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xblade724
09-30-2014, 01:38 PM
Man anyone notice the trend of griefers scanning OOC for anyone LFG, obviously know where they are based on level range, log on griefers and chase people away from the server?

It's not even a random hunt or real pvp, just griefers scanning OOC for victims.

I can just log on alt, but for people with no alt, they're getting chased away back to blue.

Not to mention any names, so I'll censor, Drist*r, etc

Do these guys sleep?

/vote_for_LFG_tool

yevea
09-30-2014, 01:47 PM
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Don't advertise what zones you are xping in. Don't assume people only PK you because you are lfg. People have specifically leveled and twinked PK alts, that's just how it works.

Regarding being griefed off the server.. I've leveled three characters through CB -> unrest -> MM and been pk'd plenty of times while doing so. If people are being chased off the server from getting pk'd in the early teens, 20s, or even 30s.. i'm not sure they can be convinced to stay.

xblade724
09-30-2014, 01:55 PM
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Don't advertise what zones you are xping in. Don't assume people only PK you because you are lfg. People have specifically leveled and twinked PK alts, that's just how it works.

Regarding being griefed off the server.. I've leveled three characters through CB -> unrest -> MM and been pk'd plenty of times while doing so. If people are being chased off the server from getting pk'd in the early teens, 20s, or even 30s.. i'm not sure they can be convinced to stay.

Lulz, so if you see lvl 20-30 group LFG, it could be ANYWHERE in Norrath right?! Definitely not MM or the only spots you'll ever go if you want any hope in hell of getting a group on this low pop server. No way. Must be upper guk. That's where people group these days. Nah tested it, literally just lingering on mains, ill say group xx-xx lfg and lo and behold, there he is! It's quite obvious.

Kergan
09-30-2014, 01:58 PM
LFG tool would definitely fix this problem.

Not really.

Yumyums Inmahtumtums
09-30-2014, 02:00 PM
So you won't fall for it again? I'm confused.

Also, grief is all in the eyes of the griefee. Shed your mad and makes friends with bad - it's the only way forward.

xblade724
09-30-2014, 02:05 PM
So you won't fall for it again? I'm confused.

Also, grief is all in the eyes of the griefee. Shed your mad and makes friends with bad - it's the only way forward.

Fall for it? Who is confused? Ofc i'm going to keep advertising, solo is boring as hell. Man this forum lacks logic.

Why don't I just play on my own private server with just me? That'll show them !!!

Hell if I just quit games altogether, then he'd never find me!

-___-

Eslade
09-30-2014, 02:05 PM
Don't get me wrong, we need players here but I don't think red is a good fit for you.

Nirgon
09-30-2014, 02:05 PM
Just need item loot for a little while to loot some fungis and cleanse some scum

heartbrand
09-30-2014, 02:08 PM
Just need item loot for a little while to loot some fungis and cleanse some scum

Yumyums Inmahtumtums
09-30-2014, 02:08 PM
AMAZING GROUP FORMING UP IN MM ATM PLEASE SEND TELL

Genedin
09-30-2014, 02:08 PM
Item loot without everyone on dial-up and going LD every so often is not nearly as fun.

Looted some amazing gear training LD people into the guards on rallos zek and twinked out a rogue my first day on server, was glorious.

Concave
09-30-2014, 02:08 PM
implement item loot + make all no drop items PvP lootable

loot mrbrigs' epic

great victory

yevea
09-30-2014, 02:22 PM
Lulz, so if you see lvl 20-30 group LFG, it could be ANYWHERE in Norrath right?! Definitely not MM or the only spots you'll ever go if you want any hope in hell of getting a group on this low pop server. No way. Must be upper guk. That's where people group these days. Nah tested it, literally just lingering on mains, ill say group xx-xx lfg and lo and behold, there he is! It's quite obvious.

It's a valid way to fish. I don't have a solution for you that you are looking for. All I can say is, it's gonna happen. They log in, terrorize the zone for awhile, then eventually leave. If your group all rage quits and never returns.. well, thats the problem. The twinks don't stay logged in all day long.

yevea
09-30-2014, 02:25 PM
Also I can't make this point loudly enough: don't give people who grief you the satisfaction of tears. Don't bitch about them in /o, don't cry about it in /t to them, don't give them that confirmation that they've pushed you to the point of shaking rage. Pvp is going to happen, and EQ pvp is ruthless.

I'm not saying, don't find people to fight back. I'm saying, don't give them the tears that they love collecting so very much.

xblade724
09-30-2014, 02:26 PM
Don't get me wrong, we need players here but I don't think red is a good fit for you.

You are not even a fit for blue with the questions you ask, what're you doing with your life?

Eh and yeah, I just poison him with a few dots and proudly just so happen to disconnect at the moment of zoning! Not sure how that happens. I find it unbelievably satisfying for this to happen vs griefers, I'd even call it counter-griefing. It brings their tears instead.

All the fatties with neckbeards will shun me for it, but really, if it's no-contest I don't even care, QQ at me brah. When I still have banded on my sham vs people with damn epics at lvl 20, all my pride goes out the window.

Who knows, maybe my right hand will be my new gf one day and I'll be as cool as the others with a decked out alt, and ironically telling OTHER People to suck it up. Mind=blown.

Rzaa
09-30-2014, 02:33 PM
Item loot and plugging results in LD on the other side.

Gnomegrown
09-30-2014, 02:52 PM
plays on red99

complains about griefing

lol

Eslade
09-30-2014, 02:55 PM
You are not even a fit for blue with the questions you ask, what're you doing with your life?

Eh and yeah, I just poison him with a few dots and proudly just so happen to disconnect at the moment of zoning! Not sure how that happens. I find it unbelievably satisfying for this to happen vs griefers, I'd even call it counter-griefing. It brings their tears instead.

All the fatties with neckbeards will shun me for it, but really, if it's no-contest I don't even care, QQ at me brah. When I still have banded on my sham vs people with damn epics at lvl 20, all my pride goes out the window.

Who knows, maybe my right hand will be my new gf one day and I'll be as cool as the others with a decked out alt, and ironically telling OTHER People to suck it up. Mind=blown.

Don't know what questions you're talking about but ok? You are always coming to the boards and want something changed. I'm just suggesting that maybe this server isn't your bag. Pvp happens and a lot of it is from twinks. Only way through it is to just endure.

Tldr
Suck it up.

Tradesonred
09-30-2014, 03:46 PM
Same thing can be used against them, i sometimes bait with LFG in crushbone with my twink waiting there for some action.

Unfortunately not many players like me willing to defend noobs in cloth and now im playing archeage so -1 people fighting angry scrubs like Leduke in CB

Most people (like Eslade) dont give 2 shits about things that dont affect them immediately, or actively grief so yea low pop server

The core angry bitter hateful bullying pop of the server is its worst enemy, if were looking at it from a pop growth perspective

Eslade
09-30-2014, 03:56 PM
Same thing can be used against them, i sometimes bait with LFG in crushbone with my twink waiting there for some action.

Unfortunately not many players like me willing to defend noobs in cloth and now im playing archeage so -1 people fighting angry scrubs like Leduke in CB

Most people (like Eslade) dont give 2 shits about things that dont affect them immediately, or actively grief so yea low pop server

The core angry bitter hateful bullying pop of the server is its worst enemy, if were looking at it from a pop growth perspective

I care and I don't go griefing noobs. I spread clericy goodness across norrath if anything. You can't just change the game because you joined a pvp server and you don't like how some people can negatively affect your time. It's harder to level here but the xp bonus is there for a reason. Suck it up and get out of range of the griefers. It's not like we all haven't had to go through it.

dspity
09-30-2014, 04:43 PM
Lessons I've learned on red99.(in no particular order)

Group with people you know, guildies etc.
Don't /ooc what zone your lfg in because griefers will show up.
If someone asks you "what zone" without wsaying level or class, probably a griefer.
If someone asks to join your group ask your group/guild if you've never heard of them. With the small population chances we know their alt.

Hunt in zones that are a pain in the ass to get to if you don't want pvp.

Pvp is more fun than leveling.:eek:
Griefers show up... Grow a pair or move to an obscure zone.

I've made some of the best mm/crush griefers plug by communicating with my group and team work.

Good luck.

Genedin
09-30-2014, 05:21 PM
I've leveled a lot of alts in the past few months. I would always /ooc Lvl 30-40 group LFM
Wait till they send you a tell, are they a notorious newb ganker?

Yes> ignore
No> invite to group

Have group ready for them in case they try to pvp you.

Literally never invited someone to join my group only go have them kill me.

stop crying

Yumyums Inmahtumtums
09-30-2014, 05:25 PM
I've leveled a lot of alts in the past few months. I would always /ooc Lvl 30-40 group LFM
Wait till they send you a tell, are they a notorious newb ganker?

Yes> ignore
No> invite to group

Have group ready for them in case they try to pvp you.

Literally never invited someone to join my group only go have them kill me.

stop crying

I found the flowchart very helpful.

This was basically my levelling strat.

Technique
09-30-2014, 05:38 PM
Why don't I just play on my own private server with just me? That'll show them !!!Please do.

daasgoot
09-30-2014, 05:43 PM
http://i.imgur.com/0eiBedF.png

Sear
09-30-2014, 06:41 PM
I hate it when pvp happens here before level 60


i mean what's the deal w/ that

here I am content to be on hour #842 of my yellow pixel bar progression making sure my 1 key has been pressed, and another player ATTACKS me

unreal

rollin5k
09-30-2014, 07:10 PM
i have noticed this!
most the time are good results, one tip is ask for name if they an alt then look on r99pvp.com see if all their kills are on new name clothies then dont talk to them anymore

Rangerdown
09-30-2014, 07:36 PM
I've had a lot of luck so far being grouped with people who are good enough to get organized and chase the twinks away quite a few times now.... the only thing that bugs me is the plugging. Every fucking time. If your gonna attack people 4 levels below you in your deleveled epic fungi raid buffed gank bot, atleast take your fucking deaths when you get beat.

Drakaris
09-30-2014, 11:13 PM
Man anyone notice the trend of griefers scanning OOC for anyone LFG, obviously know where they are based on level range, log on griefers and chase people away from the server?

It's not even a random hunt or real pvp, just griefers scanning OOC for victims.

I can just log on alt, but for people with no alt, they're getting chased away back to blue.

Not to mention any names, so I'll censor, Drist*r, etc

Do these guys sleep?

/vote_for_LFG_tool

Best thing to do is for the group to change exp zones once the griefers come out of the woodwork, just make friends with porters who you trust (ones that wont port you into Plane of Hate or some other griefy location or tell the griefers where you are headed). There are just so many places to exp that are empty and zones where no one will think to look with places you can bind nearby - Kurns (can bind in Kaesora), Dalnir (Can bind outside OT outpost or cab), Nurga (easy pulls and safe area with no pats @ spider caves, can bind outside OT outpost), Kaesora (kills OT faction but good ZEM and decent drops), Kedge Keep (with EB items, can be a safe exp spot) etc...

Not everyone has to exp in CoM, MM and Unrest...

xblade724
10-01-2014, 02:55 AM
Same thing can be used against them, i sometimes bait with LFG in crushbone with my twink waiting there for some action.

Unfortunately not many players like me willing to defend noobs in cloth and now im playing archeage so -1 people fighting angry scrubs like Leduke in CB

Most people (like Eslade) dont give 2 shits about things that dont affect them immediately, or actively grief so yea low pop server

The core angry bitter hateful bullying pop of the server is its worst enemy, if were looking at it from a pop growth perspective

oh this is hilarious , I need to get full group aware then be like "28 sham lfg mm, just me hoping to get more" then boom, entire group on them.

But yea griefers (epics with 200mr, fungi, nihil gear at lvl 20) is NOT standard PvP and should have it's own term when talking about it. that's like playing ff8 and using your gem at level 1 to fight that optional demon boss: no chance , not even called a fight.

But yea it is true they come and go very fast. It's just sucks I'm on Taiwan time so the 24/7 neckbeards just "camp" ooc. Hard enough getting group. But they come and go, as long as I have my alts I'm happy. Just let me rage a bit, Damn! Lol.

Bazia
10-01-2014, 03:18 AM
pvp is not grief

georgie
10-01-2014, 03:18 AM
not classic bye

Agatha
10-01-2014, 08:04 AM
eh, guilds like FoH(now defunct) and knights templar are a scourge on this server, parking 5 SK's in fungis and oggok cleavers and the like at MM,lguk, and unrest is not pvp, it is very much grief.

my friends have spent millions of plat to park comparable toons at these grief hotspots to protect them. unfortunately we can't be around all the time. I have personally watched Knights templar spend entire days logging in every 30 minutes to check the zone for weeks now for low lvl grps in rags to slay.

This is one of the biggests problems this server faces today, people feeding on the weak, driving population down. there is to big of an experience/gear gap, most of these new players don't even know how to plug.

This server should care about such things, should police itself, and should cast out the people some known and some not that do these things.

mitic
10-01-2014, 08:09 AM
eh, guilds like FoH(now defunct) and knights templar are a scourge on this server, parking 5 SK's in fungis and oggok cleavers and the like at MM,lguk, and unrest is not pvp, it is very much grief.

my friends have spent millions of plat to park comparable toons at these grief hotspots to protect them. unfortunately we can't be around all the time. I have personally watched Knights templar spend entire days logging in every 30 minutes to check the zone for weeks now for low lvl grps in rags to slay.

This is one of the biggests problems this server faces today, people feeding on the weak, driving population down. there is to big of an experience/gear gap, most of these new players don't even know how to plug.

This server should care about such things, should police itself, and should cast out the people some known and some not that do these things.

There is an easy solution for all of this. Hopefully nilbog will make the right decision sooner than later.

Agatha
10-01-2014, 08:20 AM
There is an easy solution for all of this. Hopefully nilbog will make the right decision sooner than later.

there is no reason for server staff to step in, nor do i think they should. I feel any alteration of polcy will just end up in more rule lawyering hurting the server more.


I think the solution lays in ourselves, and to stop playing and harboring and effectively enabling these guys. Until we can do that, we will be doomed to repeat.

mitic
10-01-2014, 08:23 AM
there is no reason for server staff to step in, nor do i think they should. I feel any alteration of polcy will just end up in more rule lawyering hurting the server more.


I think the solution lays in ourselves, and to stop playing and harboring and effectively enabling these guys. Until we can do that, we will be doomed to repeat.

ok, I make it more clear: wipe it.

mitic
10-01-2014, 08:39 AM
To make it even more clear: those neckbeards who raised already countless toons, maxed them and acquired all gear they needed are at a point where there is nothing else to do than twinking out even more toons to the max and pvp at lower levels when all bosses are down for a week.

This and various other reasons, foremost the incredibly low pop justifies a server wipe. We are not here for progression, fuck velious, we are here to pvp else we would play on blue.

I played some hours yesterday with my wizard who's bound at the pots. Was zoning and porting every 2 minutes into different zones all over norrath and loged off after disgusted how empty the whole world is. And now we want velious? Fuck velious, seriously.

Kergan
10-01-2014, 11:07 AM
Not sure if I am allowed to FQ against former Nihilum or what? Must dispatch word to the Duke to get clarification.

'Cause some of the shit Mitic is saying is like...yeah.

Gnomegrown
10-01-2014, 11:24 AM
eh, guilds like FoH(now defunct) and knights templar are a scourge on this server, parking 5 SK's in fungis and oggok cleavers and the like at MM,lguk, and unrest is not pvp, it is very much grief.

my friends have spent millions of plat to park comparable toons at these grief hotspots to protect them. unfortunately we can't be around all the time. I have personally watched Knights templar spend entire days logging in every 30 minutes to check the zone for weeks now for low lvl grps in rags to slay.

This is one of the biggests problems this server faces today, people feeding on the weak, driving population down. there is to big of an experience/gear gap, most of these new players don't even know how to plug.

This server should care about such things, should police itself, and should cast out the people some known and some not that do these things.

I am currently playing eq2 on nagafen server and this is the exact reason the server is extremely low population, you can level lock and get very very overpowered gear in every slot and park your char in a dungeon for that range, griefers rape people leveling, they go back to a blue server.

Gnomegrown
10-01-2014, 11:25 AM
ok, I make it more clear: wipe it.

I guess since your velious dkp is gone now your on the wipe crew

anyone got a picture of nizzars tent? I bet it has multiple zippers

:)

mitic
10-01-2014, 11:58 AM
I guess since your velious dkp is gone now your on the wipe crew

anyone got a picture of nizzars tent? I bet it has multiple zippers

:)

dkp is for the weak & crybabies. iam to hardcore to care about dkp. I just play the game and get what I want sooner or later.