Derubael

[Terpuntine]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/IdOlFaNaTiC89/GIF%20folder/ianbeg.gif

[Littlegyno 10.0]

https://camo.thechunk.net/8f81e5912c374c427bc6e22f10ee1f02b46e2ee8?url=http% 3A%2F%2F37.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_mbswzlrXbm1r5 c792o1_400.gif

[Tacitus]

https://camo.thechunk.net/8f81e5912c374c427bc6e22f10ee1f02b46e2ee8?url=http% 3A%2F%2F37.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_mbswzlrXbm1r5 c792o1_400.gif

:p

[Smedy]

dat karma tho

[yevea]

dat karma tho

i like the new avatar

[Buhbuh]

dat karma tho

very ironic coming from this person.

[Eslade]

Smedy is a saint.

[Smedy]

jesus hath blessed me with an opportunity, light was shed upon me as i did gods work

no rules were broken that day, praise be to the 100 virgins and muhammed the great for i am innocent

[Colgate]

real disappointed in digital

[Littlegyno 10.0]

said it before, ill say it again: never trust a european.

[SamwiseRed]

this is how world wars start. i hope deru can fix this.

[Kaahbal]

If you guys provide evidence on rules being broken, I, the great leader of <Circle of Trust>, Kaahb Jong-Guk, will make sure that slaps on the wrists will be dealt out swiftly and with great justice.

http://i.usatoday.net/news/_photos/2011/12/19/Power-struggle-possible-in-North-Korea-MIO0SF2-x-large.jpg

[Took]

Sad to see these fucks gloating about their dirtball shit.

[Kaahbal]

this is how world wars start. i hope deru can fix this.

When no rules are broken.... What needs fixing?

There is an saying.

In communism, you'd threaten a dog into compliance, while in capitalism, obedience is obtained through bribes.




http://i1.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article157149.ece/alternates/s615/north-korean-leader-kim-jong-un-posing-for-photos-with-soldiers-897615547.jpg

[Bazia]

everyone in that picture looks like a mummy

[feelz]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/IdOlFaNaTiC89/GIF%20folder/ianbeg.gif

http://i.imgur.com/PXOUQcF.png

[iiNGloriouS]

If you guys provide evidence on rules being broken, I, the great leader of <Circle of Trust>, Kaahb Jong-Guk, will make sure that slaps on the wrists will be dealt out swiftly and with great justice.

http://i.usatoday.net/news/_photos/2011/12/19/Power-struggle-possible-in-North-Korea-MIO0SF2-x-large.jpg

Pras Kaahb Jong-Guk

[Kaahbal]

Apparently a rule is broken here.

There are several options for obtaining support for Project 1999.

Ingame petitions may be submitted for immediate or simple support needs, such as stuck characters, name changes, etc. Petitions / Reports should be posted in the Petition forum. Before posting, please read the announcement in the forum.

DO NOT send direct /tells or PM's to GM's for assistance, or you risk action taken against your account.

OP can contact me in game for a slap on the wrist.

/ Thread

[ExedOut]

Someone fill me in. These shitbags mad about what?

[Swish]

https://camo.thechunk.net/8f81e5912c374c427bc6e22f10ee1f02b46e2ee8?url=http% 3A%2F%2F37.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_mbswzlrXbm1r5 c792o1_400.gif

http://media.giphy.com/media/O5o270Y0gRz8I/giphy.gif

[Kaahbal]

Holocaust mad claiming that members of CoT "schindlers list"'d something (from what im understanding from vague accusations with no posted proof of said deeds.)

Since no rules have indeed been broken, the good peoples democratic republic of Guk will emerge victorious from the battle.

Anything else would set a new prejudice which would require the constitution of Red99 to be altered.

I think of you all minions, may the light shine upon thee.

http://totallycoolpix.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/25042014_kim_jong_un_ladies_man/kim_jong_un_ladies_man_004.jpg

[Stalos_]

Someone get stripped?

What did the sweds have to do with it?

Some account Sharon gone wrong?
I will go across the hall and get Penny and we can road trip to Stockholm to retrieve pixels.

[Smedy]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_WHZoou4RmQ4/S_g-rsfJ6AI/AAAAAAAAABI/L2NZnj5yVR4/s1600/funny-dog-pictures-schocked-innocent-dog.jpg

[Mac Drettj]

Every malicious stripping in history of box has been punished

The "no rules were broken clause" doesn't work

[Juhstin]

Uh oh, who shared account info like an idiot?

[Genedin]

This whole situation, and all of the character stripping is totally fucked. Punishments should be handed out to the full extent of the law.

[daasgoot]

this makes me sad..

have some goddamn honor.

[Elspeth]

real disappointed in digital

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5oazlsb0q1qz6f4b.jpg

[derpcake]

said it before, ill say it again: never trust a european.

As a Belgian I have to comment.

We famous for 3 things; waffles, chocolate, and pedophiles. I have to admit we mostly came up with the waffles & chocolate to lure kids though.

Also we don't take shit overly serious.

[Kaahbal]

I do await Thakisis to get assistance in returning all his gear that was stolen from him also.

Including 2 manastones, manna robe, BCG etc.. we will see if a new prejudice is set or not.

Either way he is in the clear, the peoples democratic republic of guk has his back.

[Infectious]

How is it punishment to strip characters when they tell you your shit willnt be returned and to not give info out?
This shit happens every 3 months and people act all surprised and shit...

[Nirgon]

derpcake we kew?

[derpcake]

How come this board has so many internet though guy nerds, but noone has ever used their time after char deletion to create some forum worthy content?

At least paint a dick on their lawn and post pics, plenty of free salt around here.

[derpcake]

derpcake we kew?

You the man, I told you so ingame.

Your memory seems worse then mine though bro, dats some flakey shit :p

[derpcake]

How is it punishment to strip characters when they tell you your shit willnt be returned and to not give info out?
This shit happens every 3 months and people act all surprised and shit...

Its not classic.

[Kaahbal]

I just recieved a RL threat in game from a random toon that logged off right after... way to behave #Holocaust pals... let me spell this out for you..

I AM NOT INVOLVED IN ANY OF THIS SHIT

Seriously guys, this is elf sim.....

[Nirgon]

Live ruling was
Give shit back = suspension
Snub GMs/player needing stuff back = ban

[Smedy]

Following rules of #red99 though, i think rl threats are bannable, surely our great leader will send in logs of this crime and gms will have to take justice.

[vinnidel]

I do await Thakisis to get assistance in returning all his gear that was stolen from him also.

Including 2 manastones, manna robe, BCG etc.. we will see if a new prejudice is set or not.

Either way he is in the clear, the peoples democratic republic of guk has his back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDlnA1Bk0Ac

[Pudge]

i need to hear the details. was this deed done at 3am, 2 sneaky conspirators quietly breathing hhehhh hehhhh hhhheeehhhhhhhhhhhhh... or was it like 2 in the afternoon and smedy says "i'm bored. lets start some drama and snag some pixels from this evil-doer, robin hood style."?

[Clark]

How is it punishment to strip characters when they tell you your shit willnt be returned and to not give info out?
This shit happens every 3 months and people act all surprised and shit...

agreed if you share info pvp you're a dumbass

it's a freaking pvp server be men

freaking pussys I swear lol nobody gives a shit that some dude got owned on

[Kaahbal]

http://fedgeno.com/good-good-let-the-jimmies-rustle-through-you.png

[Dis_Still_Mornin]

I'm all for the don't share your password rule that I thought was in place on this box.. but apparently it isn't the rule looking at all the hammers slammed down on strippers ex. Vibrate retti etc.... But all I will say on this is I am sad to see gyno, an innocent by stander, affected by this travesty. And I ask azrael and rest of the box... Are you positive you want to play this game.. cause when it comes to playing the scum game.. holo roster full of ballers

[Buhbuh]

Ya, gotta believe a holocaust is coming if this goes unchecked.

[Kaahbal]

Defrauding

Fraud quite simply is the act of unfaithful trade or negotations with another party. This includes false representations of your intentions. This can be lieing, deceiving, slandering, falsely representing yourself or impersonating another player, which ultimately results in the loss or damage of currency, items, camps, reputation, etc of another player.

This behavior can result in disciplinary action against your account if found responsible by a CSR.

Note that players are responsible for taking necessary steps to protect themselves in all transactions. Do not trust a player's word that he/she will return with the other half of a trade. Since the responsibility is on the player, the CSR will most likely not be able to get your items or currency back.

This includes giving anyone access to your account. YOU are responsible for the actions of anyone on your account. This includes the loss of any virtual property as well as an disciplinary received for their actions while on your account. In general, do not share your login information.

[Kaahbal]

Just so we all know what the rulebook say...

My thoughts are with gyno the innocent bystander however..

[Sektor]

Changed all of my passwords as we speak, to much lameness going down, afraid to trust anyone these days.

[heartbrand]

My advice?

http://imageshack.com/a/img540/782/QWNYYs.jpg

[Dis_Still_Mornin]

Game on?

[Smedy]

Ya, gotta believe a holocaust is coming if this goes unchecked.

Will this include more death threats or perhaps ddos attacks?

Keep it classy holo :-) keep it within the rules

[Smedy]

My advice?

http://imageshack.com/a/img540/782/QWNYYs.jpg

oh mayn, so good

[Smedy]

Game on?

mornin always my pal though what game u wanna play? could go for some battlefield

[Buhbuh]

8) always

[Mac Drettj]

i have some interesting azrael accounts

not sure if we wanna start ww3 or not

[Burgerking]

i have some interesting azrael accounts

not sure if we wanna start ww3 or not

Ohhhhh shit!

I don't think ya'll wanna fuck with Silky Johnson

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-HpXR0n3nfBI/U5cuAQCR8KI/AAAAAAAAN6k/MZCYOdRAgoE/s1600/Silky+Johnson.gif

[Smedy]

the dear great leader once told me don't do stupid shit to people and stupid shit won't happen to you

[Kringe]

I'm all for the don't share your password rule that I thought was in place on this box.. but apparently it isn't the rule looking at all the hammers slammed down on strippers ex. Vibrate retti etc.... But all I will say on this is I am sad to see gyno, an innocent by stander, affected by this travesty. And I ask azrael and rest of the box... Are you positive you want to play this game.. cause when it comes to playing the scum game.. holo roster full of ballers


I wouldn't say so, Xylaw knowingly has an account that is mine, I don't see what the difference is in stripping an account and stealing one... /shrug That's the problem with red99, shit happens to some and doesn't happened to others for the same reasons.

[Sektor]

Make sure Holo keeps me out of this, same goes for anything to do with account stripping.

[Nirgon]

mornin always my pal though what game u wanna play?

http://media.giphy.com/media/3djYKPkyh5sXu/giphy.gif

[fiegi 8.0]

smedy and kahhbal bro'in out again??

warms my god damn heart!

[Eslade]

Changed all of my passwords as we speak, to much lameness going down, afraid to trust anyone these days.

Sorry grimpal, blame your guild for threats.

[Labanen]

said it before, ill say it again: never trust a swede.ftfy

[Bazia]

why was vibrate banned for stripping cell a week ago and this goes unpunished

makes zero sense

[Kaahbal]

I, the great leader, shackled my accused minions in chains and threatned to slap wrists but as it seems i have been told that this have been done "by the book" in a legal way and that the server staff is up to pace with said actions being taken.

Do not get me wrong children, the last thing the peoples democratic republic of guk wants is for you to have your jimmies rustled. I hope that ALL the people who ever got stripped gets reimbursed, Sadly that would require Gms to employ people to logquest.

[Kaahbal]

I would also like if everyone could add the innocent bystander Gyno into their evening prayers.

[Kaahbal]

Ya'll need to sit down, talk shit out and figure out a way to go on with your lives...

I know i love trollin forumquest and for me its all fun and games, but when i recieve rl threats, someones jimmies are way to rustled for shit to be fun.

Remember that this a freaking 15 year old elf simulator.... Not real life.

Cheers pals. Im out of this thread.

[Littlegyno 10.0]

Ya'll need to sit down, talk shit out and figure out a way to go on with your lives...

I know i love trollin forumquest and for me its all fun and games, but when i recieve rl threats, someones jimmies are way to rustled for shit to be fun.

Remember that this a freaking 15 year old elf simulator.... Not real life.

Cheers pals. Im out of this thread.

stealing aon crossed the border from elf sim to rl. prepare urselves.

[Fame]

Gaffin what are all the rumors about? Real pals worried irl ya know?

[snufzaimoverlord]

Pretty disgusting.

[Loadsamoney]

Ya'll need to sit down, talk shit out and figure out a way to go on with your lives...

I know i love trollin forumquest and for me its all fun and games, but when i recieve rl threats, someones jimmies are way to rustled for shit to be fun.

Remember that this a freaking 15 year old elf simulator.... Not real life.

Cheers pals. Im out of this thread.

Well you just troll people on a forum and get them all angry and pissed off, and not expect a few of them to take it seriously and react with threats like that.

It goes without saying, if you don't want RL threats, don't make waves.

[baalzy]

Digital chicken bones are no laughing matter. Is your body ready?

[Technique]

ITT: Grown men with kindergarten mentalities begging teacher to intervene in dispute over toys.

What a generation.

[Tradesonred]

ITT: Grown men with kindergarten mentalities begging teacher to intervene in dispute over toys.

What a generation.

Terp is one of the worst manchild ive come across on red, he just hides behind this i-know-what-im-doing facade barking out orders, but as soon as you poke holes in how weak his game is, he goes batshit.

Im glad he got Karma'd

Let him beg for a month and then deny him, because how much fucking times do you guys need to hear to not share accounts, before you get it?

[Pitborn]

Make sure Holo keeps me out of this, same goes for anything to do with account stripping.

From the guy who took items from , and then stole 2 of my accounts.

Just give me the info, and ill do the work.

[Buhbuh]

Terp is one of the worst manchild ive come across on red, he just hides behind this i-know-what-im-doing facade barking out orders, but as soon as you poke holes in how weak his game is, he goes batshit.

Im glad he got Karma'd

Let him beg for a month and then deny him, because how much fucking times do you guys need to hear to not share accounts, before you get it?

You're not really capable of poking holes in his "facade" when you're one of the worst players to ever grace Red99, albeit one of the more articulate ones.

[Tradesonred]

You're not really capable of poking holes in his "facade" when you're one of the worst players to ever grace Red99, albeit one of the more articulate ones.

Well i did poke a hole in his facade once, and he did lose his shit, dont need to prove im capable, it happened.

As for my ladder rank on 99, i never pretended to be an "elite" player. My care-o-meter never got high enough to play EQ more than semi-casually (partly because i thought the server was going nowhere with how toxic alot of people are and killed my interest in the game, and red is the game) and learn all the spreadsheety stuff, game is just too old and I can only get immersed knee-deep. The last time i played EQ with any sort of interest was in 2002, i didnt have 4 years of prepping on VZTZ like other people did.

That being said, anyone who played any small length of time with me can say, if hes not out to try to score forum quest points, that im certainly not among the worst players. I may not have picked a class that gets alot of YT's but you rarely saw my name there as well beside large group pvp, because im able to gauge which fights i should pick. Not the best, but certainly not among the worst. I still get a chuckle thinking about Dacuk zoning in after i chased an Az off the DL skeleton PH, probably thinking he was gonna wipe the floor with me and zoned out at 74% with his tail between his legs after i kited his ass, one of the guys dissing me on forums about how bad i suck.

What im usually good at, is common sense. I dont care how many fucking timers you know by heart, know the ins and outs of each raid encounter, i barely knew EQ and i still had to tell Andis not to make the group gather and sit at the lava druid ring when the goal is to hit Sol B. You dont shit on people when youre wrong and theyre right, like Nizzar (and Terp) did often, that kind of stuff.

I dont know EQ that well, but i was one of the few to tell Lite it was stupid to sit at Seb entrance for hours waiting to get crushed by Nihilum when half the guild was 56, the harsh grind was on and there was a double xp bonus going on.

Thats the same common sense thing i gave to Terp and he lost his shit.

Being a good player also means leaving room for criticism, which i mostly always welcome. Lite might be better than me at the game, but he "Plateau's" because he cant take criticism and thinks so highly of his game, like Terp. He also has no vision for leading a guild, it was obvious in the long run fucking people over repeatedly wasnt gonna end well, im not that good at EQ but i saw that coming when i quit Azrael like 2 years ago. Throwing a temper tantrum when you are obviously wrong like Terp did, because not losing face is more important than guild cohesion, thats also sucking at the game, its sucking at the meta-game.

Also not dumb enough to give my accounts info to people when its obvious most of these guys would strip my toon and RMT it for 4 Xanax's and not think about it twice, hows that for not sucking at the meta-game.

Guess when youre too busy laughing it up with "bros" at how much of a fag some random guy is, you might not see that coming.

[Utanven]

This inconsistency is the reason I can't stand to play here anymore. Some rules get enforced sometimes for some people and other times not. Some petitions get processed while others are trolled or ignored with little (or no) explanation. It's their sandbox and they do what they want on a case by case basis. Have fun pals.

[Eslade]

This inconsistency is the reason I can't stand to play here anymore. Some rules get enforced sometimes for some people and other times not. Some petitions get processed while others are trolled or ignored with little (or no) explanation. It's their sandbox and they do what they want on a case by case basis. Have fun pals.

http://www.shadowserv.net/quoticons/tombstone-well-bye.gif

[mostbitter]

Feel free to check the logs surrounding all the items lite and powered took from my accounts while yall are at it thanks

[mostbitter]

Well i did poke a hole in his facade once, and he did lose his shit, dont need to prove im capable, it happened.

As for my ladder rank on 99, i never pretended to be an "elite" player. My care-o-meter never got high enough to play EQ more than semi-casually (partly because i thought the server was going nowhere with how toxic alot of people are and killed my interest in the game, and red is the game) and learn all the spreadsheety stuff, game is just too old and I can only get immersed knee-deep. The last time i played EQ with any sort of interest was in 2002, i didnt have 4 years of prepping on VZTZ like other people did.

That being said, anyone who played any small length of time with me can say, if hes not out to try to score forum quest points, that im certainly not among the worst players. I may not have picked a class that gets alot of YT's but you rarely saw my name there as well beside large group pvp, because im able to gauge which fights i should pick. Not the best, but certainly not among the worst. I still get a chuckle thinking about Dacuk zoning in after i chased an Az off the DL skeleton PH, probably thinking he was gonna wipe the floor with me and zoned out at 74% with his tail between his legs after i kited his ass, one of the guys dissing me on forums about how bad i suck.

What im usually good at, is common sense. I dont care how many fucking timers you know by heart, know the ins and outs of each raid encounter, i barely knew EQ and i still had to tell Andis not to make the group gather and sit at the lava druid ring when the goal is to hit Sol B. You dont shit on people when youre wrong and theyre right, like Nizzar (and Terp) did often, that kind of stuff.

I dont know EQ that well, but i was one of the few to tell Lite it was stupid to sit at Seb entrance for hours waiting to get crushed by Nihilum when half the guild was 56, the harsh grind was on and there was a double xp bonus going on.

Thats the same common sense thing i gave to Terp and he lost his shit.

Being a good player also means leaving room for criticism, which i mostly always welcome. Lite might be better than me at the game, but he "Plateau's" because he cant take criticism and thinks so highly of his game, like Terp. He also has no vision for leading a guild, it was obvious in the long run fucking people over repeatedly wasnt gonna end well, im not that good at EQ but i saw that coming when i quit Azrael like 2 years ago. Throwing a temper tantrum when you are obviously wrong like Terp did, because not losing face is more important than guild cohesion, thats also sucking at the game, its sucking at the meta-game.

Also not dumb enough to give my accounts info to people when its obvious most of these guys would strip my toon and RMT it for 4 Xanax's and not think about it twice, hows that for not sucking at the meta-game.

Guess when youre too busy laughing it up with "bros" at how much of a fag some random guy is, you might not see that coming.


damn this guy never gonna get a fungi tunic

[Eslade]

Well i did poke a hole in his facade once, and he did lose his shit, dont need to prove im capable, it happened.

As for my ladder rank on 99, i never pretended to be an "elite" player. My care-o-meter never got high enough to play EQ more than semi-casually (partly because i thought the server was going nowhere with how toxic alot of people are and killed my interest in the game, and red is the game) and learn all the spreadsheety stuff, game is just too old and I can only get immersed knee-deep. The last time i played EQ with any sort of interest was in 2002, i didnt have 4 years of prepping on VZTZ like other people did.

That being said, anyone who played any small length of time with me can say, if hes not out to try to score forum quest points, that im certainly not among the worst players. I may not have picked a class that gets alot of YT's but you rarely saw my name there as well beside large group pvp, because im able to gauge which fights i should pick. Not the best, but certainly not among the worst. I still get a chuckle thinking about Dacuk zoning in after i chased an Az off the DL skeleton PH, probably thinking he was gonna wipe the floor with me and zoned out at 74% with his tail between his legs after i kited his ass, one of the guys dissing me on forums about how bad i suck.

What im usually good at, is common sense. I dont care how many fucking timers you know by heart, know the ins and outs of each raid encounter, i barely knew EQ and i still had to tell Andis not to make the group gather and sit at the lava druid ring when the goal is to hit Sol B. You dont shit on people when youre wrong and theyre right, like Nizzar (and Terp) did often, that kind of stuff.

I dont know EQ that well, but i was one of the few to tell Lite it was stupid to sit at Seb entrance for hours waiting to get crushed by Nihilum when half the guild was 56, the harsh grind was on and there was a double xp bonus going on.

Thats the same common sense thing i gave to Terp and he lost his shit.

Being a good player also means leaving room for criticism, which i mostly always welcome. Lite might be better than me at the game, but he "Plateau's" because he cant take criticism and thinks so highly of his game, like Terp. He also has no vision for leading a guild, it was obvious in the long run fucking people over repeatedly wasnt gonna end well, im not that good at EQ but i saw that coming when i quit Azrael like 2 years ago. Throwing a temper tantrum when you are obviously wrong like Terp did, because not losing face is more important than guild cohesion, thats also sucking at the game, its sucking at the meta-game.

Also not dumb enough to give my accounts info to people when its obvious most of these guys would strip my toon and RMT it for 4 Xanax's and not think about it twice, hows that for not sucking at the meta-game.

Guess when youre too busy laughing it up with "bros" at how much of a fag some random guy is, you might not see that coming.

Can honestly say that not one word was read.

[pingpong]

Well i did poke a hole in his facade once, and he did lose his shit, dont need to prove im capable, it happened.

As for my ladder rank on 99, i never pretended to be an "elite" player. My care-o-meter never got high enough to play EQ more than semi-casually (partly because i thought the server was going nowhere with how toxic alot of people are and killed my interest in the game, and red is the game) and learn all the spreadsheety stuff, game is just too old and I can only get immersed knee-deep. The last time i played EQ with any sort of interest was in 2002, i didnt have 4 years of prepping on VZTZ like other people did.

That being said, anyone who played any small length of time with me can say, if hes not out to try to score forum quest points, that im certainly not among the worst players. I may not have picked a class that gets alot of YT's but you rarely saw my name there as well beside large group pvp, because im able to gauge which fights i should pick. Not the best, but certainly not among the worst. I still get a chuckle thinking about Dacuk zoning in after i chased an Az off the DL skeleton PH, probably thinking he was gonna wipe the floor with me and zoned out at 74% with his tail between his legs after i kited his ass, one of the guys dissing me on forums about how bad i suck.

What im usually good at, is common sense. I dont care how many fucking timers you know by heart, know the ins and outs of each raid encounter, i barely knew EQ and i still had to tell Andis not to make the group gather and sit at the lava druid ring when the goal is to hit Sol B. You dont shit on people when youre wrong and theyre right, like Nizzar (and Terp) did often, that kind of stuff.

I dont know EQ that well, but i was one of the few to tell Lite it was stupid to sit at Seb entrance for hours waiting to get crushed by Nihilum when half the guild was 56, the harsh grind was on and there was a double xp bonus going on.

Thats the same common sense thing i gave to Terp and he lost his shit.

Being a good player also means leaving room for criticism, which i mostly always welcome. Lite might be better than me at the game, but he "Plateau's" because he cant take criticism and thinks so highly of his game, like Terp. He also has no vision for leading a guild, it was obvious in the long run fucking people over repeatedly wasnt gonna end well, im not that good at EQ but i saw that coming when i quit Azrael like 2 years ago. Throwing a temper tantrum when you are obviously wrong like Terp did, because not losing face is more important than guild cohesion, thats also sucking at the game, its sucking at the meta-game.

Also not dumb enough to give my accounts info to people when its obvious most of these guys would strip my toon and RMT it for 4 Xanax's and not think about it twice, hows that for not sucking at the meta-game.

Guess when youre too busy laughing it up with "bros" at how much of a fag some random guy is, you might not see that coming.

You are fucking pathetic.

[Derubael]

1) stop sharing account information. It gets harder and harder each time to lift one finger to help people who don't protect themselves.

2) that being said, if you strip someones account/delete their character/delete their items/plat, you are breaking the rules. go look around in the pnp around the fraud section. its a hilariously broadly defined rule that we can throw just about any malicious act into that is not covered anywhere else.

3) if you care about the server you wont do this shit because it just takes away valuable CSR time from other people who actually need help. Also, if you strip someones account, or get stripped by someone, do NOT come asking for me to hurry up or work faster or anything like that. i will suck up as much of your time as i damn well please because you are sucking up my time that should be spent on other peo~ple who legitimately need GM assistance. I get to them as quickly as I can but they get dealt with and put in the same line as everyone else's petition. If you can't accept this then don't share info/strip accounts.

<3,
~Deru

[Sektor]

1) stop sharing account information. It gets harder and harder each time to lift one finger to help people who don't protect themselves.

2) that being said, if you strip someones account/delete their character/delete their items/plat, you are breaking the rules. go look around in the pnp around the fraud section. its a hilariously broadly defined rule that we can throw just about any malicious act into that is not covered anywhere else.

3) if you care about the server you wont do this shit because it just takes away valuable CSR time from other people who actually need help. Also, if you strip someones account, or get stripped by someone, do NOT come asking for me to hurry up or work faster or anything like that. i will suck up as much of your time as i damn well please because you are sucking up my time that should be spent on other peo~ple who legitimately need GM assistance. I get to them as quickly as I can but they get dealt with and put in the same line as everyone else's petition. If you can't accept this then don't share info/strip accounts.

<3,
~Deru



Well said. People need to stop acting like lunatics. This is the 4th account stripping in the last month, people need to start eating bans.

[Casey VII]

Shoulda given me back my ringed mace when you had the chance, you know, instead of flat out ignoring me. Karma was had bra

[Smedy]

bans should be handed out for petitioning and wasting gms time when you have given your infos out and the rules states thats ur own problem

[sotto]

real disappointed in the beautiful red 99 community

thot u were better than this smedy

[Pudge]

1) stop sharing account information. It gets harder and harder each time to lift one finger to help people who don't protect themselves.

2) that being said, if you strip someones account/delete their character/delete their items/plat, you are breaking the rules. go look around in the pnp around the fraud section. its a hilariously broadly defined rule that we can throw just about any malicious act into that is not covered anywhere else.

3) if you care about the server you wont do this shit because it just takes away valuable CSR time from other people who actually need help. Also, if you strip someones account, or get stripped by someone, do NOT come asking for me to hurry up or work faster or anything like that. i will suck up as much of your time as i damn well please because you are sucking up my time that should be spent on other peo~ple who legitimately need GM assistance. I get to them as quickly as I can but they get dealt with and put in the same line as everyone else's petition. If you can't accept this then don't share info/strip accounts.

<3,
~Deru

There really should be a clear rule either way: either the GMs will always ban, track down and return items, or always ignore it and say "tough, you shared your info so deal with it".

Make a clearly defined rule, and either way it will happen less. If ppl know they will get banned & all items will be returned, then what's the point? On the other hand, if stripping is "legal" or a "no csr" situation, then there will be less account info shared, and less toons stripped.

Because the rules are written so that GMs can have it both ways, you might think it helps you do your job better.. But really it just creates more work for the GMs, on an already understaffed project.

[Dis_Still_Mornin]

There really should be a clear rule either way: either the GMs will always ban, track down and return items, or always ignore it and say "tough, you shared your info so deal with it".

Make a clearly defined rule, and either way it will happen less. If ppl know they will get banned & all items will be returned, then what's the point? On the other hand, if stripping is "legal" or a "no csr" situation, then there will be less account info shared, and less toons stripped.

Because the rules are written so that GMs can have it both ways, you might think it helps you do your job better.. But really it just creates more work for the GMs, on an already understaffed project.

As much as I don't like to get in to the whole you should do your job/hobby this way... Pudge is right.. I get the impression gms don't want to touch red because it is a pain in the Ass due to shit like this. So just make it easier for yourself.. make a clear rule. You share your info it's your problem. Deal with it.. but not in this case obv cause terp shud get his shit back. Pretty bad when last week vibrate eats ban for strip but as of right now nothing at least publicly has been done so far to help terp. Going forward I think clear cut rules is the way to make your life easier.. anything vauge and this community will just eat it up and give you a headache

[Eslade]

At this point, everybody who ever gave out their info should probably change it. Doesn't matter how much you trust somebody, they could just decide that deleting your shit will give them or their other friends lulz.

[Mac Drettj]

bans should be handed out for petitioning and wasting gms time when you have given your infos out and the rules states thats ur own problem



2) that being said, if you strip someones account/delete their character/delete their items/plat, you are breaking the rules. go look around in the pnp around the fraud section. its a hilariously broadly defined rule that we can throw just about any malicious act into that is not covered anywhere else.

<3,
~Deru

rip topdog

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no refunds elspeth

[Eslade]

rip topdog

http://media.tumblr.com/63bb171e3e6e05005fcc484a96454da9/tumblr_inline_n79by5zL741srd1je.gif

no refunds elspeth

Why so many fat people in that gif?

[sotto]

love the consistent rulings on red99.

[toolshed]

Why so many fat people in that gif?

America

[Burgerking]

bans should be handed out for petitioning and wasting gms time when you have given your infos out and the rules states thats ur own problem

As to people getting they're items back that is a question mark with each case. But Account stripping has ALWAYS resulted in a ban. There is like 10 ambiguously worded TOS rules they could throw at account stripping.

You been here since day one, and you didn't think you'd get catch a banstick up your ass... pure retardedness.

[Niedar]

People need to be smarter, get friends that don't play everquest to download the game and strip shit then hand pieces of gear to random newbies. Then there is no one to ban.

[mostbitter]

As to people getting they're items back that is a question mark with each case. But Account stripping has ALWAYS resulted in a ban. There is like 10 ambiguously worded TOS rules they could throw at account stripping.

You been here since day one, and you didn't think you'd get catch a banstick up your ass... pure retardedness.

No one took a ban when my accounts got stripped. Actually the only action taken against a player because of that was a 2 week suspension for me the victim of the theft.

[LulzSect]

http://c8.alamy.com/comp/BER6TC/Prohibited-sign-BER6TC.jpg

[Ezpk]

lol max

[heartbrand]

No one took a ban when my accounts got stripped. Actually the only action taken against a player because of that was a 2 week suspension for me the victim of the theft.

no1 cares about sum guy who got banned 4 stripping and deleting his guilds port bot

[Tradesonred]

No one took a ban when my accounts got stripped. Actually the only action taken against a player because of that was a 2 week suspension for me the victim of the theft.

Those people skills working their magic

[Burgerking]

No one took a ban when my accounts got stripped. Actually the only action taken against a player because of that was a 2 week suspension for me the victim of the theft.

I don't know how long you're rap sheet is, but if you have a long list of priors a GM is gonna be alot less likely to help a repeat offender. That's pretty much just common sense. I'm sure that delvling your warrior with the expressed purpose of griefing new player's off the box to lower pop didn't help your case.

[Smedy]

ya'll need jesus

[Derubael]

There really should be a clear rule either way: either the GMs will always ban, track down and return items, or always ignore it and say "tough, you shared your info so deal with it".

Make a clearly defined rule, and either way it will happen less. If ppl know they will get banned & all items will be returned, then what's the point? On the other hand, if stripping is "legal" or a "no csr" situation, then there will be less account info shared, and less toons stripped.

Because the rules are written so that GMs can have it both ways, you might think it helps you do your job better.. But really it just creates more work for the GMs, on an already understaffed project.

We've been pretty consistent as of late. I've more or less handled all the account strip petitions on Red since the Agatha/Lite incident, and while each one gets handled just a little bit differently, for any account strip you can almost guarantee that:

1) Any account that ends up with a stripped item on it will be banned, unless it's given to an unsuspecting third party in which case the item will probably just get deleted.
2)The person who had their shit stripped will probably not get it back. It will likely just sit on the banned accounts.

Tracking down and summoning an entire inventory full of items is a pain in the ass, especially for something you could have (and should have) prevented by not sharing your account information. On the flip side, you're a scumbag if you strip a friend who trusted you with their information, and if you use those items for fun and profit on a main character you can probably kiss that shit goodbye.

As much as I don't like to get in to the whole you should do your job/hobby this way... Pudge is right.. I get the impression gms don't want to touch red because it is a pain in the Ass due to shit like this. So just make it easier for yourself.. make a clear rule. You share your info it's your problem. Deal with it.. but not in this case obv cause terp shud get his shit back. Pretty bad when last week vibrate eats ban for strip but as of right now nothing at least publicly has been done so far to help terp. Going forward I think clear cut rules is the way to make your life easier.. anything vauge and this community will just eat it up and give you a headache

Nothing ever gets done publicly. Not even supposed to talk about bans as per nilbog, and you'd better believe we follow that rule pretty fucking closely when its coming from the project manager.

No one took a ban when my accounts got stripped. Actually the only action taken against a player because of that was a 2 week suspension for me the victim of the theft.


YES. WE KNOW. ITS NOT FAIR. YOU POST ABOUT IT AT LEAST ONCE A DAY.

Maybe you shouldn't have shared your account information. That way, you wouldn't have to kick and scream about the staff not tracking your stupid fungi getting handed back and forth between you and 50 other people and between all of them and 50 more people to try and find out where the thing actually ended up.

http://www.quickmeme.com/img/74/7467c78954470032f3ea7e25252bc89019062ff4287a41d134 a4998f6b22db7e.jpg

I spent more than enough time looking into your situation and with the amount of sharing you had done with that toon I couldn't even figure out who owned what and where it all went and where it all should be. I'm not the only staff member who came to this conclusion (3 others did before me). You are one preventable fuck-up in a sea of unpreventable fuck-ups, and we did all we could to help you. Accept that and please move on.

<3

and stop sharing your account info, you preventable fuck-ups.

[Eslade]

LOL

[Loadsamoney]

Glenzig for Moderator. Pay his salary. Do it.

[Colgate]

derubael, why not just permaban the people that have the items and resummon them for the person stripped? should be easy to do based on the trade logs from the initial stripping right?

it doesn't seem relevant to have to also delete all the items if they're just getting b&

[Eslade]

derubael, why not just permaban the people that have the items and resummon them for the person stripped? should be easy to do based on the trade logs from the initial stripping right?

it doesn't seem relevant to have to also delete all the items if they're just getting b&

Then people wouldn't care who they give their info to because the gms will just resummon the stuff. Creating a whole new backlog of petitions.

Tldr
More unnecessary work for gms.

[Colgate]

i mean in this specific case where someone shared their info before the GMs set ANY kind of policy, changed their info at least half a dozen times since then, and then still got hacked

seems kind of lame to -1 pop when it's a total bullshit scenario

[Eslade]

I'd agree sir but it's hard to prove that you were hacked and everybody would use that reason.

Use stronger passwords.

[Buhbuh]

Well, other than being in opposing guilds with the players that stripped him and Terp / Smedy being very unfond of one another/ Smedy holding a decade long rustled grudge against Terp for abusing GM powers on a doomed, shit server Voidd said he was shutting down after Terp spent a month coding for a Velious release.

[Colgate]

pretty easy to see that terp changed his password, didn't log in for 12 days, during which the only people who logged onto Pyrokinetic were smedy/digital who stripped/deleted everything on him and the only people who logged onto Miley were me(playing her during VP) and smedy/digital who stripped everything off of her and put it on a character named Beat

i don't think it's a very believable scenario that terp would have given his info to digital or smedy when smedy has been spamming the forums for years about how much he hates terp

[Eslade]

Could have been someone with access gave the info. Gms have already said that hacking a password is very rare.

[Bazia]

was brute forced not shared

[Eslade]

So they brute forced his username and password
http://i.imgur.com/seh6p.gif


Calling inside job shenanigans.

[Colgate]

they had his username from years ago when he shared it before the GMs had set any kind of policy

he changed his password half a dozen times since then

doesn't take a rocket surgeon to understand that this was a bullshit scenario

[Bazia]

got mellowyellowed

[Tradesonred]

YES. WE KNOW. ITS NOT FAIR. YOU POST ABOUT IT AT LEAST ONCE A DAY.

Maybe you shouldn't have shared your account information. That way, you wouldn't have to kick and scream about the staff not tracking your stupid fungi getting handed back and forth between you and 50 other people and between all of them and 50 more people to try and find out where the thing actually ended up.


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[Swish]

http://cdn3.vox-cdn.com/imported_assets/2279948/ipWW8ZafqTAqc.gif

^ :D

[Casey VII]

Still no word on my ringed mace. Close this worthless thread.

[Kaahbal]

I hope Thakisis can get his gear back asap if new rules get implemented.

[Tradesonred]

bans should be handed out for petitioning and wasting gms time when you have given your infos out and the rules states thats ur own problem

Hard to argue against that. How long as it been since weve been told not to share accounts, 2 years?

If the account's been brute forced, i guess dish out permabans but knowing Terp's character i wouldnt put any kind of money on that scenario. If youre gonna put time in there to investigate, id do thorough research and if you can prove it wasnt brute forced then id permaban every character Terp ever touched with any regularity, just to make an exemple out of wasting a GMs time and sharing accounts.

[Samhain]

Could have been someone with access gave the info. Gms have already said that hacking a password is very rare.
It may be rare but it happenz. I had an account that I never shared with anyone get it's password cracked and gear stripped. In this case the GMs "knew what happened" and were very helpful in returning everything.:cool:

[magician]

man smedy shouldnt have started WW3

[Derubael]

I think terp actually said one of the people involved had his password.

Can't remember if that's true or not, but I thought that's what I remembered.

[Colgate]

I think terp actually said one of the people involved had his password.

Can't remember if that's true or not, but I thought that's what I remembered.

they did years ago, but he has changed his info at least half a dozen times since then

[Terpuntine]

I've changed my PW a whole bunch of times and there are times I have used PW's that ive used in the past. There is a chance that I used one that Digital had originally. Regardless it's someone I gave info out to at one time and I get to suffer the consequences for it now.

[Grimjaw]

this is why I play here also gms should never step in. easy. simple. tears.

[snufzaimoverlord]

Starting a grief war with Holo is like firing a bb gun at an enraged silver back gorilla with an atom bomb (cast) strapped to its back.

[Nirgon]

http://cdnimages2012.cgdata.com/121547_cgeu-475k-cu-tumblr-lm7jzrrxem1qjv48ho1-1280ufz.jpg

[Bazia]

poor gms

damn swedes

[Pokeman]

http://cdnimages2012.cgdata.com/121547_cgeu-475k-cu-tumblr-lm7jzrrxem1qjv48ho1-1280ufz.jpg

[Silent]

The war is just getting started from what I have heard

[Clark]

I don't know how long you're rap sheet is

your*

[Derubael]

they did years ago, but he has changed his info at least half a dozen times since then

I've changed my PW a whole bunch of times and there are times I have used PW's that ive used in the past. There is a chance that I used one that Digital had originally. Regardless it's someone I gave info out to at one time and I get to suffer the consequences for it now.

:(

this is much more likely than an actual hack. those really are exceedingly rare in every game and industry. It's simply easier to social engineer a password out of someone than it is to brute/crack it. Requires less effort/is more legal/requires little or no computer knowledge. Most "hacking" is actually a combination of soc. engineering and poor security practices. Use different passwords across different websites and accounts, and make them strong and secure. Yes its a pain in the ass. But it will keep your shit safe, and that's worth the inconvenience.

[Concave]

Man, people need to stop stripping accounts. What a lame way to play the game, no matter which tag yer wearin'.

[LastBoss]

Do NOT give your info to anyone or reuse an old password! ITS YOUR OWN DAMN FOULT!

stript account is stript deal with it... You don't see Thakisis whine about it on the forums?.

[Terpuntine]

Thakasis rmt'd his account. Also I havent whined once on the forum. Thats cute tho coming from one of the swedes thats rolling around with my pixels currently.

[LastBoss]

he did not RMT shit but yeah somone put up his info on some rmt site and didn't you strip someone?

Did you not start this post with a begger sign?

Please tell me what i stole? and prove it thanks.

[Swish]

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[Derubael]

Thakasis rmt'd his account. Also I havent whined once on the forum. Thats cute tho coming from one of the swedes thats rolling around with my pixels currently.

I don't think anyone is running around with your items ATM. Those accounts should all be locked. Going to try and play catch up this weekend on all the strips that were done this last week or so.

Looks like another case of staff arbitrarily deciding who they should or shouldnt punish over an unwritten rule they made up.

broad my ass, even if u got an F in reading comprehension the only interpretation of the current rules that can be extracted is that GM will not intervene if you share account info

Really? You should read them again:

9. You may not defraud other players.

Fraud is defined as falsely representing one's intentions to make a gain at another's expense. Examples of this activity include, but are not limited to, using deception to deprive another player of items, slandering another player or impersonating them with the intention of causing harm to that player's reputation, or falsely representing one's identity in order to gain access to another player's account or account information.

Fraud in all transactions between players may result in disciplinary action when confirmed by a P99CSR.

This is not permission to not watch out for yourself during interactions with players. Players may still scam or defraud you on Project 1999. It is your responsibility to protect yourself. The player who scammed you may be subject to disciplinary action, but there is no guarantee you will get your items or PP back. It is in your best interest to be wary of other players.

You are responsible for the people you let onto your account. Disciplinary action may be enacted upon your account even if you yourself were not responsible for any rule breaking. Do not share account info if you are not ready to deal with the consequences of someone else's actions.

Pretty sure this clearly spells out that fucking with someone else's account in any way falls under "fraud" and may end up getting you banned. Everyone involved in the last couple strips have had the exact same procedure used on them. All accounts with items banned (locked) until further review. That's it. That's literally the only step that has been taken. I made Exed and Gaffin talk for a bit so I could see if Gaffin is worth keeping around or if he's just going to do the same old bullshit again. This is the same procedure I've done for nearly every strip on Red99 after the Agatha/lite debacle. Sounds pretty consistent to me.

But let's not bother with all these "facts" and "truth". It's a lot harder to bitch when you have a GM doing what he's supposed to be doing.

tl;dr kindly fuck-off until you contribute something positive to the community. Once you've done that, continue to do positive things. Help the box grow. If you're not going to do that then get the fuck out because we don't want you here.

[qwerty]

Once a crook always a crook. Just like sektor

[Eslade]

God damn, Derubael has been back for about a week and you guys already pull this kind of shit?

This is why we can't have nice things.

[heartbrand]

All this drama makes things seem real exciting. Then I remember we are embarking on year three of Kunark.

[silo32]

Gaffins 4th banning? say it isn't so?

He's been banned on blue twice, and red once... but.. uhh give him another chance?

[lethdar]

Can confirm terp changes pw multiple times, always had to ask him for the new one when i came back from half year hiatuses to pvp with friends. :(

[VictomEyez]

Hopefully people get banned on their main accounts...and not their throw away accounts they dont care about or made for the purpose of the strip

[yevea]

God damn, Derubael has been back for about a week and you guys already pull this kind of shit?

This is why we can't have nice things.

[mostbitter]

I don't think anyone is running around with your items ATM. Those accounts should all be locked. Going to try and play catch up this weekend on all the strips that were done this last week or so.



Really? You should read them again:



Pretty sure this clearly spells out that fucking with someone else's account in any way falls under "fraud" and may end up getting you banned. Everyone involved in the last couple strips have had the exact same procedure used on them. All accounts with items banned (locked) until further review. That's it. That's literally the only step that has been taken. I made Exed and Gaffin talk for a bit so I could see if Gaffin is worth keeping around or if he's just going to do the same old bullshit again. This is the same procedure I've done for nearly every strip on Red99 after the Agatha/lite debacle. Sounds pretty consistent to me.

But let's not bother with all these "facts" and "truth". It's a lot harder to bitch when you have a GM doing what he's supposed to be doing.

tl;dr kindly fuck-off until you contribute something positive to the community. Once you've done that, continue to do positive things. Help the box grow. If you're not going to do that then get the fuck out because we don't want you here.

I don't remember any accounts getting locked/investigated when I got stripped. wot happen?

[mostbitter]

YES. WE KNOW. ITS NOT FAIR. YOU POST ABOUT IT AT LEAST ONCE A DAY.

Maybe you shouldn't have shared your account information. That way, you wouldn't have to kick and scream about the staff not tracking your stupid fungi getting handed back and forth between you and 50 other people and between all of them and 50 more people to try and find out where the thing actually ended up.



I spent more than enough time looking into your situation and with the amount of sharing you had done with that toon I couldn't even figure out who owned what and where it all went and where it all should be. I'm not the only staff member who came to this conclusion (3 others did before me). You are one preventable fuck-up in a sea of unpreventable fuck-ups, and we did all we could to help you. Accept that and please move on.



Moral of the story is that if you do enough back and forth character swapping with items you've stolen from someone than you can get away with it?

I kind of have trouble accepting what you're saying because in my opinion the response that I got was that I was being accused of lying about the situation before an investigation was really done. I posted dozens of screenshots showing the items being on my characters at different periods in the characters development and provided as much circumstantial proof as I could manage. In the end you based your decision on a story you got from the perpetrator of the crime. I really find that curious since Lite admitted to doing it on the forum.

Who got banned/suspended? Me. I really appreciate a lot of the work you do for red, and you've helped me out with a few other situations, but this is never going to sit well with me because I just don't feel like it was handled with consistency.

[Tradesonred]

Moral of the story is that if you do enough back and forth character swapping with items you've stolen from someone than you can get away with it?

I kind of have trouble accepting what you're saying because in my opinion the response that I got was that I was being accused of lying about the situation before an investigation was really done. I posted dozens of screenshots showing the items being on my characters at different periods in the characters development and provided as much circumstantial proof as I could manage. In the end you based your decision on a story you got from the perpetrator of the crime. I really find that curious since Lite admitted to doing it on the forum.

Who got banned/suspended? Me. I really appreciate a lot of the work you do for red, and you've helped me out with a few other situations, but this is never going to sit well with me because I just don't feel like it was handled with consistency.

Deru stop being tender with these people, its the reason why the server sucks, cuz the assholes have a stranglehold on the server. Here Mostbitter is implying you banned him for no reason or for bringing up an incident. Just clean house, stop wasting even one minute with trading accounts shenanigans, stop playing babysitter. Its not good for you or the server. Forum ban em all. Clean the forums of this shit.

If you for example ban Smedy for stripping Terp's account, then you validate Terp trading accounts in a way. Since Smedy is getting griefed back, that will only motivate people to keep trading accounts because theres a punishment at the other end possible if you strip an account. If you just stop even looking at trading account issues, the idea will settle in that you shouldnt be exchanging account info. Continuing to give attention to this only insures you some headache-inducing workload down the line. Your time IMO would be better spent as a GM organizing fun stuff for non-toxic fresh blood (and for you) on the server.

[mostbitter]

Ecoli you just have fungi colored glasses. I earned my suspension. I'm not saying what you're trying to imply at all.

[Clark]

:(

this is much more likely than an actual hack. those really are exceedingly rare in every game and industry. It's simply easier to social engineer a password out of someone than it is to brute/crack it. Requires less effort/is more legal/requires little or no computer knowledge. Most "hacking" is actually a combination of soc. engineering and poor security practices. Use different passwords across different websites and accounts, and make them strong and secure. Yes its a pain in the ass. But it will keep your shit safe, and that's worth the inconvenience.

Haha no idea how they do that stuff.

Maybe Tralina's new boyfriend hacked him.

[VictomEyez]

Tradesonred no one cares of your feelings..you hate terp..thats why you want smedy to get away with it and terp to not get his stuff back... stfu already with all the super long posts that no one reads, thanks.

deru already said it is against the rules to strip.delete.etc so expect it to be handled.

your input means nothing.

[Tradesonred]

Tradesonred no one cares of your feelings..you hate terp..thats why you want smedy to get away with it and terp to not get his stuff back... stfu already with all the super long posts that no one reads, thanks.

deru already said it is against the rules to strip.delete.etc so expect it to be handled.

your input means nothing.

My input isnt for you dumb fucks, its for deru. Probably a Terp smurf Forum Quest account i guess?

[Buhbuh]

how would your info be even remotely of service to derubael

the rules are clear cut, this is fraud

you hate terp, want derubael to punish him for something unrelated

you've got brain rot plz stop

[Tradesonred]

Im only replying for the sake of Deru, considering how manipulative some of you are and the gist of what im saying might get lost in the fog of war.


If you for example ban Smedy for stripping Terp's account, then you validate Terp trading accounts in a way. Since Smedy is getting griefed back, that will only motivate people to keep trading accounts because theres a punishment at the other end possible if you strip an account. If you just stop even looking at trading account issues, the idea will settle in that you shouldnt be exchanging account info. Continuing to give attention to this only insures you some headache-inducing workload down the line. Your time IMO would be better spent as a GM organizing fun stuff for non-toxic fresh blood (and for you) on the server.

If thats the rules, change them. Because its putting on Deru's shoulder a workload that would be better spent organizing stuff for the server. Stopping to deal at all with account sharing will go a long way in making people stop sharing their accounts because theres no protection. Share your account, it got stripped? Tough shit, we told you not to do it.

I dont give a fuck about Terp really, im glad he got stripped for personal reasons but really its just an opportunity that makes me think about this issue. Reinstate his shit this time for all i care, forget about Terp, dont get mindfucked by BuhBuh trying to make this issue about Terp. Stay focused on the idea that refusing to answer petitions about stripping will go a long way toward ramming the point through that if you share accounts its at your own risk and that this will free up GM time that can then be put on more positive shit, that isnt so boring for the GMs to do as well, like events.

Theyve got an agenda here, that Terp gets his shit back, i dont. Everything i put forward, even if you disagree with me, i do it in the interest of the server, hopefully thats starting to settle in for GMs that read me.

I was one of the few dissident voices that championed the removal of xp loss in pvp, im right on this too.

[Littlegyno 10.0]

Im only replying for the sake of Deru, considering how manipulative some of you are and the gist of what im saying might get lost in the fog of war.



If thats the rules, change them. Because its putting on Deru's shoulder a workload that would be better spent organizing stuff for the server. Stopping to deal at all with account sharing will go a long way in making people stop sharing their accounts because theres no protection. Share your account, it got stripped? Tough shit, we told you not to do it.

I dont give a fuck about Terp really, im glad he got stripped for personal reasons but really its just an opportunity that makes me think about this issue. Reinstate his shit this time for all i care, forget about Terp, dont get mindfucked by BuhBuh trying to make this issue about Terp. Stay focused on the idea that refusing to answer petitions about stripping will go a long way toward ramming the point through that if you share accounts its at your own risk.

Theyve got an agenda here, that Terp gets his shit back, i dont. Everything i put forward, even if you disagree with me, i do it in the interest of the server, hopefully thats starting to settle in for GMs that read me.

I was one of the few dissident voices that championed the removal of xp loss in pvp, im right on this too.

i'd love a standard too. either restore any deletions/thefts or don't.

rettiwalk banned for stripping/deleting mellowyellow and mellowyellow restored of all gear.

nobody banned for trav stripping deletion.

nobody banned for nothxu stripping.

so far nobody banned for terp stripping.

if terp doesn't get restored, then neither do the 30-40 azrael accounts that cast has deleted.

either way, holocaust crooting.

[LulzSect]

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[Tradesonred]

9. You may not defraud other players.

Fraud is defined as falsely representing one's intentions to make a gain at another's expense. Examples of this activity include, but are not limited to, using deception to deprive another player of items, slandering another player or impersonating them with the intention of causing harm to that player's reputation, or falsely representing one's identity in order to gain access to another player's account or account information.

Fraud in all transactions between players may result in disciplinary action when confirmed by a P99CSR.

This is not permission to not watch out for yourself during interactions with players. Players may still scam or defraud you on Project 1999. It is your responsibility to protect yourself. The player who scammed you may be subject to disciplinary action, but there is no guarantee you will get your items or PP back. It is in your best interest to be wary of other players.

You are responsible for the people you let onto your account. Disciplinary action may be enacted upon your account even if you yourself were not responsible for any rule breaking. Do not share account info if you are not ready to deal with the consequences of someone else's actions.

Account sharing is not supposed to happen, youre not supposed to do it. Once that sets in as an idea, why should GMs be involved in any way in resolving stuff that is associated with that?

An analogy would be someone dropping your coke down the toilet and you call the cops like wtf, this guy just dropped all my coke down the toilet, is there anything you could do about this? Cops say we might or might not reinstate your cocaine sir, but i wouldnt hold my breath for it, though flushing coke down the toilet clearly constitute you being victimized, and well be trying to track that coke down NYC's sewer network.

For the record i think the drug war is bullshit, but you get the point

[Buhbuh]

jesus

[Terpuntine]

Account sharing is not supposed to happen, youre not supposed to do it. Once that sets in as an idea, why should GMs be involved in any way in resolving stuff that is associated with that?

An analogy would be someone dropping your coke down the toilet and you call the cops like wtf, this guy just dropped all my coke down the toilet, is there anything you could do about this? Cops say we might or might not reinstate your cocaine sir, but i wouldnt hold my breath for it, though flushing coke down the toilet clearly constitute you being victimized, and well be trying to track that coke down NYC's sewer network.

For the record i think the drug war is bullshit, but you get the point


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[Tradesonred]

Yeah Buhbuh lol you could have ripped on me for that one, but you see, im able to admit i was wrong, i spoke too quickly etc...

So i corrected my mistake, made amends, changed my viewpoint instead of entrenching myself in my initial position

See the difference

[Buhbuh]

jesus

[Tradesonred]

Another analogy.

You share your account with someone that uses hacks. Accounts banned, no ifs, no buts. You are at fault for sharing the account, pretty simple.

You share your account with someone that strips you. You are at fault for sharing the account, end of story, pretty simple.

Why should GMs spend more than a min on this, the time it takes to read and close down the petition? Convince me.

No, "youre a bitch" and "Jesus" isnt argumentation.

[Tradesonred]

Why should players who dont share their accounts be penalized with less GM time for events, for actual petitions, because you shared your account after getting told for years not to do it? Staff is wasting time on bad apples, something im sure youre sick and tired of.

By investigating stripping, the staff is sending mixed signals. Dont share your accounts, but if you do, theres a chance we will spend time investigating it and penalize the stripper, because its "fraud" and you are not the first responsible for sharing your account.

People will smart up about this and will install EQ on their grandmas computers, strip accounts from there, its such a huge waste of resources. Just stop dealing with account sharing petitions.

[Buhbuh]

jesus

[Colgate]

haven't read a single post by this moran in this thread

[Tradesonred]

Heres some more moranic paragraphs to not read

"Groupthink is a psychological phenomenon that occurs within a group of people, in which the desire for harmony or conformity in the group results in an irrational or dysfunctional decision-making outcome. Group members try to minimize conflict and reach a consensus decision without critical evaluation of alternative viewpoints, by actively suppressing dissenting viewpoints, and by isolating themselves from outside influences.

Loyalty to the group requires individuals to avoid raising controversial issues or alternative solutions, and there is loss of individual creativity, uniqueness and independent thinking. The dysfunctional group dynamics of the "ingroup" produces an "illusion of invulnerability" (an inflated certainty that the right decision has been made). Thus the "ingroup" significantly overrates its own abilities in decision-making, and significantly underrates the abilities of its opponents (the "outgroup"). Furthermore groupthink can produce dehumanizing actions against the "outgroup".

Antecedent factors such as group cohesiveness, faulty group structure, and situational context (e.g., community panic) play into the likelihood of whether or not groupthink will impact the decision-making process.

Groupthink is a construct of social psychology but has an extensive reach, and influences literature in the fields of communication studies, political science, management, and organizational theory,[1] as well as important aspects of deviant religious cult behaviour.[2][3]

Groupthink is sometimes stated to occur (more broadly) within natural groups within the community, for example to explain the lifelong different mindsets of conservatives versus liberals,[4] or the solitary nature of introverts.[5] However, this conformity of viewpoints within a group does not mainly involve deliberate group decision-making, and thus is perhaps better explained by the collective confirmation bias of the individual members of the group.
"

[Colgate]

tldr

[Sheriff]

http://cdn3.vox-cdn.com/imported_assets/2279948/ipWW8ZafqTAqc.gif

Spit my coffee out on this. Amazing!

[eskimospy]

Where on the spectrum are you ecoli

[Bazia]

ecoli kills any thread he wanders into

[Stasis01]

Is Ecoli his game name?

[Eslade]

Yes.

[Tradesonred]

Im sitting across anarchism and social democracy on the political spectrum, if you must know

[Tradesonred]

Id make a poll about GMs stopping to look at account sharing petitions but i have a feeling it would get trolled as spiting me is clearly more important than server health and thrive.

[Littlegyno 10.0]

Im sitting across anarchism and social democracy on the political spectrum, if you must know

he meant the autism spectrum lol.

[Thiefboy777]

Macho Man Randy Savage was the absolute pinnacle of human evolution, it's all downhill from here.

[Labanen]

spiting me is clearly more important than server health and thrive.true, However thats true for everyone who ever made an account on here. If its trollable, it will be trolled. Its like a Murphy's law spin off.

[Kaahbal]

Wow nineteen pages...

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-shmcgxsEhaY/T_WTFC9FbcI/AAAAAAAADfM/VzOtWZkDnKY/s640/rustled-my-jimmies-u-rustled.jpg

[Kaahbal]

pras

[Mac Drettj]

No reply followed by self reply

Ruthled

[Eslade]

Derubael

[Derubael]

We're going to set a solid set of rules for this between the senior guides/gm's, just waiting to hold the meeting.

Will likely be something similar to what I've been doing for the last 9 months - ban the character the items end up on, no reimbursements. I know Sirken feels like this is the best course of action, but I do not know how the guides feel about their opinion may be different. Whatever we decide I will probably put something specifically about stripping in the PnP so there's no way to say you didn't know.

[HippoNipple]

Will likely be something similar to what I've been doing for the last 9 months - ban the character the items end up on, no reimbursements.

Ban the guilty and don't restore pixels in any situation unless it is the other situation that is simultaneously happening right now, got it.

Thanks for clearing it up pal. See you in Thurgadin.

[heartbrand]

Enable shared bank, thanks

[Sirken]

enable stop sharing account info

[Littlegyno 10.0]

enable stop sharing account info

Unless you put it on a public pastebin which GM SirKen will restore no questions asked. Love the inconsistency. Maybe we could get a Sirken stream about restoring accounts instead of the usual flirting with 300lb gaming whores.

[Nothxu]

Were anyone's items restored in this massive debacle? I'm still waiting on the sidelines.

[Stasis01]

Weren't you (Gyno) spamming about the pixel war of 2014 and promoting this type of behavior? Sirken should just ban this guy for conspiracy to commit item strip/char deletion and get rid of the toxicity.

[Littlegyno 10.0]

Weren't you (Gyno) spamming about the pixel war of 2014 and promoting this type of behavior? Sirken should just ban this guy for conspiracy to commit item strip/char deletion and get rid of the toxicity.

So I make a jpg and now I'm a conspirator?? Nothxu, Trav, Pyrokinetic's characters deleted and not restored. Afflict, Affect, Deathe, and many other characters were deleted but restored in a reversal of policy.

Been preaching bout the inconsistency and failure of the multitude of staff members that have came and went for like 4 years now.

Quit raping your prisoners, you got HIV of the brain bad.

[Stasis01]

I was just fucken with you carry on.

[Littlegyno 10.0]

I was just fucken with you carry on.

luv u stacey

[Mac Drettj]

no surprises in anything

[mostbitter]

Free Tunak

[Tradesonred]

We're going to set a solid set of rules for this between the senior guides/gm's, just waiting to hold the meeting.

Will likely be something similar to what I've been doing for the last 9 months - ban the character the items end up on, no reimbursements. I know Sirken feels like this is the best course of action, but I do not know how the guides feel about their opinion may be different. Whatever we decide I will probably put something specifically about stripping in the PnP so there's no way to say you didn't know.

Still dont get why you guys would spend even 1 second on this instead of doing something positive for the server.

[Grimjaw]

We're going to set a solid set of rules

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[Derubael]

Ban the guilty and don't restore pixels in any situation unless it is the other situation that is simultaneously happening right now, got it.

Thanks for clearing it up pal. See you in Thurgadin.

I'm sorry, did someone get something restored? Who was that again? My log shows a total of 0 restores right now. Maybe the database fairy did it instead, since he's the only one that could feasibly track all the shit that's been traded around lately.

In regards to characters, AFAIK we have always restored characters so long as there is a database GM around to assist in their reinstatement. I was told by Rogean that it was something we always did, but sometimes people had to wait stupidly long amounts of time because we didn't have anyone around to do them. Maybe this is what you guys mean...?

For the last year we've been pretty consistent, and have remained that way the entire time I've been a GM (if I'm remembering correctly). But if you guys want to keep talking about the past as if it matters now that things are going well, I'm ok with that too.

[mrproudbeard]

I'm sorry, did someone get something restored? Who was that again? My log shows a total of 0 restores right now. Maybe the database fairy did it instead, since he's the only one that could feasibly track all the shit that's been traded around lately.

In regards to characters, AFAIK we have always restored characters so long as there is a database GM around to assist in their reinstatement. I was told by Rogean that it was something we always did, but sometimes people had to wait stupidly long amounts of time because we didn't have anyone around to do them. Maybe this is what you guys mean...?

For the last year we've been pretty consistent, and have remained that way the entire time I've been a GM (if I'm remembering correctly). But if you guys want to keep talking about the past as if it matters now that things are going well, I'm ok with that too.

Deru, what's the reason that staff prefers to keep all incidents & the response to them quiet? It seems like you fine folks could reduce a hell of a lot of forum trolling & stress on yourselves if infractions & punishments were more transparent. It's really ridiculous the amount of stuff trolls are able to make up about the CSR staff here, and with incidents like Amelinda it's not terribly hard to believe some of the stories either. I honestly believe it hurts server growth to have this kind of stuff so rampant in the forums.

[iiNGloriouS]

Macho Man Randy Savage was the absolute pinnacle of human evolution, it's all downhill from here.

[Smedy]

the infamous stolen fungus story, who has it now who stole it....


these are the questions....



































no one... not even staff gives 3 fucks about

pras

[Juhstin]

the infamous stolen fungus story, who has it now who stole it....


these are the questions....



































no one... not even staff gives 3 fucks about

pras

[Pikrib]

Man, toxic Holocaust leadership have 20 enemy accounts deleted then they complain when people get their accounts restored. Then they start treating the GMs like shit. You guys already screwed the GMs over the first time when you made them do all the extra work.

[Thrilla]

If all those az accounts get restored, then Trav, Nothxu, Pyro/Miley need to be as well. Seems like simple logic, if you're going to spend the 20 minutes for 1 person (or several hours?) then do it for all so the message is consistent, otherwise it's worth null.

[Smedy]

terp was never de-de-deleted though

also getting involved with the devil (the coach) seems like a terrible idea when you know sirken made a public statement that ban hammers would go out to anyone being involved with the coach.

they are lucky they got off this easy, one does not simply walk hand in hand with the coach and logon to red99 to enjoy vlassic everquest dog

[Pikrib]

I think it depends if their shit got stolen and sold off it won't be restored. If it got deleted it will be. This has been discussed before.

[Eslade]

Derubael.

[Tradesonred]

Why would staff spend even one second helping people who knowingly break the rules?

This is setting yourselves up for people telling you (rightly) why give this one guy restoration and then this other guy doesnt get it?

Just stop looking at restoration petitions completely and devote time to making stuff that is enjoyable to the new folks that might or might not be so toxic

[Eslade]

Tradesonred

[HippoNipple]

Why would staff spend even one second helping people who knowingly break the rules?

This is setting yourselves up for people telling you (rightly) why give this one guy restoration and then this other guy doesnt get it?

Just stop looking at restoration petitions completely and devote time to making stuff that is enjoyable to the new folks that might or might not be so toxic

Because everyone breaks the rules and if they don't no one will be left on the server. Don't bring your butt hurt bullshit to these threads where you just want to see everyone suffer you scum bag. The GMs should restore people, but they should put in effort to be consistent. Azrael just lost more hours invested than it took the devs to develop this damn server. Everyone needs to get restored and they should wait until they have it all straightened out to restore everyone at the same time so both sides are treated fairly.

[Nirgon]

devil (the coach)

He's not a bad guy.

He just snorts pixels.

[Stasis01]

And Adderalls to be the 6th level 50 on a 100 person emulator.

[Tradesonred]

Because everyone breaks the rules and if they don't no one will be left on the server. Don't bring your butt hurt bullshit to these threads where you just want to see everyone suffer you scum bag. The GMs should restore people, but they should put in effort to be consistent. Azrael just lost more hours invested than it took the devs to develop this damn server. Everyone needs to get restored and they should wait until they have it all straightened out to restore everyone at the same time so both sides are treated fairly.

lol everyone breaks the rules, good one. Ive never shared my accounts, i guess that justs proves how much of a "faggot" i am right.

If they keep catering to people like you, they kinda deserve the shitty community they foster afterwards.

[Eslade]

Ecoli

[Juhstin]

Ecoli

Ebola

[Pikrib]

I just added Ecoli to ignore, damn I should have done that 6 months ago. Feels so good.

[Smedy]

He's not a bad guy.

He just snorts pixels.

the coach works in mysterious ways, i keep in at a safe distance, you don't want him to close nor to far away , pras

[Nirgon]

There's no mystery. In fact I knew once Terp/Miley got nailed and Azrael started falling apart that someone would contact him. Should be a thread or two with me predicting it and linking images of his IRL avatar Bobby Knight.

As much work as it is... you can't let evil win.

Azrael lost more. Restore everything.

Seriously need Rogean or someone at eq emu to step in and help restore eq emu info to rightful owners if they've lost all of it.

[Kaahbal]

So what happened, terps stuff got jacked by the rules, some dudes asked coach (who is permabanned) to delete stuff for people, and the same dudes that ordered that hit is now using it as an argument for getting terps stuff restored, even tho its obviously just stolen and not deleted?

[Pikrib]

So what happened, terps stuff got jacked by the rules, some dudes asked coach (who is permabanned) to delete stuff for people, and the same dudes that ordered that hit is now using it as an argument for getting terps stuff restored, even tho its obviously just stolen and not deleted?

http://i.imgur.com/snAjz83.gif

[heartbrand]

Man, toxic Holocaust leadership have 20 enemy accounts deleted then they complain when people get their accounts restored. Then they start treating the GMs like shit. You guys already screwed the GMs over the first time when you made them do all the extra work.

Going to donate to p99 as we speak. Proud holocaust member.

[Pikrib]

Going to donate to p99 as we speak. Proud holocaust member.

It might be a good idea to get back on the good side of the GMs.

You should help pay for the extra person they are gonna have to hire to do all of the character restores.

[Bazia]

shouldnt have shared info u dig

thought that was the standard

[Eslade]

Derubael

[Colgate]

GMs love us, we've ushered red99 into a whole new era of thrive and prosperity

deal w/ it

[kotton05]

Colgate gave me spell money when I was broke. Dude has heart of gold

[Fame]

Derupal is a saint and we're lucky to have a dedicated dude like this on our side!

[Pikrib]

deal w/ it

That was a big mess you made. R U tellin the GMs to deal w/it? Thats not nice bud. I'm sure the poor GMs will be dealing with it for awhile.

:D

[Burgerking]

Colgate gave me spell money when I was broke. Dude has heart of gold

Colgate just a good guy and solid broseph, definitely somebody you want covering your ass when the shit goes down.

http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs22/f/2007/317/6/a/Band_of_Brothers_by_SjoerdB.jpg

[Pudge]

Someone get stripped?

What did the sweds have to do with it?

Some account Sharon gone wrong?
I will go across the hall and get Penny and we can road trip to Stockholm to retrieve pixels.

the infamous stolen fungus story, who has it now who stole it....


these are the questions....



































no one... not even staff gives 3 fucks about

pras

LOL

[Eslade]

Derubael

[Colgate]

That was a big mess you made. R U tellin the GMs to deal w/it? Thats not nice bud. I'm sure the poor GMs will be dealing with it for awhile.

:D

i have no knowledge of anyone in holocaust that would have access to a lot of those accounts

or anyone outside of azrael for that matter

word on da street tho is that agatha supplied some of those accounts

[Casey VII]

Jamaica


Bahama


come on pretty mama

[Fame]

Jamaica


Bahama


come on pretty mama

Yooouuuuuvee got to take it slooowwwooowwwooowwwww

[Smedy]

hi pudge, miss u bro

[Eslade]

Derubael

[snufzaimoverlord]

Simply because we know where the Kraken sleeps, does not mean we control him.

Also GMs could have saved themselves miles of headaches if they just banned Smedy's forum account. Good drama for us bored types tho.

[Pudge]

hi pudge, miss u bro

Let me join your Circle.

Also, get anklestraps to play