so the gm`s (sirken & derubael) blame the red community

[mitic]

and they are right.

for those who missed it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=S8pahwY2TGo#t=5390

is it better now without nihilum? i dont think so seeing lite and his friends corpsecamping players in rags for DAYS in feerrott & bragging about it on the forums. something nihilum never did (when i was active)

so whats the solution? ban lite and disband azrael too? maybe.

but whats the real solution ? there is just one. nilbog, rogean...its time, do it.

[Mac Drettj]

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[Agatha]

no there isnt fucking just one solution, its a combined effort, all sides are lacking atm, playerbase effort is lacking, staff involvement is lacking, its a team effort on both parts.

head hunting from the GM's doesnt work, it just makes people paranoid, its like modern day policing america, you create more enemies than u do people to work with.

more GMs and more guides, id say red needs double the GM's blue does, its all about eyes, it has NOTHING to do with enforcing any kind of policy.

red will live and die by just having present GM's were everyone can see them. A GM on red does not have to do anything other than be present to be effective. thats it.

quicker the staff realizes this (maybe they already know and just don't care, although i will give them the bennifit of the doubt) the quicker this server starts heading toward 300+ numbers.

[harnold]

the truth is that the community doesnt want to play everquest pvp except for the people who are already playing there and thats what the gms arent getting

[Tradesonred]

Its a cop out. If were talking about the forums anyway. You dont want bad first impressions? When you see someone post to a person "Kill yourself junkie whore", you get a msg in your inbox telling you about that same message with a link, and hes still there the next week posting the same shit, its your fault.

I voluntereed myself several times to clean up the forums, because its seems they do not want to spend the 1 hour a week it would take to mass bans forum accounts that cross the line like this. Youre not gonna convince a person like littlegyno with arguments like "You only get one chance at first impressions", these people are sociopaths. Theres only one way to deal with those people, bans, followed by account bans.

As for the server being full of assholes, its also part of the staff's fault for brushing off feedback telling you exactly this would be the outcome of leaving xp loss in pvp.

[mitic]

i mean, derubael says its gone out of hand and they wont tolerate it anymore and then lite goes full retard corpsecamping players in rags for how many days without any punishment?

dont get me wrong, i dont give a fuck about lite and his nuttswingers but the boxpopulation wont raise ever again at the current state. we do in fact need a fresh start without velious and without kunark.

[Stasis01]

I can't imagine why some newb who just raided a few months out of the years the box has been alive gives a shit.

[Stasis01]

Who do you even play.

[Stasis01]

Also, you the people in "rags" refused to call LNS, poor poor victims?

[Tradesonred]

A wipe before Velious would be the only way i could see red resurrecting, and even then its a dangerous proposition, patient might die on the operating table. The assholes are well established as the dominant force on the server, and theres alot of first impressions that were had back in 2011 and 2012 with griefers having a blast with xp loss in pvp. Alot of those people are probably moved on and never giving the server another shot.

People were telling staff back then WTF xp loss in pvp? And we got told "Lol? This isnt CoD?". The state of the server now is a direct result of that lack of action on this matter for the longest time. Trying to say its only about asshole players is missing part of the picture.

[Stalos_]

i mean, derubael says its gone out of hand and they wont tolerate it anymore and then lite goes full retard corpsecamping players in rags for how many days without any punishment?

dont get me wrong, .

call guild loot and scoot. Corpse camping Problem solved.

This portion is a nonissue.

[mitic]

Also, you the people in "rags" refused to call LNS, poor poor victims?

actually, you are the victim by corpsecamping newbs making them quit the server.

seriously, fuck the server rules cause lite&friends will always find ways to grief players. ive never read the serverrules and iam still not banned. why? because iam using common sense.

call guild loot and scoot. Corpse camping Problem solved.

This portion is a nonissue.

this portion is not only a real issue but its one of THE issues we have on red99.

in sirkens words in above podcast:
stop fuckin making people not want to play here

[Kergan]

Wipe totally unfair to people who paid good money for accounts and items.

Also, how exactly does the same thing not happen again after a wipe? lol

[Mac Drettj]

Also, you the people in "rags" refused to call LNS, poor poor victims?

lite spending 72 hours in feerrott screaming in teamspeak and raging about people recovering their corpses when there was literally 4 lvl 60s in there while offered our croots the safest exp its ever had

HEH

[mitic]

Wipe totally unfair to people who paid good money for accounts and items.

Also, how exactly does the same thing not happen again after a wipe? lol

u take the painkillers when it hurts and not before it hurts.

so restart or start a new server and see what happens / take actions later.

[Kergan]

Yeah, fantastic idea to wipe 2+ years of peoples time to "see what happens".

p.s. see sig

[Instagib]

Cant farm free pixels anymore. Calls for wipe seems legit.

[Mac Drettj]

Norrath offered*

also lol @ the number of azraels to join our ts last couple days laughin at the pigsnout

[mitic]

Cant farm free pixels anymore. Calls for wipe seems legit.

i have all pixels the game can offer me except crown and rend robe. i dont give a fuck about pixels.

[Mac Drettj]

shut up go away imo

u shittin up our discussion forum

[Sear]

The mentality that the red server is going to grow if people stop attacking eachother (the draw of it being a pvp server) is really bizarre.

The 1-50 experience here is about as accommodating and blue as it gets. There's very little pvp and basically everyone groups. Most people are friendly.

Could make a decent argument that the lack of pvp is to the detriment of player experience.

[Tradesonred]

The mentality that the red server is going to grow if people stop attacking eachother (the draw of it being a pvp server) is really bizarre.

The 1-50 experience here is about as accommodating and blue as it gets. There's very little pvp and basically everyone groups. Most people are friendly.

Could make a decent argument that the lack of pvp is to the detriment of player experience.

Theres a huge difference between pvping, pvping for PVE camps, and saying repeatedly on forums that your explicit goal is to "grief people off the server" with the xp loss mechanic and bind camping people for hours to delevel them.

Its just that now the server is full of assholes after pop was drained of "normals" by said grief and staleness of raid scene in 2012 (all a consequence of xp loss in pvp).

Theres nothing to do but pvp on an EQ emu really, and that should have been understood from day 1 instead of trying to implement that ridic blue poop camp mechanic called xp loss in pvp that made the server 10 times as boring and empty of pvping than Rallos was, and were not even talking about the many other problems that this mechanic left on for so long engendered.

Basically now they are lamenting the behavior of the players that the staff helped put in a dominant position with the server rules they had in place in the first years of the server. Hes right, griefing noobs in rags isnt gonna help the pop, but nothing much can help the pop at this point since assholes had 3 years of gear farm, armed to the teeth and bored with nothing to do with pvp.

The problem is a lack of pop, and sure, how alot of players on red are assholes. But had to do something about it before the pop went from 600 to 100.

Theres a lack of looking in the mirror at the mistakes they made that put the server in the state it is now and much easier to blame the toxic players (they dont help either).

Red is probably broken beyond repair but theyd be doing themselves a service to have a hard honest assesment of what happened if they ever plan on doing another server, or an emu of another MMO.

[Eslade]

80‰ cry babies and retards in this thread. Didn't read more than a couple of posts. Stop being morons, play the game and keep Fraps on to catch cheaters. Most of all turn in the people you have dirt on instead of waiting until the time is most profitable for your ass.


Tldr gm's are right and most of you faggots deserve worse.

[Tassador]

Just keep playing eq guys Kunark forever.. Anyone up for seb???

[Stasis01]

lite spending 72 hours in feerrott screaming in teamspeak and raging about people recovering their corpses when there was literally 4 lvl 60s in there while offered our croots the safest exp its ever had

HEH

Thx for confirming the original idea of the thread was stupid, and the people being camped did so because they didn't want to call LNS.

[Kergan]

I dunno I can get corpse camped whilst sipping tea and reading a good book. Or doing some yard work. Or running errands.

Or I can corpse camp people and piss into a bucket so I don't miss someone trying to get their body.

Interedasting choices people make.

[Stasis01]

I'm not debating that, just saying there's no victim, two willing participants.

[mitic]

just the fact that you keep defending yourself proves how wrong you are stasis.

[Kergan]

No disagreement here. I guess what I'm saying is the victims aren't really the people being corpse camped, it's the other way around. The intent of corpse camping someone is to waste their time, plain and simple. In effect though, the campers have wasted much more of their own time.

[Thrilla]

community is a trash box any1 surprised u got fucktards like somebody who calls himself el presidente corpse camping bodies for 3 days and giving DKP for it

[Stasis01]

community is a trash box any1 surprised u got fucktards like somebody who calls himself el presidente corpse camping bodies for 3 days and giving DKP for it

http://i61.tinypic.com/zl3yi0.jpg

[Buhbuh]

Yeah, I'm still having a hard time reconciling the fact that Azrael, now rid of Nihilum, is still acting the same way toward completely different guilds who hold and foster different rules and standards.

Really the only things we have in common with the leading guild of yesteryear are its numbers and some of its old players, most of whom were totally fine with the dissolving process and the implementation of a different set of ideas.

It's fine if you guys want to paint it, "where was this decision when Nizzar was leading?" as a reason for your lack of change.

But that's really just a cop-out for using the same behavior. I agree that being righteously indignant over something can be good, but this isn't a case where it's necessary. You passed that bridge a long time ago.

Now you're just being shitty players to the community. We tried to get along, tried to be cool about it - maybe we'll try again in the future, but for now, unfortunately, it's just going to stay a shit show.

Like always, the box won't grow.

Just the same cyclical bullshit over and over until behavior changes.

[Stasis01]

Colgate left Azrael and shit talked us and said he'd crush us with his new Nihi pals.

Lit a pretty good fire under my ass personally.

[Buhbuh]

What an obtuse response.

[Stasis01]

I'm just saying that fight and arguably the CT one, was personal.

[Kergan]

I'm just saying that fight and arguably the CT one, was personal.

Yikes, immersion level critical.

[Mac Drettj]

No disagreement here. I guess what I'm saying is the victims aren't really the people being corpse camped, it's the other way around. The intent of corpse camping someone is to waste their time, plain and simple. In effect though, the campers have wasted much more of their own time.

[Mac Drettj]

I don't think lite told his guildies that there was only 3 bodies actually in fear

[Tradesonred]

80‰ cry babies and retards in this thread. Didn't read more than a couple of posts. Stop being morons, play the game and keep Fraps on to catch cheaters. Most of all turn in the people you have dirt on instead of waiting until the time is most profitable for your ass.

Tldr gm's are right and most of you faggots deserve worse.

http://images.clipartpanda.com/pointing-down-hand-clip-art-upside-down-arrow.svg

community is a trash box any1 surprised u got fucktards like somebody who calls himself el presidente corpse camping bodies for 3 days and giving DKP for it

[Doors]

Just gotta ban or remove the last toxic shit bags from the server. Some peoples brain rot too critical to cure now and they're never going to stop boxing/cheating/training no matter what guild tag people have.

[Tradesonred]

I dunno I can get corpse camped whilst sipping tea and reading a good book. Or doing some yard work. Or running errands.

Or I can corpse camp people and piss into a bucket so I don't miss someone trying to get their body.

Interedasting choices people make.

Thats how i feel about it as well

Remember some guy on Rallos camping me for 20mins and going in the kitchen to make a sandwich, came back and went like "You still there? lol"

Funny thing is i met this guy in crushbone a week ago, had the same name, was the same guy, couldnt remember incident.

[Vharvest]

I've been on the box less than a month and I'm astonished at the behavior of Azrael. There is no level they won't stoop to. If it only takes on CT to bring out this side of them, I can only imagine what's going to happen when they lose Trak or, heaven forbid, another guild steps in to Veeshan's Peak.

Back a scared animal in to a corner and the claws come out.

[Tradesonred]

I've been on the box less than a month and I'm astonished at the behavior of Azrael. There is no level they won't stoop to. If it only takes on CT to bring out this side of them, I can only imagine what's going to happen when they lose Trak or, heaven forbid, another guild steps in to Veeshan's Peak.

Back a scared animal in to a corner and the claws come out.

There is some much silly nerd hate here if you could package it and thered be a market for it, Rogean could be a millionaire in a month.

[Tradesonred]

so much

[Tradesonred]

fuck off ecoli no1 reads ur posts dawg, go play another box u crying baby

See what im talking about, theres 5$ right here

[Eslade]

How I read Ecoli's posts
"I'm a whiny faggot and I feel like everybody has wronged me. I don't play here but I still feel entitled to an opinion".
Spoiler
" you aren't. "


Go stand in line for archeage.

[Tradesonred]

How I read Ecoli's posts
"I'm a whiny faggot and I feel like everybody has wronged me. I don't play here but I still feel entitled to an opinion".
Spoiler
" you aren't. "


Go stand in line for archeage.

That was at least 15$ worth of silly nerd hate

[Mac Drettj]

this is how u spoiler

[SamwiseRed]

naw

[Tradesonred]

Computer wizardry

[Buhbuh]

I don't think anyone's calling out the GM's in this thread.

It is kind of interesting, though, that red, being the war zone that it sometimes is, has fewer GM's for its oversight. It's definitely a smaller server, but there's very few GM's even watching events unfold.

It's unfortunate that that's a necessity to recover what people think of as "fairness" here, but I've suggested in the past that the staff recruit several people as strictly Red guides without seeing much momentum.

I don't think they're doing a fucked up job with this server, we just don't have anyone to watch the population when shit gets out of hand. Regardless of what some of us may believe about having rules in the first place, we do have rules here and virtually no way to enforce them (even fraps doesn't suffice at times). I'm not overly fond of GM intervention, but as of late there's been a very public, blatant disregard for the rules among the player base, and without the oversight of anyone to enforce it, it will only continue.

To be frank, that's been the routine from day one. Yes, some of us will get the ban hammer when GM's are online, but the majority of us won't - and that's where things get murky. People aren't afraid to do stupid shit here because the likelihood of retribution is not only improbable, but unlikely to happen within a reasonable timeframe.

It's pretty clear the player base can't do it all on their own despite its many, sometimes half-hearted, efforts. I'd also venture to say, again, that without making an example of a handful of people, it will just continue.

There is a good reason Vallon and Rallos Zek were the higher populated servers between the four PvP servers, and I can tell you for certain that the cultures there were much more forgiving and player friendly (despite your feelings of how blue that is). If your most fond memories of EQ are bind camping, CCing, training - then I can see the reticence of wanting to change. But if your most fond memories were good mass PvP battles, smaller PvP skirmishes, or real competitiveness - well...

We've all got our work cut out for us.

[Vharvest]

Buhbuh so wise, glad he's in my guild. SPEAK IT BROTHER

[Farzo]

Yikes, immersion level critical.

[Niedar]

I've been on the box less than a month and I'm astonished at the behavior of Azrael. There is no level they won't stoop to. If it only takes on CT to bring out this side of them, I can only imagine what's going to happen when they lose Trak or, heaven forbid, another guild steps in to Veeshan's Peak.

Back a scared animal in to a corner and the claws come out.

I have been on this box for a couple days and a new player to everquest entirely if you don't count the level 8 enchanter I made on the blue server like a year ago. There sure is a lot of whining and crying on the forums for a pvp community.

[Potus]

There is a toxic community. But who let that shit fester for so long? They mention first impressions, how about releasing an insanely buggy, broken server with horrible rulesets and awful resist coding?

It's just as much the GMs' fault as it is the playerbase. When you don't have a GM around to police training and corpse camping and obvious RMT'ing then yeah the server is going to fail. You can't then turn around and be like "Whoa look at these bad apples, shame on you!"

[Stasis01]

I don't think anyone's calling out the GM's in this thread.

It is kind of interesting, though, that red, being the war zone that it sometimes is, has fewer GM's for its oversight. It's definitely a smaller server, but there's very few GM's even watching events unfold.

It's unfortunate that that's a necessity to recover what people think of as "fairness" here, but I've suggested in the past that the staff recruit several people as strictly Red guides without seeing much momentum.

I don't think they're doing a fucked up job with this server, we just don't have anyone to watch the population when shit gets out of hand. Regardless of what some of us may believe about having rules in the first place, we do have rules here and virtually no way to enforce them (even fraps doesn't suffice at times). I'm not overly fond of GM intervention, but as of late there's been a very public, blatant disregard for the rules among the player base, and without the oversight of anyone to enforce it, it will only continue.

To be frank, that's been the routine from day one. Yes, some of us will get the ban hammer when GM's are online, but the majority of us won't - and that's where things get murky. People aren't afraid to do stupid shit here because the likelihood of retribution is not only improbable, but unlikely to happen within a reasonable timeframe.

It's pretty clear the player base can't do it all on their own despite its many, sometimes half-hearted, efforts. I'd also venture to say, again, that without making an example of a handful of people, it will just continue.

There is a good reason Vallon and Rallos Zek were the higher populated servers between the four PvP servers, and I can tell you for certain that the cultures there were much more forgiving and player friendly (despite your feelings of how blue that is). If your most fond memories of EQ are bind camping, CCing, training - then I can see the reticence of wanting to change. But if your most fond memories were good mass PvP battles, smaller PvP skirmishes, or real competitiveness - well...

We've all got our work cut out for us.

I take it you weren't at the fight? Because it was like 40 mins long, and def wasn't over after a train.

In the middle I thought we were going to lose. Mostly the Nihi grp doing work tho, Gongshow Onepunch Tune Deka Weta etc etc were the heavy hitters of the fight - duh.

[Stasis01]

And I bet you see more people showing up to a fight like that - maybe not though, but I bet all sides had some fun.

Plus they took Tal and Sev, not too shabby for second place.

[Buhbuh]

Yeah, there's an equal responsibility. At first, I would have said it's entirely up to the population to police themselves, but we certainly aren't going to change and start acting civil now (for some retarded reason), so at some point the GM's will have to concede that and work around us.

I wasn't talking about today, Stasis. I don't think whether the train ended the battle today or not is even relevant to the underlying issue, though. The fact that the train even happened and, as per usual, no GM saw it, no GM will likely see it and nothing will be done about it, is more the concern.

It's an unqualified rule - not a "if the competition doesn't end with the train, that's an extenuating circumstance on the rule."

It's a problem with consistency more than anything.

[Stasis01]

Def not at the fight.

[Buhbuh]

Are you okay?

[Concave]

It would be kind've nice if a do-good'ing GM would stop by the various raid battles happening nowadays. They're not that frequent and are pretty easy to predict given how many of the major spawn timers are clustered together.

Either that or just amend the PnP to be intentionally more lax in raid battles. The current situation---where training is technically illegal but plays a major role in essentially every large PvP fight anyway because it is so radically unlikely to result in a sufficiently costly suspension or ban---is a particularly frustrating situation.

I don't think any change targeted primarily at the high end is likely to do much for the server, though; I think Derubael's pointed this out before. I figure most of the people quitting are being griefed off the server by Abualfreeporti or Maximillien in the 1-35 range, not by Lite in their 50s. Most of the presently level 55+ folks in particular are rabid die-hards, and particularly difficult to actually drive off, although this seems to be changing somewhat with the current wave of people hitting 51+; anecdotally, it seems like we have a fair number of people who are actually kind of new to a lot of EQ and are now entering Red99's 50+ range, which is really surprising, but maybe a natural result of the huge group exp bonus.

Anyway, I've run into the occasional person helping to buff random lowbies and handing out free items and stuff. Some folks even help to drive off the uber-twinked lowbie PKs. That kind of stuff does more for server population than anything else, in my opinion.

[Tradesonred]

Anyway, I've run into the occasional person helping to buff random lowbies and handing out free items and stuff. Some folks even help to drive off the uber-twinked lowbie PKs. That kind of stuff does more for server population than anything else, in my opinion.

Thats how i play my toons. I started a guild to PVP people like leduke in crushbone but i dont play much anymore. Theres not enough people that do that sort of shit and again to me the fault resides mainly in past staff decisions which pushed the server toward a pop that has a high concentration of pathetic individuals whose sole fun is ruining the fun of others.

[Smedy]

Also, you the people in "rags" refused to call LNS, poor poor victims?

literally the dumbest thing on the box, e-pride for veterans in holocaust more important then 90% of the other guilds progress and fun having...

one wonders if they ever score some fat pixels, how the fuck is that shit going to be fairly distributed if they care so little about their new players they are not even ready to call lns (which has zero impact besides perhaps the pride of some players, like rexx would say, who cares?)

[Bazia]

taking about pride, which guild spent 72 hours corpse camping 4 people who weren't even logged in praying for a LnS message in ooc?

[Farzo]

literally the dumbest thing on the box, e-pride for veterans in holocaust more important then 90% of the other guilds progress and fun having...

one wonders if they ever score some fat pixels, how the fuck is that shit going to be fairly distributed if they care so little about their new players they are not even ready to call lns (which has zero impact besides perhaps the pride of some players, like rexx would say, who cares?)

dumb post - holo cares more for their new players then AZ does, unless of course your suck cock hard or RMT or have an in with the vet's.

How many epics/planar raids has AZ done for new players? oh wait, yah.... hokuten was the last guild that did that.

like I said, dumb post smedy up your game you're better than this.

[Smedy]

actually, you are the victim by corpsecamping newbs making them quit the server.

seriously, fuck the server rules cause lite&friends will always find ways to grief players. ive never read the serverrules and iam still not banned. why? because iam using common sense.



this portion is not only a real issue but its one of THE issues we have on red99.

in sirkens words in above podcast:
stop fuckin making people not want to play here

love it when you're talking about griefing, you saw no problem in chasing me around norrath with your fully epiced wizard striking down a lvl 54 sk with more or less rags + an aon (which doesn't really help in 1v1 situations)

not sure if srs or dumb as fuck, actually... i'm pretty sure you have down syndrome dog

[Smedy]

dumb post - holo cares more for their new players then AZ does, unless of course your suck cock hard or RMT or have an in with the vet's.

How many epics/planar raids has AZ done for new players? oh wait, yah.... hokuten was the last guild that did that.

like I said, dumb post smedy up your game you're better than this.

whats dumb about it? call lns and keep playing? what the fuck...

there's been rules developed to counter corpse camping like this, why not use the rules implemented by gm staff instead of petitioning and wasting their time? you nigs dumber then a bag of rocks

[Danien]

dumb post - holo cares more for their new players then AZ does, unless of course your suck cock hard or RMT or have an in with the vet's.

How many epics/planar raids has AZ done for new players? oh wait, yah.... hokuten was the last guild that did that.

like I said, dumb post smedy up your game you're better than this.

Out of curiosity, is there a world for you where if Azrael are defeated holocaust does not reform/kick out the majority of their current roster? I'm not saying that's a bad thing but it just seems like you may wake up one day to choke on that Kool-aid.

[Psykes]

Two in the pink Lite & Nizzar, 1 in the stink Agatha

[mitic]

love it when you're talking about griefing, you saw no problem in chasing me around norrath with your fully epiced wizard striking down a lvl 54 sk with more or less rags + an aon (which doesn't really help in 1v1 situations)

not sure if srs or dumb as fuck, actually... i'm pretty sure you have down syndrome dog

I killed you once and moved on. Not sure what you're trying to say here.

[Farzo]

Out of curiosity, is there a world for you where if Azrael are defeated holocaust does not reform/kick out the majority of their current roster? I'm not saying that's a bad thing but it just seems like you may wake up one day to choke on that Kool-aid.

Server will still go on.................and on.................till Rogean trips on the power cord one day.

[Farzo]

whats dumb about it? call lns and keep playing? what the fuck...

there's been rules developed to counter corpse camping like this, why not use the rules implemented by gm staff instead of petitioning and wasting their time? you nigs dumber then a bag of rocks


bcoz no one needed to call LnS and we all kept playing =P I think it disrupted a handful of people for awhile, az blew more time trying to get a LnS out of Holo then it did impact Holo players.


Smarten up Swedieboy

[sotto]

Smedy - i had all the new players corpses out the following afternoon. Literally 12 hours later, lite was furious, hence why he started this insane 3 day corpse camp shit on the 3-4 remaining corpses. You don't even log in / play, so why do you keep ranting with shit thats not even accurate.

Azrael had 20 people alternating to keep drez, sotto, colgate, gream camped.

I went to work twice.
Colgate went to work 3 times.
Drez went to work twice
Gream doesn't play.

honestly, I feel really sad about azrael these days. most of them clearly don't have jobs, let alone a grasp on reality. I'm thinking about starting a kickstarter to get some self-help books for ya'll, if we get lucky and raise enuf, maybe we can get andais some more valtrex & rogaine

[LostCause]

5547

[Instagib]

literally the dumbest thing on the box, e-pride for veterans in holocaust more important then 90% of the other guilds progress and fun having...

one wonders if they ever score some fat pixels, how the fuck is that shit going to be fairly distributed if they care so little about their new players they are not even ready to call lns (which has zero impact besides perhaps the pride of some players, like rexx would say, who cares?)

You disgust me nowadays I used to be a big fan of your videos still am but why Azrael?

I think you've been blinded by the fungus or that cazic eye doing weird shit to your brain.

[radditsu]

Burn it to the ground.

[Cid]

This is the kind of shit that made me interested in the Guide Program before I got tired of being ignored and was forced to act like I was an angry child just to get a response. Being polite and patient resulted in around two weeks of useless waiting, but being a dick got an almost immediate response. It is a theme that permeates almost all facets of the server, which is a sad truth. Those with the biggest mouths and most free time get what little attention the Staff has to spare.

It is not primarily the fault of the GMs. They have an essentially thankless job without the third GM that was around until Zade quit. If it wasn't bad enough to be overwhelmed and under-manned, they are trying to babysit a couple hundred kids simultaneously and half of them are selfish, whiny, narcissistic, probably liars and throw tantrums at the slightest provocation.
I am not defending the GMs, I tend to disagree with their methods and hilarious lack of moderating abilities here and ingame.

However, if we wish to see those responsible for the problems Red has, we need only look in the mirror.
How many in the so called "Resistance" talked about the good things they could and would do once Nihilum was toppled? And what was accomplished? No animosity was buried with the guild tag. You're all still accusing, insulting and blaming each other for the same damn things you were over a year ago. Yet if someone switches sides they can, and have, gone from the Antichrist to BFFs instantly. That alone proves how fake and meaningless many people act and that they are being assholes just to be assholes.


For God's sake can we just point the finger at ourselves and quit acting like the dregs of society? I could have done more to help the server and probably still could if I thought there was reason to do so. Even I have become disenfranchised by the bullshit and the hypocrisy after three years. You should be thankful someone on the Staff hasn't snapped and gone Russian Mafia on you and banned every last friend you have ingame so you're alone and a leper at best or hated by your friends at worst.

No one is innocent. There are no clean whistles. Anyone claiming to be a White Knight suffers from delusions or lies to themself. Nihilum did shitty things, but Azrael sunk to their level as if the ends justify the means. Just let those feelings die like you would, and have, when someone switches sides. No matter who we are the needs of the many outweigh the needs of an individual. (I am talking to Guild Leaders in particular. You should exist to serve your members, not the other way around.)

I think that about does it, though, it is unlikely to inspire change in those who need it. All of us together are the cause of this mess and the catalyst for the solution. PvP while anger free! It is Player vs Player not person vs person like so many have made it out to be.

[Mac Drettj]

Smedy - i had all the new players corpses out the following afternoon. Literally 12 hours later, lite was furious, hence why he started this insane 3 day corpse camp shit on the 3-4 remaining corpses. You don't even log in / play, so why do you keep ranting with shit thats not even accurate.

Azrael had 20 people alternating to keep drez, sotto, colgate, gream camped.

I went to work twice.
Colgate went to work 3 times.
Drez went to work twice
Gream doesn't play.

honestly, I feel really sad about azrael these days. most of them clearly don't have jobs, let alone a grasp on reality. I'm thinking about starting a kickstarter to get some self-help books for ya'll, if we get lucky and raise enuf, maybe we can get andais some more valtrex & rogaine

we just kept logging in and logging out to keep them hook line and suckered

such a great week

[Gnomegrown]

who gives a fuck?

[Aesop]

not I,