Open Petition to Unsuspend Redd and Denz

[Colgate]

that was a clean fight

i have no idea why they got suspended tbh

[Stasis01]

And Gaanon, stop the discrimination.

[quido]

Appreciate the GMs trying to keep a lid on training, but I thought that fight was clean as hell too. Shit pops, shit happens, I didn't see anyone being a doucher.

[Bazia]

they got caught gathering most likely

[Kergan]

Should be the GMs do nothing if the other side doesn't petition.

[quido]

One of them I know had just gotten rezzed.

[dustysr06]

dat yt looked intense- pras

[Not Salem]

Eh guys this is classic Sirken/Derubael stepping in biannually to drop some banhammers on the first people they see to get across a point - no training, but will not follow up with any bans until 6 moths later. Happened when PnP came out, when you could start getting suspended for /ooc, when you could get suspended for posting on the forums. Appreciate the support though Colgate, it was a fun fight.

[Drakaris]

Redd was a dude I helped on Kairo back when he was new, nice guy but prolonged exposure to Azrael generally warps a player (look at Stasis for example). Denz I'm assuming is another monk?

I've always found that Sirken has always been fair with his judgement, so I suspect he may have seen them gathering a train (perhaps due to pressure from their guild leadership) and decided to intervene. I would say if that had been the scenario, that could have very well been the reason you guys had a clean fight in the first place.

I am curious though (and jelly to not have been there).

[Sirken]

i recorded the whole thing, one person was suspended for gathering up 4-5 mobs and heading back towards the fight. i decided to step in and neutralize that before it ruined the pvp.

ill post the link after its uploaded, that said, it was a good fight. and no one got suspended for repop aggro, contrary to what most of you believe, not a dumdum.

[Dacuk]

damn bummed i missed this fight. can i get an elderan count on the numbers?

[HappyTr33z]

Hell yes gm justice at last! Hope it can be a regular thing :D

[Buhbuh]

Yes, I am not pleased to have missed this.

[Drakaris]

Yes, I am not pleased to have missed this.

Me too! I would have probably brought Assault or Skar... next time!

[quido]

damn it could have been 60 vs 26 instead of 57 vs 26

never felt as good about losing as I did tonight lol

[Complexity]

can't wait to see this video.

[Colgate]

it was like 55 v 27, azrael all had sow, we didn't

was a close fight, real chaotic shitshow with 80 people in skeleton illusion

[Crazycloud]

I would hope so guido... Fully geared VP geared chars vs rags pre 60.

Pretty sure most of them are 1 shotable :D

[Doors]

Was an even fight 30v30.

[quido]

Naww you guys each had 25 buffs I know it and we were all wearing Earrings of Sad Exploitation (-99 to everything). It's like an Harrison Bergeron-esque handicap to keep things interesting.

[Colgate]

harrison bergeron was p goog

haven't read any of his other work, got a ton of friends who love him though

[quido]

http://www.msu.edu/~oconne53/crazyshelly.jpg

[Tacitus]

Naww you guys each had 25 buffs I know it and we were all wearing Earrings of Sad Exploitation (-99 to everything). It's like an Harrison Bergeron-esque handicap to keep things interesting.

We need to end the violence and play pickle ball

[quido]

I'm playing today at 10am

[Mac Drettj]

i recorded the whole thing, one person was suspended for gathering up 4-5 mobs and heading back towards the fight. i decided to step in and neutralize that before it ruined the pvp.

rofl

[Mac Drettj]

was a close fight, real chaotic shitshow with 80 people in skeleton illusion

[Crazycloud]

interdestin

[runlvlzero]

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nice

[iiNGloriouS]

Wish I was there. Fuuuck.

[Not Salem]

Redd makes a big play avoiding the fight and finding a cozy corner to FD and /q in eat's a DT and ban, yikes

[Smedy]

Redd makes a big play avoiding the fight and finding a cozy corner to FD and /q in eat's a DT and ban, yikes

O_o

being a feign death class has never been more dangerous

[Burgerking]

i recorded the whole thing, one person was suspended for gathering up 4-5 mobs and heading back towards the fight. i decided to step in and neutralize that before it ruined the pvp.

ill post the link after its uploaded, that said, it was a good fight. and no one got suspended for repop aggro, contrary to what most of you believe, not a dumdum.

I saw it some of the mobs got dumped on me, I can see why Colgate thought it was unintentional because the last large PvP encounters Azrael trained so blatantly and obviously.

That one was a sneaky little train, that could have easily been missed through the chaos. So gratz to Sirken for having such a keen eye. Redd's train(I know you are a pro Sirken and won't name and shame but I'm just a player so fuck that guy) did force me to gate or otherwise i would have been able to stay the entire fight.

[Burgerking]

Redd makes a big play avoiding the fight and finding a cozy corner to FD and /q in eat's a DT and ban, yikes

Utter complete BS Redd was on me at the start of the fight, and chased me for a few then he went and intentionally pulled a train and dumped it on me.

[Not Salem]

what were you doing in the small pool next to the room trak shrooms people to

[Burgerking]

what were you doing in the small pool next to the room trak shrooms people to

You and Redd jumped on me first, I shook you and malo'd you, I shook redd and lost him then Redd came back after the fight was nearly over and dumped a train on me.

[derpcake]

i recorded the whole thing, one person was suspended for gathering up 4-5 mobs and heading back towards the fight. i decided to step in and neutralize that before it ruined the pvp.

Nice, plz set example.

It only takes 1 shitbag like that to ruin it for everyone. Do not want.

[Concave]

[QUOTE=iiNGloriouS;1655293]Wish I was there. Fuuuck.[/QUOTE[

[Genedin]

Can we see said video?

I saw red chasing some people around, get aggro and flop it as per the game mechanic for his class. Would love to be proved he was actively trying to train and ruin the raid and didn't just catch aggro.....

[Concave]

He posted it Red99 general. Mins 25-27 or so.

You see a handful of shrooms rush into the PvP; Sirken follows them and despawns them one-by-one. Looks like he checks their aggro and gets Redd, then GM-flies to where Redd is, sees him getting more shrooms, DTs him.

[Sektor]

Denz was dumb for making stupid occ comments about GMs, he should know better and hopefully next time he logs on he'll not talk badly about the GMs.

The video on Redd to me is hard to tell if he was doing what Salem said or he was trying to train the raid. Redd is a good guy so it's hard to believe his intentions were bad.

[Andis]

pretty impressed here

colgate being somewhat honorable by making this post

we are growing up I see 8)

[Genedin]

Yea I posted before reading.

What doesn't make sense is why would Redd train his own guild? There is no way to control who the mushrooms are going to attack once you flop them in a mass pvp that has already started.

Sorry I still don't believe he was purposefully training it just wouldn't make sense.

Could be wrong though.

[Kergan]

The only reason it was a clean fight is because Sirken despawned mobs and derailed the second train attempt.

Permaban that fucker.

[Concave]

I think there are a few plausible motivations:

A) Holo has more lowbies; they die a lot more easily to trains.
B) Holo had twice Az's numbers, so modulo a few assumptions the train was more likely to hit Holo than Az, most of the time.
C) Someone from Az called the fight 'obvious suicide' given the numbers on both sides; maybe Redd felt like the best way to take a chunk out've Holo was to force an ugly CR and/or wipe everyone and re-engage with C.R. gear / Azrael alts, while most of Holo'd be left naked.

The video's not incontrovertible evidence IMO but it is pretty persuasive. Hard to imagine how he collected more shrooms right after the first set that were on him hit everyone if he wasn't actively collecting them and dropping them on the fight.

[Kergan]

Naw dude, it's normal for a monk at 80% health to try and get as far out of melee range as possible in a mass PVP fight.

Totally legit non train attempt there.

[Genedin]

When I get pell trained on Mordeath I run as far out of meele range as possible.

[Swyft]

Denz was dumb for making stupid occ comments about GMs, he should know better and hopefully next time he logs on he'll not talk badly about the GMs.

The video on Redd to me is hard to tell if he was doing what Salem said or he was trying to train the raid. Redd is a good guy so it's hard to believe his intentions were bad.

The worse thing you could ever do to a friend is endorse them, you simply saying they are a good guy means they are most likely a giant scumbag.

But you should just keep RMT'ing and kissing the GM's asses, it worked out so well for you last time.

God I can't wait till you are permabanned IRL that way I don't have to fear for 11 year old boys getting touched.

[Pokeman]

I think there are a few plausible motivations:

A) Holo has more lowbies; they die a lot more easily to trains.
B) Holo had twice Az's numbers, so modulo a few assumptions the train was more likely to hit Holo than Az, most of the time.
C) Someone from Az called the fight 'obvious suicide' given the numbers on both sides; maybe Redd felt like the best way to take a chunk out've Holo was to force an ugly CR and/or wipe everyone and re-engage with C.R. gear / Azrael alts, while most of Holo'd be left naked.

The video's not incontrovertible evidence IMO but it is pretty persuasive. Hard to imagine how he collected more shrooms right after the first set that were on him hit everyone if he wasn't actively collecting them and dropping them on the fight.

ur a nerd with reel thick glasses

[Quiet]

Andis moves up 2 more slots for AoN. Aw yiss.

[Concave]

ur a nerd with reel thick glasses

this is true

[Nirgon]

Train aside

The amount of hate/threats was at an all time low so I'm glad to see it

[Bazia]

Who the hell is Redd anyways

[Gnomegrown]

i recorded the whole thing, one person was suspended for gathering up 4-5 mobs and heading back towards the fight. i decided to step in and neutralize that before it ruined the pvp.

ill post the link after its uploaded, that said, it was a good fight. and no one got suspended for repop aggro, contrary to what most of you believe, not a dumdum.

maybe you should perma ban instead of suspend, if you don't send clear messages here the babies don't learn

I swear its impossible for them to have a pvp battle without mobs

[Burgerking]

I'm not saying he did run into trak, I'm saying it could have happened. I still see no evidence that Redd did anything wrong. I see no evidence than anyone in particular did anything wrong. For all we know, Holocaust pulled the train and FD'd it onto Redd. It's not hard to clear an agro list.

So your story is he came in by Shrooms and somehow in the middle of pvp ended up over by Trak AND it was an accident. But the best part of this fabulous story is he didn't notice he had argo until he had already run the mobs past other people.

He just didn't notice those 5 mobs hitting him and decided he wanted to wait to feign death because why FD alone when you could wait till your next to another player, NOT TO TRAIN THEM but just to have someone nearby to chat with. I love story time.

[Sirken]

So your story is he came in by Shrooms and somehow in the middle of pvp ended up over by Trak AND it was an accident. But the best part of this fabulous story is he didn't notice he had argo until he had already run the mobs past other people.

He just didn't notice those 5 mobs hitting him and decided he wanted to wait to feign death because why FD alone when you could wait till your next to another player, NOT TO TRAIN THEM but just to have someone nearby to chat with. I love story time.

http://static.fjcdn.com/gifs/Scary_43da20_712538.gif

[Burgerking]

http://static.fjcdn.com/gifs/Scary_43da20_712538.gif

LMFAO!

[Jib]

awww burgerking got some attention

[Stalos_]

Free my monks

[kotton05]

What did Denz do? I see that redd had shrooms inc... But...

[Burgerking]

awww burgerking got some attention

you sound jelly

[Concave]

What did Denz do? I see that redd had shrooms inc... But...

Some people earlier in the thread were saying he got DT'd for talking shit to the GMs.

[Jib]

you sound jelly

quite the contrary my good lad, I spent most my time lurking in the shadows, trying not to be seen

[kotton05]

Some people earlier in the thread were saying he got DT'd for talking shit to the GMs.

Smh that's not a good practice lol

[Burgerking]

quite the contrary my good lad, I spent most my time lurking in the shadows, trying not to be seen

IDK man talking about lads and lurking in the shadows comes off abit creepy.

[Jib]

IDK man talking about lads and lurking in the shadows comes off abit creepy.

nay good sir tis nothing but mere conversation. I bid you good day.

[Kergan]

Not sure if Jib is on one of his manic or depressive swings atm.