Yaulp buff lines AC is off majorly.

[botrainer]

Yaulp and Yaulp II and likely Yaulp III Are off, rank 1 is giving 5 ac which it was acutally 20 ac, and Rank 2 was giving 10 ac when it should be 30 AC, and Rank 3 was only giving 15 ac when it should be 40 AC. The number of STR is fine tho.

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I got a Book called Prima's Offical Strategy Guide which states the stats for Rank 1 and 2 and going in corrective order of the last 2 ranks Id assum the AC retrun for 3 would only be 10 more then the last. I know AC dont matter much on this server until you hit 800 plus, but for Pallys it is a nice boost vs the lame 5 and 10 ac (which isnt classic). I can provide a Photo of what this book has, its on page 497 and, 498...incase you have a copy of it...I use that a score when im building my no nerf server often. At least for any spells level 1 to 20.

[botrainer]

Also starting to see a trend (both on Wiki and in game) The AC for Cleric buffs are off by a large sum as well.

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Again pulling note from the same Guide, Prima's Official Strategy Guide, The Ruines of Kunark. Page: 424 Spell Courage, Clr 1 Pall 9, Ac base 10 max 15....Page: 419, Spell Center, clr 9, pally 22, AC base 13, Max 20... Page: 446, Cleric 5, Pally 15, Ac base 15 plus 1 each level. . . Page 425, Spell, Daring, clr 19, Pally 39. Base AC 17, Max 30... Page 480,Spell Spirit Armor. Cleric, 19, Pally 30, Necro 16, Base ac 21, plus 1 a level max 45. Thats for Pally, clr, AC lines alone, looking that the trends the AC amounts would appear as

1 Courage AC max 15 Base ac 10
9. Center AC max 20 Base ac 13
19. Daring AC max 30 Base ac 17
Would only guess the trend is 5 or 10 a rank up of spells (every new set of spells max goes up by 5 aka level 9 is 20, if spell was at 14 it would be 25, then 19 is 30, 24 is 35 for the AC / HP combo spells) The rest would look something like this then

24, Bravery AC Max 35 Base ac 22
34, Valor AC Max 45 Base ac 28
44, Resolution AC Max 55 Base ac 35
And Heroism being AC max of 60... Base ac 43...

As for the Spirit Armor, Holy Armor their trends are much the same,
5. holy armor ac max 30 (since next line max is 45...) (15 ac was base+1 each level)
19 spirit armor ac max 45...(21 ac was base+1 each level)
The rest would trend like this....
29 Guard, ac max 55 (28 ac base?+1 each level until max?)
39 Armor of Faith ac max 65 (36 ac base?+1 each level until max?)
49 Shielding of Words ac max 75. (45 ac base?+1 each level until max?)
As for 50 plus AC buffs Id say 5 more AC pre upgrade and base acs of 55 / 66...(if there is 2 ac buffs I think there is just 1 tho.)

This is just the Cleric/Pally/Necro AC errors, Ill be checking Druid / Ranger Self / Skin line here in a moment...

[botrainer]

After doing some reviews of the Druid / Ranger buff line the Skin line is off with its AC the HP Is near spot on which is not an issue, the AC however is

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ALL are on Page 479
1. Skin like Wood, AC Base 10 + 1 / 2 levels MAX 15.
14. Skin like Rock, AC Base 16 + 1 / 2 levels MAX 25.
24. Skin like Steel, AC Base 20 + 1 / 2 levels MAX 35.
With these trend it would appear the other 2 AC base / max would look something like
39. Skin like Diamond AC base 26 + 1 / 2 levels MAX 45?.
49. Skin like Nature AC base 30 + 1 / 2 levels MAX 55?.


The Trend would leave the druid slighly behind in HP and about the same on AC returns.

Current numbers are dreadful, 3ac? max of 6ac?



As for the AC / DS combo buffs...less information but still something here too.
page 490 9 Thislecoat 7 ac + 1 level Max 21 plus 1 ds
page 412 19 Barbcoat 13 ac + 1 level (max unknown maybe its 22?) Plus 2 ds
Unsure of this trend, not alot of information to go off of. But it may look like this...

29 Bramblecoat 19 ac + 1 level. plus 3 ds (max 24?)
39 Spikecoat 25 ac + 1 level. plus 4 ds (max 30?)
49 Thorncoat 31 ac + 1 level. plus 5 ds (Max is 32?)

Discounting my trends, it still shows from the known information the AC numbers are off....In terms of buffage We are getting short changed on very low AC numbers...it worth opening and looking at this?

I also noted, Skin like steel / Bravery buffs at level 24 (druid / clr HP ac buffs) give the same ac, just different HP amount one is 50 (druid) other is 90(cleric)

[botrainer]

I also remember on Live always asking for Cleric AC Buff and HP Buff, and then asking DRUIDS for their skin buffs to get a slight bit more AC as a warrior tank, and even today (not that whats going on live NOW means anything much here) that buff combo is still true, Clerics for HP ONLY buff and, AC ONLY buff, while druids did SKIN, tho NOW on live Druid Skin buff is also HP regen, and mana regen...For what this is worth I still think Druid Skin buff should be more AC, less on HP (like these stats are showing) but only slightly and only for raid targets did it matter, but again AC is kinda broken until after 800ish but maybe we could look at this and say well the HP Regen with the less of 10 to 40 HPs is worth it? Give some meaning back to druids...

[botrainer]

Updated added some Pics to show these numbers in case you think its way to high...

[Ele]

The Prima strategy guide was known for being terribly unreliable.

EQ Casters has some info from 2001 regarding the Yaulp spells:

Yaulp 10str, 6ac
http://web.archive.org/web/20010418042558/http://eq.castersrealm.com/spells/spell.asp?Id=682

Yaulp II, 20str, 8 ac
http://web.archive.org/web/20010418043855/http://eq.castersrealm.com/spells/spell.asp?Id=723

Yaulp III, 30str, 20ac
http://web.archive.org/web/20010418043707/http://eq.castersrealm.com/spells/spell.asp?Id=771

Druid Skins:
March 3, 2000
http://web.archive.org/web/20000303144132/http://www.eqdruids.com/rank1.htm

Skin like Wood Abj 10 Add 4 AC & MAX HP +20 Buff

1) Skin Like Wood. This is an excellent buff spell. It improves slightly as your skill increases. Its effect is to add about 4 to your overall Armor Class, and 10 +1/level hp to your hit point total.

The rest of them are here: http://web.archive.org/web/20000304173833/http://www.eqdruids.com/spells.htm