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qwerty
09-19-2014, 06:46 PM
was debating on rolling a sk and coming back to game. was thinking about troll for regen and slam but what are everyones opinions out there? any trolls out there not like being so big? curious how much of a pain it is to be a troll in dungeons

applesauce25r624
09-20-2014, 01:37 AM
curious how much of a pain it is to be a troll in dungeons

Only a few dungeons suck. Whatever anyways. You can block hallways to piss off the plebs.

Ogres and trolls kick large portions of ass. And they're not afraid to scratch them either. Every few seconds ;D

Issar
09-20-2014, 01:39 AM
I played an iksar on live, and it was my favorite toon. The only thing I didn't like was not having bash while wielding 2 handers (pre epic or aa's). That being said, I play a troll shaman and love it. Being a big race is annoying in some areas, but you get used to it. The payoff comes in the form of great stats in relative comparison to all other races, less an Ogre, regen, and most importantly, the most beautiful race of Norrath.

Jauna
09-20-2014, 09:32 AM
Ogre if you wanna be a badass tank that always has to carry around shrink potions or make friends with a shaman
Troll if you wanna be super awesome but be one of the slowest levelers in the game
Dark Elf if you wanna be pretty
Erudite/Human if you want to be... special.
Gnome if you want to be not classic

kaev
09-20-2014, 03:08 PM
Only Human has the porn 'stache, two models to choose from!

mtb tripper
09-20-2014, 03:31 PM
erudite makes a good solo sk

holsteinrx7
09-20-2014, 06:07 PM
ogre or bust. alternatively iksar.

Deldanko
09-23-2014, 12:05 PM
Iksar or bust. Alternatively Ogre. =)

Lowlife
10-04-2014, 01:13 PM
Iksar, you got robe of azure sky or whatever, throwing boulders, forage, ur not fat, superior velious AC, stone of morid or whatever its called, greenmist, and regen

ogre and iksar are the master race SKs, but imho iksar pulls ahead in pvp

Pheer
10-05-2014, 12:50 AM
Ogre is best right now and arguably in velious too imo, but gear options for iksar opens up in velious and the gap between them and ogres right now closes significantly

Troll is kind of like a hybrid between ogre and iksar:

higher str/sta than iksar but lower than ogre
slam but no stun immunity
regen but no ac bonus

Ogre will be able to channel spells through mob melee easily, can really save your life to get off some clutch lifetaps at times.

Iksar and troll regen could be pretty awesome in velious if you can get your hands on a Soul Defiler (http://wiki.project1999.com/Soul_Defiler) since the regen will offset the health drain from call of bones. Kind of irrelevant since theres so many chanters to group with/get a c2 from, but a nice little bit of utility if a situation calls for it.

Also troll size won't be an issue once Shroud of Undeath (http://wiki.project1999.com/Shroud_of_Undeath) becomes available, though that will be quite awhile after velious launch. Shrink pots arent too expensive either.

Also always to note is that all three have massive exp penalties, but I believe ogre's is slightly lower than iksar and troll.

Daldaen
10-05-2014, 01:31 AM
Also worth noting for Iksar... Greenmist (http://wiki.project1999.com/Greenmist), which is Iksar only in Velious (and is released in late Velious).

25 MR primary, 18DMG/22Delay, Procs lifedrain DoT... it is an excellent 1hander for tanking hard merbs.

Pheer
10-05-2014, 02:10 AM
Also worth noting for Iksar... Greenmist (http://wiki.project1999.com/Greenmist), which is Iksar only in Velious (and is released in late Velious).

25 MR primary, 18DMG/22Delay, Procs lifedrain DoT... it is an excellent 1hander for tanking hard merbs.

Also the pain lord's khukri can be obtained in game right now I believe, so Iksar SKs may be able to attain a bit higher MR than other SK races. Not sure if it evens out with iksars being unable to wear shit like mithril etc., but Iksar's can wear robe of the azure sky as well so I would imagine in full theoretical best in slot MR gear they'd probably edge out ogre/troll still.

Brut
10-05-2014, 06:48 AM
Seems like dok revamp was a month before Luclin release, so dunno maybe it'll be out.
Yelinak drops a better ratio weapon anyway! DPSK!

Daldaen
10-05-2014, 09:06 AM
Seems like dok revamp was a month before Luclin release, so dunno maybe it'll be out.
Yelinak drops a better ratio weapon anyway! DPSK!

How does 14/21 out DPS 18/22. There are multiple posts on Greenmist being solved inbetween the Chardok revamp and Luclin release. They all confirm its Iksar only as well.

Edit: ahh I was looking at pre-revamp stats.

Brut
10-05-2014, 11:04 AM
Yea, you just need revamped Dok since there's a quest piece dropping there. Was a question mark for a long time in discussions if we'd get revamps or not, but guess we will.

Did the Greenmist quest on some velious-stuck emu server once and hardly equipped the thing, so many awesome 2handers come out in Velious. /burp

tumbleweedking
11-13-2014, 10:23 AM
Have to go with DE... better to look good than be good.

Zapatos
11-13-2014, 03:34 PM
Iksar not being able to use mithril arms/legs isn't a big deal. They still get dreadscale greaves for mr and the 25mr lord of pain khukri whereas non iksar can only get 10mr in their primary slot. The only bummer is not being able to use the imbued granite spaulders like dark elves.

My own lizard hits 207 mr unbuffed... and I don't have the stupid high end stuff like a cloak of piety, crown of rile, dragon hero bracers or water dragon shield that would raise my unbuffed MR up to.. 235 I think? Pft I should've played that character more when I had the time.