Tough Spot.

[Flintt]

Hello all,

I'm in a tough spot right now, I recently started playing p1999 and decided to level a few characters to decide which to play.

I wanted to play an Ogre Warrior but finally decided on a Monk, since it was the next in line besides Ranger :rolleyes: of my favorite classes and because I can't afford 2 Lamentations yet to tank reliably. Well after a few days of saving I was finally able to afford Wu's Quivering Staff, Cured Silk, Plat Fire Wedding Rings x2 and Golden Jaded Bracelet x2.

By no means am I twinked but I can get the job done. My issue now, currently lvl 11 is that I'm having a tough time effectively soloing for xp (Mends not capped,even then bleh no Fungi) and the groups I have been running into are absolutely horrible. I end up pulling W/o FD mind you and also end up tanking (not that I mind but the low Hp really takes its toll). The SK's can't even keep aggro with disease cloud :(, not only that but the bards and ench dont CC at all. So if we get adds I end up eating dirt EVERYTIME.

I'm at a loss at the moment because grouping has become down right painful. Where should I got from here? Should I just keep on pushing?(hard to level with constant xp loss) Should I level the warrior without the Lammy's? Trying to avoid playing a class i'm not to fond of just to see the rest of the game, i.e casters (I could never get into, always Tank/Melee).

Help a new player out!

[jarlerop]

Dude you are 11 and making a big deal out of nothing. Play what you want and suck it up, it gets better.

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

It's also ok to tell people what to do in group. Sometimes people feel like it rude to tell other people that they are playing their class wrong, but if you use tact and are actually correct you will be doing them a favor in the end. Don't suffer in silence.

[Kekephee]

It takes some time. I had a similar problem. I don't want to make any assumptions about your game history, but I know a lot of us who went from EQ to WoW came back to P99 and were horrified to remember what it's like to play a game that you actually have to play and pay attention to instead of what WoW has become where you just click the raid finder button, teleport into the end-game, burn through a couple of fights in 15 minutes without saying a word to anyone and then roll against yourself for loot. If that's your situation, you'll get used to how much harder this game is pretty quickly. You'll probably want to quit by your 20s, but stick it out and you'll get back to enjoying this fantastic game very soon.

[Kreylyn]

Ask players up front if they can do certain tasks you need.

Then don't be afraid to bark out orders. "Root this!" "Mez This!" "Tank This!" "Assist me" Off tank that!"

Be informed about your agro.

If you have a designated tank, it's YOUR job to control YOUR agro and not steal it from them. If you have semi twinked rate of attack going on and they don't, then they will have a very difficult time even if they are trying hard. Increase your range to the mob to max melee range. Pause before attacking to allow them to generate some hate. Turn off auto attack while fighting if your getting is significantly more hits in, as pausing some will help greatly if you pull it back too often. If your the puller, I would....

Pull the mob, single throw to agro for pull only auto attack off... let tank pull it off back at group quickly. Wait a moment before attacking. Once down 20% attack for 50-65% dmg, then move on to the next pull while group finishes the last 25-15% of the mob off. (unless you have one on hold from CC).

Repeat as long as the mana keeps up with the heals.

Krey

[toolshed]

Monk is less gear dependent than a warrior; I would say stick with the monk. Just grind it out man - there is no real secret to Evequest

[stakha]

If the sk couldnt hold aggro over 2 wu sticks he was a shitty sk, even if his gear was shit. Disease cloud will win over those every day. In an extreme circumstance he'd have to cast it twice. Keep going, monk will be lots of fun and as you progress people tend to be better at their classes.

[DarkwingDuck]

Ya, sounds like bad luck, everytime I group, the runs are awesome.
I'm lvl 19 currently , and everytime I group good players, I friend list them, you'll want a big list 20-40 people, cause they won't all stick kt that lowbie and move on
Eventually when u log on.. You'll have 1-3 of ur buddies u know are good, and gonna rock out some XP

Gluck, get that mend up, grab a regen in EC for 20 minutes, and grab a dmg shield, I'll even provide it on my Mage. Get you out of a couple crappy lvls in a few mins .

Edit oops: wizard 19, Greacenthe

[Zliz]

Monk soloing is tough, and it is very frustrating until you get to around level 20 where you have increased damage cap and most importantly, a well-working Feign Death. You also get more sitting regen at level 20, Eagle Strike, and Bind Wound starts being decently useful.

You need to constantly be focusing on killing mobs that are baaarely blue, or "high green". Pull a mob one or two levels too high and you have to start over. To be honest, this continues for the rest of your soloing career, but you learn to deal with it.

Stick to it! When you get Feign Death the game changes totally, and I would recommend you max it out in a safe area as soon as you get it, just because it's so nice to be able to bail out on overpulls. It saves you so much time from running to the guards/zone or doing corpse recovery (CR). I was so close to giving up on my Monk in the early levels, but at level 17 with FD I knew I was in for some fun.

Also, I wouldn't recommend doing big groups at low levels, but instead look for a duo partner. Being 5-6 people in a group slowly pulling newbie mobs and having to deal with AFKs, overpulls, different mindsets, etc. is simply not worth it, and by that I mean the XP will be crap and it's more annoying than good. If you can find a priest or caster to duo with, that will rock.

[Cecily]

Lammies suck, bad. Get dual jade maces if you really wanna go super fast weapons. Whether or not that holds threat well for a low warrior, I have no clue. Would work better than those ugly, ugly lamentations tho and are also cheaper!

[paulgiamatti]

I respectfully disagree! Jade maces are cool, but they even uglier than lammies. Plus them stats! +12 str means you'll be hitting harder, and +12 sta & 40 hp is a nice chunk of health.

[webrunner5]

Rangers on here hardly EVER use Lammies other than to skill up with. It is two handers all the way. A Swiftblade till level 20 then the cheap Ranger only two handers till Epics.

Yeah Monks are tough to play till FD. Keep at it. Like has been said stick with it.

[shamanredux]

I get the impression that you aren't an Iksar. You prolly wanna fix that. :)

[Laugher]

It takes some time. I had a similar problem. [..] You'll probably want to quit by your 20s, but stick it out and you'll get back to enjoying this fantastic game very soon.

I'd say this sums it up.

I started about 3-4 chars here before I chose a main. The reason why my main made 55 was because I kept coming back to em; there was some staying value in being a druid because all the right incentives were in place (money groups soloability etc.) So even if it does end up taking more or less time because of an xp penalty gearing soloability etc. pick something you think you'd like to play or continue playing after a hiatus. :)

[Ravager]

Don't be afraid to spend your training points on mend after you put one point into new skills. Mend is a bitch to skill up to begin with otherwise. Also you should have no problem soloing wisps in NK with that gear. Turn the lightstones in to Myrsilia at the camp for 2% exp and the greater lightstones in for 4% exp. Sell the books back to her for good plat. You'll be 17 in no time and get FD and then soloing gets way easier because you have a panic button. I soloed an untwinked monk to 35 and could keep going with it, but other alts call me. Soloing a monk really isn't that difficult as long as you know your limits and where to go.

[squarez]

you have all you need to succeed, just practice

get that bind wound, FD, sneak all up ->

make sure you are reading the wiki on the class as well, there are still a lot of monks that don't kill their auto before FD

[Zliz]

Unless you're getting PL'd I don't see the need to spend points in Mend, I would max it out naturally as I levelled along in FoB and Kurn's. Just click it every time it's up, and once you get it to 50+ you can start saving it for when you need it (and pray it doesn't fail).

[Ravager]

Unless you're getting PL'd I don't see the need to spend points in Mend, I would max it out naturally as I levelled along in FoB and Kurn's. Just click it every time it's up, and once you get it to 50+ you can start saving it for when you need it (and pray it doesn't fail).

6 minute cool down makes it take a long time to cap. I really don't see any other skill a monk has that I'd rather spend the points on, except maybe bind wound, but by the time you want to spend the points to cap that, you're at 51 and just want to get it to 201 for the 70%, and you should have plenty of points for that if you've been using bind wound on a regular basis the entire time.

[Zliz]

I guess you're right that there's nothing better to spend points on.... but as a matter of principle I can't help saving them :)

For me though, I just capped it naturally, particularly during the long teens grind.

[Nubben]

Yeah I'd say that Mend and FD are the two things you'll want to dump the most points into as a Monk. Mend because it will raise so slowly on its own, and FD because you want to get it to a (somewhat) reliable skill level as fast as possible!

[Heebo]

Expecting bards to mez and charm before they even get the songs is a little futile imo.

[Flintt]

Awesome replies everyone, thank you for the tips and advice. I will stick it out with the monk and stick to solo-trio groups for now.



Also, I wouldn't recommend doing big groups at low levels, but instead look for a duo partner. Being 5-6 people in a group slowly pulling newbie mobs and having to deal with AFKs, overpulls, different mindsets, etc. is simply not worth it, and by that I mean the XP will be crap and it's more annoying than good. If you can find a priest or caster to duo with, that will rock.

I have really noticed that bigger groups are less effective. One of the best groups I have had so far, I was only grouped with only 2 rogues lol.

Greacenthe I sill send you a tell ingame to find you.

[Flintt]

Expecting bards to mez and charm before they even get the songs is a little futile imo.

Would a lull be asking too much?

[DarkwingDuck]

^^ bards get mez at like 8.. Or early teens either way.. It's low.
Ya send a tell man, I just hit 20, and am loggin in again soon hehe

Greacenthe

[Doil_Boil]

Heebo, I love your sig.

[Fame]

Come play on red bruh, let the pixels wash over you

[nicemace]

sneak > fd for pulling. get ya sneak up first.

[stakha]

^^ bards get mez at like 8.. Or early teens either way.. It's low.
Ya send a tell man, I just hit 20, and am loggin in again soon hehe

Greacenthe

Level 15. It's a single tick ae mez, which is often resisted.

[Clark]

Monk is less gear dependent than a warrior; I would say stick with the monk. Just grind it out man - there is no real secret to Evequest

This, and get EC tunnel buffs often. Especially Skin like Nature for 72min added hp and hp regen.