Ok. Don't kid yourselves anymore about Ebola.

[Sidelle]

If a nurse from Dallas is infected from Ebola after taking care of Duncan Thomas, we could be in for it.

These people wear gowns, full masks (covering eyes, nose and mouth), gloves.. everything they need really.

And this isn't gonna be a problem...

Wtf happened here?

[Sidelle]

Forgot to link story. http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/12/health/ebola/index.html

[Oleris]

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/2inzdk/i_touched_my_face_with_gloves_nurse_with_ebola/cl3zaxt

[sox7d]

what else should i be scared of

[Tongpow]

panic because one dumb bitch couldn't take her protective gear off correctly?

nah

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

ill just pray, of course.. over in africa its just like back in jesus's time.. they really have it swell.. dirt and all

truly blessed land

Might take the combined efforts of the forum community to unpack exactly what the hell is going on in this statement. Request thread be moved to RnF.

[Pokesan]

prepare for thunderdome

[quido]

http://www.thelmagazine.com/binary/ae07/1368541368-outbreak-dustin-hoffman.jpg

[thrump]

Says protocol was broken. She either didn't put on all her PPE or did not take it off in the right order -- or touched her face with gloves or whatnot.

[Sidelle]

So are you missing part of the point I was making? Even medically trained and properly suited up professionals are able to become infected while they're supposed to be containing this shit. What about the untrained ignorant every day idiots? Even just one could be devastating. And there is bound to be at keast one.

And with a huge incubation period too...

[Zadrian]

wish sidelle wud get ebola.

a-bowla wut? Hyuk hyuk

abowlagravy

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/jROFn-zOsIs/hqdefault.jpg

[Pokesan]

What about the ignorant every day idiots? Even just one could be devastating. And there is bound to be at keast one.



it's you, you're gonna cause the ebolas

[Lune]

God damn women always so fucking nervous about everything.

If you want to be scared, be scared of the fact that European culture is being destroyed by immigrants both in Europe and NA. And that our politics and economic system are so corrupt, and our electorate so ignorant and apathetic, that we're basically descending into neo-feudalism. Seriously, your grandkids are going to be peasants basically.

Also, humanity might figure out clinical immortality some day, and you lived and died before that happened. There literally might be humans some day that live for millions of years, but not you. You're going to cease to exist.

Oh yea and your cognitive ability is probably being slightly diminished by infection with toxoplasmosis and/or latent viral myalgic encephalomyelitis.

[runlvlzero]

I'm sure the CIA kiddnapped her and injected her with LSD and Ebola at the same time in the middle of the night. Unless you're prone to being kidnapped easily by the CIA I don't think we have anything to worry about from these false flag ebola events that are probably going to be about as prevalent as the rare trichinosis (brain worms yay) or (those pesky random wierd ameoba/plasmids from ponds) cases.

And yes I know your a medical professional. So you probably won't believe me.

Problem is, really can't do anything about it or our dumb government. But staying at home and playing EQ and only eating smoked meats from 10 yrs ago is probably going to keep you pretty safe.

Stay healthy, happy, and free, you're less likely to get pigeonhold into getting it from sewer water.

Also, was she a black women? Cause that would be a nail in the coffin for this being a troll on 'murica.

[runlvlzero]

Says protocol was broken. She either didn't put on all her PPE or did not take it off in the right order -- or touched her face with gloves or whatnot.

yep that too

[Sidelle]

a-bowla wut? Hyuk hyuk

abowlagravy

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/jROFn-zOsIs/hqdefault.jpg

Wtf? Is that littlegyno irl? Ban for rl pic pls.

[Sidelle]

God damn women always so fucking nervous about everything.

If you want to be scared, be scared of the fact that European culture is being destroyed by immigrants both in Europe and NA. And that our politics and economic system are so corrupt, and our electorate so ignorant and apathetic, that we're basically descending into neo-feudalism. Seriously, your grandkids are going to be peasants basically.

Also, humanity might figure out clinical immortality some day, and you lived and died before that happened. There literally might be humans some day that live for millions of years, but not you. You're going to cease to exist.

Oh yea and your cognitive ability is probably being slightly diminished by infection with toxoplasmosis and/or latent viral myalgic encephalomyelitis.
I read the first line then stopped because misogynistic pricks never say anything else that's interesting anyway.

Not to mention the times I really tried reading your other posts without rolling my eyes.

[Bazia]

how about ppl flying 2 africa cant fly back

1 way ticket at this point imo

[Pokesan]

ebola isn't all that infectious and you should stop worrying about it before you get brain fever sidelle

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

So are you missing part of the point I was making? Even medically trained and properly suited up professionals are able to become infected while they're supposed to be containing this shit. What about the untrained ignorant every day idiots? Even just one could be devastating. And there is bound to be at keast one.

And with a huge incubation period too...

I live in the north and the nurses here are fucking retards, you are surprised about some Texan fucking up? Get a grip on reality.

[Sirken]

/target Ebola
/duel

[Smedy]

ebola reached dallas because of all the hypocrit christian people praising jesus while in their private time googling for underage teen sex videos, jesus never allowed this, jesus will have his vengeance

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--QdJ0pHgM--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/18haxfkq59n6tpng.jpg

[myriverse]

If a nurse from Dallas is infected from Ebola after taking care of Duncan Thomas, we could be in for it.
Utter nonsense.

[SamwiseRed]

http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/54904756.jpg

[Orruar]

Based on all knowledge I have gained about nurses via the internet, it doesn't surprise me in the least that one of them caring for the Ebola patient got it too. I mean, all that dick sucking has to be high risk.

[myriverse]

Seriously, I'd be more concerned if it were not a healthcare worker. I was expecting this, and I wouldn't be surprised if she were not the only one.

[Nuggie]

Heard it on the Rush Limbaugh show that the nurses aren't being given proper training. Hard to keep yourself safe if you don't know what not to do. You don't know what you don't know.

[thrump]

I'm more concerned that a BSN educated nurse is now ill, because I know she has been educated regarding precautions at a significantly higher level than the nursing assistant in Spain must have been. I wonder if we'll find out what the specific break in protocol was, or if it is unknown.

It seems like exposure likely occurred while removing the PPE. Nurses are taught in which order to remove these items, but its still a very dangerous point in time from an exposure standpoint.

It does seem as if nurses are stating they do not feel as if there is enough being discussed within their hospitals. I hope that differs in the ER dept. In a med-surg dept we haven't gotten much past "we have a plan" and basic discussion on which types of precautions would be followed.

I keep reading in various links about BSL levels and how Ebola is BSL-4, suits, tape, omg, etc. This isn't all that applicable from a direct health care perspective, its a microbiology classification. Ebola is level 4 because it is lethal and exotic and can be aerosolized, with no treatment or vaccine. Yes, this means there are few labs suited to handle the virus and the precautions are lengthy. This doesn't mean the same setup microbiologists use when studying Ebola in the lab are necessary in a patient care scenario -- that's where routes of transmission come in. Reading a lot of freaking out over wrist tape between gowns and gloves, etc. Two different scenarios.

[Thalf]

I lean towards the infection coming from a training deficiency and that being not well versed in removal of potentially contaminated suits.

If I can remove an anti-contamination suit with a rifle and sidearm and do so without once getting the potentially radioactive contaminated suit outside of the rad-con area, how can a nurse not properly remove her PPE? Hell, our military personnel can do this with combat load when dealing with their CBR suits. Training deficiency; nothing more and nothing less. That was the protocol that was broken; improper removal of PPE.

Stop fear mongering; next up, ISIS will be performing at a mall near you. SMH

[runlvlzero]

They called me crazy when I made this picture. (the voices in my head)

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Way to infect Norrath with Ebola, at least it will wipe out the Tier'dal first.

[Knuckle]

So are you missing part of the point I was making? Even medically trained and properly suited up professionals are able to become infected while they're supposed to be containing this shit. What about the untrained ignorant every day idiots? Even just one could be devastating. And there is bound to be at keast one.

And with a huge incubation period too...

Complaining about it on internet forums doesn't change that it may or may not happen. Yes a huge infection outbreak could occur, bubonic plague and other diseases through history have caused massive death and infection. Scarlet fever, yellow fever, etc.

They either come up with a cure or vaccine for it, or you have a chance to get infected. It's really that simple, and if ebola can be transferred via animals/plants/insects/water, it'll spread one way or another.

So what is the point you are trying to make? That people should be scared? If so what does that solve?

[myriverse]

So are you missing part of the point I was making? Even medically trained and properly suited up professionals are able to become infected while they're supposed to be containing this shit. What about the untrained ignorant every day idiots? Even just one could be devastating. And there is bound to be at keast one.

And with a huge incubation period too...
She was in the trenches. The average ignorant everyday idiot is not. Ebola isn't easy to catch/spread. And so far, not one average ignorant everyday idiot Murican (redundant?) has contracted it.

[FoxxHound]

http://i.imgur.com/M1h7sxJ.jpg?1

[Ennewi]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCOMeI8Zq_c

[Fame]

If shit goes down sid, head north, I will protect you and give you meat. :D

[LulzSect]

http://i.imgur.com/Fa19eON.jpg

[katrik]

http://i.imgur.com/Fa19eON.jpg

This is how I wanna die. With a burger in my belly.

[Sidelle]

Well shit guys. Maybe you're right. It probably won't be a problem here. I'm so relieved, especially now that the CDC guy in charge removed the sick nurse in Texas from under the bus she was tossed under when it became known that it was their fault that it spread.

He admits now they screwed up in adequately preparing US medical personnel by having their stupid "site managers" doing useless shit like posting fucking FLYERS on bulletin boards (hi nurses, pls visit our website for infoz on protecting yourselves) instead of having the appropriate CDC people providing training and implementing a halfway decent plan in case people get sick here.

My favorite thing (before the nurse was diagnosed) was when that guy in charge said that any American hospital can handle Ebola patients. Lol that was fucking priceless! I really hope the thousands of our troops going over to Africa to help are better prepared for what they're gonna face there, because this lame-ass shit isn't gonna cut it.

I'm sure I'm not the only one with valid concerns about the people who are supposed to be in charge being complete retards.

[Sidelle]

If shit goes down sid, head north, I will protect you and give you meat. :D
LOL! :)

[Sidelle]

Complaining about it on internet forums doesn't change that it may or may not happen. Yes a huge infection outbreak could occur, bubonic plague and other diseases through history have caused massive death and infection. Scarlet fever, yellow fever, etc.

They either come up with a cure or vaccine for it, or you have a chance to get infected. It's really that simple, and if ebola can be transferred via animals/plants/insects/water, it'll spread one way or another.

So what is the point you are trying to make? That people should be scared? If so what does that solve?
No. Not trying to scare people. I think we need to be better informed about it though. It has an unusually high mortality rate and is extremely infectious, can live for days outside the body, etc.. Plus the whole "no cure" thing. Just because we don't live in the third world, or work in a hospital in direct contact with Ebola patients doesn't mean we should just blow it off like it's not a problem.

Ok. Tired of arguing about it. People don't like my opinion its completely fine with me. Nothing wrong with talking about it whether it's here on a stupid gaming forum or with others out in the world. If I'm saying anything here that isn't true I'd love to hear about it.

[runlvlzero]

Well shit guys. Maybe you're right. It probably won't be a problem here. I'm so relieved, especially now that the CDC guy in charge removed the sick nurse in Texas from under the bus she was tossed under when it became known that it was their fault that it spread.

He admits now they screwed up in adequately preparing US medical personnel by having their stupid "site managers" doing useless shit like posting fucking FLYERS on bulletin boards (hi nurses, pls visit our website for infoz on protecting yourselves) instead of having the appropriate CDC people providing training and implementing a halfway decent plan in case people get sick here.

My favorite thing (before the nurse was diagnosed) was when that guy in charge said that any American hospital can handle Ebola patients. Lol that was fucking priceless! I really hope the thousands of our troops going over to Africa to help are better prepared for what they're gonna face there, because this lame-ass shit isn't gonna cut it.

I'm sure I'm not the only one with valid concerns about the people who are supposed to be in charge being complete retards.

'murica (tm) it's ok, these people all have the freedom and karma to do what they want.

[MrSparkle001]

The more I learn about ebola the more I'm convinced the plague of the middle ages was really an ebola-like virus and not a flea-carried bacteria. That's actually really scary.

[Swish]

http://luxeterna.smugmug.com/Ooh-scary/i-K767QX2/0/O/ebola.gif

[Tann]

http://www.inquisitr.com/1541821/ebola-is-airborne-university-of-minnesota-cidrap-researchers-claim/

Dustin Hoffman called it

[Fame]

LOL! :)

http://www.quickmeme.com/img/49/49ded2238ba4eaaca94bf22f509c13db3e7699d8a1934664cd 942a491650b05f.jpg

[Pokesan]

my news sources say ebola is a false flag for starting the fema death camps

[Ahldagor]

http://www.emlab.com/m/store/028-3475-00_Lg.jpg

[Barnes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrjPZHK5U3g

[Sidelle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrjPZHK5U3g
Interesting video. Rabies + Ebola = Ebola vaccine? Never heard the particulars of this before so I decided to look into it myself because it was a bit tin-foily. Came across an article that explains further what's in that new Canadian Ebola vaccine they're testing on Americans now. Seems kinda similar to what the guy in the video was talking about. :eek: http://www.ctvnews.ca/health/canada-s-ebola-vaccine-how-does-it-work-1.1959082
How does the vaccine work?
Last August, Dr. Gary Kobinger, chief of special pathogens at The Public Health Agency of Canada shared details about how the vaccine works.
He said the vaccine can be administered before exposure to the Ebola virus, and in animal models it has also shown efficacy after exposure.
"It can have action on both sides, a little bit like the rabies vaccine," he said.
The vaccine does not contain any live Ebola virus, and is instead made up of dead parts of the virus, combined with another virus typically found in animals.

Anyway, possible zombie apocalypse incoming. It's time to:

http://media.giphy.com/media/i5Pdkk1TZec4o/giphy.gif

http://media.giphy.com/media/LZlwYWkMfj5n2/giphy.gif

:D

[myriverse]

The more I learn about ebola the more I'm convinced the plague of the middle ages was really an ebola-like virus and not a flea-carried bacteria. That's actually really scary.
Rriiiight... because we've just been wrong all of this time. Never mind that the Plague still exists and we know how to defeat it now, easily.

You clearly haven't learned a single damned thing about ebola.

[MrSparkle001]

Rriiiight... because we've just been wrong all of this time. Never mind that the Plague still exists and we know how to defeat it now, easily.

You clearly haven't learned a single damned thing about ebola.

Keep saying that, as if we know for a fact what the black death was. Hint: we don't.

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=117310

That's the first link I found googling just now.

[Sidelle]

Keep saying that, as if we know for a fact what the black death was. Hint: we don't.

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=117310

That's the first link I found googling just now.
I had never heard about this Ebola/Black Death theory before so I'm glad you posted this.

Being a bit of a documentary junkie + science and history nerd, a few years ago I remember watching an interesting program about the Black Death. Scientists were studying a small village somewhere in England (iirc) where there seemed to be a fairly high population of people who were naturally immune to HIV/AIDS. I think this is when they first discovered the mutated CCR5 gene that's HIV/AIDS resistant. Very interesting indeed that they can date its first mutation to 650 years ago, coinciding with the first appearance of the Black Death in Europe.

When you add that to the description of what happened to the organs (and other symptoms) of the victims, plus the information about transmission and quarantine, it really seems possible that it wasn't Bubonic Plague (bacterial) at all that they were dealing with back then, but Ebola (virus).

I wish I could remember if they even mentioned Ebola in that film... Anyway, it's a facinating theory that would force a change in history books if they end up proving it.

http://www.rense.com/general12/bub.htm (just a bit of info about quarantines back in those days, and further support for the article you posted)
Professor Duncan said people soon learnt that the only effective way of dealing with the Black Death was to put affected families and even entire villages into quarantine for 40 days. "A quarantine period was first instituted in the city states of northern Italy in the late 14th century and this was gradually adopted throughout Europe and maintained for the next 300 years until the plague disappeared," professors Duncan and Scott say in their book Biology of Plagues.

A quarantine would not have been effective if the disease was spread by rat fleas," said Professor Duncan. "Rats don't respect quarantines. This disease was transmitted directly from person to person which suggests an infectious virus."

Bubonic plagues spread in a complex fashion because they rely on the interaction of fleas, rats and people. Yet the pattern of spread of the Black Death was relatively simple and predictable, indicating person-to-person transmission.

"Endemic bubonic plague is essentially a rural disease because it is an infection of rodents," the book says. "The Black Death, in contrast, struck indiscriminately in the countryside and towns."

The symptoms of the Black Death point to a haemorrhagic fever caused by an Ebola-like virus. The fever struck suddenly, it caused aching and bleeding from internal organs, as well as red blotches caused by the effusion of blood under the skin ñ classic symptoms of Ebola-like illnesses.
People forget sometimes that when it comes to science nothing is written in stone. You never know when evidence will be discovered that turns everything upside-down. Keeping an open mind about things is essential.

The world was flat once, right? :)

[MrSparkle001]

I first thought about it the other day after reading about it's symptoms and how it kills people. "What if the black death was ebola?" Guess I'm not the only one who thought that.

Nobody knows for sure. We only have medieval descriptions to go by, and at the time it was thought to be the plague I'm guessing nobody knew something like ebola existed.

[Greegon]

black death's trademark was the presence of bubos (sp) and blackened fingers etc.. not leaking blood out of your mouth/nose/eyes/ears/nipples/ass

[Abner]

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/10/16/you-have-to-see-self-described-germaphobe-dana-loesch-flip-over-the-latest-ebola-news/

This

You Have to See Self-Described Germaphobe Dana Loesch Flip Over the Latest Ebola News

[lawll]

black death's trademark was the presence of bubos (sp) and blackened fingers etc.. not leaking blood out of your mouth/nose/eyes/ears/nipples/ass

And was stated multiple times in history that the infamous sigh of black death was swollen lymph glands. I think MrSparkle001 is crazy IRL.

[Orruar]

I first thought about it the other day after reading about it's symptoms and how it kills people. "What if the black death was ebola?" Guess I'm not the only one who thought that.

Nobody knows for sure. We only have medieval descriptions to go by, and at the time it was thought to be the plague I'm guessing nobody knew something like ebola existed.

The symptoms don't match up at all beyond the vomiting/diarrhea/bleeding, which also match up with the symptoms of several hundred other diseases. The blackening of the extremities due to gangrene (where the black death got its name, duh) is not seen in ebola. The first and most obvious symptom involving what they called "tumours in the groin or armpits" is not seen in ebola. Are you one of those people who only have a passing interest in something, come up with some random unsupported hypothesis, and then believe that to be the truth in contradiction to pretty much every expert that has spent their lives working in that field? Sheer lunacy.

[citizen1080]

my news sources say ebola is a false flag for starting the fema death camps

is your news source stormfront?

[MrSparkle001]

The symptoms don't match up at all beyond the vomiting/diarrhea/bleeding, which also match up with the symptoms of several hundred other diseases. The blackening of the extremities due to gangrene (where the black death got its name, duh) is not seen in ebola. The first and most obvious symptom involving what they called "tumours in the groin or armpits" is not seen in ebola. Are you one of those people who only have a passing interest in something, come up with some random unsupported hypothesis, and then believe that to be the truth in contradiction to pretty much every expert that has spent their lives working in that field? Sheer lunacy.

You didn't read my link.

Medieval descriptions of the Black Death sound like the hemorrhagic fever caused by an Ebola-like virus, the authors say. Such fever strikes fast and causes blood vessels to burst underneath the skin, bringing out welts, similar to what British medical texts from the Middle Ages describe as "God's tokens."

The liquidization of internal organs that causes excruciating pain in Ebola victims matches the descriptions of historical autopsies on plague victims, which similarly describe internal organs being dissolved along with the appearance of a black liquid, according to the authors.

It's from this book: http://www.amazon.com/Return-Black-Death-Worlds-Greatest/dp/0470090006 which I haven't read, only found from googling.

You also realize they don't say "it was ebola" and that there were multiple periods of plague which could have been different diseases right?

I'll give some more links for you not to read:

http://www.rense.com/general12/bub.htm

http://www.livescience.com/15937-black-death-plague-debate.html

Strange to think that scientists are challenging long-held beliefs huh? That never happens.

[Sidelle]

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/10/16/you-have-to-see-self-described-germaphobe-dana-loesch-flip-over-the-latest-ebola-news/

This

You Have to See Self-Described Germaphobe Dana Loesch Flip Over the Latest Ebola News
"OMG they're touching things with their Ebola hands! THEY'RE TOUCHING MY THINGS!!" (She didn't really say exactly those words verbatim but it's basically what I heard.)

Yeah, this video cracked me up a little. Obviously from my posts I've been concerned that Ebola might spread, but this lady is going a bit overboard.

But in her defense, the people who are supposed to be the experts in dealing with this type of shit failed miserably in every way. That is the reason so many people are freaking out now. We needed strong and knowledgeable leadership but instead they bullshitted us so much that all credibility is just gone. We needed someone in charge who knows what they're doing, not some asshole who came out immediately throwing sick (and now possibly dying) nurses under the bus instead of taking responsibility for failing to implement the correct measures to protect against the disease spreading.

[Sidelle]

my news sources say ebola is a false flag for starting the fema death camps
What color is the sticker on your mailbox? :cool:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fi3uNRBeKAo

[Hailto]

Lol, all these people so paranoid about big government phone tapping them, reading their emails etc, yet they think they would need to resort to putting a plastic sticker on their mailbox to ID who goes to the FEMA camps.

[Raok]

You didn't read my link.



It's from this book: http://www.amazon.com/Return-Black-Death-Worlds-Greatest/dp/0470090006 which I haven't read, only found from googling.

You also realize they don't say "it was ebola" and that there were multiple periods of plague which could have been different diseases right?

I'll give some more links for you not to read:

http://www.rense.com/general12/bub.htm

http://www.livescience.com/15937-black-death-plague-debate.html

Strange to think that scientists are challenging long-held beliefs huh? That never happens.

Are you one of those people who only have a passing interest in something, come up with some random unsupported hypothesis, and then believe that to be the truth in contradiction to pretty much every expert that has spent their lives working in that field? Sheer lunacy.

Your question is answered.

[Orruar]

You didn't read my link.



It's from this book: http://www.amazon.com/Return-Black-Death-Worlds-Greatest/dp/0470090006 which I haven't read, only found from googling.

You also realize they don't say "it was ebola" and that there were multiple periods of plague which could have been different diseases right?

I'll give some more links for you not to read:

http://www.rense.com/general12/bub.htm

http://www.livescience.com/15937-black-death-plague-debate.html

Strange to think that scientists are challenging long-held beliefs huh? That never happens.

And yet the two most indicative symptoms (tumors/welts in the inner thigh/armpits, gangrene in extremities) of the black death are not present at all in ebola cases. But keep on trying to hammer that round peg into that square hole because it sounds like a cool idea. That's clearly how science works.

[Clark]

"In short, ebola is unlikely to become the new bubonic plague." That's how I've felt about it as well.

I will say though for those in Africa it's pretty awful. We're fortunate to have all we do in prevention and healthcare institutes.

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

http://puu.sh/chwKA/373d4478a6.png

You're welcome. Because science.

DDDDUUUUUUHHHHHH people be stupid yo.

[stormlord]

If one is going to be frightened of Ebola they should already be frightened by a myraid of issues in the world. There're so many things we can die from. Admittedly, it's far worse in developing countries, but the shadow of death hangs over us all. One wonders how developing nations survive, considering developed nations suffer too.

Leading causes of death in the US:
1 Heat Attack
2 Cancer
3 Chronic lower respiratory diseases
4 Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases)
5 Accidents (unintentional injuries)
6 Alzheimer's disease
7 Diabetes
8 Influenza and Pneumonia
9 Kidney disease: Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis
10 Intentional self-harm (suicide): ~40,000 deaths

* The top 10 causes account for ~75% of all deaths
* The top 3 causes account for over 50% of all deaths

The difference between developed countries and developing is stark. For example, 30,000 people in India die per year from Rabies. Rabies is a ~100% fatal viral infection if not vaccinated against before it enters the nervous system and can incubate for many years there. In the US, by comparison, only a couple people die per year on average. And yet Rabies is almost never detected in the sufferer until the final stages of the infection. This is a combination of the sufferer being unaware and the high cost and time involved detecting it in its incubation stage. Hence, Rabies also tends to spread via organ donations in developed countries. Human to human infection by other means is not yet documented.

Much of the high death toll due to Rabies in India is related to them not vaccinating enough animals. And the comparably higher cost of a human vaccination means vaccinating the animals is the best option.

Btw, thousands of animals per year are killed in the US because of suspect Rabies infection. Bats, by far, are probably the greatest Rabies' host. Thankfully, I think most don't come out during the day.

In any case, OP, you're right. If trained professionals in protective gear are failing, average civilians will almost surely fail hard. That doesn't mean Ebola is a serious threat to life in the US, but it might be if it spreads. Yet think for a moment: If it ever becomes bad in the US, it'll be living hell for developing countries.

I hope they make a vaccine. Developing nations need a lot of help. God, I could barely read a story in National Geographic about the Aids/genocide crisis in Africa in the 1980's. Those people went through hell.

[Sidelle]

In any case, OP, you're right. If trained professionals in protective gear are failing, average civilians will almost surely fail hard. That doesn't mean Ebola is a serious threat to life in the US, but it might be if it spreads. Yet think for a moment: If it ever becomes bad in the US, it'll be living hell for developing countries.

I hope they make a vaccine. Developing nations need a lot of help. God, I could barely read a story in National Geographic about the Aids/genocide crisis in Africa in the 1980's. Those people went through hell.
You're probably correct about Ebola not being a huge threat but I just wish that those in charge, like the CDC, would do their goddamned jobs and act to protect us by providing the correct training to healthcare providers, at the very fucking least. It really makes me concerned about sending troops to Africa who aren't properly trained. They're gonna be handling fluids, etc. This whole EbolaCare thing has shown us (the people) that we as a country are not prepared for a pandemic, nor are we being protected from anything because of bullshit reasons, i.e. political correctness being concern #1.

An example: I was watching the news a few days ago and they had this woman on, talking shit that we (the US) want to close incoming flights from infected areas because we're fucking racist. That sort of bullshit is what's gonna give the republicans the senate in a couple weeks. Fucking idiots. They should know people are sick and tired of the race card being played for literally everything.

Lol. Poor Obama. Even black people are starting to hate his ass. And can you even believe the person with no medical experience he appointed to be the new Ebola czar? Haha!! Worst president ever. Good legacy there, Barry. Maybe Michelle should be president, even though she always looking like she's chewing her own face, the ugly bitch with the nasty-ass school lunches. http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/04/05/students-fed-up-with-michelle-obamas-school-lunch-overhaul-menu-item-snapshots-spell-out-why/

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[JPMorgan]

Lol. Poor Obama. Even black people are starting to hate his ass. And can you even believe the person with no medical experience he appointed to be the new Ebola czar? Haha!! Worst president ever. Good legacy there, Barry. Maybe Michelle should be president, even though she always looking like she's chewing her own face, the ugly bitch with the nasty-ass school lunches. http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/04/05/students-fed-up-with-michelle-obamas-school-lunch-overhaul-menu-item-snapshots-spell-out-why/

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The whole reason Obama had to appoint an Ebola Czar is because idiot republicans blocked the man he appointed to be the Surgeon General. The reason?

He's pro-gun control.

[Sidelle]

The whole reason Obama had to appoint an Ebola Czar is because idiot republicans blocked the man he appointed to be the Surgeon General. The reason?

He's pro-gun control.
http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2014/10/20/vivek-murthy-waiting-more-than-year-for-vote-surgeon-general-post-ebola-fear-spreads/cp6NywELYMjr2naV7RCdyL/story.html

Republicans, however, noted that Democrats who control the Senate could have confirmed Murthy without any help from Republicans under rule changes enacted last year that allow confirmation with a simple majority.

Senate majority leader Harry Reid has declined to put the nomination up for a vote, with a leadership aide telling the Globe in March that there was uncertainty over whether some Democrats would support it. The White House said at the time that it was readjusting its strategy after a nomination for another high-level post failed. (A White House spokesman, asked to comment on the nomination, responded by e-mail that the surgeon general plays “an important role in the education of Americans on public health issues.”)

“Senator Reid has not yet tried to bring up the nomination, due, no doubt, to the bipartisan opposition,” Don Stewart, spokesman for minority leader Mitch McConnell, said in an e-mail.
So what happened here? Why did the senate (democrats) not want this guy?

[Orruar]

You're probably correct about Ebola not being a huge threat but I just wish that those in charge, like the CDC, would do their goddamned jobs and act to protect us by providing the correct training to healthcare providers, at the very fucking least. It really makes me concerned about sending troops to Africa who aren't properly trained. They're gonna be handling fluids, etc. This whole EbolaCare thing has shown us (the people) that we as a country are not prepared for a pandemic, nor are we being protected from anything because of bullshit reasons, i.e. political correctness being concern #1.

You want them to spend valuable time training every healthcare worker in the country to deal with a disease that has so far affected 3 people here? You do realize there are hundreds, if not thousands, of diseases/conditions that affect more people than that and we can't train them on everything? You start with the big stuff. If an Ebola outbreak hits, you can bet there will be more training. Until then, it's not worth it. There are roughly 3 million nurses in America. If we spent 20 hours each to properly train them, that's 60 million man hours of training. That's somewhere north of $1B for training. Assuming this training led to a 100% success rate in preventing the spread of the disease, it would mean thus far a reduction of 2 cases of Ebola. Or you could spend that money on other shit and save thousands of lives.

Also, what evidence do you have that the troops going to Africa aren't being properly trained? My brother is trying to join a program that sends nurses over to Liberia and part of it is a 2 week training program at the CDC HQ. And part of the reason they have this program is so that those who gain experience are spread around the country so that they can train others if the need arises.

[Raev]

So just because only 3 people have been infected does not mean that countermeasures are completely worthless.

I do not know how contagious Ebola really is: I've seen differing opinions and I am not going to read the journals to figure out who is lying. But it seems likely that an outbreak that could kill thousands of people is possible, though extremely unlikely, and we EverQuesters all know that eventually the RNG will decide to fuck you.

Training 3 million nurses is probably overkill, but denying entry to people who could have been infected seems pretty reasonable to me.

[Orruar]

The thing with Ebola is that it spreads very slowly. Even in dirt-poor Africa where custom dictates you basically take a bath with the corpse of your dead relative and people believe you catch Ebola by saying the word "Ebola", it has taken like a year to go from 1 to 10,000 people. If we start to see a real outbreak here, we'll have time to train our health care professionals. And we'll probably scale the level of our training to match the risk. If you want to be pissed at the CDC, be pissed that they told the second Ebola nurse that it was cool for her to fly with a slight fever.

[Sidelle]

You want them to spend valuable time training every healthcare worker in the country to deal with a disease that has so far affected 3 people here? You do realize there are hundreds, if not thousands, of diseases/conditions that affect more people than that and we can't train them on everything? You start with the big stuff. If an Ebola outbreak hits, you can bet there will be more training. Until then, it's not worth it. There are roughly 3 million nurses in America. If we spent 20 hours each to properly train them, that's 60 million man hours of training. That's somewhere north of $1B for training. Assuming this training led to a 100% success rate in preventing the spread of the disease, it would mean thus far a reduction of 2 cases of Ebola. Or you could spend that money on other shit and save thousands of lives.

No, that's not what I was getting at. Training every single hospital would be impractical and ridiculous. But I do think they should have designated a handful of hospitals to be prepared specifically for receiving and properly caring for Ebola patients who test positive.

As for the rest of the hospitals throughout the country, there should have been a better screening and quarantine protocol in every hospital based on certain criteria; recent trip to Africa + symptoms. If someone tests positive, ship them to a hospital that's specially equipped and staffed with Ebola-trained medical people, not baby nurses who just got out of nursing school in August. Thomas Duncan should have never been turned away from that Dallas hospital, and he wouldn't have been if there had been a strict procedure to follow for the simple fact that he just arrived in the US from West Africa and had Ebola symptoms.

Also, what evidence do you have that the troops going to Africa aren't being properly trained? My brother is trying to join a program that sends nurses over to Liberia and part of it is a 2 week training program at the CDC HQ. And part of the reason they have this program is so that those who gain experience are spread around the country so that they can train others if the need arises.
Excellent, if this is what they're doing.

[Sidelle]

The thing with Ebola is that it spreads very slowly. Even in dirt-poor Africa where custom dictates you basically take a bath with the corpse of your dead relative and people believe you catch Ebola by saying the word "Ebola", it has taken like a year to go from 1 to 10,000 people. If we start to see a real outbreak here, we'll have time to train our health care professionals. And we'll probably scale the level of our training to match the risk. If you want to be pissed at the CDC, be pissed that they told the second Ebola nurse that it was cool for her to fly with a slight fever.
Yeah, about nurse #2... I'm wondering what the real story is. She says she was given the ok by the CDC with a low-grade fever but that seems like a bullshit story in my opinion. The CDC is saying she lied about when she first started to feel symptoms (before the initial flight to Ohio). Maybe she lied, maybe she didn't. I really don't know. But to be safe the CDC should have kept a special eye on people who had direct contact with Thomas Duncan and made sure they really stayed home to monitor themselves instead of flying to Ohio to potentially infect all those wedding gowns she tried on. Lol... kinda joking but you get my point, right? :)

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tldr, but....

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Ebola in NYC, Hello "I am Legend."

[Misto]

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