View Full Version : how to kill Gorenaire with less than 20 people
I heard holocaust was having a little trouble with gore, im not trying to be condescending or anything just thought id give a few tips.
One of the many things I did for azrael was teach them how kill Gore.
Most important factors are your wizards, get them 60 with sunstrike
***GORE MUST BE MALO'D INSTANTLY AT START OF FIGHT***
sunstrike lands almost always for 1615 with malo on
gore holds 32k hp divided by 1600 = 20 sunstrikes to kill him. now at 34% gore will start to CH so you dont actually need 20 sunstrikes.
32000 X .64 = 20480
20480 / 1600 = 12.8
so roughly 13 sunstrikes will put gore into ch mode stopping all ae's and dps.
3 wizards is the minimum but 4-5 is ideal.
at this point it will become a push fight.
***IMPORTANT if your melee isnt ready to push the second gore turns 34% hp she will regain casting and cast the CH and obliterate your raid. Gore is a huge model so she has a larger regain casting range.***
push and win simple as that.
get multiple shamans to torpor the wizards and clerics, this isnt necessary with the proper force because gore will go to CH range within like 20 seconds and you only get hit by like 2 AE's but incase something goes wrong and say a wizard or two dies early in the fight for whatever reason the torpors will allow you to withstand 2-3 more AE's before wiping.
There is a way to DA the first AE but its really not needed.
Gore's AE is an AE around the target he casts on so if you let the puller take the AE away from the raid you can have a 5 second buffer but truly it barely helps at all and I wouldnt waste my time with it.
just have everybody fully buffed and runed and you should be fine with the above strat.
I feel like it goes without saying but have your top 2 buff slots open for the slow to be pelled. Have a mage summon each melee 1 insta pell stick so when gore reaches 34% you can simplly insta cure yourself then push the ch to interruption.
http://puu.sh/d3DdL/5fe783ee2e.jpg
i understand you see a lure in the SS here but 2 reasons for that
gore was way into CH chain so sunstrike was not needed
I was oom and couldnt afford to cast it at this point in the fight.
We've killed Gore im pretty sure 5-8 times now, at least one of those times with under 30 people. A mixture of miscommunication and PVP interference was really all it was.
the gore wipe troll isnt even interesting, like everyone should know how easy it is for a bard to totally screw a gore attempt with just a few bereavements, we certainly did, but we had a bunch of time to kill before the next mob pop, so we screwed around anyways.
Stalos_
11-24-2014, 10:31 AM
Lite taught me. Not you.
bigeasy
11-24-2014, 10:32 AM
tips for 16 year old live content on 3 years and running kunark red timeline,, ya heard it first here yall
Ah, my strat to do gore without interruption was to move the raid into position full buffed then everybody log out.
meet back in 30 minutes to an hour have the puller then bring gore to the kill spot have everybody log in and snipe.
It definitely works because yeah pvp is the hardest part to gore. but proper stealth can avoid any pvp for the fight.
Will try this tactic tonight
Lite taught me. Not you.
I taught lite, he was my little pawn that taught you.
If someone wants legit strat on how Azrael does gore with 20, best person to ask is Vaporize as he got lucky and got to witness a special aspect of our strat.
lol azrael constantly wiped with 40 on gore until i explained to lite how to do it.
there is a reason azrael crumbled to pieces after I left the guild
Mac Drettj
11-24-2014, 10:40 AM
How to kill gore with 20:
Uncontested, no enemy level 60s online
How to kill gore with 20:
Uncontested, no enemy level 60s online
if you have the numbers, do it with 20, and have 40 on pvp defense for all I care.
whenever I did gore i had 20-30 so this was really the only option.
Kaahbal
11-24-2014, 10:43 AM
tldr push
Mac Drettj
11-24-2014, 10:44 AM
Anything can be done with a skeleton crew when there is no threat present.
I did a 12 man naggy with nihilum pre kunark, no threats around. Nihilum did like a 20 man hoshkar when nobody else had vp keys (hehe stasis).
Everything can be done with well geared/class make up 3 group when it's purely PvE no outside factors.
Anything can be done with a skeleton crew when there is no threat present.
I did a 12 man naggy with nihilum pre kunark, no threats around. Nihilum did like a 20 man hoshkar when nobody else had vp keys (hehe stasis).
Everything can be done with well geared/class make up 3 group when it's purely PvE no outside factors.
can do hoskar with 12 people until a few months ago when they fixed the slow nerf that nilly exploited for 3 years.
have turgers insects and the ae doesnt hurt you.
Mac Drettj
11-24-2014, 10:48 AM
That doesn't work anymore but thanks for the retro news alert
can do hoskar with 12 people until a few months ago when they fixed the slow nerf that nilly exploited for 3 years.
have turgers insects and the ae doesnt hurt you.
Eslade
11-24-2014, 11:02 AM
I sent this guide to prima games and pc gamer.
Andis
11-24-2014, 11:10 AM
I remember my first beer too 8)
glad to see jibekn around still tho
time for that pvp jib, ya dig?
Kergan
11-24-2014, 11:25 AM
Screenshot inside a screenshot.
http://sensesofcinema.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/inception1.png
Nirgon
11-24-2014, 11:27 AM
You got any strats for selo drum bard group attacking healers during engage
Kergan
11-24-2014, 11:30 AM
Pull to yeti caves.
Pikrib
11-24-2014, 11:32 AM
You got any strats for selo drum bard group attacking healers during engage
Got an enchanter with a cure shield?
You got any strats for selo drum bard group attacking healers during engage
cure rapture tash malo snare
get your shamans druids and enchanters organized and prepared.
we did it in hokuten and we did some killer plays.
enchanters need to be MA's get some that know how to play or have something that knows how to play reroll
enchanters win pvp
Nirgon
11-24-2014, 11:44 AM
Ice tunnel is asking for denon shit.
The real answer is don't pull the bitch with kos bard groups in zone. Her aoe is retardedly hard to resist compared to Tal/Sev.. even her fear but that's probs just RNG. Klandicar I'm sure will be a treat with kos in zone too.
Easy as fuck Kunark dragon will be up all week. Fresh/EL is welcome to take a crack and we won't fux with ya just like we didn't on Draco or Fay (GW messed with ya under no direction from us).
dont think an inny cure shield is all that good
there are
poison dots
disease dots
magic dots
any half decent bard trying to solo fuck a raid will switch the type of self dot he uses to get the job done. be prepared for anything.
if the bard is lite his rent money is on the line so rest assured he will most likely try different types of self dots.
or use rangers with windstrikers i heard you got some
Kergan
11-24-2014, 11:48 AM
Yeti caves was a joke as there is some PVP related yeti cave history here on R99
Mac Drettj
11-24-2014, 11:59 AM
Loling at this
Rangerdown
11-24-2014, 12:05 PM
No offense man, but rape it with wizards isn't much of a super secret strat, and despite the size of our force I don't think we have that many 60 wizards. I'm sure pulling it somewhere people could get out of line of sight easier would be beneficial, but I'm also sure there's a reason Gongshow and co. don't do that.
Honestly though, Gore is a case of the zerg working against us. Too many under geared / under leveled zerglings (myself included) ping ponging the dragon with low hp agro, moving it out of nuke range, eating up heals, etc...
No offense man, but rape it with wizards isn't much of a super secret strat, and despite the size of our force I don't think we have that many 60 wizards. I'm sure pulling it somewhere people could get out of line of sight easier would be beneficial, but I'm also sure there's a reason Gongshow and co. don't do that.
Honestly though, Gore is a case of the zerg working against us. Too many under geared / under leveled zerglings (myself included) ping ponging the dragon with low hp agro, moving it out of nuke range, eating up heals, etc...
super secret what?
dont have 60 wizards? get them
cant los gore ae it goes thru walls
dragon ping ponging? have the tank use a mallet
low hp aggro? stand on the tank
all of your problems seem to be pretty simple, thought retti said this was easy and a laughing matter?
Rangerdown
11-24-2014, 12:16 PM
super secret what?
low hp aggro? stand on the tank
Even with sow off, and walk on, people tend not to stand in one spot when fear hits. Have just enough hps to eat enough fears that they get scattered before the low hp problem starts. Can't root / snare em all. :)
Rangerdown
11-24-2014, 12:17 PM
super secret what?
dont have 60 wizards? get them
Holo crootin.
about 250 mr is about 90% resist chance on fear
level hardly matters
MR > levels
should be 60 anyhow tho...
use some bards get 400+ mr and be at like 99% chance to resist
dont have MR gear? take over seb get jacs and diamonds only takes a week to gear an entire raid
Not Salem
11-24-2014, 12:24 PM
strat is get wizards? Azrael's is much better at the moment thanks for the tips though
Tassador
11-24-2014, 12:35 PM
This thread is disgusting move to blue content on how to kill dragons...
strat is get wizards? Azrael's is much better at the moment thanks for the tips though
strat is get wizards? Azrael's is much better at the moment thanks for the tips though
disgusting
Pikrib
11-24-2014, 12:53 PM
Ah, my strat to do gore without interruption was to move the raid into position full buffed then everybody log out.
meet back in 30 minutes to an hour have the puller then bring gore to the kill spot have everybody log in and snipe.
It definitely works because yeah pvp is the hardest part to gore. but proper stealth can avoid any pvp for the fight.
Holocaust has too many spies. Not gonna happen.
Ask Jib about spies. They're fuggin everwhere.
Mac Drettj
11-24-2014, 12:54 PM
super secret what?
dont have 60 wizards? get them
cant los gore ae it goes thru walls
dragon ping ponging? have the tank use a mallet
low hp aggro? stand on the tank
all of your problems seem to be pretty simple, thought retti said this was easy and a laughing matter?
?
HippoNipple
11-24-2014, 01:02 PM
Holocaust has too many spies. Not gonna happen.
Ask Jib about spies. They're fuggin everwhere.
Do they count as spies still when they just quit playing in Azrael, don't report anything they find out and just play their Holocaust chars so they can raid?
kotton05
11-24-2014, 01:07 PM
pell at 40% and it's gg blue thread in red forum smh!!!
strat is get wizards? Azrael's is much better at the moment thanks for the tips though
man we sat down for a few hours and talked about how fucked up lite is a few days after he blatantly rmt'd the robe to sektor. You were boycotting raids and saying lite what such a piece of trash etc. We talked about how we were going to change things for the guild and rid the scum from the guild.
somehow you found yourself back into the same rut allied with the half weasel cousin fucker sektor and the mutant pig rmt sorceror.
is it bitterness against "losing" to the opposing guild so you are pretending nothing happened? I'm not sure
so depressing... I thought you were a man of integrity, a man of noble blood. its not very often this happens, but it looks like I was wrong.
It truly brings a tear to my eye to see a man of your stature, support such dreadful deeds.
Burgerking
11-24-2014, 01:31 PM
Holocaust has too many spies. Not gonna happen.
Ask Jib about spies. They're fuggin everwhere.
We're actually aware of each and every spy, we just don't give a shit.
Unless you have 20 wizards, it will take more than 20 sun strikes.
Dolic
Samsung
11-24-2014, 03:52 PM
man we sat down for a few hours and talked about how fucked up lite is a few days after he blatantly rmt'd the robe to sektor. You were boycotting raids and saying lite what such a piece of trash etc. We talked about how we were going to change things for the guild and rid the scum from the guild.
somehow you found yourself back into the same rut allied with the half weasel cousin fucker sektor and the mutant pig rmt sorceror.
is it bitterness against "losing" to the opposing guild so you are pretending nothing happened? I'm not sure
so depressing... I thought you were a man of integrity, a man of noble blood. its not very often this happens, but it looks like I was wrong.
It truly brings a tear to my eye to see a man of your stature, support such dreadful deeds.
lol this post
iiNGloriouS
11-24-2014, 03:56 PM
Look at Jody, playing that benevolent dispel song and shit. Dear god. Bill Cosby bless us all.
Colgate
11-24-2014, 03:58 PM
lite and salem's relationship couldn't be better
as evident by them tag team golem wanding me in VP yesterday
Andis
11-24-2014, 04:08 PM
lite and salem's relationship couldn't be better
as evident by them tag team golem wanding me in VP yesterday
oooyaaa ze doubleteeaaamm
Colgate
11-24-2014, 05:21 PM
well then beastagor died
wasn't very successful
BardPop
11-24-2014, 07:52 PM
Poison dots? What poison dot can a bard cast on themselves
Farzo
11-24-2014, 09:39 PM
man we sat down for a few hours and talked about how fucked up lite is a few days after he blatantly rmt'd the robe to sektor. You were boycotting raids and saying lite what such a piece of trash etc. We talked about how we were going to change things for the guild and rid the scum from the guild.
somehow you found yourself back into the same rut allied with the half weasel cousin fucker sektor and the mutant pig rmt sorceror.
is it bitterness against "losing" to the opposing guild so you are pretending nothing happened? I'm not sure
so depressing... I thought you were a man of integrity, a man of noble blood. its not very often this happens, but it looks like I was wrong.
It truly brings a tear to my eye to see a man of your stature, support such dreadful deeds.
Very juicy.
Join Holo where these problems are non existent.
In fact I saw that good guys Strange and Teriyaki both got CoF's the other day and weren't a) banked to be sold for plat back to fellow guildies or b) went to close pal of leaderships level 20 twink c) rmted.
Not Salem
11-25-2014, 02:23 AM
Wanting went very well, I was Rez'd and standing on collates corpse untill phara data body poofed
Not Salem
11-25-2014, 02:24 AM
Wanding*
Colgate
11-25-2014, 03:04 AM
yaw but the wands had nothing to do with that
some insane racnar that hit me from across the room did that(was fully buffed)
Pikrib
11-25-2014, 08:53 AM
Very juicy.
Join Holo where these problems are non existent.
In fact I saw that good guys Strange and Teriyaki both got CoF's the other day and weren't a) banked to be sold for plat back to fellow guildies or b) went to close pal of leaderships level 20 twink c) rmted.
We can only hope that one day you will get over the memories of Nihilum doing that stuff Farzo.
We can also hope that one day you will stop screwing sheep.
Eslade
11-25-2014, 09:00 AM
We can only hope that one day you will get over the memories of Nihilum doing that stuff Farzo.
We can also hope that one day you will stop screwing kangaroos.
Ftfy
Pikrib
11-25-2014, 09:04 AM
We can only hope that one day you will get over the memories of Nihilum doing that stuff Farzo.
We can also hope that one day you will stop getting screwed by kangaroos.
FTFM
http://i.imgur.com/WlXa52o.jpg
Sektor
11-25-2014, 09:30 AM
Lol Pikrib.
Yumyums Inmahtumtums
11-25-2014, 10:15 AM
Strategy for a 32k dragon on a 27 year old elf sim in it's 5th straight year of Kunark
U guys r pethetic
Postin in an troll thrad
Pikrib
11-25-2014, 10:19 AM
If nobody posted in troll threads we it would be all new threads and and no replies.
Eslade
11-25-2014, 10:26 AM
I thought the trolls were the reason most people visit this forum. It's definitely not the informative posts or the abstraction of the red player psyche.
LostCause
11-26-2014, 03:11 PM
can do hoskar with 12 people until a few months ago when they fixed the slow nerf that nilly exploited for 3 years.
have turgers insects and the ae doesnt hurt you.
Hate to break it to you but red just hit 3 years old this Nov.
Burgerking
11-26-2014, 03:18 PM
We were just fucking up that day, people were acting like George Clowny.
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