan
12-17-2014, 11:31 AM
I've seen Sam on a couple times recently. What characters are you playing now Kergan?

i was 35 last week so i doubt it even with the xp bonus. samwise is a port buff bot, mad?

Burgerking
12-17-2014, 11:50 AM
1v1 kills only mean something to people who are bad at EverQuest.

Nope you have to establish yourself outside of a group environment otherwise how do we know your not a complete shit player that only relies on there group to do the work for them.

Big difference between a rogue that can hold a backstab and get the last shot 6v1 and rogue that can slay 1v1.

Pikrib
12-17-2014, 12:02 PM
I'm not sure what your quotes are trying to say. If you don't play Y do you post and make statements as if they are fact. You should log in if you want to talk about R99.

p.s.
Sam has more than 1 character, but the last time I grouped with him it was on his 54 or 55 bard.

Nirgon
12-17-2014, 12:27 PM
Not sure why they added AC working to PvP

I mean you can just heal the damage

:cool:

Kergan
12-17-2014, 12:35 PM
I'm not sure what your quotes are trying to say. If you don't play Y do you post and make statements as if they are fact. You should log in if you want to talk about R99.

p.s.
Sam has more than 1 character, but the last time I grouped with him it was on his 54 or 55 bard.

I don't care?

Kergan
12-17-2014, 12:39 PM
Nope you have to establish yourself outside of a group environment otherwise how do we know your not a complete shit player that only relies on there group to do the work for them.

Big difference between a rogue that can hold a backstab and get the last shot 6v1 and rogue that can slay 1v1.

I don't completely disagree with anything you're saying. But in a game that is fundamentally built on gathering into larger and larger groups to clear content is it really that big of a stretch to say that group vs group PVP is more important? I'd argue the elite 1v1 jouster rogue guy who doesn't assist properly, breaks raptures, etc is a worse pvper than the shitty 1v1 rogue who stays on target and plays properly in the group dynamic.

Point being, how someone plays in a group dynamic is both independent of 1v1 skill and more important in a lot of ways.

I will concede though that my scenario is pretty extreme, and people who are good 1v1 tend to be the better ones in groups as well though.

SamwiseRed
12-17-2014, 01:07 PM
good lord samwise has been 54 since sometime after kunark launch. hes had the same gear for over 2 years. hes a port/buff bot. ofc you havent seen him unless you are a lowbie in unrest/CB/starting zones, youll never see him. i am leveling as many alts as possibly to 55+ before the xp bonus is gone for good. i am on xmas break so i have the time to have a full agatha roster of alts. smell what im cookin?

enjoying classic red everquest right now. dont hate.

daasgoot
12-17-2014, 01:13 PM
i am leveling as many alts as possibly to 55+ before the xp bonus is gone for good.

not a bad idea right thurr

SamwiseRed
12-17-2014, 01:15 PM
nope and its fun as hell. each one im leveling is zero twink, zero starting plat. playing eq the way it was meant to be played but with goog xp :)

Steel Warrior
12-17-2014, 02:59 PM
Here's what I'm confused about: if blind is so trivial, why would BK ever cast it?

Burgerking
12-17-2014, 03:28 PM
Here's what I'm confused about: if blind is so trivial, why would BK ever cast it?

You don'y think I'm getting Blind, you see the forums you don't think Holocaust is out running around 24/7 looking to chop off BK's head and give it to Lord Ronald.

Nobody is getting blinded and rooted more than I am. I'm the victim of it more than I am the offender, it doesn't effect good players whatsoever. However there aren't a lot of good players here so I cast Blind often. The day I see people acting like I do I'll stop casting it as it will be worthless.

Jimmybones
12-17-2014, 03:54 PM
good lord samwise has been 54 since sometime after kunark launch. hes had the same gear for over 2 years. hes a port/buff bot. ofc you havent seen him unless you are a lowbie in unrest/CB/starting zones, youll never see him. i am leveling as many alts as possibly to 55+ before the xp bonus is gone for good. i am on xmas break so i have the time to have a full agatha roster of alts. smell what im cookin?

enjoying classic red everquest right now. dont hate.

Christmas break? Aren't you like 35 years old?

SamwiseRed
12-17-2014, 04:06 PM
Christmas break? Aren't you like 35 years old?

no im level 35, dont be confused. pras school.

Jimmybones
12-17-2014, 05:05 PM
Back in college? Good 4 u

Kimm Bare|y
12-17-2014, 05:29 PM
https://i.imgur.com/VzOsR.gif

pic related - it's OP

Gitem
12-17-2014, 05:34 PM
https://i.imgur.com/VzOsR.gif

pic related - it's OP

Lol'd.
Thank you.

SamwiseRed
12-17-2014, 05:36 PM
dayum that kid gonna get pd loot so fast

Kergan
12-17-2014, 10:42 PM
haha wtf