Drakakade
11-05-2014, 02:49 PM
Issue: End poop-socking as requested by GMs Sirken, and Derubael.
Why: ? No reason given by GMs but presumably it increases their petition queue / workload or it's not classic. Either way, they have threatened to increase variance.
Definition Poop-socking: Camping out mains / alts at zone lines or actively waiting for mob spawns. Agree? GMs have not defined what they think is poop-socking... Maybe they have a different definition?
Who poop socks? GMs want to answer that one? Only you guys can give us the numbers. However, all of the larger C and R class guilds with access to multiple accounts camp out at the zone lines. I suspect that the C class guilds have alt armies camped out at every priority target.
Proposed Solutions:
1. Increase variance? Put forth by the GMs. Variance only penalizes the majority of the server and is advantageous to C class guilds. That social experiment was tried with a 7 day window + extra innings. It did not work. Poopsocking increased, and only 1 guild was willing to put in that kind of "effort", and did so for over 2 years. Worse, it created a monopoly which led to inflation, which incentivizes RMT. See Rogean's banhammer post.
2. C / R / FFA earthquake + bag limits; VP C only. Solves poopsocking somewhat.
First, the larger C and R class guilds would still camp out alt armies at every zone line, and then hop from target to target. However, priority targets would be more contested, and the bag limit would improve the situation. Right now, a smaller guild that has just entered the raid scene has little to no hope on FFA targets, because they cannot compete with the poop. Requires coding.
3. Mains only on engages - no alts? Throwing that out there. Would solve alt poop-socking and make it more equitable for competition for the smaller guilds. No coding required but a lot of pita by GMs to check maybe?
4. Start line at WC? OT? Really a crazy idea in it's simplicity, and adds the random number generator to it on earthquakes. IF folks like competition and racing then this should get your blood up. Folks would still camp alts at the start line however. No coding required.
5. Others?
Remember, the GMs have stated that poop-socking must end or else. Variance is a silly stick imo, but you can stop all boss mobs for a bit and that would get folks talking ;) Let's get some ideas rolling.
Why: ? No reason given by GMs but presumably it increases their petition queue / workload or it's not classic. Either way, they have threatened to increase variance.
Definition Poop-socking: Camping out mains / alts at zone lines or actively waiting for mob spawns. Agree? GMs have not defined what they think is poop-socking... Maybe they have a different definition?
Who poop socks? GMs want to answer that one? Only you guys can give us the numbers. However, all of the larger C and R class guilds with access to multiple accounts camp out at the zone lines. I suspect that the C class guilds have alt armies camped out at every priority target.
Proposed Solutions:
1. Increase variance? Put forth by the GMs. Variance only penalizes the majority of the server and is advantageous to C class guilds. That social experiment was tried with a 7 day window + extra innings. It did not work. Poopsocking increased, and only 1 guild was willing to put in that kind of "effort", and did so for over 2 years. Worse, it created a monopoly which led to inflation, which incentivizes RMT. See Rogean's banhammer post.
2. C / R / FFA earthquake + bag limits; VP C only. Solves poopsocking somewhat.
First, the larger C and R class guilds would still camp out alt armies at every zone line, and then hop from target to target. However, priority targets would be more contested, and the bag limit would improve the situation. Right now, a smaller guild that has just entered the raid scene has little to no hope on FFA targets, because they cannot compete with the poop. Requires coding.
3. Mains only on engages - no alts? Throwing that out there. Would solve alt poop-socking and make it more equitable for competition for the smaller guilds. No coding required but a lot of pita by GMs to check maybe?
4. Start line at WC? OT? Really a crazy idea in it's simplicity, and adds the random number generator to it on earthquakes. IF folks like competition and racing then this should get your blood up. Folks would still camp alts at the start line however. No coding required.
5. Others?
Remember, the GMs have stated that poop-socking must end or else. Variance is a silly stick imo, but you can stop all boss mobs for a bit and that would get folks talking ;) Let's get some ideas rolling.