Attn GMs: Limiting Guild Numbers

[Andis]

I've been on this server for close to 3+ years and no I am not ashamed.

I've seen everything happen on this server.

The one thing I've seen too much of is the act of "zerging" (mass recruitment)

We all saw what Nihilum did to this server. Now that they are gone, Holocaust followed the same course of action as they did, as they are now the biggest guild on this server, continuing to zerg mob bosses and limiting the amount of pvp over dragons - When will this madness end?

We play on red over blue because we like pvp. So why not help the cause of pvp?

My proposition: limiting guild numbers so that they have a maximum amount of players allowed so it gives other players a chance to form up new guilds and contest and pvp and all the other good stuff. The number cap can be voted on but I think 35 is a pretty solid guild number.

This is not a troll thread. It's an idea that I think might be able to work to make this red server a place where we can safely say we are here for more pvp over pve.

Thoughts/conerns? Go

[Eslade]

I've been saying this for a while.

[Juhstin]

Ok so the cap is 35, what's not to say there isn't then a...

< Holocaust >
< Auschwitz >

Which both consist of 35 and just raid together thus still zerging?

[Mac Drettj]

should holocaust just split up to multiple guilds and pretend we arent one big guild?

similar to Az/El/10x other guild tags for "alts" and "friends" that dont really count

[Eslade]

That's fine. At the very least they won't have the same guild chat or leaders. Yaw teamspeak, not everybody uses it all of the time.

[Genedin]

should holocaust just split up to multiple guilds and pretend we arent one big guild?

similar to Az/El/10x other guild tags for "alts" and "friends" that dont really count


While erroneous because EL has stated several times they are their own entity and wish to remain one....and really don't get the help from Azrael they deserve or that would indicate they are the same guild at all..... the holocaust portion is exactly what would happen.

[Andis]

Ok so the cap is 35, what's not to say there isn't then a...

< Holocaust >
< Auschwitz >

Which both consist of 35 and just raid together thus still zerging?

it can happen but communication is tougher, forcing a new guild tag always helps.

When this happens, deciding loot can be tricky

who gets what, who did what, can get sticky

easier to have one guild of 35, and multiple of them, so there is more mass pvp over dragons!

[Mac Drettj]

i mean we could make HolocaustB its own entity to but still protect them and raid with them

u kno what i mean?

[Juhstin]

should holocaust just split up to multiple guilds and pretend we arent one big guild?

similar to Az/El/10x other guild tags for "alts" and "friends" that dont really count

What Mac Daddy said plus:

Bring back teams, no guilds allowed, except Erudites go on their own team. We don't want them on my team.

[Andis]

I forgot to make a poll

someone make the poll

edalse make the poll and link this thread.

[lethdar]

Holocaust has presided over the largest population growth this server has ever seen, providing protection from griefers, trolls, and comradery on our collective elf quest. Sorry that you hate the success Holo has brought about Andis but praaas holo be crootin :):):):):):):):):):)

[Sektor]

i mean we could make HolocaustB its own entity to but still protect them and raid with them

u kno what i mean?

You damn firegiant.

[Gongshow]

I think a 500 person cap would be good.

[Mac Drettj]

You damn firegiant.

nawmsayindo?

[Colgate]

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=170949

official poll

[Crazycloud]

should holocaust just split up to multiple guilds and pretend we arent one big guild?

similar to Az/El/10x other guild tags for "alts" and "friends" that dont really count

[Andis]

real poll here

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=170950

[HippoNipple]

Why are people so worried about how others enjoy the game? Trying to force people to not be able to play their favorite online game with their closest friends is disgusting.

If you are so obsessed with PvE you know when the timers are, why don't you just recruit and contest?

[Colgate]

azrael never had any problem raiding with 40+ people when they were able to

the problem was that no one wanted to join them

sour grapes dawgs

[Bazia]

recruit and contest you all know the timers

it obviously works

[Mac Drettj]

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view2/4478932/still-tippin-o.gif

[Derubael]

no
edit: you guys can agree to whatever you want, but we aren't going to put limits on the number of people guilds can recruit.

[Colgate]

and just like that, the last tiny hair fell out

[Mac Drettj]

lool

[thieros]

Come on over pals, blue is doing great!

Don't like 1 massive zerg guild? Come to blue where there are many, many guilds of varying size.

Tired of being roflstomped by massive zerg guild in guild to guild pvp? roll blue where they cant kill you and take your dragons because welfare lines.

[Bazia]

see 1 dragon a month sounds tite

[Nirgon]

You mean trying to grief everyone off the server with a 72 hour corpse camp didn't work? And everyone rallied against you?

Andis I think I need some advice here, what happened?

[Zalaerian]

Come on over pals, blue is doing great!

Don't like 1 massive zerg guild? Come to blue where there are many, many guilds of varying size.

Tired of being roflstomped by massive zerg guild in guild to guild pvp? roll blue where they cant kill you and take your dragons because welfare lines.

Do 95% of the pop even no wit a dragon looks like?

[Farzo]

is this going to be the new variance thing?

[Burgerking]

no
edit: you guys can agree to whatever you want, but we aren't going to put limits on the number of people guilds can recruit.

and just like that, the last tiny hair fell out

[Malevz]

continuing to zerg mob bosses and limiting the amount of pvp over dragons

[Handpartytowel]

dont remember andis leaving azrael when they were raiding for months with 65+

[Colgate]

dont remember andis leaving azrael when they were raiding for months with 65+

i do actually, he logged off for 2 months when i told him he wasn't getting the amulet of necropotence that dropped

[Handpartytowel]

yikes colgate withholding aon, lite withholding fbh? nobody loves poor court jester andis.

[Malevz]

Server has more pvp than ever. Azrael not getting pixels is the issue.

The old nihilum knows the cycle:

-Azrael nearly non existant
-Azrael putting effort in, recruits/guild name change
-Azrael starts to contest
-Azrael pixelquests hard for 1 week to 2 months, says server is great, calls it PvP
-Azrael starts lawyerquesting, blaming everyone else <------- YOU ARE HERE
-Azrael goes to complete shit

Repeat cycle.

I know it's hard for you guys at this part, but you'll make it through. Clutch the pixels you have and have a good cry. That will help.

[Doors]

Server population has gone up significantly since Holocaust started dominating the box.

Holocaust also does not kill every raid boss, and most of them remain up after they spawn.

This is another troll thread by Andis and belongs in RNF.

[Uuruk]

lol at thinking GMs are going to prevent players from playing with their friends because you cant compete.

[Pseudechis]

And if velious goes live? What then? Avatar if war with 24?

[Pitborn]

azrael never had any problem raiding with 40+ people when they were able to

[cr0ss]

Better to make a script for all raid mobs to do a check for players in proximity (radius). If over X amount, it randomly gates people out every Y seconds much like how Naggy/Vox do for people over 52. Would affect both the raiding guild and people trying to stop and seems to be the most fair.

Also, would bring a whole new element to deal with in pvp raids!

[Korben]

I've been on this server for close to 3+ years and no I am not ashamed.

I've seen everything happen on this server.

The one thing I've seen too much of is the act of "zerging" (mass recruitment)

We all saw what Nihilum did to this server. Now that they are gone, Holocaust followed the same course of action as they did, as they are now the biggest guild on this server, continuing to zerg mob bosses and limiting the amount of pvp over dragons - When will this madness end?

We play on red over blue because we like pvp. So why not help the cause of pvp?

My proposition: limiting guild numbers so that they have a maximum amount of players allowed so it gives other players a chance to form up new guilds and contest and pvp and all the other good stuff. The number cap can be voted on but I think 35 is a pretty solid guild number.

This is not a troll thread. It's an idea that I think might be able to work to make this red server a place where we can safely say we are here for more pvp over pve.

Thoughts/conerns? Go

I fucking have to LOL so hard at this, because here in the heart of the bastion known as Red, AKA "The solution to all of Blue's problems", I now come and bear witness to salty tears of pixel envy being shed.

What happened to your infallible "Can just kill them on red" argument?

Oh how the 'mighty' have fallen.

P.S. Blue's crootin

[Tacitus]

Server has more pvp than ever. Azrael not getting pixels is the issue.

The old nihilum knows the cycle:

-Azrael nearly non existant
-Azrael putting effort in, recruits/guild name change
-Azrael starts to contest
-Azrael pixelquests hard for 1 week to 2 months, says server is great, calls it PvP
-Azrael starts lawyerquesting, blaming everyone else <------- YOU ARE HERE
-Azrael goes to complete shit

Repeat cycle.

I know it's hard for you guys at this part, but you'll make it through. Clutch the pixels you have and have a good cry. That will help.

Ragnaros Xash Holocaust Dreadlands 0.24 November 08 2014 8:15:24 PM

[Bazia]

idk we had 30 for trak 2day unstoppable zerg i know on a 200+ pop server

[bigstuff]

should holocaust just split up to multiple guilds and pretend we arent one big guild?

similar to Az/El/10x other guild tags for "alts" and "friends" that dont really count

+1

[mugien]

unreal thread. the level of incompetence is alarming.

[Tradesonred]

What the guy with the Adolf Hitler avatar in Holocaust said

And heartbrand huh

http://i.imgur.com/6A9eglS.gif

[pingpong]

horrible thread

[Clark]

Come on over pals, blue is doing great!

Don't like 1 massive zerg guild? Come to blue where there are many, many guilds of varying size.

Tired of being roflstomped by massive zerg guild in guild to guild pvp? roll blue where they cant kill you and take your dragons because welfare lines.

http://i.imgur.com/xQOo81J.png

[Smedy]

this is like communism, looks good on paper but in reality it wont work

how the fuck would hardcapping a guild change anything? nothing will keep people from having 3 different guilds fighting together vs one

also considering the fact that gm's are overwhelmed by the amount of cryface as it is imagine trying to police who is friends with who and who is allowed to help who, it's simply not possible.

there's only one way to counter the absolute zerg strategy in everquest and that's to have a "no rules" box where training is legal, i never played such boxes but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that if a group of 20 people could stop a group of 80 people, the group of 80 people would rather quickly realize that they are better of cutting the fat cause they ain't doing anything anymore for them.

i'm not sure a box such as that would thrive though, it might just be too easy for a group of fags to fuck everyone else up on the daily

[Clark]

They don't understand Smedy!

http://i.imgur.com/8bKbSID.png

[Burgerking]

this is like communism, looks good on paper but in reality it wont work

how the fuck would hardcapping a guild change anything? nothing will keep people from having 3 different guilds fighting together vs one

also considering the fact that gm's are overwhelmed by the amount of cryface as it is imagine trying to police who is friends with who and who is allowed to help who, it's simply not possible.

there's only one way to counter the absolute zerg strategy in everquest and that's to have a "no rules" box where training is legal, i never played such boxes but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that if a group of 20 people could stop a group of 80 people, the group of 80 people would rather quickly realize that they are better of cutting the fat cause they ain't doing anything anymore for them.

i'm not sure a box such as that would thrive though, it might just be too easy for a group of fags to fuck everyone else up on the daily

Training is not the solution to Azrael's problems, me and many other Holocaust member's come from Sullon Zek where training was legal. We don't train because it's against the rules, not because we don't know how to train others, or manage trains in pvp.

Trust me you don't want the GM's to take the gloves off, be a bigger mistake then the day you guys said Recruit and Contest.

[lethdar]

Holocaust raining pixels on new players like never seen before, players in rags wielding epics and raid loots that would otherwise just rot on lite's 7th alt. Server pop up to all time highs.

Praaaas

[Uuruk]

Pras

[Mac Drettj]

Holocaust raining pixels on new players like never seen before, players in rags wielding epics and raid loots that would otherwise just rot on lite's 7th alt. Server pop up to all time highs.

Praaaas

[qwerty]

this would ruin game for any casual players because they wouldn't be one of the 35. wont ever happen - moving to resolved.

[Korben]

this would ruin game for any casual players because they wouldn't be one of the 35. wont ever happen - moving to resolved.

Motion carries

[Eslade]

http://rs35.pbsrc.com/albums/d165/Aryn2382/overruled.jpg~320x480

[Not_Kazowi]

I've been on this server for close to 3+ years and no i still do not have an AoN

[Zalaerian]

Miss u rexx when you coming back?

[Not_Kazowi]

I log on every Sunday for like 2 minutes but it's always after raids start

Will log in this weekend 4 sure. Miss u too pal

[Nirgon]

Get in TS!

PM me for the timers to contest.

[Malevz]

Ragnaros Xash Holocaust Dreadlands 0.24 November 08 2014 8:15:24 PM

That 8 seconds tstaff with 4-5 melee on me, grats though!

[Stalos_]

Andis speaks for himself. Not Azrael. It is about every three days someone tells him in TS to never post again on the forums. He has been asked and told again and again.

I rebuke you andis.

You're dead to the EuroCore.

[Tacitus]

That 8 seconds tstaff with 4-5 melee on me, grats though!

im pretty sure it was 1v1 gm sanctioned

[Malevz]

im pretty sure it was 1v1 gm sanctioned

Was it an hour duel for deletion? If so I am screwed.

[Tacitus]

Was it an hour duel for deletion? If so I am screwed.

Ill let it slide just this once

[Buhbuh]

This thread is so fucking awful.

The fact that you even think this could be a possibility is astounding.

[Genedin]

Sadly. We all agree.

[Eslade]

Went about as well as I expected.

[Malevz]

You know the timers. Crouton test.

[Buhbuh]

Went about as well as I expected.

Well... Andis.

Shrug

[Rangerdown]

GMs gonna enforce everyone having the same classes, same gear, same lag, same neck beard to casual ratio, etc... while they're at it?

Holo family guild. Join the brotherhood.

[Clark]

same neck beard to casual ratio

lmao