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Chromos
11-02-2014, 04:33 PM
Hey all,

I was wondering if there is a list somewhere of the pvp changes that are going to be implemented and if there was a eta on when ?

Mostly because I am going to be making a char on red and wanted to know if a necro would be viable after I heard some dot changes are coming?

Also thinking about making a ranger or cleric.

Thanks

Potus
11-02-2014, 05:02 PM
Necro is great from 1-49. You'll not have fun pvp'ing after that, because melees will flatout destroy you before you cast 2 dots.

Cleric is awesome, you'll get groups very easily, and they're awesome in PvP. Rangers are good too, although untwinked early on will be rough, if you have a buddy to duo with you'll be alright.

Kergan
11-02-2014, 05:10 PM
Disregarded entire post when you said "rangers are good too".

Ranger without windstriker = garbage.

Chromos
11-02-2014, 05:20 PM
So then will necros be any better once the patch comes?

Kergan
11-02-2014, 05:22 PM
Maybe a bit.

Potus
11-02-2014, 05:23 PM
Rangers still destroy casters. Would take that "garbage" over a necro.

Kergan
11-02-2014, 05:27 PM
If a necro loses to a ranger they are playing the game incorrectly and in a bad/terrible manner.

I've watched Thrilla absolutely tear people new assholes with Rushx. Problem is necros are worthless in PVE because everything dies in 10 seconds so nobody mains them, and so very few are geared. A necro on par gear wise with some of the top wiz/ench would be a force (like Rushx).

Potus
11-02-2014, 05:31 PM
LOL stop trolling.

Drakaris
11-02-2014, 05:39 PM
Right now necros are fairly unplayable in pvp. It takes a perfect play to be able to beat an equally geared melee, which is easily countered by someone that uses pumice and cure pots as they will make you oom fairly quickly if they counter ur dots (pyrocuror and vexing morodinia can be countered in 1 pumice click; that is over 895 mana and 10 sec cast worth of dot gone in single 3 second click of a 15pp item).

From memory splurt/pyrocuror needed 3-4 pumice clicks or more to get rid of, which makes more sense than it does right now.

What about necro pets you say? There is no reference of damage being increased in any of the patch notes up until the 2004 reference for pet damage, so why they have nerfed the damage to 59 on a max summon EOT based on a random forum post confuses the hell out of me.

Post spell fix, necros are more viable, however pure melee still wreck you with an insanely high hit rate if they get close (non classic), so you will need to kite and position yourself in out of easily reached places.

Chromos
11-02-2014, 05:41 PM
lol maybe cleric or sk might be better idea then

Potus
11-02-2014, 10:34 PM
Right now necros are fairly unplayable in pvp. It takes a perfect play to be able to beat an equally geared melee, which is easily countered by someone that uses pumice and cure pots as they will make you oom fairly quickly if they counter ur dots (pyrocuror and vexing morodinia can be countered in 1 pumice click; that is over 895 mana and 10 sec cast worth of dot gone in single 3 second click of a 15pp item).

From memory splurt/pyrocuror needed 3-4 pumice clicks or more to get rid of, which makes more sense than it does right now.

What about necro pets you say? There is no reference of damage being increased in any of the patch notes up until the 2004 reference for pet damage, so why they have nerfed the damage to 59 on a max summon EOT based on a random forum post confuses the hell out of me.

Post spell fix, necros are more viable, however pure melee still wreck you with an insanely high hit rate if they get close (non classic), so you will need to kite and position yourself in out of easily reached places.

Yeah on live you needed way more than one click of pumice to dispel Splurt, and dispel often times took out your good buffs and kept the dot on. Here, you just keep the first slot open, click, it's off. Very non-classic, very bad for dot classes.

I'm under the impression that pets are bugged, in that they don't follow moving targets properly, and thus miss a lot, plus they don't proc dw/double attack enough, and they do not hit for full damage as much as they did on live.

I think I will one day jump on live and see how hard/how often they hit on people, because here it's so bad they're not worth casting.

gunner
11-03-2014, 08:25 AM
Yeah on live you needed way more than one click of pumice to dispel Splurt, and dispel often times took out your good buffs and kept the dot on. Here, you just keep the first slot open, click, it's off. Very non-classic, very bad for dot classes.

I'm under the impression that pets are bugged, in that they don't follow moving targets properly, and thus miss a lot, plus they don't proc dw/double attack enough, and they do not hit for full damage as much as they did on live.

I think I will one day jump on live and see how hard/how often they hit on people, because here it's so bad they're not worth casting.

Spec needs to Duel Wield, Resists need to be looked at on life taps to make them more viable for end game PVE encounters, Counters for dispelling will be huge. If they really want to make a change that will get people playing necro's make Dot tics give yellow text after zoning, As it is even if u win a fight all they have to do is zone to not get a yellow text and u just wasted a bar of mana.

Bazia
11-03-2014, 08:27 AM
can we get undispellable necro magic dot bug fixed too?

noticed u didnt mention dat one

gunner
11-03-2014, 08:51 AM
can we get undispellable necro magic dot bug fixed too?

noticed u didnt mention dat one

Game breaking, these necro's getting yellow text from invisible dots that you cant not disspell in one pumice is getting out of hand and is on par with warriors mighty strike and clicky's making nukes refresh faster

Sk00ba5t3v3
11-03-2014, 02:10 PM
Windstriker procs how often? Ya thought so.

Potus
11-03-2014, 02:21 PM
can we get undispellable necro magic dot bug fixed too?

noticed u didnt mention dat one

It's already fixed pending patch.

Gnomegrown
11-03-2014, 10:11 PM
Don't worry guys lead coder AMELINDA is going to fix all problems

update soon