Faction values for apprehensive

[Zliz]

Check out the faction number tables on the Wiki here:

http://wiki.project1999.com/Faction

According to them, apprehensive should be either a 100 or 150 points range. I have kept track of my Commonlands orc slaughter, and at ~650 faction hits (entries in my log saying "Your faction standing with AshenOrder got better") I was threatening to AshenOrder. At ~950 hits I was apprehensive. Now at 1298 hits I am still apprenhensive.

Does anyone else have data indicating that the apprehensive range is bigger?

[Buellen]

heya


Faction range if funky depending on your race / religion and some other factors.

Faction range I believe is from neg 3000 to pos 3000 in EQ

various faction will have various amount set in that range.

For example:

some faction may require you to from neg 2k to positive 2500 to become apprehensive or higher.

so kos at neg 2k then dubious pos 500 , apprehensive at pos 2500 , indifferent pos 2600.

This is why when you some faction it seem you stuck at one level for a very long stretch of faction work.

[Brocode]

you could do a check on eqlive, since now it shows the numbers when a mobs dies. But doesnt mean it would be exactly as here, just an approximation. Or even better just keep calculating so we can make an accurate wiki.

[Bboboo]

Spent 25-33 killing nothing but +cabilis faction mobs on my tunare woodelf ranger. Still at ready to attack

[Whirled]

Idk what class, race or choice of religion you are but some are pretty extreme when it comes to turning faction around.

[Zliz]

I guess checking on Live would be a good idea.

I wonder though, shouldn't we be able to dig up the precise numbers by digging through the source code, or would the faction brackets be stored in the database, which only the devs have access to? At the least, we should be able to get some default numbers off a public EQEmu database, which could be better than nothing. I'm at work now, but I have an EQEmu database setup at home and might check later.

Are the P1999 devs deliberately not giving up the actual numbers in the spirit of how it is/was in Live EQ?

Idk what class, race or choice of religion you are but some are pretty extreme when it comes to turning faction around.
Iksar Monk. The only other reason I can think of is that I'm "capped" at apprehensive, but then it would be a bug that it doesn't say that my faction with AshenOrder cannot be better. I know that my being Iksar and an evil religion will most likely mean that I can never get warmly. I read this on the wiki:
NOTE: In original classic, once your faction was capped with Iksar Troopers, you were unable to raise it with anywhere else in Cabilis as they all became capped (even if you were at scowling). I'm not sure if it is this way currently on P99, but please be aware of the possibility. It was later fixed on live
Could this be the case also with AshenOrder? If an Ikar Monk can pop in and say he's above apprehensive with the human monks it would be problem solved and I'll just keep grinding. After I hopefully reach amiably, I intend to repeat the White Sash quest in order to max it out, just for fun.

[Brocode]

Maybe checking a Database of eqemu, about capping iksars city, i doubt that is how it works here, since there was even a guide for factions:

http://web.archive.org/web/20030325235327/http://www.twenkill.net/anezka/Factions.html

[Widan]

You can only change your faction by +/- 2000 I believe from whatever you start at, anything after that does nothing.

[Whirled]

Idk what class, race or choice of religion you are but some are pretty extreme when it comes to turning faction around.

You can only change your faction by +/- 2000 I believe from whatever you start at, anything after that does nothing.

^He said it better. Makes sense though... how many Iksar Sk's shouldn't be KoS in a temple of light, love & goodness?

[Buellen]

I got to apprebensive with all north freeport with 300 cloth shirt turnins as iksar warrior. Also did brandy quest inqeynos so i could bank.

[Clark]

Spent 25-33 killing nothing but +cabilis faction mobs on my tunare woodelf ranger. Still at ready to attack

yikes

[webrunner5]

I killed Sir Lucan in W Freeport, as a High Elf Druid, and I have spent a ton of plat trying to raise my faction. Good luck with that. I have just about given up. After like 8k the hell with it. It has not moved faction wise forever. :eek:

[Zliz]

Woot, I finally reached indifferent after a total of between 1367 and 1463 hits!

I suspect that thing is wrong with the faction number ranges. See my Live testing thread here: http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=169491

Anyone else have similar experiences? I'm going to try and grind out approximately 100 more faction hits, and if I don't hit amiable, I think it's reasonable to say that something is up.

[Zliz]

Well, after 1912 faction hits I am finally kindly and am happy to report that Iksar Monks can indeed obtain the sashes.

At 1799 faction hits I was not able to do the White Sash quest, so it requires very high amiably or better to do.

I have updated the Wiki page: http://wiki.project1999.com/Monk_Sash_Quests