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Extunarian
09-10-2010, 03:37 PM
What do you think about class-specific forums?

More discussion here:
http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=16935

Dantes
09-10-2010, 03:49 PM
I voted to have a forum for each class. I don't want to be lumped in with Rogues and Monks, heh heh.

guineapig
09-10-2010, 04:01 PM
Enchanters would also be in a bit of a pickle lumped together with a bunch of DPS classes.

Bubbles
09-10-2010, 04:47 PM
It's not like the majority of server chat new threads are:

"Thinking of starting a priest class" or "Want to play an INT caster-Suggestions?"

Go big or go home, all 14! :)

toddfx
09-10-2010, 05:10 PM
Although I understand that a board per each class might be stretching things a bit thin, I think in the long run it would be much more helpful than arch-type boards would be.

If you take a step back and look at the overall picture, the essential reason for creating class specific boards (of ANY variety) is to share/receive information on a very specific class. In order to find this information currently, you have to use the search function. If there were arch-type boards, wouldn't you still be forced to use the search function if you're looking for information on a specific class?

You'll still be sifting through cluttered, useless threads unless you enter a board that is geared entirely for the type of information you seek. If you are going to make the effort to build a library of information on each class, it might as well be well organized.

I guess I just see it as go big or go home. [EDIT: I did not copy off of Bubbles]

azeth
09-10-2010, 05:29 PM
i was told to go big or go home so i voted for class specific

liveitup1216
09-10-2010, 05:33 PM
sub forum for each class would be nice, keeps main channels not so flooded, and lots of people including longtime vets still have discussions on class mechanics etc

though i was tempted to vote to think outside the bun ya'll. :)

Noleafclover
09-10-2010, 06:24 PM
I like sub-forum for roles, I don't think there'd be quite enough traffic in say, the rogue forum. I also like the overlap, you might find somethin in a necro thread as a mage, etc.

The archetype doesn't break it down well enough. I mean wtf is a hybrid? Pretty much a ranger and that's it. Paladins and SKs are tanks.

I'd do -
Puller (monk bard SK)
Tank (war pal SK)
Melee DPS (monk rogue ranger)
Caster DPS (wiz mage nec)
CC (ench bard)
Priest (druid shaman priest)

So as a monk, if I have a topic on melee dps it goes in the melee dps forums, where it might help rogues, pulling puller forums for other pullers etc.

Gawain
09-10-2010, 06:28 PM
I like sub-forum for roles, I don't think there'd be quite enough traffic in say, the rogue forum. I also like the overlap, you might find somethin in a necro thread as a mage, etc.

The archetype doesn't break it down well enough. I mean wtf is a hybrid? Pretty much a ranger and that's it. Paladins and SKs are tanks.

I'd do -
Puller (monk bard SK)
Tank (war pal SK)
Melee DPS (monk rogue ranger)
Caster DPS (wiz mage nec)
CC (ench bard)
Priest (druid shaman priest)

So as a monk, if I have a topic on melee dps it goes in the melee dps forums, where it might help rogues, pulling puller forums for other pullers etc.

And where do you go if you have a question on gear or class specific quest?

Bubbles
09-10-2010, 06:57 PM
Since the obvious people these forums will help (lesser experienced, just starting out, etc) were already getting their asses kicked by the Search Function:

anything other than the typical 14 sub boards for each class is going to just confuse them further.

If the main justification for these boards is to reduce the clutter in Server Chat and help people find information on their class/quests/gear/etc... Why would we try and group up the subforums in strange ways to hide that information? It would completely defeat the purpose of having them.

Gawain
09-10-2010, 07:02 PM
Since the obvious people these forums will help (lesser experienced, just starting out, etc) were already getting their asses kicked by the Search Function:

anything other than the typical 14 sub boards for each class is going to just confuse them further.

If the main justification for these boards is to reduce the clutter in Server Chat and help people find information on their class/quests/gear/etc... Why would we try and group up the subforums in strange ways to hide that information? It would completely defeat the purpose of having them.

What he said.

Noleafclover
09-10-2010, 07:02 PM
And where do you go if you have a question on gear or class specific quest?

You mean for classes where you fit into two categories? They could either pick a home forum amongst themselves, or just do either one - I assume most monks will check both puller and dps forums, I know I would when I wanted to talk monk stuff. Also, sometimes there's an easy answer. SKs go to the tank thread, not the puller thread, since that's their primary role.

An example of a tougher one, I think bards go to the CC thread for bard-specific, not role-specific, talk, since they share more w/ enchanters than any other one class as far as role (mana/buffs/CC/slowing/hasting) - but I think some bards may feel more puller or melee dps. They can decide.


Class-specific ones aren't that much worse than role-specific, in my mind. I'm just thinking they'd be more stagnant, would add a lot of forums, and people would miss a lot of good advice from classes with overlapping roles.

Gawain
09-10-2010, 07:17 PM
Yeah, I get what you're saying. I'd probably simplify it to Tank/Dps/Priest/Caster/Ranger groups personally.

Noleafclover
09-10-2010, 07:37 PM
Yeah, I get what you're saying. I'd probably simplify it to Tank/Dps/Priest/Caster/Ranger groups personally.

He he ?

Gawain
09-10-2010, 07:40 PM
I was jokeing about the Ranger part =p

Vermicelli
09-06-2011, 08:02 PM
Have the devs given any more thought to class-specific subforums? This would be an excellent way to gather useful information about classes, like relevant quests, level-recommended gear, and recommendable hunting spots as well as class strategies and philosophy of game mechanics. As it is, we have people cluttering up the server general forum with posts about how to play a shaman, or where to solo a monk, or what gear a shadow knight should get, and these threads have been posted en facsimile AT LEAST 50 times each in the history of the forum. This would also make it way easier for people who actually have experience with the class in question to comment on the requested info.

I have lots of useful things to say about chanters, but I dun wanna retype the information a jillion times, answering the same questions over and over!

Snaggles
09-06-2011, 08:32 PM
Class specific. They play WAY too different to bulk.

Oh and sk/pal's are extremely hybrid. The bard is the closest thing to needing a new archetype.

bakkily
09-06-2011, 08:36 PM
yea, i see how this would help out alot not only for beginners, but anyone wanting to play a new class they have no clue about, or ect

Dirt McGirt
09-06-2011, 09:30 PM
there are too many subforums already. Really a terrible idea to add class boards at all.

Ennoia
09-06-2011, 10:13 PM
I like sub-forum for roles, I don't think there'd be quite enough traffic in say, the rogue forum. I also like the overlap, you might find somethin in a necro thread as a mage, etc.

The archetype doesn't break it down well enough. I mean wtf is a hybrid? Pretty much a ranger and that's it. Paladins and SKs are tanks.

I'd do -
Puller (monk bard SK)
Tank (war pal SK)
Melee DPS (monk rogue ranger)
Caster DPS (wiz mage nec)
CC (ench bard)
Priest (druid shaman priest)

So as a monk, if I have a topic on melee dps it goes in the melee dps forums, where it might help rogues, pulling puller forums for other pullers etc.

That's...a huge mess. Rangers, Druids, Enchanters, Clerics and Necromancers are all capable of pulling when done right, hell even Paladins in the right situation.

username17
09-06-2011, 10:43 PM
Tank (War Pal SK)
Melee (Monk, Rogue, Ranger, Bard)
Int Caster (Wiz, Necro, Mage)
Wis Caster (Druid, Shaman, priest)

When posting in each forum there would be a required drop down where you select either General or the class you are posting about.


And to the argument above, we're talking PRIMARY roles.
For instance, a cleric is not primarily a puller.

Vermicelli
09-07-2011, 03:05 AM
I think if there were a subforum for each class, it wouldn't be any more sprawling and unmanageable than the current situation where everyone just posts their class concerns in Server Chat. I don't know why all the Kunark bug subforums haven't been rolled into one by now anyway.

skulldudes
09-07-2011, 03:37 AM
i voted for archtype, then immediately wished i had voted per class. it would really be nice to have an active resource for each class for dudes like me who suck at this game.

the class wikis are nice to an extent, but extremely basic and sometimes even a little inaccurate.

i'm only glad i searched a bunch on my new character before giving him a mini-twinking. i had to do a bit of digging for it, and it's not entirely unreasonable, but class forums would streamline the effort so much.

i don't think i've ever had as much fun as i am now with a newbie ranger + silver swiftblade. IF ONLY EVERYONE COULD SHARE MY JOY

necrosaurio
09-07-2011, 04:52 AM
I voted for arch specific forums but now, thinking about it, what's the point? The wiki has an stupid amount of good information. If we added most of the important responses to the wiki, most of the questions would be answered by looking there.

Vermicelli
09-09-2011, 01:47 AM
The wiki has an stupid amount of good information. If we added most of the important responses to the wiki, most of the questions would be answered by looking there.

I really agree that the P99 wiki is the best immediately go-to'able resource for information about P99, but as evidenced by new threads made every day in Server Chat, there are people who neglect to check with the wiki before rattling off even basic questions about classes or game mechanics. I feel that class-specific subforums would also allow much more player interactivity and discussion about gameplay philosophy than the wiki can offer =)