Sup Elderan?

[Stasis01]

https://www.digitalstormonline.com/configurator.asp?id=1054623

Went all out on this puppy no financing required.

For reals tho, can this handle EQ?

[Chronoburn]

Yes. You could probably play eq on one of these nowadays ....
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4d/TI-83.png

[Eslade]

You could run eq on your phone.

Shhhh.

[Doors]

Love digital storm.

[Smedy]

lots of words like "EXTREME" and bright lights, looking at the actual hardware its pretty much shit, why not get one with a ssd? your zonetimes would improve drastically, unless you're running a ramdriive

wouldn't buy this, i'd pay a little more to get something that will hold out for awhile

[Bazia]

if u spend over 60 dollars chances are it can handle EQ

[Kergan]

I don't get how those places stay in business. I enjoy building my own machine too much to buy one prebuilt, I figured most people here were the same I guess (nerds). Laptops another story of course.

[Mac Drettj]

u assumed anyone that played everquest knew how to build a computer by default?

[Bazia]

i bought mine prebuilt, had zero interest in going through the inconvenience

[Kergan]

u assumed anyone that played everquest knew how to build a computer by default?

Yes, lol.

[Littlegyno 10.0]

picked up a few guard shifts pal, niiiiiiiiooooooccceeeeee.

[Gnomegrown]

AMD No thx

[Stasis01]

lots of words like "EXTREME" and bright lights, looking at the actual hardware its pretty much shit, why not get one with a ssd? your zonetimes would improve drastically, unless you're running a ramdriive

wouldn't buy this, i'd pay a little more to get something that will hold out for awhile

AMD FX-8320 8 Core Processor
Gigabyte 970A-D3P CFX Motherboard
Radeon R9 280 Video Card
8GB DDR3 1866MHz Memory
120GB HyperX Fury SATA3 SSD
1TB WD 7200RPM 64MB cache HDD
Enermax 630W 80+ Gold Modular PSU
Windows 8.1 64-bit
Enermax Coenus Case, red LED lighting

? Better?

Why is AMD so bad I keep reading it's better quality for cheaper etc except for real high end shit.

[Terpuntine]

You actual ordered something from them? The hardware is lackluster

[Stasis01]

Not yet I'm feeling it out through google searches and this thread.

This PC above is fairly cheap and R9 280 VC... and a SSD.

[Littlegyno 10.0]

Not yet I'm feeling it out through google searches and this thread.

This PC above is fairly cheap and R9 280 VC... and a SSD.

find a nerd to build it for you and buy the parts off neweg.

if you were close to me, i'd build it for you. gluck cumchum

[Stasis01]

Ty, keep them asses clean.

[Littlegyno 10.0]

Ty, keep them asses clean.

dont rlly do that as a nurse practitioner. lemma kno if u want me 2 build it.

[Stasis01]

Oh you wanted to be a doctor?

[Littlegyno 10.0]

Oh you wanted to be a doctor?

yaw but didnt have the time after slaying browns in middle east u kno? so make 85% with 20% of the schooling.

[nilbog]

Currently using:

amd 8350 black
nvidia gtx 770 4gb
sabertooth 990fx 2.0
16g gskill trident
samsung 840 pro ssd
coolermaster v1200 1200w platinum
noctua nh-d15
coolermaster haf x full tower

http://i.imgur.com/LT6Hrmp.png

Need to finish cable management. :[

[Littlegyno 10.0]

Currently using:

amd 8350 black
nvidia gtx 770 4gb
sabertooth 990fx 2.0
16g gskill trident
samsung 840 pro ssd
coolermaster v1200 1200w platinum
noctua nh-d15
coolermaster haf x full tower

http://i.imgur.com/LT6Hrmp.png

Need to finish cable management. :[

hey nilberg. how u doing bro

[quido]

looks like a great computer for playing EQ

[Stasis01]

Currently using:

amd 8350 black
nvidia gtx 770 4gb
sabertooth 990fx 2.0
16g gskill trident
samsung 840 pro ssd
coolermaster v1200 1200w platinum
noctua nh-d15
coolermaster haf x full tower

http://i.imgur.com/LT6Hrmp.png

Need to finish cable management. :[

AMD FX-8320 8 Core Processor
Gigabyte 970A-D3P CFX Motherboard
Radeon R9 280 Video Card
8GB DDR3 1866MHz Memory
120GB HyperX Fury SATA3 SSD
1TB WD 7200RPM 64MB cache HDD
Enermax 630W 80+ Gold Modular PSU
Windows 8.1 64-bit
Enermax Coenus Case, red LED lighting



Doesn't seem that far off in my eyes, which don't know fuck all - apparently Nvidia 770 is comparable to R9280... The processor seems similar. I wonder how much 8GB Ram will fuck me though.

Don't know shit about cooling systems either hmmm

[Littlegyno 10.0]

AMD FX-8320 8 Core Processor
Gigabyte 970A-D3P CFX Motherboard
Radeon R9 280 Video Card
8GB DDR3 1866MHz Memory
120GB HyperX Fury SATA3 SSD
1TB WD 7200RPM 64MB cache HDD
Enermax 630W 80+ Gold Modular PSU
Windows 8.1 64-bit
Enermax Coenus Case, red LED lighting



Doesn't seem that far off in my eyes, which don't know fuck all - apparently Nvidia 770 is comparable to R9280... The processor seems similar. I wonder how much 8GB Ram will fuck me though.

Don't know shit about cooling systems either hmmm

8gb will be overkill for eq but i mean 16gb is sorta the upcoming requirement for many games in the next 2-3 years. and its cheap.

[Stasis01]

Yeah fuck hmmm.

[Kergan]

Processor hasn't been a gaming bottleneck in years. I still run an i5 overclocked from 4 years ago on modern games.

Basically all you care about is SSD, enough RAM (8 min, 16 preferred..shits pretty cheap) and a good video card ($250+) to play anything.

[AmukTZ]

All lists you have posted have been fine for todays gaming and if the cost fits your budget then pull the trigger and do it sir. I would say though ditch the windows 8 garbage =P

[Gnomegrown]

depends on how many eq accounts your playing

[Pitborn]

AMD FX-8320 8 Core Processor
Gigabyte 970A-D3P CFX Motherboard
Radeon R9 280 Video Card
8GB DDR3 1866MHz Memory
120GB HyperX Fury SATA3 SSD
1TB WD 7200RPM 64MB cache HDD
Enermax 630W 80+ Gold Modular PSU
Windows 8.1 64-bit
Enermax Coenus Case, red LED lighting

? Better?

Why is AMD so bad I keep reading it's better quality for cheaper etc except for real high end shit.

Im basically using the same rig and slay everything I play currently.

ESO and PSide2 get a little crazy and drop fps when im in battles of 100s of people but that's about it.

Idiots like tomato are uneducated retards that spout off what they hear from others so please ignore if you haven't already.

Besides no G-Sync , I would not hesitate to buy an AMD system or GPU for gaming or anything else. Yes intel has better performance, but in terms of bang for buck AMD is the undisputed champ.

[Stasis01]

All lists you have posted have been fine for todays gaming and if the cost fits your budget then pull the trigger and do it sir. I would say though ditch the windows 8 garbage =P

Funny u say that man I ordered it but the one thing I changed was windows 7, windows 8 looks too weird for me.

I take it you're not that Amuck forum account I see around selling high end shit? Thought you went stealth mode for a bit man.

[Stasis01]

Im basically using the same rig and slay everything I play currently.

ESO and PSide2 get a little crazy and drop fps when im in battles of 100s of people but that's about it.

Idiots like tomato are uneducated retards that spout off what they hear from others so please ignore if you haven't already.

Besides no G-Sync , I would not hesitate to buy an AMD system or GPU for gaming or anything else. Yes intel has better performance, but in terms of bang for buck AMD is the undisputed champ.

Word man yeah I want to try me some planetside 2 or battlefield or some shit, last comp could do dota EQ and some other minor shit heh.

[Clark]

u assumed anyone that played everquest knew how to build a computer by default?

I sure as hell couldn't build a computer.

[iiNGloriouS]

Digi storm good site. I love the fact that they stress test the shit for you.

[quido]

My CPU is a neural-net processor - a learning computer.

[derpcake]

Processor hasn't been a gaming bottleneck in years. I still run an i5 overclocked from 4 years ago on modern games.

Basically all you care about is SSD, enough RAM (8 min, 16 preferred..shits pretty cheap) and a good video card ($250+) to play anything.

I like SSD's for daily useage, but for EQ ramdisk really is a cheaper solution which is faster.

[Gnomegrown]

both ssd's and ram disks are a poor choice, and don't attempt to build a pc unless you know what you are doing , selecting the wrong piece will result in it not working properly and being a pile of crap.

buy something premade since you are dum

[derpcake]

I hope one day you get over trying to plug in the GFX card in a ram slot.

[AmukTZ]

Funny u say that man I ordered it but the one thing I changed was windows 7, windows 8 looks too weird for me.

I take it you're not that Amuck forum account I see around selling high end shit? Thought you went stealth mode for a bit man.

Nah man not me. All i got is the gears you provided me.

[SamwiseRed]

my new rig and setup

https://www.commodoreserver.com/BlogImages/%7B0F01C5F2-4BBC-4594-A9BD-EE3A713DFA7E%7D.jpg

[Jib]

this thread is disgusting. you really spent that much money on that garbage pc? why did nobody stop him?

you could have spent 400$ for a much better pc if you built it from scratch.

I just built a

8core 4ghz
gtx 770
12gig ram
SSD HD
750 watt power supply
new motherboard AM3+ socket for 8core processor's and usb 3.0 speeds

all for 500$

every component brand new using a combination of newegg / ebay / tiger direct

[Smedy]

but your shit didnt say "EXTREME" anywhere now did it?

jokes on you pal

[SamwiseRed]

id rather spend 3 grand on an alienware laptop that looks cool then 500 bucks for the same thing in a lame case. nawmean?

first thing i do is install a matrix screensaver.

[Lasher]

Someone in Houston build me something for 500 bucks. thanks

[Kergan]

Businesses literally throw into the garbage PCs that can run EQ just fine. Toss in a $40 vid card and a $60 small SSD and you'll notice exactly 0 difference between a $8000 supercomputer and your $100 dumpster dive.

[iiNGloriouS]

this thread is disgusting. you really spent that much money on that garbage pc? why did nobody stop him?

you could have spent 400$ for a much better pc if you built it from scratch.

I just built a

8core 4ghz
gtx 770
12gig ram
SSD HD
750 watt power supply
new motherboard AM3+ socket for 8core processor's and usb 3.0 speeds

all for 500$

every component brand new using a combination of newegg / ebay / tiger direct

Unless you waited for all those parts to be on a flash sale; that shits not possible. Calm down with the lies socio

[Genedin]

but your shit didnt say "EXTREME" anywhere now did it?

jokes on you pal


ROFL

[Pudge]

Currently using:

amd 8350 black
nvidia gtx 770 4gb
sabertooth 990fx 2.0
16g gskill trident
samsung 840 pro ssd
coolermaster v1200 1200w platinum
noctua nh-d15
coolermaster haf x full tower

http://i.imgur.com/LT6Hrmp.png

Need to finish cable management. :[

Got the same case. Same cpu cooler as well I think. Thermalsomething? Anyway.. Your cables look tight don't know what you sayin. Not at the comp so I can't spout off all my shit.. Not that nerd I guess :/ did build it myself about 2 years ago. Try http://www.hardware-revolution.com it's a pretty good site.

Also, i7. Don't you guys think a 100 dollar investment in a rig you gonna use for like a decade is worth it? You bros prob spend more than that in a week at the local McDonald's.

[Elderan]

Noting wrong with Digital Storm. They are reasonably priced and if you don't want to deal with the building yourself they are a great option. While I build my own PCs this is the place I ordered several peoples PCs from.

BTW I did finish building my new pc few weeks ago as well.

[Quiet]

How's archeage? :D

[Slathar]

Noting wrong with Digital Storm. They are reasonably priced and if you don't want to deal with the building yourself they are a great option. While I build my own PCs this is the place I ordered several peoples PCs from.

BTW I did finish building my new pc few weeks ago as well.

[Jib]

Unless you waited for all those parts to be on a flash sale; that shits not possible. Calm down with the lies socio

First of all who the fuck are you?

GTx 770 220$ free shipping
ram 3 4g sticks 45$ free shipping
SSD 120gig 75$ free shipping
8core 4gz processor 120$ free shipping
750 watt powersupply 60$ 20$ insta rebate = 40$ free shipping

wow i did the math turned into 500$ on the dot. i honestly guesstimated at first but it turned out to be exact

LATER NERD

[Jib]

im actually in the process of selling all my old shit

sold my old 3.4 ghz quadcore for 80$

sold my old R7850 for 65$

sold my old MOBO for 29.99$

all on ebay rest is still for sale so really I spent like less than 300$ for the upgrade

[Jib]

For people asking about AMD VS intel...

Intel is like 1-2% faster for almost 20-25% more the price

its like the same argument of windows vs a mac

amd is like windows

intel is like mac

amd is for normal people

intel is for faggots

[Jib]

Noting wrong with Digital Storm. They are reasonably priced and if you don't want to deal with the building yourself they are a great option. While I build my own PCs this is the place I ordered several peoples PCs from.

BTW I did finish building my new pc few weeks ago as well.

I dont think its an issue with if you want to build it or not but more if you are capable. it takes about 10 minutes to actually assemble the pc and 5 more minutes to install the drivers.

If you chose to reinstall your OS while you do it then maybe an extra 10 minutes of just waiting for it to install...

unless you are so rich that 300-400$ price break isnt worth 15 minutes of your time

[Juhstin]

amd is for normal people

intel is for faggots

I use AMD and am a fire giant, so your logic is flawed.

[Elderan]

I dont think its an issue with if you want to build it or not but more if you are capable. it takes about 10 minutes to actually assemble the pc and 5 more minutes to install the drivers.

If you chose to reinstall your OS while you do it then maybe an extra 10 minutes of just waiting for it to install...

unless you are so rich that 300-400$ price break isnt worth 15 minutes of your time

I think you are greatly underestimating the time required to assemble a pc. I have built over 100 PCs from scratch in my lifetime and rebuilt countless more. There is almost no way you can go from boxes to built to working PC with an OS install in under 25 minutes. Especially if you are dealing with new or different hardware each time which a normal builder would be in most cases.

Also your prices left out the OS cost. I know most people pirate their OS but if you actually buy it like you should then it is 99-199 in price which adds considerable cost. I am not an AMD fan, however this is due to the .Net development I have done in the past and what my company does now. AMD does not work well with developing .Net software.

[Genedin]

I can put one together in 25 mins if I rush. But without fail I will have to go back and figure out what I did incorrectly to get the stupid thing to boot.

[SamwiseRed]

since I was a little bastard and built my first PC, i went with amd and ati. recently i converted to intel/nvidia. feels good.

[Secrets]

Surface Pro 3, all you need for EQ1.

[Nirgon]

Secrets whats yer favorite flavor cheetah

My fingers stay dusty boy

[Mac Drettj]

Surface Pro 3, all you need for EQ1.

...

[Jib]

I think you are greatly underestimating the time required to assemble a pc. I have built over 100 PCs from scratch in my lifetime and rebuilt countless more. There is almost no way you can go from boxes to built to working PC with an OS install in under 25 minutes. Especially if you are dealing with new or different hardware each time which a normal builder would be in most cases.

Also your prices left out the OS cost. I know most people pirate their OS but if you actually buy it like you should then it is 99-199 in price which adds considerable cost. I am not an AMD fan, however this is due to the .Net development I have done in the past and what my company does now. AMD does not work well with developing .Net software.

i just upgraded a week ago, i just rebuilt it how can i underesstimate something i just did.

I spent an hour researching which parts to buy but you have to do that with a prebuilt pc as well, unless you are just that ignorant to let a random joe build a random pc at a random price you dont understand.

I was a bit harsh against intel I understand some things are designed with the intention of using intel components so it runs better with that. I just grew up poor and bought what I could afford so I always went with AMD which really is little to no difference from intel for the majority of programs out there.

Never bought an OS in my life, Robin Hood would never pay the greedy king

[Mac Drettj]

I would never pirate an OS bcus I'm a professional and expect security and support at the highest level

[Kergan]

AMD processors are significantly worse than Intel, but it's like the difference between the 0-60 speed on a ferrari vs a porsche...both are overkill and you'll never use it for gaming so save a buck.

Honestly if you wanted to build the cheapest machine that will crush EQ with ease, just buy one of the AMD APUs and leave out the video card entirely. Then you're getting the video card/proc at around $150 together, do 8 gigs of RAM at like $40, buy a 60 gig SSD for like $50, PSU for $30-40, mobo for under $100 and you're sitting around $400 if you buy a case. $500 if you buy the OS.

Also if you have a Microcenter in your area you will get the CPU/mobo cheaper than anywhere online even after tax. Plus they will price match newegg on other things, you can sometimes get a demo model case and stuff.

[Chronoburn]

First of all who the fuck are you?

GTx 770 220$ free shipping
ram 3 4g sticks 45$ free shipping
SSD 120gig 75$ free shipping
8core 4gz processor 120$ free shipping
750 watt powersupply 60$ 20$ insta rebate = 40$ free shipping

wow i did the math turned into 500$ on the dot. i honestly guesstimated at first but it turned out to be exact

LATER NERD

Forgot the mobo.

[Kergan]

Forgot the mobo, case, operating system, etc...

A lotta times you can reuse stuff (especially the case) but that isn't really the discussion so you have to account for it even though its not a big cost. And telling people to pirate an OS to build a cheap machine is pretty dumb.

[Jib]

Forgot the mobo.

fuck you're right

49.99 free shipping

550 total

[Elderan]

fuck you're right

49.99 free shipping

550 total

So 550+99 for an OS = 649. The PC he listed was $699.

Not such a bad deal after all then is it?

[Eslade]

So 550+99 for an OS = 649. The PC he listed was $699.

Not such a bad deal after all then is it?

Use Linux and you don't have to pay for an os. Just saved somebody $100.

[Jib]

So 550+99 for an OS = 649. The PC he listed was $699.

Not such a bad deal after all then is it?

It's a terrible deal...

3.8 ghz 4 core VS 4ghz 8 core

8 gig ram vs 12 gig ram

430 watt power supply vs 750 watt

CD rom drive... lol

500gig shitty hard drive VS 120 gig SSD

Shitty video card just ran benchmarks of both video cards the gtx 770 2gig (Which I have the 4gig version) ran roughly 25% faster than the 1x AMD Radeon R7 260X 2GB that he got with his bundle

spend 50$ to be far worse in every category.. WHAT A DEAL.

I feel bad for any company that let you near a PC elderan

[Tassador]

I did some spin kicks on the beach with my shirt off no Chinese tats tho... Getting ready for you jib!

[Chronoburn]

Use Linux and you don't have to pay for an os. Just saved somebody $100.

Or just host a windows party

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Imd1_39pLAM

[nilbog]

Got the same case. Same cpu cooler as well I think. Thermalsomething? Anyway..

It's a noctua nh-d15. I got it because of the stats and silence for air cooling, but mostly because of how ridiculous it looks.

Also, i7. Don't you guys think a 100 dollar investment in a rig you gonna use for like a decade is worth it? You bros prob spend more than that in a week at the local McDonald's.
Processor was $170, and board was about the same. I'll use these for a while, and then if need something else, will put them in an older case and resell. I try not to build pcs for eternity anymore, because of price drops. I have had absolutely no problems so far though, so I might keep this longer.


Shitty video card just ran benchmarks of both video cards the gtx 770 2gig (Which I have the 4gig version) ran roughly 25% faster than the 1x AMD Radeon R7 260X 2GB that he got with his bundle

Which gtx 770 did you get? I have the EVGA 04G-P4-3778-KR and that shit cost like $400. For me, the deciding factor for the 4gb was multi monitor support at higher resolutions (4096 x 2160).

[Burgerking]

AMD processors are significantly worse than Intel, but it's like the difference between the 0-60 speed on a ferrari vs a porsche...both are overkill and you'll never use it for gaming so save a buck.


Depends on what you're going for, for me personally all I care about is the benchmark for SLI or XFire, Amd or Intel all clock differently depending on CPU. Personally I'm gonna pick the CPU that benchmark's the highest with card's I'm SLI'ing or Xfiring. But you're not gonna need to SLI or XFire for EQ.

[Bazia]

I bought a 1200$ computer and all I play is everquest

im not very smart

[Jib]

Which gtx 770 did you get? I have the EVGA 04G-P4-3778-KR and that shit cost like $400. For me, the deciding factor for the 4gb was multi monitor support at higher resolutions (4096 x 2160).

EVGA GeForce GTX 770 4GB Dual SC w/ ACX Cooler(04G-P4-3774-KR)

Same one you got, I bought it on Ebay apparently a company was using it as a display in a storefront. No way to be sure if they were lying or not but they had 1000 positive feedback and when I got it, was still sealed in box and looked brand new. Running brand new games on the market today at ultra settings 60-100 fps depending whats going on.

In games with 100-200 people in front of you I drop to 30-45 FPS but I'm cool with that.

The card is amazing and weighs like 5 lb's its pretty awesome

[Kergan]

Depends on what you're going for, for me personally all I care about is the benchmark for SLI or XFire, Amd or Intel all clock differently depending on CPU. Personally I'm gonna pick the CPU that benchmark's the highest with card's I'm SLI'ing or Xfiring. But you're not gonna need to SLI or XFire for EQ.

That is kinda what I'm saying though. The benchmarks are sorta meaningless for EQ (granted most people use their shit for more than EQ). Lets say the AMD benchmarks at 900 and the Intel at 1010, but 200 is all you need to run EQ without any processor related issues if you feelers what I'm tryin' to get at.

[Jib]

That is kinda what I'm saying though. The benchmarks are sorta meaningless for EQ (granted most people use their shit for more than EQ). Lets say the AMD benchmarks at 900 and the Intel at 1010, but 200 is all you need to run EQ without any processor related issues if you feelers what I'm tryin' to get at.

yeah only thing that matter for EQ at this point is hard drive so you can zone faster than your opponent.

and it doesnt even come with a SSD....

fuck man if he took my scraps for 199$ i could build him a pc thats going to run eq faster than that "thing" he bought.

[Genedin]

I bought a 1200$ computer and all I play is everquest

im not very smart

This is why I buy other games like Shadow of Mordor and force myself to play them to justify the cost of my computer.

[Gixx]

I have an 8 core running at 4ghz or slightly higher and I actually had to underclock it to 3.6 in order for eq to run, even with the multi-cpu fix etc if you are running over 4ghz you may need to underclock just to get it to work.

[Kergan]

yeah only thing that matter for EQ at this point is hard drive so you can zone faster than your opponent.

and it doesnt even come with a SSD....

fuck man if he took my scraps for 199$ i could build him a pc thats going to run eq faster than that "thing" he bought.

Well, if you used parts from 10 years ago you would be running on shit that wasn't even conceived yet when this game was designed, lol.

Not sure I'd want a lot of people jacking around with RAM drives though.

[Jib]

Well, if you used parts from 10 years ago you would be running on shit that wasn't even conceived yet when this game was designed, lol.

Not sure I'd want a lot of people jacking around with RAM drives though.

my old parts were from 2 years ago...

Still can't believe everyone let poor innocent stasis buy this machine

were supposed to be a community

were supposed to be friends

were supposed to look out for each other

[Elderan]

my old parts were from 2 years ago...

Still can't believe everyone let poor innocent stasis buy this machine

were supposed to be a community

were supposed to be friends

were supposed to look out for each other

Nothing wrong with the machine other than it has an AMD.

Time=Money and while you may not highly value your time others do.

[Jib]

Nothing wrong with the machine other than it has an AMD.

Time=Money and while you may not highly value your time others do.

I value my time

that's why I play with a SSD

You Moran

[Burgerking]

That is kinda what I'm saying though. The benchmarks are sorta meaningless for EQ (granted most people use their shit for more than EQ). Lets say the AMD benchmarks at 900 and the Intel at 1010, but 200 is all you need to run EQ without any processor related issues if you feelers what I'm tryin' to get at.

For EQ it's pointless. You wouldn't even need to SLI or Xfire for EQ. Just saying Intel doesn't always smoke AMD when it comes to gaming, sometimes AMD's clock allot higher than Intel benchmarks for gaming performance. But AMD's almost always require a very custom cooling system that often negates the cheaper cost of the CPU.

For a solely EQ computer I'd prolly go with whatever is cheaper and compare the benchmarks on equally priced computers. But yea I agree that for Eq it don't matter.

[Burgerking]

I value my time

that's why I play with a SSD

You Moran

SSD has to have a very high read/write MB speed or it's gonna load zones at inferior to high GB ramdisk speeds. However raided SSD's result in almost instantaneous zone loading.

[Bazia]

heh

[Bazia]

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