Real Talk - 100% truth; Nothxu's Name and Shame

[Ebonchi]

The dominoes have been put into motion.

1. Chooch took Nothxu's stuff - I admit to being a total dirt bag.
2. Nothxu never shared his account's information, he was indeed hacked. He never gave his account info to me.
3. There are NO rules against taking someone's gear on this server - a point reiterated by the GMs.
4. Despite violating NO RULES the account that has the items is banned, was banned immediately, and remains banned to this day.
5. Despite rumors, none of the items have been moved off of that banned account by my hand - see above, the account is banned.

Nothxu, I apologize for being a dick, I apologize for not telling you the whole truth (basically a lie), and I apologize for doing something horrible to someone undeserving. You were never meant to be put in this situation and you are a damn good guy.

I would double check the fact your AoN may have been sold to Gyno. I think you can read between the lines here and what that would mean if it were true...

So, people who play this server: Nothxu's account was indeed hacked and the perpetrator's account was banned. If no rules were broken, why would the account be banned? If the account is banned, why is Nothxu not getting a restore? More troubling, how is it possible for gear on a banned account to be sold to another player?

Enjoy.

[Jenni D]

Smells like....bullshit yo!!

Nice try mind you

[Ebonchi]

No, it's really legit.

[Agatha]

someone just logged chooch's character and said it was him on the forums.

[Ebonchi]

^^ QFT

[Sear]

thanks

I was very concerned about this issue and am glad you released a novel about it

knowing is half the battle

[Not Salem]

who is chooch?

[Agatha]

who is chooch?

dunno honestly lol.

[Clark]

thanks

I was very concerned about this issue and am glad you released a novel about it

knowing is half the battle

[magician]

chooch, you turned out to be a real faggot. thank you.

[mostbitter]

I think the staff just got caught lying their asses off to the community. I imagine that nothing will happen anyway cus they just don't feel like it. After all you played for the wrong team in their eyes.

[Casey VII]

I remember shitting on Chooch with my alt at aviaks when he was like level 25 and he ranted to me about how he was going to be a big shot here.

[Sektor]

Was guilded with chooch he's a major scumbag not shocked at all.

[Ebonchi]

I think the staff just got caught lying their asses off to the community. I imagine that nothing will happen anyway cus they just don't feel like it. After all you played for the wrong team in their eyes.

My deception was targeting Nihilum and Nizzar. I expected the server staff to play a role, but not like this. As much as I dislike Azrael, and Lite for that matter, Lite has made some good points on inequality of this server. This inequality continues to this day but now in a much different capacity.

Let's talk equality: GMs should not be allowed to play on the same server they GM - period. The blatant favoritism has to stop. The inequality has gone on for far too long. The hip shot case-by-case rule enforcement has to stop.

[Kergan]

My deception was targeting Nihilum and Nizzar. I expected the server staff to play a role, but not like this. As much as I dislike Azrael, and Lite for that matter, Lite has made some good points on inequality of this server. This inequality continues to this day but now in a much different capacity.

Let's talk equality: GMs should not be allowed to play on the same server they GM - period. The blatant favoritism has to stop. The inequality has gone on for far too long. The hip shot case-by-case rule enforcement has to stop.

you dum

[Ebonchi]

you dum

you blind.

[Mac Drettj]

need prof

[Ebonchi]

Me: Hi, I broke no posted rules and had my account banned.
Account Name: xxxxxx
How long is my account banned for?
Eunomia (Senior Server Guide): For GM - Related threads:
https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=158481
https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=158466
Me: Guys, really? No one else has been permanently banned for similar circumstances.
Eunomia (Senior Server Guide): What circumstance?
me: banned and not violated GM's posted rules; no feedback on why; no information for how long
Derubael (Server GM): That account was banned for taking all the gear off someone else's account. They petitioned that all their gear was removed, and someone banned your account to lock it down before the stuff could be moved around more.
Me: How long is the ban? And how is that against the rules?
Rogean has stated sharing an account/info is at your own risk.
This has happened repeatedly on this server, why are the other offenders allowed to continue playing?
Derubael (Server GM): We issue bans on a case-by-case basis. It's not "ok" to just take someones items, and bans have been handed out in the past for account strips on both blue and red, though yes - the policy is more lax on red.
I didn't issue your ban so I don't know what led to the lock down, but I'm surprised that you're taken aback by being banned for stealing. Just because we tell people to share account information at their own risk doesn't mean you can do whatever you want with someones account.
For right now the ban is until we've finished investigating the issue. What else is on the account aside from the stolen items?
Me: Valid points. As far as being taken aback, its because I KNOW this has happened numerous times without punishment. Just like others have RMTd, reported it w/ proof, and nothing has happened to them. It's rooted in the punishment depends on who is effected.
What else is on the account? Other characters.
Me: Derubael, what additional information is required for the investigation and to resolve the ban duration?
I'm asking because it has been a few weeks. I realize all of you donate your time to this server, which I am thankful for. Just wondering if there is any additional information you need.
Me: For the record, I did not take all the gear off someone else's account. However, I did take some.
Me: Any updates?
Derubael: Indeed. We won't be unbanning the account.
me: Hi, please unban the account so i can give the items back.


http://i.imgur.com/Vp0kBTR.png?1

[heartbrand]

Seems kind of dumb to not let him give the items back unless it's to prove a point about account sharing. However, I think the policy about sharing is misguided given the two boxing ban and small player base. Shrug. I think at the end of the day the question should be, will more harm than good be done by restoring the items? I think the answer here is, no.

[Ebonchi]

Goes back to this:


So, people who play this server: Nothxu's account was indeed hacked and the perpetrator's account was banned. If no rules were broken, why would the account be banned? If the account is banned, why is Nothxu not getting a restore? More troubling, how is it possible for gear on a banned account to be sold to another player?

How can new guilds truly ever thrive and compete when enforcement of rules is selective and biased?

[Infectious]

He gave out his info, got stripped and they ban him. LOL i hope you arent giving his items back.

[Ebonchi]

He gave out his info, got stripped and they ban him. LOL i hope you arent giving his items back.

Seriously, he didn't give me his account information.

[Bazia]

love the GMs and faggots like you are why they don't even want to bother to help red

[Colgate]

luv how he's only sorry when he gets caught and banned

stop trying to victimize yourself when you did something obviously very scummy

[Ebonchi]

You are daft. Nothxu is the victim.

The selective enforcement is what needs to be addressed. You of all people should see that Nihilum got many passes.

[Ebonchi]

I think the staff just got caught lying their asses off to the community. I imagine that nothing will happen anyway cus they just don't feel like it. After all you played for the wrong team in their eyes.

^^

[Colgate]

so what is your argument exactly? that you shouldn't be banned because the GMs have a policy stating not to share your account information? so you bruteforced his account information? so somehow that means you shouldn't be banned? but now you're sorry about it and we should be on your side?

haha bye loser, glad you got banned

[heartbrand]

I think his argument isn't be should be unbanned but that nothxu should get the items back because it was due to a brute force attempt and not due to account sharing. Personally this seems like bullshit because how did he even get the account name? Also, derubael noted that nothxu had shares info before (something I can confirm as I saw others play him in nihilum).

[Clark]

I think the point you're missing is that server history has a lot of issues with consistency but it also has had many changes in staff. Amelinda's entire reign was fraught with complete biased corruption. In light of that, the GM's are NOW trying to be consistent in how they apply the rules. Clearly the policies have changed over the life of the server but i believe they are trying to make a standard set of rules with standardized responses using precedents.

You were mistaken when you thought that stripping an account was legal just because the victim was not given GM support in the form of their items back. Sometimes when crime happens there is a punishment for the criminal and no recourse for the victim, Enron much?

Did not know you but holy shit are you scummy as fuck. Good riddence, pras the GM's, hopefully Derupal and Sirkdawg can find it in their hearts to redeem the items for Nothxu.

[georgie]

I was expecting agatha

[Eslade]

LOL to this whole thread. Likelihood of someone just randomly brute forcing an account are so small it's not even funny. Both parties are guilty. One for being a scum bag and the other for giving his info to a scum bag.

[Ebonchi]

Sorry to disappoint.

Again, Nothxu didn't deserve this. Regardless what many of you believe, Nothxu did not share his account information with me. At the time of this occurring Nothxu wasn't playing and was being used by Nizzar. This was meant to blow over before Nothxu returned to playing.

My actions were to position Nizzar as the fall guy and work at Nihilum from the inside. Should that fall flat, I planned to expose the server for what it is.

I was at the end with Nizzar and the path Nihilum was on, which were clearly enabled by other hands. I viewed the efficacy of my actions as netting results either way. Subsequently, when the opportunity presented itself, I took it. My only regret was hurting a good guy.

I believe Emperor Heartbrand had it right. His convictions ran deep as he started Red Dawn and dealt the final blow to the Duke.

Let's play a trivia:
True or False: GMs have had active characters in Nihilum?
True or False: Nihilum RMTd inside and outside of the guild?
And now the million dollar question: was Nothxu's AoN truly sold to Gyno? If so, how? Hopefully Gyno was just trolling...

[Agatha]

everyone thought jupe hacked another account noone was speaking to me for days up until this point lol.

edit: would not strip another character without good reason, like gaining leverage to get back another persons gear(see the tarran incident).

double edit: most of the accnt names match peoples forum names in nihilum, can confirm.

[Infectious]

So nothxu shared his info with nizzar, you got his info from nizzar and robbed his shit. Still sharing info. May his items rot in peace

[Thrilla]

Nothxu still not restored until this day, but a year ago Mellow shared his account info with somebody and that information was passed off to somebody else, that person decided to delete the character

All of Mellow's items were restored, within 1-2 weeks in addition to getting GM summoned nodrop items he never looted at raids such as Crown of Rile + Ancient Shissar Gauntlets, because he lied to GM's and GM's never cared to double check he ran around with those items for months bagging them whenever he thought somebody would inspect him.

Recently this same thing happened to Trav's char, did anybody restore that? course not and their non-action with Nothxu who is a good guy is just another reason why this emu will never gain any real steam.

GM's here are way too into the server politics and hands on when they don't need to be, and completely hands off when they should be or very selective with the consistency of their actions. Not classic, but we're on their box.

[Bazia]

love the gms

[Sektor]

Good post Thrilla

[Aenor]

Still no comment from Tina.

[Kergan]

This situation is just dumb. There is no EULA or other bullshit the staff here has to abide by, they can do whatever they want. I think it is pretty clear the right thing to do is ban this piece of shit Ebonchi and give Nothxu his items back.

Stop rule lawyering a way to be a complete dickface.

[Infectious]

Not classic, you're ruining my fuckin immersion. Giving back items by gms is some 2014 care bear bullshit. According time line, its 2001. #notclassic

[Burgerking]

The other guy confessed

[Ebonchi]

Not classic, you're ruining my fuckin immersion.

Open your eyes. If you want immersion we need change.

[abacab-101]

LOL to this whole thread. Likelihood of someone just randomly brute forcing an account are so small it's not even funny.

No lol.

What's his name Phib? Cracked Rogean's Comcast password at the very start of P99; because Rogean's security question was "favorite football team" and the answer as he's stated in threads multiple times was the "New England patriots"

Phib used that to datamine some info and crack some low-level GM accounts this was back in 2009-2010.

Also bruteforcing your passwords isn't even hard, everytime you log in my servers I get info about you which includes your IP, EQEMU login name, and other information; if I were dedicated and ran some scripts I could probably bruteforce your passwords in a week tops; given that your usernames are stupid fucking simple I'd only assume your passwords are too.

[Kergan]

Yikes I'm afraid to log into an abacab box now. :(

[Sektor]

Would never log on to his box anyways.

[Nirgon]

Not classic, you're ruining my fuckin immersion. Giving back items by gms is some 2014 care bear bullshit. According time line, its 2001. #notclassic

Goltana got stolen items back on RZ from GM. So did Silverfalcon.

[HippoNipple]

Yikes I'm afraid to log into an abacab box now. :(

Yeah, opening a server and trying to promote it while admitting on the same forums that you keep track of everyone's log in name if they log onto your server is not a good idea.

[abacab-101]

Yeah, opening a server and trying to promote it while admitting on the same forums that you keep track of everyone's log in name if they log onto your server is not a good idea.

That's how databases work dawg, Rogean has all of your information from any server you've logged into on the EQEMU list, if you've played on Devnoob or Salty's box they also have all of your information.

The database has to log your IP and account name so it knows who is who when you load up toons.

I'm willing to bet that any job you've applied for through the icims system has your DOB, driver's license number, SSN, address and phone number back logged into it's database even if they are several years old, meaning that computer gig you applied to at Best Buy when you were 18? You know that one from 2004? It has all of your contact information.

[Kergan]

It scares me when you make me aware of things though. Next thing you're gonna tell me is my credit card number is in the computer.

[abacab-101]

Would never log on to his box anyways.

Why not? Is it because I won't #summon you Vulak gear in exchange for $10? I mean I guess that's why you won't play, it's not as fun when everyone is equally geared and you can't drop your entire paycheck on pixels for a decisive advantage.

[abacab-101]

It scares me when you make me aware of things though. Next thing you're gonna tell me is my credit card number is in the computer.

Think of it this way, every company with 101+ people probably has a DBA who manages their oracle EBS systems which includes their icims hiring accounts; if that dude decided to say "fuck it I quit" he could probably export the job profiles and account information of thousands of people; that includes all sorts of information (SSN for applicants, CC info for customers) and he could hock that data on black hat websites for $5-10 per user.

A large database with 500,000 unique names and ID's would fetch upwards of millions on the black market if all that data was there and intact, as the identity theft racket would rake in $$$ with that information...

Granted the dude that lifted this info would probably have to go into hiding for a bit, but with a couple million, I'm sure he can relax fine in some island in the pacific no problem.

[Eslade]

Ok, I retract my statement. You people need to stop naming your accounts after your characters. I always thought that was obvious but apparently there's a lot of people that are new to the interwebs here.

[Kergan]

My account name is my social security number is that better?

[Eslade]

My account name is my social security number is that better?

http://images.wisegeek.com/boy-with-downs-syndrome-giving-thumbs-up.jpg

[Gnomegrown]

whole thread is full of shit honestly

I think both should be banned for wasting staffs time and scumbaggery.

[Genedin]

I think you'd be surprised how many companies don't have a DBA or use oracle that are 100+ people..... or even have a real IT guy. Fuck it amazes me how many places I deal with stay in business.

But that's cool and horrifying information.

[Gnomegrown]

Think of it this way, every company with 101+ people probably has a DBA who manages their oracle EBS systems which includes their icims hiring accounts; if that dude decided to say "fuck it I quit" he could probably export the job profiles and account information of thousands of people; that includes all sorts of information (SSN for applicants, CC info for customers) and he could hock that data on black hat websites for $5-10 per user.

A large database with 500,000 unique names and ID's would fetch upwards of millions on the black market if all that data was there and intact, as the identity theft racket would rake in $$$ with that information...

Granted the dude that lifted this info would probably have to go into hiding for a bit, but with a couple million, I'm sure he can relax fine in some island in the pacific no problem.

you can buy dumps online with all that info for 5 or 10 dollars for thousands of identities, I think your numbers are way off.

[Kergan]

I think you'd be surprised how many companies don't have a DBA or use oracle that are 100+ people..... or even have a real IT guy. Fuck it amazes me how many places I deal with stay in business.

But that's cool and horrifying information.

Oracle sucks ass. As a network person I hate it more then anything else I've ever hated. I've never seen software that shits the bed so easily with even a slight latency spike.

[Genedin]

That's because you aren't Indian.

[Sirken]

this entire thread is a perfect summary of the red server in 60 posts or less.

http://static.gamespot.com/uploads/original/108/1085618/2454423-1664568646-colbe.gif

[Kergan]

That's because you aren't Indian.

Thanks? I think.

Our Oracle DBA is a chick from the Ukraine.

[aborted]

Its funny how you play with someone for a year on a 15 year old elf sim, then soon as they get your account info, people get the pixel virus... Why the fuck do people act like this on shit that won't matter in a year or two.

[Tradesonred]

Its funny how you play with someone for a year on a 15 year old elf sim, then soon as they get your account info, people get the pixel virus... Why the fuck do people act like this on shit that won't matter in a year or two.

No conscience, no problem

I would be uneasy being in the same room with people like Littlegyno and rellapse and other cold fish sociopaths, no shit, got some real fucked up creeps lurking about here

[Kergan]

Its funny how you play with someone for a year on a 15 year old elf sim, then soon as they get your account info, people get the pixel virus... Why the fuck do people act like this on shit that won't matter in a year or two.

Come back and play some bro! I will hook you up with a level 60 np if you don't wanna play your mage.

Trust you with my infos nameen?

[Genedin]

Thanks? I think.

Our Oracle DBA is a chick from the Ukraine.

But still not American.

I wish I was an oracle DBA. I would buy a boat.

[Kergan]

But still not American.

I wish I was an oracle DBA. I would buy a boat.

Meh, the last two companies I've been at they have been the same pay grade as I was. Not worth working with shitty software that is breaking every 15 seconds.

[Mac Drettj]

My account name is my social security number is that better?

U can trust me w pixels and ssn

[Derubael]

1) Nothxu gave you info to another one of his accounts, and that was how you 'hacked' into his main account.

2) No, you can't just swipe shit off other peoples accounts. Why would this be ok? Go read the section of the PnP covering fraud. It has broad sweeping definitions left purposely vague so that it covers situations like this

3) Gyno doesn't have nothxu's AoN, he was trolling.

4) GM's can't play characters on either server. Neither myself nor Sirken ever had toons on Red guilded in any major guild.

5) Bullshit like this is the reason why I've stopped offering CSR support for Red except for item poofs/database look-ups. It's not worth putting up with anymore when every decision we make turns into a shitshow, even when following policy.

To all the legitimate people on Red 99, you still have CSR support from our Guides and Sirken, you just won't see me around.

If nothxu is still around, I'll talk with Sirken about getting his stuff back that you stole. Ultimately I'm going to leave it up to him, so that you can all flame him for the decision.