Fight for Trakanon - Who won the pvp? - The Colgate Story

[Andis]

actually, you didn't win the pvp

had to put this gem here

Azrael YTs > Holo YTs

leader of Holocaust claims Azrael did not win the pvp

all I gotta say colgate is, wow you are an idiot.

(not to mention Azrael going up against double the numbers)

[Mac Drettj]

grats on donald bps holocaust

i offered the 22 azrael corpses i saw rezzes but they were all offline or expired pvp timers

shrug

[Bazia]

the guild that didn't have all its players dead won the pvp

[Colgate]

not sure how i could possibly explain it to you if you don't understand it already

azrael: died, corpses sat in sebilis all night, were forced to log off
holocaust: lived, retrieved corpses, killed trakanon

which one do you guys think lost?

[Mac Drettj]

and by 22 i mean 44 since some people rez zergged and died 3-4 times but w/e

[Andis]

not sure you quite understand the concept of winning pvp

who won the pvp colgate?

[Colgate]

holocaust did, that's why we were able to stay in zone and kill the dragon on top of all of your corpses(in your case there were 3 or 4)

[Not_Kazowi]

the ode to my soul ...

as most of you may know, the one true item that I have been set out for god knows how long, is an AoN. Simply put the deadliest pvper needs the deadliest pvp item. You all know what I bring to the table.

my proposition ... the first guild/guildleader to offer me such an item ... my allegiance is sworn to thee forever ... ask around, ask about andis and his loyalty ...

im open for negotiations.

[Crazycloud]

You also failed to mention Azrael is fullly VP geared.

27 VP geared chars can win vs not only ungeared but underleveled chars.

You fail to realize something. Take a fully geared VP group vs a non fully geared VP group and what will happen? the fully geared VP group will fucking destroy the non group without losing one person and possible not even losing mana.

[Colgate]

sow advantage too, honestly you should be ashamed for losing andis

[Andis]

holy shit

go back to school colgate, either you are trolling hard or you just plain dumb dude

who won the pvp?

[Colgate]

Colgate Holocaust Guido Azrael Old Sebilis 0.16 October 23 2014 10:23:14 PM
Incognito Holocaust Guido Azrael Old Sebilis 0.16 October 23 2014 10:22:02 PM
Colgate Holocaust Guido Azrael Old Sebilis 1.78 October 23 2014 10:20:13 PM

did you win?

[Crazycloud]

Facts ignored, move on.

[Mac Drettj]

You also failed to mention Azrael is fullly VP geared.

27 VP geared chars can win vs not only ungeared but underleveled chars.

You fail to realize something. Take a fully geared VP group vs a non fully geared VP group and what will happen? the fully geared VP group will fucking destroy the non group without losing one person and possible not even losing mana.

sow advantage too, honestly you should be ashamed for losing andis

[Andis]

yes I am in Azrael

thanks for answering my question

[Colgate]

did you get your corpses yet?

[heartbrand]

the south got more killshots on the north [almost 2:1] so I guess the south won the civil war

[Andis]

facts of the pvp:

-Azrael got ALOT more YT than holo did

-Holocaust had DOUBLE the numbers on Azrael

who won the pvp?

[Stasis01]

Not really Red99 has and always will be, at least until Velious mostly a numbers game.

It's all about the assist dispell train. As long as you have a good group or two of geared players which you did, once the dispell hits even BIS players are dying in 5-10 seconds. 1800-2300 hp's unbuffed etc.

That being said you need to deal with a bunch of loot drama, hand holding, and raid leading and other issues that come with leading a guild like that, so I hardly think we're doing it wrong - it will come down to burn out / consistency / geared people who usually lose interest etc.

[heartbrand]

facts of the PVP

-The south got ALOT more YT than the north did

-The north had almost DOUBLE the numbers on the south

who won the pvp?

[Stasis01]

You also failed to mention Azrael is fullly VP geared.

27 VP geared chars can win vs not only ungeared but underleveled chars.

You fail to realize something. Take a fully geared VP group vs a non fully geared VP group and what will happen? the fully geared VP group will fucking destroy the non group without losing one person and possible not even losing mana.

My post in response to - damn lotta spammen fucks today.

[Colgate]

That being said you need to deal with a bunch of loot drama, hand holding, and raid leading and other issues that come with leading a guild like that, so I hardly think we're doing it wrong - it will come down to burn out / consistency / geared people who usually lose interest etc.

given azrael's track record, i'd say you're pretty fucked tbh

[Doors]

Yeah Andis you won pvp, which is why you guys had to plug from the game and lost Trakanon.

Delusional.

[Stasis01]

given azrael's track record, i'd say you're pretty fucked tbh

Track record of being the only guild that doesn't mass recruit and try to be a pixel machine? Yep shits still looking good.

[Colgate]

Track record of being the only guild that doesn't mass recruit and try to be a pixel machine? Yep shits still looking good.

that's funny, when nihilum was around azrael literally never closed recruitment; it's just that no one wanted to join us

i recall many times when we'd win a little bit, gain momentum, and keep recruiting until we're bringing 40+ to every single raid while nihilum had 30 or less

[heartbrand]

Track record of being the only guild that doesn't mass recruit and try to be a pixel machine? Yep shits still looking good.

farmed all mobs for weeks when nilly disbanded, absorbed hokuten thereby killing off other guild, left meaningless mobs like nagafen up that no1 cares about nor kills, guild full of ex nihilum members who "already got their loot" and sit in places like HS and Crypt 24/7 farming pixels. ya ok. holy fuck ur dum

[Stasis01]

I am not saying Azraels the good guys, I am just saying we don't mass recruit everyone to raid 30 hrs a week just to gear up a bunch of nobodies.

That's the template for Nihi that's been done for years - if people wanted that they'd just join Nizzar who was probably more reliable and consistent than any other guild leader I've seen.

[Not_Kazowi]

Everyone knows the timers, recruit and contest 8]

[Andis]

so many retards in here its hysterical

azrael won the pvp

holocaust won the mob

thats all folks

[Crazycloud]

Actually dude, There is a ton of chill people in holo even tho they so noob.

They are good peeps still, i enjoy playing with most of them.

[Stasis01]

that's funny, when nihilum was around azrael literally never closed recruitment; it's just that no one wanted to join us

i recall many times when we'd win a little bit, gain momentum, and keep recruiting until we're bringing 40+ to every single raid while nihilum had 30 or less

People were immersed in trying to beat Nizzar - once he was gone, we didn't become him, you guys reformed the same guild trying to rebuild the same players/mentality.

We needed everyone to beat Nizzar, didn't happen - people were too greedy/warm body/velious pixel little bitches.

Least rat fuck HB took him out - 225 pop Trak night fight.

[Pikrib]

Pvp decides who gets to slay the dragon. I would have to say that if a third guild rolled past Holo and Azrael slaying each other and slayed the dragon with out even engaging in pvp that the 3rd guild would have "won".

Holo won Trak



See ya in the Peak Sunday.

[Burgerking]

Actually dude, There is a ton of chill people in holo even tho they so noob.

They are good peeps still, i enjoy playing with most of them.

I don't think they understand that a large bulk of our guild is fresh from blue. Most of them hideously undergeared and low level. They act like we are Nihilum with 30 BIS guys, but each fight, each victory, or loss our guys learn a little more.

Enjoy this time Azrael because the longer this drags out the worse it's gonna get for ya's.

[Not_Kazowi]

Nobody wanted to recreate Nihilum except azrael when they consumed a guild and raided 36 deep Sunday morning at 8am.

Holocaust was told to recruit and compete, that happened and now azrael clings to anything they have left.

[Pikrib]

farmed all mobs for weeks when nilly disbanded, absorbed hokuten thereby killing off other guild, left meaningless mobs like nagafen up that no1 cares about nor kills, guild full of ex nihilum members who "already got their loot" and sit in places like HS and Crypt 24/7 farming pixels. ya ok. holy fuck ur dum

Holo absorbed 50 Blazed allied with x-nilly gods work...

blah blah blah de blah.....

Stop sellin the cool aid because no one is buying it.

[Colgate]

azrael already gutted another guild and showed us that they have no interest in actually upholding what they're spouting about in order to look like the "good guys"

they gutted hokuten and then griefed blaze into disbanding

what was their choice? join eternal light, which is a feeder guild for the people that just shit all over them while they're in rags trying to level up?

here's azrael's motto:
"we're not recruiting, go play with the other team or make your own team, but if you make your own team we'll grief you while you have zero chance at beating us, and if you join the other team, it means you're a faggot that's ruining the server and we'll do everything in our power to force you to stop playing"

[heartbrand]

Holo absorbed 50 Blazed allied with x-nilly gods work...

blah blah blah de blah.....

Stop sellin the cool aid because no one is buying it.

Not sherrif srs. Holocaust barely recruited anyone at first. In fact I begged Gongshow & Seawall to invite more people but they were steadfast in running a tight ship. Then, when AZ started showing up weekly with 35-38 people for 9am VS's, we were left with no choice but to counter zerg. There was a good 3-4 week period there with Seawall reaching out to keep guilds small @ 25 caps. AZ shit on it telling you know the timers recruit and contest. We did. c ya in thurgadin

[daasgoot]

what was their choice? join eternal light, which is a feeder guild for the people that just shit all over them while they're in rags trying to level up?

I have not personally witnessed any EL members joining azrael. Seen multiple EL members go to holo.

who's feeder guild is it?

[Burgerking]

at this point i'd wonder if you guys can field 20 considering you have 0 leadership. no offense gongshow was a stupid decision the guy has no history here, and you know you are not devoted. This isnt a sunday thing, Holocaust has no structure.

Lite said recruit but he didn't believe we could, and Heartbrand called it perfectly.

Honestly Lite's only fucking himself because the net result will be guilds realizing the only way to compete is to just out zerg recruit at which point AZ will be on the outside looking in again and server will still be the same.

As usual Lite defeats himself by being too short sighted and proud. Basically he counted his chickens before they hatched.

[Pikrib]

Nobody wanted to recreate Nihilum except azrael when they consumed a guild and raided 36 deep Sunday morning at 8am.

Holocaust was told to recruit and compete, that happened and now azrael clings to anything they have left.

blah blah Holo raids CT at 3 AM with 50... blah blah Holo raids Trak with 72 last week... blah blah blah

If your kool aid is too strong no one will buy it.

[Stalos_]

Holy shit andis. get a grip.

[Stasis01]

I just wonder when people will stop being so scared of Az they all join the same guild.

Probably never.

[Colgate]

did we do any of that before we mass recruited and got told to fuck off at every attempt to negotiate?

azrael set the stage dawg, we're just better actors

[heartbrand]

ya real scared of a bunch of bluebies who hide in OOT and HS 24/7

[Not_Kazowi]

Everyone knows the timers, recruit and contest. See you in thurgaydin

[Colgate]

pretty sure azrael would've died out by now if holocaust didn't start up again; they would've imploded after 2 months of raiding over loot decisions like they've done multiple times in the past

[Stasis01]

In our defense you'll still be told to fuck off even if you remake Nihi.

[Stasis01]

But I don't think you guys will follow through, and what happens after that can be interesting.

[Colgate]

In our defense you'll still be told to fuck off even if you remake Nihi.

what does that even mean? i got told to fuck off when holocaust was raiding with me, gongshow, waspnado, drez, terpuntine, and 15 new players who were level 50 with banded armor

[heartbrand]

why do canadian prisons allow wi-fi?

[Buhbuh]

the south got more killshots on the north [almost 2:1] so I guess the south won the civil war

I lol'd

[Nirgon]

I think some of these guys are still missing armor in slots

And have banded/bronze in others

Not for long, we help new players

[Eslade]

what does that even mean? i got told to fuck off when holocaust was raiding with me, gongshow, waspnado, drez, terpuntine, and 15 new players who were level 50 with banded armor
http://media20.giphy.com/media/jhYkl2eAi9esE/giphy.gif?w=320

[Stasis01]

what does that even mean? i got told to fuck off when holocaust was raiding with me, gongshow, waspnado, drez, terpuntine, and 15 new players who were level 50 with banded armor

You joined up with Gong and the other Nihi Holo players and demanded raid mobs - when told to fuck off you joined with the Nihi guys and mass recruited.

I don't see how this is an Azrael problem, and I can't say for sure, but I'm pretty sure "fuck off" still stands and no one gives a shit or wants to play that type of guild(I've been in a better version of it, it sucks/drains your soul)

[daasgoot]

we help new players

kind of a broad statement there nirgon. you help new players that join your zerg. grief new players that dont(not you specifically but other holo members)

[heartbrand]

^ above poster had more DKP in nilly than gongshow and gyno

[Pikrib]

I have not personally witnessed any EL members joining azrael. Seen multiple EL members go to holo.

who's feeder guild is it?

Azrael let 6 members in after Jibekn disbanded his guild. They renamed their guild Eternal Light and I don't think Azrael has let any EL guys join, they all goto Holocaust. Everyone feeds the Holocaust machine.

Jump on that train boys there will be a nice poison gas shower waiting when you get off.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/03/09/article-2576833-1C267F1600000578-174_634x471.jpg

Holocaust has absorbed some EL members.
Holocaust has absorbed ex nilly members who were recently unbanned.
Holocaust has absorbed 50 Blazed members.
Holocaust absorbed Circle of Tyrants.
Holocaust has absorbed most of Flowers of Happiness.

[Colgate]

You joined up with Gong and the other Nihi Holo players and demanded raid mobs - when told to fuck off you joined with the Nihi guys and mass recruited.

I don't see how this is an Azrael problem, and I can't say for sure, but I'm pretty sure "fuck off" still stands and no one gives a shit or wants to play that type of guild(I've been in a better version of it, it sucks/drains your soul)

lol Nihi Holo players? you mean like yourself?

i never once said "hey man can we kill this raid mob please?"

i asked for you to move the timers to normal hours so we could actually fight over it, got told to fuck off and recruit

[Eslade]

kind of a broad statement there nirgon. you help new players that join your zerg. grief new players that dont(not you specifically but other holo members)

Can't let potential zerglings go to competing guilds. Gotta discourage anybody from joining the competition and disparage the other guilds. See the eternal light guild posting for an example.

[Colgate]

Azrael let 6 members in after Jibekn disbanded his guild. They renamed their guild Eternal Light and I don't think Azrael has let any EL guys join, they all goto Holocaust. Everyone feeds the Holocaust machine.

Jump on that train boys there will be a nice poison gas shower waiting when you get off.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/03/09/article-2576833-1C267F1600000578-174_634x471.jpg

Holocaust has absorbed some EL members.
Holocaust has absorbed ex nilly members who were recently unbanned.
Holocaust has absorbed 50 Blazed members.
Holocaust absorbed Circle of Tyrants.
Holocaust has absorbed most of Flowers of Happiness.

have people forgotten that azrael did this exact same thing to nihilum and now they act like they're above that?

let's be honest, the only reason azrael hasn't recruited new people is because they're selfish and just want to farm raid mobs for the core of level 60s

that's why they're not recruiting yet they're inviting anyone who's already 60 and fully geared; they have no interest in trying to establish a real guild because they tried that before 100x and failed every time due to petty loot drama

[Stasis01]

lol Nihi Holo players? you mean like yourself?

i never once said "hey man can we kill this raid mob please?"

i asked for you to move the timers to normal hours so we could actually fight over it, got told to fuck off and recruit

I can think of at least two different type of Nihi players(there were more most likely)

Those there because there was no other choice, and they wanted to max their toons out then do what they want.

And those who didn't give a shit, got gear, stayed quiet, and really don't really care about the box or who runs it as long as they are the have's.

I have a problem with the second type of player when things stay the same after 3 years, and it is much better now and the population is starting to show it.(yes that includes the people who just basically retired under Nizzar waiting for Velious pixels)

[Stasis01]

Asking to move raid timers to a time better for the people that warm bodied Nizzar for years, laughable.

Just man up and own the decision, stop playing games.

[heartbrand]

"years"

typically the s there would indicate plural, aka more than 1 year


Gongshow - active in nilly for 4 months?
terp - 2-3 months?
gyno - showed up to 20 raids total?
tibberz - joined nilly for 2 months?

YEARS
















YEARS
























Stasis <Nihilum>
Danak <Nihilum>

[Colgate]

stasis hardcore raided for longer than any of those players and was(still is) far more of a detriment to the community

[Andis]

Asking to move raid timers to a time better for the people that warm bodied Nizzar for years, laughable.

Just man up and own the decision, stop playing games.

[Mac Drettj]

stasis was raiding uncontested kunark (uncontested cus 0 other guilds leeel)

and resorted to training the first opposition that arose

wonders why everyone thinks hes a nerd

[Buhbuh]

Stasis' post is interesting on so many levels. Let's follow that train of thought to its natural conclusion, maybe even dispel a few retarded assertions in the process.

We never demanded anything, we asked. I doubt Colgate was presumptuous enough to make any demand with Holocaust fielding twelve players.

The other interesting conundrum is - when Azrael told us to recruit and contest, where did they expect Holocaust to recruit from in order to contest them legitimately using even numbers?

Using the twelve Holocaust players with all of the up and coming level 45's from Blaze at the time?

Explain to me what pool of players we could have recruited from that weren't in some way affiliated with Nihilum at that time?

I'd really love to hear your theory on this.

Your condemnation of Holocaust because of some Nihilum players in it on a 150 population server is a cop-out. You want loot uncontested. Your guild was extremely content with 35 deep each week on Sunday morning and no one there to fuck with you. Otherwise you wouldn't have had 35. You would have had the bare minimum. That's why your numbers dwindle on each subsequent repop day where you're contested (especially when you lose).

Your criteria for "Nihilum" guilds is one based on size. You don't give a shit that some of our players were in a previous guild you hated. You know we're a different guild. You just want something to hate because the game is boring for you otherwise.

And you also know that had we not recruited already geared players, we'd be rebuilding from the ground up while you farmed uncontested for over six months.

Sorry we couldn't oblige you. Fire giant.

[Stasis01]

"years"

typically the s there would indicate plural, aka more than 1 year


Gongshow - active in nilly for 4 months?
terp - 2-3 months?
gyno - showed up to 20 raids total?
tibberz - joined nilly for 2 months?

YEARS

You, so the RD/stealing drama, Cyren so the Force drama, Rettiwalk - yup that would be enough.

Not to mention Gongshow trying to bait the God's Work aka the real Nihi into Holo to fight Az and them not attacking each other.

You aren't incorrect in saying those names were non factors in the guild, but there was enough people that have beef to make that offer obviously a joke.

hence the premise of making the Nihi template guild also a joke.
















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Stasis <Nihilum>
Danak <Nihilum>

[Stasis01]

"years"

typically the s there would indicate plural, aka more than 1 year


Gongshow - active in nilly for 4 months?
terp - 2-3 months?
gyno - showed up to 20 raids total?
tibberz - joined nilly for 2 months?

YEARS

Fucking put my post in the quote zomg.
















YEARS
























Stasis <Nihilum>
Danak <Nihilum>

[Stasis01]

WTF

You, so the RD/stealing drama, Cyren so the Force drama, Rettiwalk - yup that would be enough.

Not to mention Gongshow trying to bait the God's Work aka the real Nihi into Holo to fight Az and them not attacking each other.

You aren't incorrect in saying those names were non factors in the guild, but there was enough people that have beef to make that offer obviously a joke.

hence the premise of making the Nihi template guild also a joke.

[Stasis01]

Stasis' post is interesting on so many levels. Let's follow that train of thought to its natural conclusion, maybe even dispel a few retarded assertions in the process.

We never demanded anything, we asked. I doubt Colgate was presumptuous enough to make any demand with Holocaust fielding twelve players.

The other interesting conundrum is - when Azrael told us to recruit and contest, where did they expect Holocaust to recruit from in order to contest them legitimately using even numbers?

Using the twelve Holocaust players with all of the up and coming level 45's from Blaze at the time?

Explain to me what pool of players we could have recruited from that weren't in some way affiliated with Nihilum at that time?

I'd really love to hear your theory on this.

Your condemnation of Holocaust because of some Nihilum players in it on a 150 population server is a cop-out. You want loot uncontested. Your guild was extremely content with 35 deep each week on Sunday morning and no one there to fuck with you. Otherwise you wouldn't have had 35. You would have had the bare minimum. That's why your numbers dwindle on each subsequent repop day where you're contested (especially when you lose).

Your criteria for "Nihilum" guilds is one based on size. You don't give a shit that some of our players were in a previous guild you hated. You know we're a different guild. You just want something to hate because the game is boring for you otherwise.

And you also know that had we not recruited already geared players, we'd be rebuilding from the ground up while you farmed uncontested for over six months.

Sorry we couldn't oblige you. Fire giant.

I made it 1/4 through so I'll reply to that - I don't care what you do or why you did it, just this bullshit myth that your reacting to Azrael's response.

If you want to be in a safe 1 guild PVE farming box, that is the players right to do so - Azrael hard as fuck always will be, peace bitch skipped the rest 2/3 couldn't do it.

[Mac Drettj]

stacy so rustled hes quivering and misclicking POST QUICK REPLY over and over again

[Not_Kazowi]

Everyone knows the timers, recruit and contest. See you in thurgaydin

[Buhbuh]

He's really lost it.

[Stasis01]

It is a lot of pressure for one man to keep the red99 forums legit and honest.

[Buhbuh]

Yeah. Thanks for acknowledging me. 'preciate it.

[Andis]

It is a lot of pressure for one man to keep the red99 forums legit and honest.

im here too bro

you not alone

[krazyGlue]

holo wont the fight. GG. azrael got more kills yes but not enuff to stop the zerg

[krazyGlue]

won*

[Not_Kazowi]

Sickpuppy not such a bad guy

[Mac Drettj]

ya they shouldn't treat him the way they do

hes prob their best asset for PVE

[krazyGlue]

im suspended on 5/6 accounts cant rly do much each at 90 days per account

[Stasis01]

Hahahhaha

[Stasis01]

Honestly you should have warn decays like Dota and shit - if you play everyday for a few years you're bound to sperg out once or twice, lets be real.

[Stasis01]

I liked Loudog spamming that he likes Sirkens moms fat titties and shit after getting griefed by Holo haha.

[Pitborn]

p good thread.

[Mac Drettj]

3 in a row from stasis

the longer the day goes the longer his chainposts get

[Slathar]

good lord

[Smedy]

put down the keyboard andis, fuk man, we lost we gonna have to deal with it

[Slathar]

put down the keyboard andis, fuk man, we lost we gonna have to deal with it

can i sleep on ur coach ill be in Stockholm

i am completely trustworthy

[Nirgon]

-- reading along
-- sip soda
-- see tri-post
-- snortle
-- sip soda
-- reading along

[krazyGlue]

-- reading along
-- sip soda
-- see tri-post
-- snortle
-- sip soda
-- reading along

should change from soda. to bottled water. unless you want nizzar teeth

[Mac Drettj]

can i sleep on ur coach ill be in Stockholm

i am completely trustworthy

can we get some voyeur cams?

[Colgate]

bottled water seems like a scam to me, would rather buy a water filter and save a fuckton of money

i can't tell the difference tbh that shit all tastes the same to me

[Nirgon]

No bottled water, No Azrael tag, No Nihilum tag, No shit

[Andis]

put down the keyboard andis, fuk man, we lost we gonna have to deal with it

to say we lost the pvp is wrong

we lost the pve for sure

the yt confirms that azrael won the pvp

not sure why people dont see this

[heartbrand]

to say we lost the pvp is wrong

we lost the pve for sure

the yt confirms that azrael won the pvp

not sure why people dont see this

hey moran, cuz if u won the pvp, u would've won the mob and been standing victorious over 57 dead holo. but instead 57 holo stood on top of 22 azrael corpses. PEACE *****

[Eslade]

Naw smedy is right. If you're playing a game like paintball and you agree to take on more people than your team has, you still lose if all players on your team leave the field.

[Buhbuh]

i think people think Holocaust won because Azrael's shit is all over the ground in sebilis still and because Holo was the last guild standing, much like the north in the civil war was after hemorrhaging soldiers into the better trained south soldiers until they fell.

next time we're gonna use our own general Sherman and scorched Earth some motherfuckers.

[baalzy]

If you're playing capture the flag.

Half your team gets captured.

None of the opposing teams players have been captured.

Your one of your teammates makes it to home base with the opposing teams flag, your flag is still at home base.

Who won?

[Andis]

hey moran, cuz if u won the pvp, u would've won the mob and been standing victorious over 57 dead holo. but instead 57 holo stood on top of 22 azrael corpses. PEACE *****

hey moran, if you think we came for the mob, you are more stupid than I originally thought

azrael came for the yt

we got 10x more of it than you

gg

/thread

[Bazia]

"Even though we all died, we won the pvp"

[heartbrand]

hey moran, if you think we came for the mob, you are more stupid than I originally thought

azrael came for the yt

we got 10x more of it than you

gg

/thread

O so u came to lose all ur bodies underneath holo, got u

[Andis]

"Even though we all died, we won the pvp"

yes that is what colgate is saying lol

[Not_Kazowi]

hey moran, if you think we came for the mob, you are more stupid than I originally thought

azrael came for the yt

we got 10x more of it than you

gg

/thread

Yeah dawg we came and killed more of you than you killed of us but our corpses are locked at the bottom of trak as we log off and you disperse dragon loot.

Gg

/thread

#autism
#balding

[Andis]

Yeah dawg we came and killed more of you than you killed of us

thanks for recognizing rexx

long live pvp
long live yt

[Buhbuh]

lol

andis is real dumb

i think his guildies must be cringing

[Andis]

ya we cringing as we charge holo (55) to azrael (27)

real cringeworthy

learn2pvp

[Mac Drettj]

http://thumbs.newschoolers.com/index.php?src=http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-c1X9-H1LuJA/TdBEGvo9BpI/AAAAAAAABg4/jN2ng54dY9M/s1600/its-time-to-stop-posting-cat-cats-kitten-kitty-pic-picture-funny-lolcat-cute-fun-lovely-photo-images.jpg&size=400x1000

[Nirgon]

Notice how 99% of the recruits don't even give a fuck about this toxic forum shit?

Most said that was fun they almost got us and that was the end of it.

That's the kind of players this box needs.

[hagard]

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[Andis]

the movie 300 actually depicts the events last night in a perfect manner

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDpI6Zzy-vo

enjoy

[Buhbuh]

yeah you should learn to die with grace, andith

competition doesn't mean the vitriol is necessary

no one really cares, it was a good fight

[Pitborn]

That donalds bp powered me through a few hours of xp grind last night.

Who won?

I DID.

[Mac Drettj]

winners and whiners

[daasgoot]

That donalds bp powered me through a few hours of xp grind last night.

Who won?

I DID.

bro /tell goot next time u grinding them sweet sweet xp's.

[LulzSect]

yikes

[Buhbuh]

I know, the sig worthy posts made by Andis are innumerable

[Crazycloud]

put down the keyboard andis, fuk man, we lost we gonna have to deal with it

[Goobles]

holy shit

go back to school colgate, either you are trolling hard or you just plain dumb dude

who won the pvp?

Azrael vs Nihilum : Dude, you guys have a lot of gear, we have to get numbers to compete

Holocaust vs Azrael : Dude, you guys have a lot of gear, we have to get numbers to compete

Same story, different day. Aaaaaaand, Andis is still retarded.

[Recycled Children]

My little brother used to get really upset when he lost board games and proclaim he was still the best even when he lost. The difference between that scenario and this one is he was 5.

[Kergan]

One of the worst FQ beatdowns I've seen in awhile. Don't think Andis will shit right for a month.

[Thepen]

I love that you guys are claiming a gear advantage. For reference, I have 0 VP items. I also haven't received a single item from Kunark from Azrael. I'm not the only one in this boat. Enjoy.

[Thepen]

I also shit all over you guys last night, and survived.

[Mac Drettj]

I love that you guys are claiming a gear advantage. For reference, I have 0 VP items. I also haven't received a single item from Kunark from Azrael. I'm not the only one in this boat. Enjoy.

thats kinda sad actually

bye

[Colgate]

I love that you guys are claiming a gear advantage. For reference, I have 0 VP items. I also haven't received a single item from Kunark from Azrael. I'm not the only one in this boat. Enjoy.

pretty sure we gave you a dragon hero bracer off of faydedar once

[Not_Kazowi]

Holocaust looted dragon gear on top of azrael corpses but they lost. Hope holocaust never wins then u feel?

[Kergan]

I love that you guys are claiming a gear advantage. For reference, I have 0 VP items. I also haven't received a single item from Kunark from Azrael. I'm not the only one in this boat. Enjoy.

Hah, people talking about getting their 2nd crowns and shit 'cause everyone is decked out and this poor fuck hasn't even got anything yet.

[Colgate]

Hah, people talking about getting their 2nd crowns and shit 'cause everyone is decked out and this poor fuck hasn't even got anything yet.

i remember awarding him a dragon hero bracer

[Knuckle]

I think the core argument here is the definition of winning, I've simplified this situation for everyone involvedwin
win/
verb
1.
be successful or victorious in (a contest or conflict).
"the Mets have won four games in a row"
synonyms: take, be the victor in, be the winner of, come first in, take first prize in, triumph in, be successful in More
be the winner, come in first, be victorious, carry the day, win the day, come out on top, succeed, triumph, prevail
antonyms: lose
2.
acquire or secure as a result of a contest, conflict, bet, or other endeavor.
"there are hundreds of prizes to be won"
synonyms: secure, gain, garner, collect, pick up, walk away/off with, carry off; More
gain (a person's attention, support, or love), typically gradually or by effort.
"you will find it difficult to win back their attention"
synonyms: captivate, steal, snare, capture
"she won his heart"
gain the support or favor of someone by action or persuasion.
"her sense of humor had won him over at once"
manage to succeed or achieve something by effort.
"talent won out over bureaucracy"
archaic
manage to reach (a place) by effort.
"many lived to win the great cave"
obtain (ore) from a mine.
noun
noun: win; plural noun: wins
1.
a successful result in a contest, conflict, bet, or other endeavor; a victory.
"a win against Norway"
synonyms: victory, triumph, conquest
"a 1–0 win"

[Doors]

My little brother used to get really upset when he lost board games and proclaim he was still the best even when he lost. The difference between that scenario and this one is he was 5.

[Knuckle]

By the definition of the word win in all three versions it would appear holocaust won

[Nirgon]

By the definition of the word win in all three versions it would appear holocaust won

http://31.media.tumblr.com/78a522b127a1fbc2620e7a67635d81a9/tumblr_mlp5smXg0J1ry9t4co1_400.gif

[Mac Drettj]

I think the core argument here is the definition of winning, I've simplified this situation for everyone involvedwin
win/
verb
1.
be successful or victorious in (a contest or conflict).
"the Mets have won four games in a row"
synonyms: take, be the victor in, be the winner of, come first in, take first prize in, triumph in, be successful in More
be the winner, come in first, be victorious, carry the day, win the day, come out on top, succeed, triumph, prevail
antonyms: lose
2.
acquire or secure as a result of a contest, conflict, bet, or other endeavor.
"there are hundreds of prizes to be won"
synonyms: secure, gain, garner, collect, pick up, walk away/off with, carry off; More
gain (a person's attention, support, or love), typically gradually or by effort.
"you will find it difficult to win back their attention"
synonyms: captivate, steal, snare, capture
"she won his heart"
gain the support or favor of someone by action or persuasion.
"her sense of humor had won him over at once"
manage to succeed or achieve something by effort.
"talent won out over bureaucracy"
archaic
manage to reach (a place) by effort.
"many lived to win the great cave"
obtain (ore) from a mine.
noun
noun: win; plural noun: wins
1.
a successful result in a contest, conflict, bet, or other endeavor; a victory.
"a win against Norway"
synonyms: victory, triumph, conquest
"a 1–0 win"

Heh

[Knuckle]

Furthermore, we can tailor the definition of winning to the meaning intended for ever quest PvP. I don't think any have doubted that winning PvP in ever quest is of the following conditions:

1.) Winning a 1v1 duel.
2.) Yellow text without dying, mostly notable in world PvP.
3.) Guild level PvP can have a few ways to reach condition "win".
a.) Disrupting or preventing a raid with a small number of opposing guild, even if this results in total loss.
Example: guild a wants to slay naggy with 25. Opposing force prevents nagafen from being slain with only 10 players, this would be a victory condition for the smaller guild.
b) Defeating an opposing guild and claiming objective. Example: a guild wants to slay cazic Thule, guild B comes and defeats the other guild and slays cazic Thule. Guild B is the winner.
Example 2: Guild a battles guild b, guild b claims cazic Thule but then receives a total wipe to guild a. In this case guild b wins condition objective, but guild a wins total defeat(guild b requires consent of other guild to retrieve corpses, loss of zone control).
3.) Loss of majority in non contested zone: group/guild PvP in world zone, with no raid objective. Loss of zone control in non raid environment resulting in consent to be rezzed or recover corpses.

These are some clear ways to help understand if your guild has won or lost PvP in everquest. I hope this has helped clear some confusion on the subject.

I think I shall wiki this shit.