Corrupt Leaderboard, Unsticky It

[Tylar]

no legitimate kill has ever been removed from boards - wtf u talkin bout willis

Prove it

I kill someone in the OP's group so he edits the kill off the leaderboard. I saw it on there because I was checking points and then it was gone. When asked about it he was very defensive. He said he would make sure I was banned for training despite the train being just my charmed pet. Anyways here is the proof.

Here are the YT, anyone with logs can confirm I had 4 kills in HHK within an hour of each other. 2 on Nenshou and 2 on another guy. The first kill on Nenshou was edited off the killboard.
http://i.imgur.com/9Q3HLXf.jpg

What leaderboard looks like right now before he ninja edits the kill back on. As you can see the first kill on Nenshou is missing. Had I not seen it on there myself then see it disappear, I wouldn't have even cared. But knowing the OP is editing the KB on purpose reeks of bias/corruption. Didn't red already have a bias leaderboard? Why can't people just be fair and impartial?
http://i.imgur.com/QlFL76c.jpg

Can we get his thread unstickied if the OP is just going to edit whatever kills he deems fit. The community doesnt support bullshitters.

[Widan]

The leaderboard is completely irrelevant to level 60 pvp. I'm glad your kill got removed and wish all sub 60 kills did not even show up.

[SamwiseRed]

The leaderboard is completely irrelevant to level 60 pvp. I'm glad your kill got removed and wish all sub 60 kills did not even show up.

[Buzzed Killer]

The leaderboard is completely irrelevant to level 60 pvp. I'm glad your kill got removed and wish all sub 60 kills did not even show up.

Why would you even care so much? Who says you have to enjoy the game at 60? You think that a 60 leaderboard would mean anything more?

Sour much?

[BardPop]

Ya i got accused of training because an idiot didn't understand charm pets could get yt, didn't even know it was a pet and flipped out. Totally stupid.

[quido]

Never edited a single kill for any reason other than it was a bugged duplicate.

Occasionally our monitor goes down and we miss kills entirely, but never removed any.

I'm not in a group btw - on a mule in NFP named Givemeplat and have been for hours.

[krazyGlue]

Ownd

[Tylar]

Never edited a single kill for any reason other than it was a bugged duplicate.

Occasionally our monitor goes down and we miss kills entirely, but never removed any.

I'm not in a group btw - on a mule in NFP named Givemeplat and have been for hours.

The kill was there though then it was taken off. You have a character called Yourmom so it is probable that you have another character called Yourdad. You are a terrible liar. Just admit you took the kill off.

[quido]

Proof of it being there at all? I don't think it ever was. Why would I remove a kill for some random retarded noob I don't even know?

[Buzzed Killer]

Proof of it being there at all? I don't think it ever was. Why would I remove a kill for some random retarded noob I don't even know?

You have done it to me many times, and there will be many more times in the future. You are a fraud. Simple as that. You must be making money off this somehow.

[krazyGlue]

Ya im with stupid ^^^. Must be making money off this

[quido]

Ok done responding to you retards after this one. Show more concrete proof or shut up. No kill has ever been illegitimately removed from boards. Sometimes my monitor character goes down and we miss kills entirely. If this happens and you have proof of the kill, send it to me and we'll get it input. Sometimes the game bugs out and YT is shown within the zone of the kill but doesn't make it to other zones. In these situations the kill will never have been recorded on the leaderboard - it wasn't added and then removed.

You guys are quick to the tinfoil.

[Buzzed Killer]

Ok done responding to you retards after this one. Show more concrete proof or shut up. No kill has ever been illegitimately removed from boards. Sometimes my monitor character goes down and we miss kills entirely. If this happens and you have proof of the kill, send it to me and we'll get it input. Sometimes the game bugs out and YT is shown within the zone of the kill but doesn't make it to other zones. In these situations the kill will never have been recorded on the leaderboard - it wasn't added and then removed.

You guys are quick to the tinfoil.

Whatever the fuk that said. It was way too long

http://gadgetgyan.in/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/true-story.png

Night. Thx for your time.

[quido]

Tylar, your missing kill was added. Next time a kill is missing don't jump to any stupid conclusions involving ridiculous conspiracy theories - just let me know what the issue is and we'll handle it.

[Clark]

Outlandish ostriches often offering opinions on order.

http://i.imgur.com/Ochy8uO.jpg

[Cobretti]

Ok done responding to you retards after this one. Show more concrete proof or shut up.

This statement proves everything....seriously, we have to SHOW proof when the burden of proof to show nothing is wrong should be on the person running the board. WOW

[Widan]

How would he know something is wrong unless you show him? It's a bot that sits in game keeping track of YT that pops up, not a person monitoring the server 24/7 you goddamned idiot.

[quido]

I don't input or believe kills without a credible timestamp - too many people have tried to scam me. Luckily I was logged in when the missed kill occurred so I could confirm it myself. This normally is not the case.

We do the best we can. I could never conclusively prove to you that I'm not editing the boards. If you don't like the boards or think they're corrupt - don't use them.

[Eslade]

http://thebluedawg.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/tinfoil.jpg

[Swish]

There's an answer here, if the leaderboard is crooked....set up your own one, leave a monitor logged in and track discrepancies if you think there have been any?

http://img.pandawhale.com/109015-jack-sparrow-youre-welcome-gif-NnFa.gif

[Nirgon]

Coming from someone on the opposite team of quido/Jeremy

It's not rigged, the char monitoring it goes offline sometimes (pretty rarely tbh)

It's an unofficial leader board for fun and works pretty well

[sykotic]

The leaderboard just encourages twinks because there's no way to filter the data by level, etc.

I get that its a limitation but IMO get rid of it, does nothing but cause drama/dishonorable acts.

[Tylar]

No tinfoil hat here. I killed someone then logged. Noticed the kill was on the leaderboard then off so I log back on and ask about it. Lots of shit talk back and forth so I decide to stay awake and pvp some more. Had I not seen the kill on the KB then see it disppear, this would never have been brought up.

-Tylar Durden
I make and I sell soap.

[Mac Drettj]

he collects the data with a single lvl 1 character in the high elf city

its very inaccurate

sticky-ing promotes false stats and encourages bind and naked kills for third party points

only leaderboard worth having would be one supported by p99 with database connection

[HippoNipple]

Quido needs to spend less time losing Everquset and forumquest to noobs and more time playing sports

[Glenzig]

Never edited a single kill for any reason other than it was a bugged duplicate.

Occasionally our monitor goes down and we miss kills entirely, but never removed any.

I'm not in a group btw - on a mule in NFP named Givemeplat and have been for hours.

Weren't you the guy who was begging people to buy stiff cause you're quiting?

[Elderan]

And people wonder why I stopped offering my leader board....

[Bazia]

well you would delete kills and shit unlike quido here

[Colgate]

maybe because

well

i don't know

you're a fucking tard?

[Mac Drettj]

at least elderan had more than 1 data bot collecting logs...

[Eslade]

at least elderan had more than 1 data bot collecting logs...

Doesn't mean anything when you'd alter them when you got pissed at another guild.

[Elderan]

at least elderan had more than 1 data bot collecting logs...

I had 5 when I first started and then went down to 3 at some point as it seemed to be about the right number. Every so often one would be online but the log file would just stop for no reason. Also random disconnects from the server happened every now and then but all of them going offline happened rarely unless the server reset. I wrote a program to auto re log them in but I did not use it for fear that Derubael would ban them and me as well since he knew they were mine and he was gunning for me for a while. I did write an app that monitored the log files and if they stopped for more than a few minutes would send me a text alert, also it watched the P99 webpage for server down messages and it would send me a text alert as well.

[LulzSect]

felon

[Mac Drettj]

considering the first few contested vp's holo vs azrael the logs were completely turned off and then quido posed new logic for the board to not track /guildremoved kills (azrael death strategy)

he is very biased and just as inaccurate as Elderan editing his page

one was biased for nihilum, one was biased for azrael

only unbiased 100% accurate solution would be p99 provided

[Elderan]

considering the first few contested vp's holo vs azrael the logs were completely turned off and then quido posed new logic for the board to not track /guildremoved kills (azrael death strategy)

he is very biased and just as inaccurate as Elderan editing his page

one was biased for nihilum, one was biased for azrael

only unbiased 100% accurate solution would be p99 provided

I talked with Alecta about doing this during the early days. This is one of the reasons I did not improve my leader board early on. But he hit a lot of internal road blocks, not coding ones and it never happened of course.

Any external leader board is going to be inaccurate. The accuracy of mine was 97% when I audited it several times though. I know people will always point to the 12 hours Azrael kills were not showing but they were never deleted of course just hidden. Outside of that event though no kills were ever removed. I did hide kills from The Area per GMs request because they were causing issues with their events.

I always like tracking data and like the idea of the a leader board. It was really fun to review after large pvp battles. But taking it as gospel is never a good idea.

[heartbrand]

they really need to do a sociological study of red99 one day

[SamwiseRed]

they really need to do a sociological study of red99 one day

id rather not be sent to arkham asylum.

[fred schnarf]

yellow text should not exist imo

[Swish]

they really need to do a sociological study of red99 one day

They'd end up being the ones studied - how long to get em rustled? etc

[Pikrib]

they really need to do a sociological study of red99 one day

Workin on it buddy. This is what i came up with so far.

http://i.imgur.com/q6uZvPV.jpg

[Mac Drettj]

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120809221913/uncyclopedia/images/1/18/Dancing_Chimps.gif

[JackFlash]

This is the enchanter who griefed a whole group of 30's and basically made us leave HK. All hail Tylar the great. Keep up the good work. I'm pretty sure the point of PVP is not to drive the other P off the server. Do you have a CB and MM griefing char too?

[Pikrib]

what is the one before normal human

It was going to be the GM's, but I didn't want to lose my FQ account. ;)

[Velerin]

Wish I had more than 20pp in the bank so I can buy some pumice.

Where's the red99 pumice welfare office? 4 pumice food stamps per week?

[Fame]

Workin on it buddy. This is what i came up with so far.

http://i.imgur.com/q6uZvPV.jpg

loool

[Buzzed Killer]

http://cdn.alltheragefaces.com/img/faces/svg/troll-sad-troll-face.svg

[Molinior]

The 4th is a casual red 99 player

[pingpong]

Workin on it buddy. This is what i came up with so far.

http://i.imgur.com/q6uZvPV.jpg

lol well done

[Gustoo]

I'd put retti over a blue 99er.

[Farzo]

After quido attempted to retroactivity remove bind camping kills a few days after pal Beastagor got bind camped I think 89.9% of people mentally made his board irrelevant.

Where's the leader board for PvP rezs/heals/cures and allowing chanters to tap my mana so they can keep up with mezes. (can't track that shit anyhow). So really its a burst DPs board for the most part.

[quido]

Attempted to? We only changed the rules going forward. The system was recomputed under those rules from the beginning so people could see it (this is beta, after all) alongside the existing system, but it was never adopted.

Kind of funny to see how almost all the board haters are former Nihilum nonfactors, yet a number of such people pras the board anyways.

[Bazia]

pras the leaderboard despite its flaws still good fun

[Kergan]

Attempted to? We only changed the rules going forward. The system was recomputed under those rules from the beginning so people could see it (this is beta, after all) alongside the existing system, but it was never adopted.

Kind of funny to see how almost all the board haters are former Nihilum nonfactors, yet a number of such people pras the board anyways.

Kinda like how almost all the haters of Elderan's board were Azrael nonfactors. Just the way it works.

[Mac Drettj]

was colgate an azrael nonfactor?

<Azrael> tag automatically changes factor status to 0

[Pikrib]

Kinda like how almost all the haters of Elderan's board were Azrael nonfactors. Just the way it works.

If a nonfactor calls someone else a nonfactor does that make them a factor?

[Kergan]

If a nonfactor calls someone else a nonfactor does that make them a factor?

Yes actually, double negative cancels out.

[Kergan]

<Azrael> tag automatically changes factor status to 0

Yes exactly.

[mrproudbeard]

Yes actually, double negative cancels out.

Are a non factor and a negative factor the same? Let's not let our math get sloppy here.

[BardPop]

Guido added a missing kill to my score np when i talked to him. But i have to wonder if he really does has a char named yourmom, funny

[Farzo]

If a nonfactor calls someone else a nonfactor does that make them a factor?

Yes.

[quido]

Just for the record I'm not Guido - that's Andis. quido is spelled with a Q. I'm pretty used to it though.

I have access to a pal's port bot named Yomama, but no, Yourmom or whatever is not me. I've been on my trader pretty much exclusively the last two weeks since I am in the process of quitting playing to focus on other things (like the leaderboard!). I want an accurate leaderboard more than anyone. I'm not sure why I'd delete a kill on some unknown low level when my undefeated 100-kill warrior suffering a death to Khalifa remains, lol.

I'm looking forward to bringing some new features to the leaderboard.

[FoxxHound]

quido should give me good gear IMO. He has fungis n stuff.

[fred schnarf]

Just for the record I'm not Guido - that's Andis. quido is spelled with a Q. I'm pretty used to it though.

I have access to a pal's port bot named Yomama, but no, Yourmom or whatever is not me. I've been on my trader pretty much exclusively the last two weeks since I am in the process of quitting playing to focus on other things (like the leaderboard!). I want an accurate leaderboard more than anyone. I'm not sure why I'd delete a kill on some unknown low level when my undefeated 100-kill warrior suffering a death to Khalifa remains, lol.

I'm looking forward to bringing some new features to the leaderboard.

luiquidating your shit to RMT out?

k

i know when i am in the process of quitting i just fucking quit.

[quido]

Why would I want to keep a bunch of crappy Kunark gear when I have the chance to make a bunch of people mad by coming up with 8 figures? Stackin dem plats to the ceiling! Then destroying them on stream.

[Ragnaros]

Jeremy prolly one of the best guys you can have a decent conversation with, sad hes leaving, will definetly be missed

[yourdad]

Tylar mad and embarrassed

http://i.imgur.com/UqyMP6P.jpg