The amount of asshattery on Seafury Island...

[Ducket]

Let me start off by saying I'm fairly new to p99 and after hitting level 50 I decided to head to seafury island to make some plat while xping to afford some upgrades. I've had a blast leveling up and meeting nice people along the way to 50.

However, "TITLE" amazes me. People deliberately pull mobs off of quads by charming/taunting whatever, sit on top of the mountain and chain pull whatever spawns, fake-out trains to snag mobs, and constant ooc shit talking and crybaby shaming. People need to stop being so fucking greedy on this server and learn how to share.

I really want to name shame the biggest assholes I've ever come across on p99. But I won't. Said person is a necromancer. I'm sure if they read this, they will know who I am.

End Rant.

[Widan]

People deliberately pull mobs off of quads



People need to stop being so fucking greedy on this server and learn how to share.

Hmm

[Ducket]

I do a quad every 15-20 minutes, and what really got me going tonight was I only pulled 2 for a "half" quad and someone still pulled one of my mobs off and it didn't start running back to me for 2-3 minutes. Also, if I know people aren't getting their fair share of mobs I won't quad, but when there are 2 other people on the island taking everything for themselves, I will try to get a quad in once in a while if I can tag the mobs with snare before they get to it.

Sorry if you assumed I was being a greedy asshole by mentioning "quads".

[teija]

hehe u sound like one of those wizards that will run around the island with 1-3 mobs waiting for that magical 4th mob for about 10-20mins before finally killing them...so don't judge us for being skeptical.

[Swish]

Solution: Remove seafuries from seafury island until people can play nice.

[Lojik]

Maybe people will be nicer if we rename them seahappy cyclops

[Whirled]

make them drop gnoll fangs only

[t0lkien]

That place is continual drama. When I was hanging out there however, the regulars seemed to share pretty well. It was only the few who turned up not knowing or caring how to share who started causing trouble in my experience.

As a Bard, it was pretty simple to pull Quag and use him to help sort out any fools who decided that stealing other people's mobs was the way to go. A douchebagging caster drained of mana was much more open to reasonable negotiation, I found.

[Bill Tetley]

time the spawns and sit on the spawn points?

[Daldaen]

Love how people hate quadders but don't say shit about shamans root rotting 4 with just epic.

[Clark]

hehe u sound like one of those wizards that will run around the island with 1-3 mobs waiting for that magical 4th mob for about 10-20mins before finally killing them...so don't judge us for being skeptical.

[Rec]

pvp enabled on seafury island only

[mitic]

just reduce spawn time of seafuries. server is highly mudflated anyways

[Nietche]

Love how people hate quadders but don't say shit about shamans root rotting 4 with just epic.

This.

[Ravager]

Is an asshat a hat you wear on your ass or an ass you wear on your head? And is Seafury Island the only place asshatterers practice their trade?

[Swish]

just reduce spawn time of seafuries. server is highly mudflated anyways

[t0lkien]

Is an asshat a hat you wear on your ass or an ass you wear on your head? And is Seafury Island the only place asshatterers practice their trade?

I'm pretty sure the implication is that you have your head up your own ass.

[Asudad]

Hehe, I am one of those wizards running around island at times and on third turn around the island with one Cyclops on my rear wondering ??where did all the clops go!!? It can be fun at times with playful teasing and competition to see who can snag a mob first. I have only played there for 3 days, so don’t know history of the place.

However, I think Ducket is referring to the other night. The mobs were spawning regularly and everyone seemed to be in a nice flow. There was a shaman rooting his 3 mobs on the shore. A druid or wiz would quad every 12-15 minutes when all the sudden no mobs. It turned out 2 high level necros showed up and took the hilltop and were killing everything that spawned. They had every right to be there and made it look ridiculously easy to kill the clops. However after about 20 minutes of nothing to pull, the necros started taunting players in ooc, which to me is no class. You can’t do anything about it and can only wish they will go away.

Oh, and Swish that poor cat has been drinking too much coffee!

[Indefinite]

Love how people hate quadders but don't say shit about shamans root rotting 4 with just epic.

[fastboy21]

Sounds like fun. Classic EQ.

You do know that you don't have to play in the popular spots, right? The low population of p99 compared to live means that going even a little off the beaten trail often means you won't see many other players for long stretches of time.

Folks also tend to generally be nicer in the lower pop area IMO also.

[Clark]

just reduce spawn time of seafuries. server is highly mudflated anyways

[jcr4990]

Love how people hate quadders but don't say shit about shamans root rotting 4 with just epic.Except for the part where shamans kill those 4 mobs about 2-3x as fast as a druid running in circles for 10 minutes with 3 mobs trying to find a 4th. There's no stall time shamans are immediately killing whatever they pull.

Quadders are lame. Sorry.

[Velerin]

I feel like it would be a lot more efficient for quadders to just single pull/nuke then med when seafuries is crowded. Better than kiting around for 10 min while you're not medding and also speeds up the spawns for everyone.
And shamans...they should have to cast at least 1 mana costing damage spell..

[jcr4990]

And shamans...they should have to cast at least 1 mana costing damage spell..What purpose would that serve? Shamans aren't stalling spawns lol

[Velerin]

A mage or necro kills the clops in 1-2 min, a shammy with just epic about 5-7 min each? That adds up fast when there's a bunch of hungry hunters out.

[sox7d]

Bullshit and assholes sounds like a perfectly reasonable price for an easy cash spot.

It won't get better, deal with it.

[jcr4990]

A mage or necro kills the clops in 1-2 min, a shammy with just epic about 5-7 min each? That adds up fast when there's a bunch of hungry hunters out.Yea I'm not buying it. Pretty much no class can kill singles there as fast as a mage/necro can. Not sure what your point is here. Shamans taking longer to kill stuff than necros is different than druid/wiz kiting 3 mobs around for 10 min doing 0 dmg to it so they can get 4 for a quad. Happens all the time and is the pinnacle of dbaggery imo.

[Jaxon]

All of this whining just gets me in the mood to head over to OOT and start killing cylcops with my 2 point damage shield.

[Ravager]

I'm pretty sure the implication is that you have your head up your own ass.

Ahh, an Autobuttplug.

[Velerin]

Yea I'm not buying it. Pretty much no class can kill singles there as fast as a mage/necro can. Not sure what your point is here. Shamans taking longer to kill stuff than necros is different than druid/wiz kiting 3 mobs around for 10 min doing 0 dmg to it so they can get 4 for a quad. Happens all the time and is the pinnacle of dbaggery imo.

Heh my point is if you do the math, slowly root rotting 5 mobs with epic and a quadder running around for 7-10 min then burning them down in a minute ends up being about the same. So equal "dbaggery" for others there..

[Korben]

A mage or necro kills the clops in 1-2 min, a shammy with just epic about 5-7 min each? That adds up fast when there's a bunch of hungry hunters out.

Total horse shit. A Necro could kill one in 1-2 mins if they were using 60% of their bar doing it sure.

#1 sustained solo killing vs Seafuries = Epic Shaman.

I have both a Necro and Shaman, and once I brought my Shaman there I was like why the fuck would anyone bring a Necro here. I have rotted 9 at a time(about the upper threshold).

[Ravager]

Shamans and necros are stupid to waste their time on gems on seafury island when they could be owning HS and Seb. This should be a thread complaining about wizards quadding the seafuries, because it's the one damn thing they can do solo.

[Velerin]

Haha not once did I ever say a epic shaman is not more efficient. Of course he is since he's using no mana except for roots. If it is an empty island of course a shaman would be best. Talking about most user friendly for crowded times on the isle in this thread. Can't complain about quadders kiting mobs when a shammy is slowly ticking away their health.
I'd much rather see a necro/mage burning thru mobs for faster turnover of the island..

[Daldaen]

Except for the part where shamans kill those 4 mobs about 2-3x as fast as a druid running in circles for 10 minutes with 3 mobs trying to find a 4th. There's no stall time shamans are immediately killing whatever they pull.

Quadders are lame. Sorry.

If they delay that long yes.

Or they can just kill their 3 in a third the time it takes a shaman to root rot one.

Or people can realize quadders gonna quad and you're best to let them get their fourth and allow them to med for 10min while you kill mobs.

[fastboy21]

Haha not once did I ever say a epic shaman is not more efficient. Of course he is since he's using no mana except for roots. If it is an empty island of course a shaman would be best. Talking about most user friendly for crowded times on the isle in this thread. Can't complain about quadders kiting mobs when a shammy is slowly ticking away their health.
I'd much rather see a necro/mage burning thru mobs for faster turnover of the island..

its less obvious/overtly obnoxious than a bard or a quad kiter...but shamans can tie down an obscene amount of mobs with their slow and steady root/dot stuff.

the real annoyance when you share an area with a shaman is that it tends to take them (much) longer to kill stuff, so over the course of several hours you have fewer available spawns.

the world is so big though...why share if you don't like to? there are plenty of persistently empty camps that give exp and cash loot and are almost always uncamped on p99.

[Korben]

Haha not once did I ever say a epic shaman is not more efficient. Of course he is since he's using no mana except for roots. If it is an empty island of course a shaman would be best. Talking about most user friendly for crowded times on the isle in this thread. Can't complain about quadders kiting mobs when a shammy is slowly ticking away their health.
I'd much rather see a necro/mage burning thru mobs for faster turnover of the island..

I'm not talking about efficency, I'm talking about speed. If there's only 1 mob, a Shaman will pour extra dots onto it and kill fast.

If there's 9 spawns, a Shaman can kill all 9 in ~5-6 minutes.

Who else is killing 9 that fast?

[mgellan]

If you're pulling multiple mobs when other people are waiting on one, you're a dick. Very simple rule!

Regards,
Mg

[Velerin]

If you're pulling multiple mobs when other people are waiting on one, you're a dick. Very simple rule!

Regards,
Mg

Truth.
/thread

[Emile]

Are wizards really running around for literally 10 minutes or are you guys just exaggerating? When I quad there I give my search for mobs maybe 2 minutes tops, and then it's only something like 8 nukes and I have 4 dead mobs. I'm pretty sure the time it takes to go from getting off my medding ass to looting the corpses is comparable to the time it takes a shaman to kill the 4 he has rooted.

[dmorawski]

quadders gonna quad

[Flamewraith]

Love how people hate quadders but don't say shit about shamans root rotting 4 with just epic.

Doesn't bother me nearly as much as a bard charming either quag or some dwarf merchant and literally camping THE ENTIRE ISLAND. Guy chooses to play the one class that can exp and make money better than any class by MILES, but instead holds down the most casual money making spot.

[Mac Drettj]

Join red99 today

[Llodd]

Are wizards really running around for literally 10 minutes or are you guys just exaggerating? When I quad there I give my search for mobs maybe 2 minutes tops, and then it's only something like 8 nukes and I have 4 dead mobs. I'm pretty sure the time it takes to go from getting off my medding ass to looting the corpses is comparable to the time it takes a shaman to kill the 4 he has rooted.

They're exaggerating. It's more like 30 secs -2 mins tops. You see them sometimes do a few circuits of the island looking for that elusive 4th. But that is an eternity in EQ and people get well mad.

And hey dont knock the necros. It's usually those guys that kill Quag/corrupted/tainted

[Reguiy]

I love a good seafury island drama thread.

[baalzy]

They're exaggerating. It's more like 30 secs -2 mins tops. You see them sometimes do a few circuits of the island looking for that elusive 4th. But that is an eternity in EQ and people get well mad.

And hey dont knock the necros. It's usually those guys that kill Quag/corrupted/tainted

Whenever I feel like going to seafury island I do the public service of killing quag.

[sulpher01]

Don't know why you had to make a surprised thread about this... it involves peoples platinum on p99, of course they are going to be douchebags... in fact im sure there are worse ways they could be douchebags totally within the rules.

[t0lkien]

If you're pulling multiple mobs when other people are waiting on one, you're a dick. Very simple rule!

Regards,
Mg

Except when you're a Bard charm kiting, in which case you need two at all times.

[Lojik]

I wonder if the developers of this game had some premonition of the drama that would ensue in this zone, thus naming it Ocean of Tears.

[iruinedyourday]

I wonder if the developers of this game had some premonition of the drama that would ensue in this zone, thus naming it Ocean of Tears.

haha win

[Briscoe]

Whenever I feel like going to seafury island I do the public service of killing quag.

Whenever I feel like going to seafury island I do the public service of killing tainted.

[Briscoe]

I'm not talking about efficency, I'm talking about speed. If there's only 1 mob, a Shaman will pour extra dots onto it and kill fast.

If there's 9 spawns, a Shaman can kill all 9 in ~5-6 minutes.

Who else is killing 9 that fast?

I don't think your average shaman on seafury island is going to finish 9 seafuries in ~5-6 minutes.

[iruinedyourday]

Whenever I feel like going to seafury island I do the public service of killing tainted.

whenever I feel like going to seafury island I do the public a favor and dont go.

[Korben]

I don't think your average shaman on seafury island is going to finish 9 seafuries in ~5-6 minutes.

Enstill + epic and it's not too tough. 7 would be cake.

[littlebobby3]

Lol as a necro that camps at the top of the hill, yeah it sucks that it's highly contested but I am happy with just one. If I see more wandering when I'm killing I'll pull it or a 3rd if I have the mana. But it's only lame when I see a wiz and bard on the island running around with 3 each still looking for the 4th. I gate when I see a bard and wiz on the island

[Briscoe]

I am still amused at how one of these threads pops up every six months or so. Seafury island is seafury island. You should know what to expect. If it's 10AM on a weekday you'll have a field day. If it's 8PM on a Sunday, you might as well leave. If an epic mage or EoT necro shows up, you might as well leave.

[iruinedyourday]

When is someone gona RP as this guy.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ScCZ8PXy8yA/UydsJaac-mI/AAAAAAAAWM0/bG60w8TtkQQ/s1600/its_my_island2.png

[Swish]

I am still amused at how one of these threads pops up every six months or so. Seafury island is seafury island. You should know what to expect. If it's 10AM on a weekday you'll have a field day. If it's 8PM on a Sunday, you might as well leave. If an epic mage or EoT necro shows up, you might as well leave.

naw, put a Seafury Island PNP in place citing 1 active seafury per person 24/7 or reduce spawn times to 30 minutes.

I'd say that's a middle ground. Personally I'd just take them out completely if people can't be nice to each other, cut the petition queue etc.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

seafuries have always been the place to go if you really, really, really luv headaches.

[Naprox]

If you're pulling multiple mobs when other people are waiting on one, you're a dick. Very simple rule!

Regards,
Mg

This guy gets it.

[Flamewraith]

Any class that can quad kite could also make 6x more money doing other things. Druids can sell PL's and wizzies can sell chardok AOE kills at 4k/hour.

[BranRizzy]

I'm not talking about efficency, I'm talking about speed. If there's only 1 mob, a Shaman will pour extra dots onto it and kill fast.

If there's 9 spawns, a Shaman can kill all 9 in ~5-6 minutes.

Who else is killing 9 that fast?

As a wizard with 4 mobs I can kill them in about 30 seconds, who else can do it that fast, talk about mob turnaround! med for 7-8 mins and kill another 4 in 30 seconds. It's all perspective man, if I have the mobs available I can kill faster than anyone, just a difference in methods

[Briscoe]

As a wizard with 4 mobs I can kill them in about 30 seconds, who else can do it that fast, talk about mob turnaround! med for 7-8 mins and kill another 4 in 30 seconds. It's all perspective man, if I have the mobs available I can kill faster than anyone, just a difference in methods

Similarly, I could churn through about 8-9 quads per hour if I was there during off hours. Certainly one of the more lucrative activities available to me. But again, the key is off hours.

[BranRizzy]

Yah I was more or less trying to draw a comparison that my 6 minutes of gathering mobs for a kite, is the same as the 6 minutes it takes an epic to root/rot. People on seafury island are always just a bunch of fuckin grumps anyways. When I was there I would send tells to people, I would let people peel from my quads they had 3 and I had 2, I would share, and you know what I had a blast there

[jarshale]

Turns out, people on a server based around accumulating pixels are greedy. Who knew?

[Tasslehofp99]

the only rule needed for seafury island is FTE; if you aren't the first to engage a mob then don't touch it.



so simple.

[Doil_Boil]

Pretty easy solution to the quadding complaint. Pull a mob, give it to the quadder, and they'll be done in about a minute.

[Yinikren]

Yea I'm not buying it. Pretty much no class can kill singles there as fast as a mage/necro can. Not sure what your point is here. Shamans taking longer to kill stuff than necros is different than druid/wiz kiting 3 mobs around for 10 min doing 0 dmg to it so they can get 4 for a quad. Happens all the time and is the pinnacle of dbaggery imo.

I kill these mobs faster than most necros and mages. That means I am pretty sure anyone who tries can do so as well. Stop with the excuses, quadders and shamans both suck.

[Pudge]

Roll on red. Issues resolved

[Emile]

I don't think people killing each other for camps is a solution for asshattery.

[Slumgum]

I don't think people killing each other for camps is a solution for asshattery.

With less than 200 people on during primetime you probably don't even have to kill anyone.

[Clark]

Turns out, people on a server based around accumulating pixels are greedy. Who knew?

Lol

[t0lkien]

I kill these mobs faster than most necros and mages. That means I am pretty sure anyone who tries can do so as well. Stop with the excuses, quadders and shamans both suck.

But for the social aggro issues on p99, charm kiting Bards would destroy you all. As it is, I'm content with using Quag as my weapon of choice on the lessers.

P.S. Of course, the Corrupteds now....

[heartbrand]

I heard there's a server where you can do so something about people who do this

[Llodd]

I heard there's a server where you can do so something about people who do this

Where is it? You maybe mean red but I guess that's just a troll, cuz I tried that and here's what happened:

Loading pls wait.

Who knew a wizard 3 levels higher than my necro would so easily beat me up. who knew.

[Niedar]

You going to to quit the Blue server the first time you wipe to a mob?

[Nirgon]

Next time you need the island give me your necro's info and I will secure it for you.

PvP lessons 3k plat an hour.

[Llodd]

And the point sailed merrily over their heads.

[Swish]

Where is it? You maybe mean red but I guess that's just a troll, cuz I tried that and here's what happened:

Loading pls wait.

Who knew a wizard 3 levels higher than my necro would so easily beat me up. who knew.

L4 wizard would easily kill a L1 necro. I'm guessing that's what happened.

Try harder ;)

[BarackObooma]

I spent many levels here quadding with my Wizard. Some thoughts for other Wizards who want to quad kite.
1. Be polite and don't assume people are knowingly stripping from your quad. The terrain is uneven and hilly and everyone is casting as fast as they can to get FTE. Mistakes happen. With your click stick, you can instant pull. Someone else may have started casting first and you swiped it before their spell finished.
2. I've only had a few occasions where people were stripping mobs just to be a dick. The solution is really simple, if they want to share your mobs, share ALL of them. Port/gate out and let them have the other 3-4. They'll learn (unless they're shamans and can root rot them all).
2. Be a good citizen and get to know the regulars as friends and not enemies. I've ported people so they can bank, succored people who got corrupt/quag aggro, peeled adds off people lom, etc.
3. If it's really busy, come back later. You're just going to frustrate yourself and everyone else on the island if you try to quad during prime time.
4. If you have to have a fourth mob and can't find one right away, go pull the extra clops on AC isle or Gornit.

To the person that said to just kill one and med to be nice, please realize that it takes almost the same mana to kill one as it does four which is why we quad in the first place. Whether we kill one or four, we still have to med 7-10 minutes.

[harnold]

yes, join the red server where only one asshole gets the island and there is nothing you can do about it, good idea

[Niedar]

Yeah, join that low population server where half the time you will get the island to yourself just by logging in.

[skipdog]

I think anybody complaining about Seafuries is A BIG NO-FUN WHINER!

Honestly, I've had so much fun at Seafuries in the last week. Where else in the game on blue can we actively engage in friendly competition with other players? The reward for winning the friendly competition? PLATINUM!! Who couldn't love this place??

But seriously, this place is a blast. It's fun competition to tag them cyclops. If a wizard is able to snag a full quad, PROPS TO HIM!! He just beat a bunch of slow people on the island! People should not be stealing any of his quads... and I hope any of those wizards actively petition if they do notice somebody snagging one of their mobs.

Am I going to root rot 4 cyclops at a time? YOU BET I AM!!!! That's what we came to this land for right?? To kill cyclops!!!

Really though, if I'm root rotting 4 cyclops at a time, then either the island is pretty empty(and why would you complain about that), or you are just really bad at tagging cyclops(which is possible... I sometimes see players just running around the entire island for hours, never choosing a spot, barely getting any tags at all).

My point of this post is.... seafuries is fun competition. FTE reins supreme. If somebody beats you to a cyclops, you don't get angry at them... you get angry AT YOURSELF FOR SUCKING!!!

[Llodd]

L4 wizard would easily kill a L1 necro. I'm guessing that's what happened.

Try harder ;)

Oh come now swish; I know you've got a bit of a boner for red these days; but I'm sure you really know that it's not as simple as "join red where you can do something about it"

;)

[t0lkien]

You are all making me miss not only seafury island, but also Tiggles and his epic Wizard, and all the /ooc drama.

*wipes tear*

[sedrie.bellamie]

leave the island alone it is perfect; it brings all the griefers together in one nice place.

[Nirgon]

Oh come now swish; I know you've got a bit of a boner for red these days; but I'm sure you really know that it's not as simple as "join red where you can do something about it"

;)

We have stolen one of your bluebies.

I'm sure he will report soon on his times on red.

If you like doing ToV at 11am on a week day, you have fun with dat.

[Swish]

yes, join the red server where only one asshole gets the island and there is nothing you can do about it, good idea

Get your pals and team up, he'll cry in ooc about how he got killed 3v1 and you'll deny it of course, for maximum rustling...

Soloquest doesn't work so good on red, particularly if you're new to pvp.

... I'm sure you really know that it's not as simple as "join red where you can do something about it"

;)

You can do more about it on red than you could ever hope to accomplish through Petitionquest on blue, where your plat has less value anyway.

[Niedar]

Yeah, i have basically never played everquest except for a level 8 enchanter I made on blue a year ago and quitting before I really even started. I just started on red like 2 weeks ago maybe now or maybe even less than that. I am level 40 and have been killed in pvp exactly once while I have died in pve over 10-20 times.

Even with a lower population than blue I am easily able to find groups due to the exp bonus and the global /ooc. I never found a group with my enchanter on blue even though I saw other people while I was in a group pretty much from level 1 on red. Not to mention the fact that two different people just gave me some gear and plat when I first created my character which never happened to me on blue.

From my standpoint, red is a better community than blue is but hey keep on living in fear.

[Nirgon]

Go read the blue raid forums about raid classes, consider what you want to do with your play time... then consider red.

Having to have 6 characters camp out at all different places just to see batphones during work hours wasn't for me.

Plus? The taint is largely removed from the red server. You can even have 1 red char active and 1 blue active active. I have seen no one who has started on red RECENTLY regret their decision. Nor have I seen all the epics quest mobs tied down to be sold for MQs.

[Doil_Boil]

Yeah, i have basically never played everquest except for a level 8 enchanter I made on blue a year ago and quitting before I really even started. I just started on red like 2 weeks ago maybe now or maybe even less than that. I am level 40 and have been killed in pvp exactly once while I have died in pve over 10-20 times.

Even with a lower population than blue I am easily able to find groups due to the exp bonus and the global /ooc. I never found a group with my enchanter on blue even though I saw other people while I was in a group pretty much from level 1 on red. Not to mention the fact that two different people just gave me some gear and plat when I first created my character which never happened to me on blue.

From my standpoint, red is a better community than blue is but hey keep on living in fear.

TL;DR - Didn't really try blue, but I think that not finding a group before level 8 means red is better.

[feanan]

You gonna be sad when velious comes out and red population is ~20, since its mostly bored level 60's from blue playing there.

[dustysr06]

Should reroll red, seafuries never camped :)

[Kamid]

And if they are camped, pvp solution bros. Then you can take screen shots and edit them with ms paint and make posts on forums about the plat / pixels you stole from random n00b. Brings so much more joy than running around in circles on overcamped seafury island looking for a seafury to spawn and casting your level one nuke to get first engage.

[heartbrand]

You gonna be sad when velious comes out and red population is ~20, since its mostly bored level 60's from blue playing there.

Not sherrif srs or dum? Red players on avg have much thicker beards than blue players.

[Rooj]

Then why do I hear so much more QQ from red players than blue? zzz

[Niedar]

Maybe because instead of quitting and going back to blue they just QQ about it and keep on playing.

[haksum]

Then why do I hear so much more QQ from red players than blue? zzz

I don't play Red but from the forums there is waaaay more QQ from blue. Thus the raid dragon rotation, this thread, BB fangs pre-nerf, someone perma-camping X mob for MQ, etc... the list goes on. The real bitching on Red outside of the couple guilds crying because the other guild has more people just seems to be people mad because they died in PvP on a PvP server .... usually Blue players ...

[nicemace]

I don't play Red but from the forums there is waaaay more QQ from blue. Thus the raid dragon rotation, this thread, BB fangs pre-nerf, someone perma-camping X mob for MQ, etc... the list goes on. The real bitching on Red outside of the couple guilds crying because the other guild has more people just seems to be people mad because they died in PvP on a PvP server .... usually Blue players ...

have to agree with this. red forums is all doom and gloom and going on about how the community is toxic lol.

[Rooj]

Blue has 10x the amount of players, but not 10x the amount of QQ. I'm not talking about just the forums. Global OOC is normally a whinefest.

[haksum]

Blue has 10x the amount of players, but not 10x the amount of QQ. I'm not talking about just the forums. Global OOC is normally a whinefest.

Red forums is just another form of PvP to most of those goons. And when I played blue the first time around years ago there was Global OOC with a small pop there too and it was pretty toxic at times. I can't even imagine how bad it would be now with 1000+ pop. Eek. The dude with the erotic stories was funny for a bit but got old.

Groups on blue can get pretty toxic too especially in places like Seb and back in the day in LGuk. There's only a handful of loudmouth QQ'ers on Red, but they have a global medium to 'express' themselves so I think it comes off looking like more. *My experience is limited but I solo leveled a SK to 20-something before the exp bonus so I was there for a while.*

[Swish]

People can't even camp a seafury spawn here without someone getting mad and putting a petition in.

Way to show those red "goons" how progressive, happy and caring the blue server is guys, keep that up...and don't forget to take a ticket ;)

[Malevz]

People can't even camp a seafury spawn here without someone getting mad and putting a petition in.

Way to show those red "goons" how progressive, happy and caring the blue server is guys, keep that up...and don't forget to take a ticket ;)

Blue server: Someone is stealing my seafuries, please GM's intervene! Won't someone think of the pixels. When the GM gets here I'll have a firm discussion with that guy and sort this out. This is ruining my classic experience. I was only AFK for two seconds learning how the raid rotation is set up for this week.

Red Server: Seafurystealer has been slain by Moneyhungry (Ocean of Tears)

Given the option I'd play alone on the latter, before soiling myself logging into the former.

[Reguiy]

Can we get back to complaining about seafury drama? All these red players begging blue players to join their server is boring :D.

[Malevz]

All these red players begging blue players to join their server is boring :D.

Not here to recruit anyone, frankly everyone being high end on red is plenty as is. Just bored at work browsing the boards.

Some people want to play on blue server, some like red. Thus why it's good there are two servers.

[BranRizzy]

My favorite part of red is when they say just kill whoever stole your camp settle it with pvp, then zerg guilds come along and all you hear is bitching, wot?

[t0lkien]

Can we get back to complaining about seafury drama? All these red players begging blue players to join their server is boring :D.

It's the same old reruns every season amirite?

[Llodd]

You can do more about it on red than you could ever hope to accomplish through Petitionquest on blue, where your plat has less value anyway.

Well ofcourse, no one can deny that; but there's also more scope of getting ganked and seeing ZERO seafuries thereafter (assuming ofcourse red had the players to have this drama in the first place, now that would be some good shit)

[webrunner5]

My favorite part of red is when they say just kill whoever stole your camp settle it with pvp, then zerg guilds come along and all you hear is bitching, wot?

Pretty much the reason I don't play on Red very much. One on one is OK but when a whole damn group wants to kill you that pretty much sucks. Just too much stupid shit on Red for me.

I know there is some really nice people on it, but it is sort of like dealing with the public in RL, when the very first customer you deal with is just a total jackass it screws your whole day up even if everyone else you meet is nice.

[Alanus]

I stopped going to seafuries because it was way overcamped. Same with most 50s solo spots.

There are some solid exp spots with decent plat drops that are not overcamped. Just go to more desolate areas...

[Gustoo]

pvp enabled on seafury island only

Basically no one ever complains about seafury's on red. It's one of the main reasons PVP is 100X better than non PVP.

[Tann]

Just go to more desolate areas...

R99?

[Emile]

Basically no one ever complains about seafury's on red. It's one of the main reasons PVP is 100X better than non PVP.

So when people ask you why you play on red, your response is "because basically no one ever complains about seafurys"?

[Glasken]

Try harder ;)

I used to like Swish, then he turned all red and shouty =(

[heartbrand]

If you like pixels and raiding, red is the server for you. If you like long wait lists, not getting a piece of vulak loot until 2023, constant petition wars, then yes blue is for you. There's a reason almost all the BiS beta copy chars are red chars.

[Pikrib]

I have to agree with my esteemed colleague Heartbrand. I started on blue and hated how somone could KS me with assbaggery. I moved to red and thrived. I am probably 3 items away from being a BiS cleric.

As HB eloquently stated less people = more loot to go around.

Also if you come to red you never worry about camp/spawn issues.

[Ravager]

There's a red server now?

[Nirgon]

Got a guy who threw in the towel trying to just get the Cabilis piece on blue for enchanter epic.

In other news, Verina Tomb watching me buy coffins on red like a boss.

If you like raiding during US prime time and regularly killing the gud mobs, get @ us in game.

[webrunner5]

If I had a Wife that can stand to be screamed at, a Dog that does like to be kicked, and a Cat that likes to be thrown in the bath water I would play Red more. :D:D:D

[Nirgon]

Just gotta leave your pride at the door and not be a YT obsessed sicko

[rafaone]

owned

Maybe people will be nicer if we rename them seahappy cyclops

[Doil_Boil]

If you like pixels and raiding, red is the server for you. If you like long wait lists, not getting a piece of vulak loot until 2023, constant petition wars, then yes blue is for you. There's a reason almost all the BiS beta copy chars are red chars.

We get it. Empty server = more easy access to pixels.

Some of us prefer a large community to fast levelling and easy loot. Get over it.

[indiscriminate_hater]

i'm surprised more people aren't at hill giants. it's rarely camped nowadays

[heartbrand]

We get it. Empty server = more easy access to pixels.

Some of us prefer a large community to fast levelling and easy loot. Get over it.

If it's empty how do we kill raid bosses to get pixels? Maybe yours is just over populated.

[Susvain2]

There's a reason almost all the BiS beta copy chars are red chars.

alot of those toons blow. ever seen the mage one?

[maestrom]

i'm surprised more people aren't at hill giants. it's rarely camped nowadays

Haven't drops there been nerfed really hard?

[indiscriminate_hater]

Haven't drops there been nerfed really hard?

not sure. i was there pretty recently, it seemed like the usual drops. 0-49 pp per kill and fine steel, tier 2 gems thrown in

[Briscoe]

i'm surprised more people aren't at hill giants. it's rarely camped nowadays

There are precious few hill giant spawns (some would argue (www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=162548) too few), so it doesn't take much for them to dry up. Not worth running out there; not worth a bind point.

[BardPop]

Some of us prefer a large community Red is large, if you need 1000 people to feel large enough idk what your problem is.

On a serious note it sounds like this "largeness" of the community just causes a problem for the inhabitants. Every cow wants grass but the grass is all being eaten by other cows. If i played blue i'd prob give up on hgs/or oot, to much competition for it to be any good plat.

[Tann]

cows.

Well at least you're describing R99 honestly. :cool:

[Reguiy]

There are precious few hill giant spawns (some would argue (www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=162548) too few), so it doesn't take much for them to dry up. Not worth running out there; not worth a bind point.

I dunno. If you have the place to yourself then you're looking at 500-1500 an hour if u include finesteel. Better than what you can make doing most cash camps like in droga.

[Faron]

We don't want to play on red, get over it.

[BardPop]

We'd call this "rustled" on red99. An individual having a conversation with no real intent to insult is suddenly verbally insulted by someone who feels angry. Shame.

[Ravager]

We'd call this "rustled" on red99. An individual having a conversation with no real intent to insult is suddenly verbally insulted by someone who feels angry. Shame.

What's red? Tell me all about it!

[Reguiy]

Do you want to play red,,,tell us! Let us know! I wonder.

[BardPop]

The irony here is perfect, p99 blue is so crowded every seafury is claimed by at least 1 player and nobody makes any money, yet people seem extraordinarily defensive about their overpopulated server and don' seem t want those playing it to leave. I say lets send more to blue, they clearly do not have enough.

[kaev]

Irony? What irony? I do not think that word means what you think it means.

Most of us don't actually give a shit about seafury isle, as evidenced by this sad, puny, sickly excuse for a drama thread. Even with redites drooling all over it there's next to nothing to see here.

[Doil_Boil]

Red is large, if you need 1000 people to feel large enough idk what your problem is.

On a serious note it sounds like this "largeness" of the community just causes a problem for the inhabitants. Every cow wants grass but the grass is all being eaten by other cows. If i played blue i'd prob give up on hgs/or oot, to much competition for it to be any good plat.

Shrug. I played classic, and I remember how populated live servers were during Kunark. This isn't shit.

I came for the classic feel. Red doesn't have it.

Also, if red is so well populated, why are you guys constantly begging for more players?

[BardPop]

Begging huh, funny. Many red players come from blue, probably the ones pointing out they no longer have the problems they had on blue. Something to think about.

Classic feel huh. Ya i get nostalgia, but if your not here for that, then arguments about over camping are relevant.

[Swish]

I came for the classic feel. Red doesn't have it.

Do you remember getting petitioned over the slightest things on classic tho?

The spirit of EQ was here in 2010... these days people are just mad, jaded and desperately trying to get their plat mountain to maintain its value.

Red on the other hand, you can start there and quickly level in groups and your plat goes further (imagine only having to kill 2500 Highkeep guards for item X, rather than 10k-12k of them).

Give it a try, neighbour ;)

[webrunner5]

It would not hurt if Velious came out. Problem is now you have a top heavy level server with not enough zones or areas to loot in now with 1,200 people or more on at times all wanting the same thing. :( Bad things are bound to happen in those conditions.