Raid Scene Proposal

[Colgate]

With guilds like Holocaust, Blaze, and Eternal Light starting to field 15+ members regularly for raids and each guild continuing recruitment, it is only a short matter of time until there will be competition over the end game raid mobs. I am proposing the following things to keep the atmosphere away from becoming anything similar to what it was with Nihilum running the show. My aim is to keep the raid scene relatively casual, civil, and fun. I'd like this to be an open brainstorm session, and I'd like people to refrain from shitting this thread up and perpetuating the issues that this server currently has.

- Agreements not to over-recruit. Every single raid mob in the game can be killed with 4 or fewer groups. When your guild begins exceeding say 30 people at each raid, stop recruiting entirely. Numbers will naturally go down over time, and if they don't, I'm willing to bet that there is always a person or two in every guild that deserves to be kicked out. Nothing was worse than before where, at times, the only competition between Azrael and Nihilum was who could recruit more new players and sustain those numbers week after week. In the long run, this should lead to new guilds forming and even more chaos when several guilds are competing for the same mob(s), while lowering the chance that one single guild will monopolize content.

- Spread raid mob timers far apart to more reasonable times. This one is mostly directed at Azrael, considering they have all the important raid mobs on lockdown right now. Regardless of how you guys feel, a majority of the server does not want to wake up before noon on a Sunday. My idea would be to spread Venril Sathir, Phara Dar, Severilous, Innoruuk, and Cazic-Thule to different days entirely, and try to keep them in a more primetime slot. These are the only mobs that most of the raid scene cares about, and keeping them all on one day only promotes a winner-take-all environment that existed with Nihilum around. I think we all know that whoever won that Venril Sathir fight on repop day took every single raid mob thereafter 19 out of 20 times. When one side loses, many people often get demoralized and log off for the day, and then they have to wait 6 more days until they get another shot at any of the mobs they care to fight over. I believe that having the important raid mobs several different days of the week will keep more people logging in even if they lost the previous fight. It will create far more opportunities for mass PvP, thus lowering the odds that one guild will keep everything on lockdown.

- Keep it civil both in-game and on the forums. This will not only benefit the raid scene, but server population in general. Controlling your members who want to spam /ooc, shit up the forums, grief people on twinks, etc. will keep more newbies interested in leveling up to join us at the endgame. For instance, after mass pvp over a raid mob happens, the winning guild should kill the NPC, then offer to rez the opposing side's clerics and allow them to clear out. People should be cordial and not constantly give the community insight into whatever personality/social disorder they're currently suffering. Following this philosophy will allow us to police the server ourselves instead of relying on petitionquest every single day. If a guild foregoes this idea and decides that they'd rather act like pieces of shit, then the rest of us can make a concentrated effort to treat them like pieces of shit.

It's time to become men about it pals.

[Pikrib]

Add no raiding on Sunday and Monday night so we don't piss off the football gods.

[lite]

Azrael has yet to raid with more than 30 players, and recruitment is closed. As far as spreading mobs apart ... There's tons of mobs spawning throughout the week which is a million times better than waht you could have asked for a month ago. The primary ones are going to continue to die the same day until you do something about it. With the main guild only raiding with 30 and less, you should get to work asap.

[lite]

just to clarify, yes. recruitment should be closed when you start to hit 30 and over, as we have.

[Kergan]

Was very happy to see /who all Blaze with a list cut short last night. I know a decent chunk are in range of 60s too. Not sure what they were up to but hopefully a planar run or killing one of the dragons that were still up. We took out some sky bosses. Azrael killed Gore. Plenty of PVP all over the box.

Population is there to support 4 guilds if people stay in the 20s for max raid size. If there was ever a time to set aside grudges in the past now would be it. This could quite literally be the last chance this server has to inspire organic growth.

[Mac Drettj]

<07:46:50> "Cwall / Colgate":
[Sun Sep 07 09:46:29 2014] Players on EverQuest:
[Sun Sep 07 09:46:29 2014] ---------------------------
[Sun Sep 07 09:46:29 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Elspeth
[Sun Sep 07 09:46:29 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Puvien
[Sun Sep 07 09:46:29 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Imabeast
[Sun Sep 07 09:46:29 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Spiritual <Eternal Light>
[Sun Sep 07 09:46:29 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Imago
[Sun Sep 07 09:46:29 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Complexity
[Sun Sep 07 09:46:29 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Jibeknn
[Sun Sep 07 09:46:29 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Redd
[Sun Sep 07 09:46:29 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Roberto
[Sun Sep 07 09:46:29 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Stoc
[Sun Sep 07 09:46:29 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Samsung <Eternal Light>
[Sun Sep 07 09:46:29 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Crypt
[Sun Sep 07 09:46:29 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Jezibell
[Sun Sep 07 09:46:29 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Gaanon
[Sun Sep 07 09:46:29 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Sheriffen
[Sun Sep 07 09:46:29 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Guido
[Sun Sep 07 09:46:29 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Coat
[Sun Sep 07 09:46:29 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Deluxee
[Sun Sep 07 09:46:29 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Salem <Antarctica The Polymorphess>
[Sun Sep 07 09:46:29 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Willy
[Sun Sep 07 09:46:29 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Afflict
[Sun Sep 07 09:46:29 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Larsen
[Sun Sep 07 09:46:29 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Knife
[Sun Sep 07 09:46:29 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Twerk
[Sun Sep 07 09:46:29 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Digital
[Sun Sep 07 09:46:29 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Wisdikin <Red>
[Sun Sep 07 09:46:29 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Rockem
[Sun Sep 07 09:46:29 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Lemonjelly
[Sun Sep 07 09:46:29 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Vituss
[Sun Sep 07 09:46:29 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Tobe
[Sun Sep 07 09:46:29 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Oppressor
[Sun Sep 07 09:46:29 2014] There are 31 players in Karnor's Castle.

7am pst

[Kergan]

Azrael has yet to raid with more than 30 players, and recruitment is closed. As far as spreading mobs apart ... There's tons of mobs spawning throughout the week which is a million times better than waht you could have asked for a month ago. The primary ones are going to continue to die the same day until you do something about it. With the main guild only raiding with 30 and less, you should get to work asap.

So in other words, no thanks to Colgate's proposal(s).

Thanks for your input.

[Mac Drettj]

Sunday

[Colgate]

Azrael has yet to raid with more than 30 players, and recruitment is closed. As far as spreading mobs apart ... There's tons of mobs spawning throughout the week which is a million times better than waht you could have asked for a month ago. The primary ones are going to continue to die the same day until you do something about it. With the main guild only raiding with 30 and less, you should get to work asap.

so you're suggesting i either:

mass recruit to where if anything spawns on a weekday we'll have well over 40-50 people

or

somehow convince all these people that don't/can't play on sundays to log in anyway?

this is the exact response nizzar and nihilum gave: "you know the timers, come do something about it" to which people in azrael said pretty much what i'm saying right now

how do you not see that?

[heartbrand]

actually ended up being 33 @ that VS

[Andis]

The primary ones are going to continue to die the same day until you do something about it. With the main guild only raiding with 30 and less, you should get to work asap.

[lite]

actually ended up being 33 @ that VS

29.

[heartbrand]

29.

yet few posts above showing 31

[lite]

29 . recruitment closed, get to work.

[Andis]

so you're suggesting i either:

mass recruit to where if anything spawns on a weekday we'll have well over 40-50 people



interesting, your first instinct isnt to bring 30

its to bring 50

very interedastingg

[heartbrand]

<07:46:50> "Cwall / Colgate":
[Sun Sep 07 09:46:29 2014] Players on EverQuest:
[Sun Sep 07 09:46:29 2014] ---------------------------
[Sun Sep 07 09:46:29 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Elspeth
[Sun Sep 07 09:46:29 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Puvien
[Sun Sep 07 09:46:29 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Imabeast
[Sun Sep 07 09:46:29 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Spiritual <Eternal Light>
[Sun Sep 07 09:46:29 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Imago
[Sun Sep 07 09:46:29 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Complexity
[Sun Sep 07 09:46:29 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Jibeknn
[Sun Sep 07 09:46:29 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Redd
[Sun Sep 07 09:46:29 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Roberto
[Sun Sep 07 09:46:29 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Stoc
[Sun Sep 07 09:46:29 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Samsung <Eternal Light>
[Sun Sep 07 09:46:29 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Crypt
[Sun Sep 07 09:46:29 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Jezibell
[Sun Sep 07 09:46:29 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Gaanon
[Sun Sep 07 09:46:29 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Sheriffen
[Sun Sep 07 09:46:29 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Guido
[Sun Sep 07 09:46:29 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Coat
[Sun Sep 07 09:46:29 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Deluxee
[Sun Sep 07 09:46:29 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Salem <Antarctica The Polymorphess>
[Sun Sep 07 09:46:29 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Willy
[Sun Sep 07 09:46:29 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Afflict
[Sun Sep 07 09:46:29 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Larsen
[Sun Sep 07 09:46:29 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Knife
[Sun Sep 07 09:46:29 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Twerk
[Sun Sep 07 09:46:29 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Digital
[Sun Sep 07 09:46:29 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Wisdikin <Red>
[Sun Sep 07 09:46:29 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Rockem
[Sun Sep 07 09:46:29 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Lemonjelly
[Sun Sep 07 09:46:29 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Vituss
[Sun Sep 07 09:46:29 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Tobe
[Sun Sep 07 09:46:29 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Oppressor
[Sun Sep 07 09:46:29 2014] There are 31 players in Karnor's Castle.

7am pst

[Colgate]

no, i'm saying that in order to have 30 people online on a sunday, we'll end up having 40-50+ on weekdays because there are a lot of people that don't play on sundays

[Dacuk]

current times:

VS 11 am est, CT 6pm est sundays. PD druushk inny sev somewhere between

talendor: thursday evenings

gore/fay/trak/draco dunno. we just killed gore from the repop so probably up now.

since nihi banning, avg AZ raid size is 25 i'd say honestly. min i've seen is 17 max is 34 (not counting the zombie hour 12 neckbeards CT from simpop the other night).

i also would like to move things away from sundays as its a tough day for me, but tbh it works for more people more often than not.

i'd propose we at least leave sev and maybe inny to start being scattered throughout the week.

CT will drift naturally but will be slow for sure. though sunday evenings are normally the highest population time of the week for the server, so maybe it is good

i like the thought behind your post cwall would be down to help convince my fellow nuthuggers

[lite]

so you're suggesting i either:

mass recruit to where if anything spawns on a weekday we'll have well over 40-50 people

or

somehow convince all these people that don't/can't play on sundays to log in anyway?

this is the exact response nizzar and nihilum gave: "you know the timers, come do something about it" to which people in azrael said pretty much what i'm saying right now

how do you not see that?

you have a force that isn't going over 30. If you decide to contest and there are 30 + I will personally dismiss people... recruitment is closed. Targets spawning during the week ... Attack us on talendor, trak, gore, fay, druushk, naggy.

[Puddems]

With guilds like Holocaust, Blaze, and Eternal Light starting to field 15+ members regularly for raids and each guild continuing recruitment, it is only a short matter of time until there will be competition over the end game raid mobs. I am proposing the following things to keep the atmosphere away from becoming anything similar to what it was with Nihilum running the show. My aim is to keep the raid scene relatively casual, civil, and fun. I'd like this to be an open brainstorm session, and I'd like people to refrain from shitting this thread up and perpetuating the issues that this server currently has.

- Agreements not to over-recruit. Every single raid mob in the game can be killed with 4 or fewer groups. When your guild begins exceeding say 30 people at each raid, stop recruiting entirely. Numbers will naturally go down over time, and if they don't, I'm willing to bet that there is always a person or two in every guild that deserves to be kicked out. Nothing was worse than before where, at times, the only competition between Azrael and Nihilum was who could recruit more new players and sustain those numbers week after week. In the long run, this should lead to new guilds forming and even more chaos when several guilds are competing for the same mob(s), while lowering the chance that one single guild will monopolize content.

- Spread raid mob timers far apart to more reasonable times. This one is mostly directed at Azrael, considering they have all the important raid mobs on lockdown right now. Regardless of how you guys feel, a majority of the server does not want to wake up before noon on a Sunday. My idea would be to spread Venril Sathir, Phara Dar, Severilous, Innoruuk, and Cazic-Thule to different days entirely, and try to keep them in a more primetime slot. These are the only mobs that most of the raid scene cares about, and keeping them all on one day only promotes a winner-take-all environment that existed with Nihilum around. I think we all know that whoever won that Venril Sathir fight on repop day took every single raid mob thereafter 19 out of 20 times. When one side loses, many people often get demoralized and log off for the day, and then they have to wait 6 more days until they get another shot at any of the mobs they care to fight over. I believe that having the important raid mobs several different days of the week will keep more people logging in even if they lost the previous fight. It will create far more opportunities for mass PvP, thus lowering the odds that one guild will keep everything on lockdown.

- Keep it civil both in-game and on the forums. This will not only benefit the raid scene, but server population in general. Controlling your members who want to spam /ooc, shit up the forums, grief people on twinks, etc. will keep more newbies interested in leveling up to join us at the endgame. For instance, after mass pvp over a raid mob happens, the winning guild should kill the NPC, then offer to rez the opposing side's clerics and allow them to clear out. People should be cordial and not constantly give the community insight into whatever personality/social disorder they're currently suffering. Following this philosophy will allow us to police the server ourselves instead of relying on petitionquest every single day. If a guild foregoes this idea and decides that they'd rather act like pieces of shit, then the rest of us can make a concentrated effort to treat them like pieces of shit.

It's time to become men about it pals.

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HAHAHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAH

[Kergan]

Maybe it would just be easier to ask Lite directly, what would you change about how the server is now? Would you have guilds like Blaze, Eternal Light and Holocaust recruit to get to the point of being able to match up with Azrael? We'd need to double in size at least, Blaze probably would need to get 5x the level of max level players they do now, not even sure where Eternal Light fits in but they seem to be raiding with you guys already based on that log so do they even count as their own guild?

Where would you expect these players to come from? And are you saying you will refuse entry to anyone at this point?

[Andis]

lol at posted timers

[heartbrand]

any person with a family playing EQ on a Sunday needs their fuckin head examined

[Not_Kazowi]

you have a force that isn't going over 30. If you decide to contest and there are 30 + I will personally dismiss people... recruitment is closed. Targets spawning during the week ... Attack us on talendor, trak, gore, fay, druushk, naggy.

Like when recruitment was closed and then you amassed half of Hokuten and have an active recruitment thread

[Colgate]

you have a force that isn't going over 30. If you decide to contest and there are 30 + I will personally dismiss people... recruitment is closed. Targets spawning during the week ... Attack us on talendor, trak, gore, fay, druushk, naggy.

so for the raid mobs that people actually care about:

you want us to either zerg recruit in order to contest, or don't contest at all

?

[Kasyra]

so basically we're gonna have 2 blue servers now? neat. :P

[iiNGloriouS]

Love the false logs. Never logged in earlier than 8am PST. Still participated in everything. Next time do /time and post the screen shot rather than being a complete moron, maybe people will believe you then.

[heartbrand]

see sig for truth

[Puddems]

I cant win so YOU have to change your guild so I can win

[Dacuk]

so for the raid mobs that people actually care about:

you want us to either zerg recruit in order to contest, or don't contest at all

?

as you well know a small force can easily take out a larger force in VP with the right tactics and execution.

[Pikrib]

yet few posts above showing 31

Was Wisdikin <Red> even at the raid? Or just someone in zone? I swear ive been helping this guy lvl recently, but I could be wrong..

[heartbrand]

as you well know a small force can easily take out a larger force in VP with the right tactics and execution.

So either enjoy Family on a Sunday morning and watch some football, play in my flag football league etc., or sit in VP all Sunday for 10 hours trying to contest PD. Cool story.

[Colgate]

so you're telling me to either train or stall in VP for a ludicrous amount of time, both of which are shitty compared to lite agreeing to do things for the benefit of the entire server, which is what he talked about wanting to do all along

now that it comes down to it? he doesn't want to negotiate at all

[lite]

so for the raid mobs that people actually care about:

you want us to either zerg recruit in order to contest, or don't contest at all

?


so the loot isn't good enough to contest? got it.

[Puddems]

Was Wisdikin <Red> even at the raid? Or just someone in zone? I swear ive been helping this guy lvl recently, but I could be wrong..

I saw some eternal light tags too, pixel starvation causing holocaust to become delusional. I'm just glad archage is fucking AWESOME

[heartbrand]

Honestly Lite's only fucking himself because the net result will be guilds realizing the only way to compete is to just out zerg recruit at which point AZ will be on the outside looking in again and server will still be the same.

[lite]

also we've stablished we arent going to raid with over 30, but u keep claiming u will have to zerg recruit ?

[Colgate]

Love the false logs. Never logged in earlier than 8am PST. Still participated in everything. Next time do /time and post the screen shot rather than being a complete moron, maybe people will believe you then.

i copy/pasted those logs into teamspeak at 10:46 AM EST

maybe you logged in after that? are you on that list?

[Kergan]

What fucking bizzaro universe has this become where I could literally put Nizzar's name in front of Lite's words and nobody would be able to tell.

[Colgate]

also we've stablished we arent going to raid with over 30, but u keep claiming u will have to zerg recruit ?

there is absolutely no way we can field 30 people on a sunday right now

we can come very close to fielding 30 people on a weekday

in order for us to field 30 on a sunday, we have to recruit another 10-20 people

at that point, we will have well over 40 people on weekdays

how do you not understand this?

[LostCause]

time to farm pixels in kunark for 2 years.








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2016

[heartbrand]

Holocaust has more people with RL's who don't play on Sundays.

[Kergan]

there is absolutely no way we can field 30 people on a sunday right now

we can come very close to fielding 30 people on a weekday

in order for us to field 30 on a sunday, we have to recruit another 10-20 people

at that point, we will have well over 40 people on weekdays

how do you not understand this?

Guess where those players would have to come from? Other guilds. Then it becomes a 2 guild server again, whoopdy doo.

[Andis]

So either enjoy Family on a Sunday morning and watch some football, play in my flag football league etc., or sit in VP all Sunday for 10 hours trying to contest PD. Cool story.

everquest might not be the game for you.

[heartbrand]

everquest might not be the game for you.

lol this is exactly what nilly was saying to you guys for 3 yrs. love it.

[LostCause]

server is dead wipe it clean.






















































































































































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[Pikrib]

What fucking bizzaro universe has this become where I could literally put Nizzar's name in front of Lite's words and nobody would be able to tell.

U gonna start FQing for Lite now because hes like the same person and stuff?

[orran]

there is absolutely no way we can field 30 people on a sunday right now

we can come very close to fielding 30 people on a weekday

in order for us to field 30 on a sunday, we have to recruit another 10-20 people

at that point, we will have well over 40 people on weekdays

how do you not understand this?

why do you keep crying about dragons so much I keep hearing over and over holocaust isnt here to kill dragons

[Andis]

lol this is exactly what nilly was saying to you guys for 3 yrs. love it.

not they didnt

they said zerg and beat us

clown

[Kergan]

I dunno man it is getting hard to not slip up. I gotta keep double checking the poster to make sure Niz didn't slip one in that I have to vehemently defend.

[lite]

there is absolutely no way we can field 30 people on a sunday right now

we can come very close to fielding 30 people on a weekday

in order for us to field 30 on a sunday, we have to recruit another 10-20 people

at that point, we will have well over 40 people on weekdays

how do you not understand this?


at this point i'd wonder if you guys can field 20 considering you have 0 leadership. no offense gongshow was a stupid decision the guy has no history here, and you know you are not devoted. This isnt a sunday thing, Holocaust has no structure.

[Andis]

why do you keep crying about dragons so much I keep hearing over and over holocaust isnt here to kill dragons

lol'd heavily with some heavy breathing

[orran]

lol this is exactly what nilly was saying to you guys for 3 yrs. love it.

maybe next time you will think twice about going 82v 18

people dont forget

welcome to the losing side

[Dacuk]

there is absolutely no way we can field 30 people on a sunday right now

we can come very close to fielding 30 people on a weekday

in order for us to field 30 on a sunday, we have to recruit another 10-20 people

at that point, we will have well over 40 people on weekdays

how do you not understand this?

we've raided two nights this week (monday & wednesday) during primetime with numbers in the low 20s (7pm-midnight) eastern and have disappointingly had zero pvp. color me skeptical about this comment

[Gaffin 7.0]

so much for a civil conversation, bunch of manchilds eating their lunchables cant even talk without their ego flaring up with a side of assbergers

[Kergan]

at this point i'd wonder if you guys can field 20 considering you have 0 leadership. no offense gongshow was a stupid decision the guy has no history here, and you know you are not devoted. This isnt a sunday thing, Holocaust has no structure.

Small companies don't need a lot of management bro.

We hire self starters.

[Swyft]

What fucking bizzaro universe has this become where I could literally put Nizzar's name in front of Lite's words and nobody would be able to tell.

The same bizarro universe in which you think you sound like a guy when you speak.

I picture this...

http://www.shanghaiguru.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/crying-girl.jpg

[Dacuk]

So either enjoy Family on a Sunday morning and watch some football, play in my flag football league etc., or sit in VP all Sunday for 10 hours trying to contest PD. Cool story.

i dunno man can't win em all. lets duke it out over talendor or something tonight? maybe that will remind people how fun the pvp is and people will change their minds?

ps jelly of flag football haven't played in too long.

[Andis]

dacuk so noble

what a guy

[lite]

dacuk so noble

what a guy

most likeable guy on red

[Kergan]

I thought Deka won that poll? :)

[heartbrand]

Dekadenz has no spine

[Swyft]

Dekadenz has no spine

I saw Deka/Artax run around pvp'ing solo all the time, saw you do it one time and throw a bitchfit in your twitch for people to help you.

Deka standing tall compared to you

[Colgate]

we've raided two nights this week (monday & wednesday) during primetime with numbers in the low 20s (7pm-midnight) eastern and have disappointingly had zero pvp. color me skeptical about this comment

a majority of our playerbase is sub-60, has no gear, etc.

we won't be ready to contest azrael for several weeks, seeing as a vast majority of your roster is level 60 and very well geared

the point of this thread was a general idea going forward to determine the future of the server

[Andis]

Raid Scene Proposal: get to work

[lite]

yup, get to work. we'll stay 30 max np

[Genedin]

a majority of our playerbase is sub-60, has no gear, etc.

we won't be ready to contest azrael for several weeks, seeing as a vast majority of your roster is level 60 and very well geared

the point of this thread was a general idea going forward to determine the future of the server

holy shit this sounds familiar

[orran]

if only i had 1 platinum for every tear colgate shed while he wrote this thread, sigh... I guess its back to farming fungi's

[Kergan]

Is Orran Jib?

[heartbrand]

Ya he's a legit psychopath just scroll past his posts

[orran]

Is Orran Jib?

pixel starvation causing delusions of grandeur again

hello sir my name is orran

[Kergan]

Ah cool thanks, now I know to skip.

[Not_Kazowi]

I don't see any tears from Colgate here. Dude is trying to present an outline to success for the server and pvp. Nobody wants to treat this game like a job and micro manage a emulator Everquest guild. Sorry, not everyone can play Everquest in career mode like lite and nizzar.


Also: Has everyone had a sudden case of selective amnesia about the copious lite threads crying for variance and everything else under the sun?

[orran]

I don't see any tears from Colgate here. Dude is trying to present an outline to success for the server and pvp. Nobody wants to treat this game like a job and micro manage a emulator Everquest guild. Sorry, not everyone can play Everquest in career mode like lite and nizzar.


Also: Has everyone had a sudden case of selective amnesia about the copious lite threads crying for variance and everything else under the sun?

holocaust isnt here for dragons, get over it

[no chewie dont]

isnt that jib evading a forum ban
or is it jib just having fun roleplaying his alts on the forums again

[orran]

I allowed jib to play my character now and then he helped me level a bit hes a pretty swell guy. I let him use my character for a few things but naw im the one and only orran

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

so much for a civil conversation, bunch of manchilds eating their lunchables cant even talk without their ego flaring up with a side of assbergers

Gaffin on point

[Gaffin 7.0]

http://www.anarchyinthesandbox.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/post-18879-Jon-Hamm-Yeah-Ok-gif-1dnC.gif

[Puddems]

isnt that jib evading a forum ban
or is it jib just having fun roleplaying his alts on the forums again

[Swyft]

I allowed jib to play my character now and then he helped me level a bit hes a pretty swell guy. I let him use my character for a few things but naw im the one and only orran

I think there are pills for this sort of madness.

[Mac Drettj]

azrael all had real lives and water parks to go to because its summer until nihilum is disbanded

now they all raiding mythical creatures at 7am pst on a sunday

and then again on a monday when sim repop happens

HEH

[orran]

azrael all had real lives and water parks to go to because its summer until nihilum is disbanded

now they all raiding mythical creatures at 7am pst on a sunday

and then again on a monday when sim repop happens

HEH

raids started at 1pm where i live

[heartbrand]

hows the job hunt coming

[Mac Drettj]

surely the 8k life savings have dried up by now

[iiNGloriouS]

Eh I probably zoned in shortly after or was swapping toons to buff. Retti isn't a smart man though, I believe we can all attest to that.

[Mac Drettj]

what does posting a /who stamp showing 31 at 7am have to do with enteligance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bprngcruuM

[heartbrand]

what does posting a /who stamp showing 31 at 7am have to do with enteligance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bprngcruuM

was wondering same thing

[Quiet]

So long as no one is coming to contest , Lite will stick to 30 people. The first time 29 people show up to fight. He'll camp in his alts and bots and boxes.

[Mac Drettj]

was wondering same thing

technically with his story add +1 to the log HOHOHO

[iiNGloriouS]

what does posting a /who stamp showing 31 at 7am have to do with enteligance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bprngcruuM

you trying to pull it off as 4am.

[orran]

this thread fucking delivered, my jaw hurts from laughing so much

[Mac Drettj]

you trying to pull it off as 4am.

by stating 7 am pst, i am trying to pull it off as 4am

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[Colgate]

you trying to pull it off as 4am.

what?

[HippoNipple]

Guild leaders would need to cut off raids at 30 and lock TS channels once enough people were present. If the guild gets too big and players come late to a raid and don't have a spot, it will push guilds to not over recruit naturally.

Good luck trusting all the guild leaders to kick some "vet" with a huge ego from a guild raid because someone that just joined up last week took the last spot.

[Colgate]

i simply want a server that isn't focused around a few very insane individuals ruining it for everyone else

it would appear at this point that a lot of these azrael people have an obsession with "revenge gearing" against people who are banned and/or do not play here anymore

the brain rot is real

[orran]

i simply want a server that isn't focused around a few very insane individuals ruining it for everyone else

it would appear at this point that a lot of these azrael people have an obsession with "revenge gearing" against people who are banned and/or do not play here anymore

the brain rot is real

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwAXcR6wRuQ

[HippoNipple]

So long as no one is coming to contest , Lite will stick to 30 people. The first time 29 people show up to fight. He'll camp in his alts and bots and boxes.

This also. It is very easy to say you aren't zerging when it is most convenient for you not to. Some how Azrael got 50+ people to log in when D3 came out with no trouble at all after not having any members logging in for months.

A couple 30 vs 30 fights happen and people tend to come back. There are still a lot of nonactive Azrael members not playing because they are probably bored to death right? What happens when the server has real guild vs guild pvp and 15 members come back?

[HippoNipple]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwAXcR6wRuQ

Lite has been begging for Holocaust to discuss how to make the server more competitive for weeks now. You are a retard for thinking it is whining when discussing pros and cons of certain decisions and the future of the server.

[Colgate]

This also. It is very easy to say you aren't zerging when it is most convenient for you not to.

this is very similar to how when nihilum was disbanded, azrael attempted to look like the "good guys" by constantly promoting server health, willingness to compromise with other raid guilds, taking a stand against recruitment, etc.

but now that they're actually being confronted to negotiate, they're very quick to say "we will not discuss this. we decide when raid mobs get killed."

[Andis]

i simply want a server that isn't focused around a few very insane individuals ruining it for everyone else

it would appear at this point that a lot of these azrael people have an obsession with "revenge gearing" against people who are banned and/or do not play here anymore

the brain rot is real

your brain has been rotting over the past several weeks, sad to say

azrael is doing azrael with 30 members

holocaust doesn't even logon enough to even be considered a guild here on red99

you cry about dragons and timers, but holo is "not about dragons"

you are right, brain rot is real.

[orran]

this is very similar to how when nihilum was disbanded, azrael attempted to look like the "good guys" by constantly promoting server health, willingness to compromise with other raid guilds, taking a stand against recruitment, etc.

but now that they're actually being confronted to negotiate, they're very quick to say "we will not discuss this. we decide when raid mobs get killed."

Holocaust isnt here for dragons, get with the program kid.

log in and pvp.

[Genedin]

I really hope I get to "revenge gear" my epic that I have been cock blocked for 2 years from getting by Toxihilum while experiencing end-game content I was also cock block for 2 years from seeing all in the name of revenge and not in the name of experiencing end game EverQuest I never got to do up to this point due to the toxic players that are now boo hooing on the forums.

REVENGE

[Colgate]

your brain has been rotting over the past several weeks, sad to say

azrael is doing azrael with 30 members

holocaust doesn't even logon enough to even be considered a guild here on red99

you cry about dragons and timers, but holo is "not about dragons"

you are right, brain rot is real.

remember when you begged to join holocaust and then 3 days later started spouting off in /ooc that you'd never join holocuast?

nothing you say holds any value

[orran]

remember when you begged to join holocaust and then 3 days later started spouting off in /ooc that you'd never join holocuast?

nothing you say holds any value

in the past year you made 4000+ posts crying how you wish you could have been nizzar's squire

congrats

[Mac Drettj]

remember when you begged to join holocaust and then 3 days later started spouting off in /ooc that you'd never join holocuast?

nothing you say holds any value

neither do his items for sell

ZING

[Colgate]

I really hope I get to "revenge gear" my epic that I have been cock blocked for 2 years from getting by Toxihilum while experiencing end-game content I was also cock block for 2 years from seeing all in the name of revenge and not in the name of experiencing end game EverQuest I never got to do up to this point due to the toxic players that are now boo hooing on the forums.

REVENGE

what epic did you get cockblocked from for two years? what characters did you play? i'm pretty sure you've only been playing mordeath for a few months now, during which time you were a nihilum applicant at one point

there are very few people that have been consistently been playing here for two years against nihilum the entire time; you're not someone that comes to mind

[Kergan]

remember when you begged to join holocaust and then 3 days later started spouting off in /ooc that you'd never join holocuast?

nothing you say holds any value

LOL I remember that. Feels like it just happened yesterday, the memory is so fresh.

[Andis]

nothing you say holds any value

i think it finally clicked for colgate lol

[Tacitus]

Azrael spent to much time getting their shit pushed in by Nihilum so now that they have no competition they want to make sure they stay ahead so they dont feel like the losers that they only know how to be lol...." Not recruiting but we have a feeder guild and took all of Hokutens Epic'd 60s".

[Mac Drettj]

i just laugh at all andith posts cus u know hes dead serious probably *shades* each time he presses Post Quick Reply

[Genedin]

what epic did you get cockblocked from for two years? what characters did you play? i'm pretty sure you've only been playing mordeath for a few months now, during which time you were a nihilum applicant at one point

there are very few people that have been consistently been playing here for two years against nihilum the entire time; you're not someone that comes to mind


How do you pretend to know these things about me when you haven't even been playing on this server but once a week at best for the past how long until nihilum got disbanded?

See forum sig. Played on blue server for about 2 weeks after creating sig then moved to Red.

Did 1 raid with Nihilum after my pal Sektors asked me to join and no other guilds were on the server and I had stopped playing. Went to Mexico for a week and got booted as an app and decided I didn't want to re apply after hanging out in teamspeak for said one raid. Played with Brobb and pals in <Force> and every resistance guild since. So I dunno why you keep acting like I was ever part of Nihilum or that I'm somehow new to the server or resistance.....which we already went over in another thread but since I keep shitting on your crybaby posts you keep bringing up the same moot argument against me as not having been part of the resistance.

I'll be in Austin tomorrow we can discuss over a beer if you are not understanding via text mang.

Server still best place to contest and start a guild on as it's been in 2 years and that's the only point I've been making in any of my posts yet am under attack.

[Not_Kazowi]

remember when you begged to join holocaust and then 3 days later started spouting off in /ooc that you'd never join holocuast?

nothing you say holds any value

Andis is a scrub try hard wannabe. It's so sad reading his posts.

[Colgate]

you still haven't told me what characters you played

[Koota]

With guilds like Holocaust, Blaze, and Eternal Light starting to field 15+ members regularly for raids and each guild continuing recruitment, it is only a short matter of time until there will be competition over the end game raid mobs. I am proposing the following things to keep the atmosphere away from becoming anything similar to what it was with Nihilum running the show. My aim is to keep the raid scene relatively casual, civil, and fun. I'd like this to be an open brainstorm session, and I'd like people to refrain from shitting this thread up and perpetuating the issues that this server currently has.

- Agreements not to over-recruit. Every single raid mob in the game can be killed with 4 or fewer groups. When your guild begins exceeding say 30 people at each raid, stop recruiting entirely. Numbers will naturally go down over time, and if they don't, I'm willing to bet that there is always a person or two in every guild that deserves to be kicked out. Nothing was worse than before where, at times, the only competition between Azrael and Nihilum was who could recruit more new players and sustain those numbers week after week. In the long run, this should lead to new guilds forming and even more chaos when several guilds are competing for the same mob(s), while lowering the chance that one single guild will monopolize content.

- Spread raid mob timers far apart to more reasonable times. This one is mostly directed at Azrael, considering they have all the important raid mobs on lockdown right now. Regardless of how you guys feel, a majority of the server does not want to wake up before noon on a Sunday. My idea would be to spread Venril Sathir, Phara Dar, Severilous, Innoruuk, and Cazic-Thule to different days entirely, and try to keep them in a more primetime slot. These are the only mobs that most of the raid scene cares about, and keeping them all on one day only promotes a winner-take-all environment that existed with Nihilum around. I think we all know that whoever won that Venril Sathir fight on repop day took every single raid mob thereafter 19 out of 20 times. When one side loses, many people often get demoralized and log off for the day, and then they have to wait 6 more days until they get another shot at any of the mobs they care to fight over. I believe that having the important raid mobs several different days of the week will keep more people logging in even if they lost the previous fight. It will create far more opportunities for mass PvP, thus lowering the odds that one guild will keep everything on lockdown.

- Keep it civil both in-game and on the forums. This will not only benefit the raid scene, but server population in general. Controlling your members who want to spam /ooc, shit up the forums, grief people on twinks, etc. will keep more newbies interested in leveling up to join us at the endgame. For instance, after mass pvp over a raid mob happens, the winning guild should kill the NPC, then offer to rez the opposing side's clerics and allow them to clear out. People should be cordial and not constantly give the community insight into whatever personality/social disorder they're currently suffering. Following this philosophy will allow us to police the server ourselves instead of relying on petitionquest every single day. If a guild foregoes this idea and decides that they'd rather act like pieces of shit, then the rest of us can make a concentrated effort to treat them like pieces of shit.

It's time to become men about it pals.


All of this coming from C-Wall is laughable, at best. Fuck outta here, bluebie.

[orran]

How do you pretend to know these things about me when you haven't even been playing on this server but once a week at best for the past how long until nihilum got disbanded?

See forum sig. Played on blue server for about 2 weeks after creating sig then moved to Red.

Did 1 raid with Nihilum after my pal Sektors asked me to join and no other guilds were on the server and I had stopped playing. Went to Mexico for a week and got booted as an app and decided I didn't want to re apply after hanging out in teamspeak for said one raid. Played with Brobb and pals in <Force> and every resistance guild since. So I dunno why you keep acting like I was ever part of Nihilum or that I'm somehow new to the server or resistance.....which we already went over in another thread but since I keep shitting on your crybaby posts you keep bringing up the same moot argument against me as not having been part of the resistance.

I'll be in Austin tomorrow we can discuss over a beer if you are not understanding via text mang.

Server still best place to contest and start a guild on as it's been in 2 years and that's the only point I've been making in any of my posts yet am under attack.

colgate is like 14 in rl he cant drink yet

[Andis]

colgate is like 14 in rl he cant drink yet

and confirmed tiny

[freez]

All of this coming from C-Wall is laughable, at best. Fuck outta here, bluebie.

mad alert

[Gullytheghost]

lite is the new nizzar

pras the new duke

[Koota]

mad alert

never a factor alert.

[HippoNipple]

your brain has been rotting over the past several weeks, sad to say

azrael is doing azrael with 30 members

holocaust doesn't even logon enough to even be considered a guild here on red99

you cry about dragons and timers, but holo is "not about dragons"

you are right, brain rot is real.

Holocaust has been trying to promote a casual but competitive atmosphere. Azrael so far is pushing a competitive and hardcore atmosphere. Both like the idea of playing with low numbers (this hasn't been tested yet so we will see when real competition happens).

The issue is Azrael will log there 30 members in at anytime, no matter the time of day, while Holocaust currently will not do this. Some of the same ideas are overlapping but Holocaust wants Azrael to agree to their casual game play and Azrael is refusing. Neither is in the wrong, but as of now these two guilds aren't going to provide a fun atmosphere unless Azrael chills out or Holocaust steps it up.

It may not be possible for Holocaust to step it up because it appears they have too many players that aren't willing to put in 30+ hours a week. (This is why Colgate said he can produce 30 on Sunday if you would like, but then during the week they may have 45 since casuals are sporadic).

Lite is basically saying can't this server provide 30 people that want to play as hardcore as me and my 29 friends do? Well the answer is not at the moment and Holocaust at its core doesn't want to play the game like this.

You will need to wait for one of these starter guilds to compete and that can easily turn into the same atmosphere we saw with Nihilum. Where the top players are recruited into Azrael to replace Azrael players that get geared and stop logging in while the smaller developing guilds bleed their top players because they leave for Azrael.

[Colgate]

hehe these people resorting to real life attacks when someone points out how bad their e-rep is

8)

[Andis]

Andis is a scrub try hard wannabe. It's so sad reading his posts.

damn rexx you like saying my name

pretty safe to say he could be gay

thank god this is elf sim and not rl

in rl id be scared, in elf sim its just wierd bro

[Stasis01]

I don't think this works in reality. So Phara Dar is supposed to spawn, and we have the people willing to kill it that all want the loot and have fought harder than anyone in MMO history to get them - but now that their neckbeard faggot leader is banned, we're supposed to leave PD up till the group of ex Nihi, and some old pals get together to fuck with us?

This is a server problem - the end. If GM's are too fucking stupid to either make it variance (easiest solution) or actually use their heads to split the mobs up throughout the week with a 5 hour window both encouraging PVP in that zone, and making contesting/cockblocking more time consuming and less cockblocked.

I love the idea in theory, but if you really break it down in your head it's retarded - that being said Az doesn't want to share our loot with a bunch of warm bodies, don't expect a massive zerg of us gearing up fucking homo's like Ricquire or Kergan.

[freez]

never a factor alert.

90% of the people in this thread probably couldnt even remember the class you played here


just sayin

http://i.imgur.com/61lDc.gif

[Andis]

hehe these people resorting to real life attacks when someone points out how bad their e-rep is

8)

colgates e-rep stock plummeted severely

hate to break it to ya lil guy

[Koota]

90% of the people in this thread probably couldnt even remember the class you played here


just sayin

http://i.imgur.com/61lDc.gif


But you remember the picture I regularly post.




Just sayin

[Genedin]

Dango.

Mordeath and Marius for well over a year now. Sorry you never noticed me with all of your /played. I've taken a few breaks between disbanding and reforming of Force, Red Dawn, Azrael, and Hokuten.

See you at Dogwood tomorrow? First round is on me we can talk about your upcoming duel with Jibeknn :)

[freez]

i remember you by your constant cat gif & the fuck outta here



so does everyone else. loool

[Koota]

KAY.

[jabekn]

colgates e-rep stock plummeted severely

hate to break it to ya lil guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIKPJlKHKxg

[Colgate]

stasis, here's what i don't get about that:

azrael is currently the guild on the server that can easily decide when things die; no one will be able to control that but you at the moment

yet you guys refuse to do so because of some fantasy scenario where suddenly 30 people who haven't played and/or are banned log in to take phara dar from you at 3 AM

[freez]

https://i.chzbgr.com/original/1238478592/6BC460A7/1

[Andis]

I don't think this works in reality. So Phara Dar is supposed to spawn, and we have the people willing to kill it that all want the loot and have fought harder than anyone in MMO history to get them - but now that their neckbeard faggot leader is banned, we're supposed to leave PD up till the group of ex Nihi, and some old pals get together to fuck with us?

This is a server problem - the end. If GM's are too fucking stupid to either make it variance (easiest solution) or actually use their heads to split the mobs up throughout the week with a 5 hour window both encouraging PVP in that zone, and making contesting/cockblocking more time consuming and less cockblocked.

I love the idea in theory, but if you really break it down in your head it's retarded - that being said Az doesn't want to share our loot with a bunch of warm bodies, don't expect a massive zerg of us gearing up fucking homo's like Ricquire or Kergan.

/signed

lets see if colgate can understand it this time

[Quiet]

I shall petitioned GM's to strip his Grandmaster tag and replace it with, Grandposer. I would also accept Grandposter and Forumquester or non-factorer.

At this point I'd almost be willing to say Krazy is the most pvping Monk on the server. Sickpuppy lives for dat pvp.

[Stasis01]

I don't see why we're supposed to push back the best loot dragon in the game to the best time zone for ex Nihi members mostly, you're dreaming.

We aren't recruiting, most mobs aren't high priority - PD you're gona have to work for it, that should be a given.

I wish GM's would do 5-11 PM 1 raid mob per week random spawn in that window - would be battle royal in diff zones every day.

Plus TBH I don't even see anyone trying to take the mobs to begin with or contest - Holo hasn't really shown up at all, when a guild does we won't really be giving them the Nihi treatment - this is all a bunch of crap.

[Not_Kazowi]

colgates e-rep stock plummeted severely

hate to break it to ya lil guy

Should we talk about your picture? I laughed for about 10 minutes after I saw it

[freez]

colgate def cares 2 much

[Colgate]

i knew there was something special about you quiet when you were level 53 in greater faydark chain dying to cyborella and klepto because you kept attacking them then cried about how it's impossible to win when you refuse to buy pumice

[HippoNipple]

I love the idea in theory, but if you really break it down in your head it's retarded - that being said Az doesn't want to share our loot with a bunch of warm bodies, don't expect a massive zerg of us gearing up fucking homo's like Ricquire or Kergan.

What about when your 30 dwindles to 20 just like that because people get tired of logging in just for uncontested raiding? Shit will get old quick. One week without having the numbers to raid and maybe next time you will recruit until you have 40 just to give yourself a buffer for the next wave of people burning out.

It is easy to say shit like this when you have been getting dragons for 2 weeks after being denied for 2 years. It will change with time.

[jabekn]

colgate def cares 2 much

http://puu.sh/bv3eO/303cac377f.jpg

[Quiet]

I don't see why we're supposed to push back the best loot dragon in the game to the best time zone for ex Nihi members mostly, you're dreaming.

We aren't recruiting, most mobs aren't high priority - PD you're gona have to work for it, that should be a given.

I wish GM's would do 5-11 PM 1 raid mob per week random spawn in that window - would be battle royal in diff zones every day.

Plus TBH I don't even see anyone trying to take the mobs to begin with or contest - Holo hasn't really shown up at all, when a guild does we won't really be giving them the Nihi treatment - this is all a bunch of crap.

battle royal between who? 29 (cough lol) Azrael and the 3 other people who log in? The last time someone even tried to attack or chase Azrael for pvp it was, myself, Thrilla and i cant even remember, we ported as 3 people to EJ and engaged whoever was floating around TT/EJ. Since then I'm pretty sure no one has showed up.

[Quiet]

i knew there was something special about you quiet when you were level 53 in greater faydark chain dying to cyborella and klepto because you kept attacking them then cried about how it's impossible to win when you refuse to buy pumice

Uhm? Think you got the wrong guy here?

[Stasis01]

If it's over 6 hrs I bet even a solid group could fuck with people currently, after a couple weeks of 6 hr window a day it won't be people focusing all of their buffed raid army attention at a perfect static timer.

What do I know, maybe the players will just put PD at primetime.

[freez]

quiet used to get real butthurt and upset in ts


thats all i remember

[Colgate]

Uhm? Think you got the wrong guy here?

no, it was definitely you

[Quiet]

I just checked Elderan's board since it goes back to my first pvp death - to mrbigs in august 2013. I found 1 deaths to Cyborella and 0 to Klepto.

[Andis]

Should we talk about your picture?

polls are in

rexx confirmed gay

[Colgate]

[Thu Aug 21 22:37:30 2014] Guido tells you, 'guild invite me! im in sro'
[Wed Aug 27 21:24:24 2014] Guido says out of character, 'would never join holo'

[Not Salem]

I don't remember quiet dying to cyborella or klepto myself but he get's texted pretty much everytime he logs on so it wouldn't surprise me, that guy SUCKS at this game

[Quiet]

I don't mind Andis. He plays to pvp. He wants gear to be better at Pvp. He wants buffs a lot :P

[Quiet]

I don't remember quiet dying to cyborella or klepto myself but he get's texted pretty much everytime he logs on so it wouldn't surprise me, that guy SUCKS at this game

Salem would be the man to consult on sucking. Hes had a lot of dick in his mouth.

[Andis]

[Thu Aug 21 22:37:30 2014] Guido tells you, 'guild invite me! im in sro'
[Wed Aug 27 21:24:24 2014] Guido says out of character, 'would never join holo'

andis made a mistake

what you see is a product of rage

despite my godlike tendencies in eq pvp, I am ashamed to say I am only human.

[Quiet]

I assumed he was asking for an invite to Dentists. I don't see him requesting an invite in to Holo. All I got out of that line was Invite me to (unknown guild) and he would never join holo. Its also 6 days apart. I find it unfounded to believe Colgate was even online in the same week timeline.

[Mac Drettj]

[Thu Aug 21 22:37:30 2014] Guido tells you, 'guild invite me! im in sro'
[Wed Aug 27 21:24:24 2014] Guido says out of character, 'would never join holo'

hehe

[Colgate]

i don't even remember the last time i had a dentists tag

also if you're a god andis, what does that make me?

http://i.imgur.com/uCwDcQJ.jpg

[Andis]

i don't even remember the last time i had a dentists tag

also if you're a god andis, what does that make me?

http://i.imgur.com/uCwDcQJ.jpg

makes you lucky

tstaff owns

[Colgate]

so why stand there and let it hit you? is that something a god would do?

[Quiet]

Would have been more impressed if hadn't blown disc. Also I didn't know monks could cast Symbol of Marzin :(

[Andis]

so why stand there and let it hit you? is that something a god would do?

first corridor of seb, mobs on either side

hmm not sure if serious

[Mac Drettj]

druid sitting in seb notshrufsrious

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xjnN-hInTk

[Colgate]

ya you didn't have to run down there and start casting calefaction on me

was your choice to run down and suicide

don't think a god or the "deadliest pvper" would do something that stupid

[Not Salem]

yeah using abilities you have as a class is not impressive

[Not_Kazowi]

Andis you're trying to call me gay for talking about your picture but you just brought up colgates first.

[Andis]

Andis you're trying to call me gay for talking about your picture but you just brought up colgates first.

every word out of my mouth isnt about colgate and his picture

yours very much are

faggot

[hagard]

ya you didn't have to run down there and start casting calefaction on me

was your choice to run down and suicide

don't think a god or the "deadliest pvper" would do something that stupid

sounds like a move made by the king of assburgers

[Quiet]

Actually i'm super confused by the stats. His Str is 126 and he has 1125 attack. My str is 209 and I am around 1177 atk yet his 29dmg staff hits nearly 2x harder then my 34 dmg wep. Dat Class balance.

[Mac Drettj]

Derrrrr why duzn my ranger hit leik monk durrrrrr

[Colgate]

monk offensive stats are the highest in the game

also you're looking at innerflame damage

[Not_Kazowi]

every word out of my mouth isnt about colgate and his picture

yours very much are

faggot

Sorry but for someone as yourself that talks so much shit and acts like they are important, your picture represents the total opposite of that and I'm just amused by it.

Haha

[Quiet]

This players post was blocked because he is a non-factor

[Andis]

ya you didn't have to run down there and start casting calefaction on me

was your choice to run down and suicide

don't think a god or the "deadliest pvper" would do something that stupid

ya when my heals werent getting channeled after the tstaff proc ended, had no choice but to attempt to suicide to avoid yt

tstaff proc ftw for sure.

[Colgate]

there is literally no excuse for standing there and trying to channel spells against a melee

you're just not very good at the game

[Andis]

and I'm just amused by it.

i told you I wasnt gay

back off dude

jesus

[Mac Drettj]

A professional would never run a druid into a dungeon to try and attack a fd class

Def seems like a familiar case of tunnel vision mixed with assburgers

[Andis]

there is literally no excuse for standing there and trying to channel spells against a melee

you're just not very good at the game

stick to your monk with tstaff thats all you know

hope to see u in game soon, maybe even for some pvp?

[Andis]

A professional would never run a druid into a dungeon to try and attack a fd class

Def seems like a familiar case of tunnel vision mixed with assburgers

thats normally my thoughts

no guts no glory tho

tstaff > andis

[Not_Kazowi]

Yeah dawgs Andis is a super pro badass. He just runs and plugs or does in dungeons to tstaff monks. So fucking sick bro


Also: no ones talking about homosexuality but you Andis, you need to come to grips with something pal?

[Not Salem]

Alright pals, back on track

- Keep it civil both in-game and on the forums. This will not only benefit the raid scene, but server population in general. Controlling your members who want to spam /ooc, shit up the forums, grief people on twinks, etc. will keep more newbies interested in leveling up to join us at the endgame. For instance, after mass pvp over a raid mob happens, the winning guild should kill the NPC, then offer to rez the opposing side's clerics and allow them to clear out. People should be cordial and not constantly give the community insight into whatever personality/social disorder they're currently suffering. Following this philosophy will allow us to police the server ourselves instead of relying on petitionquest every single day. If a guild foregoes this idea and decides that they'd rather act like pieces of shit, then the rest of us can make a concentrated effort to treat them like pieces of shit.

[Mac Drettj]

NAW DIE IN A STARFIRE

[Andis]

Kids these days sheesh

[Nirgon]

it would appear at this point that a lot of these azrael people have an obsession with "revenge gearing" against people who are banned and/or do not play here anymore


Honestly if they held or even barely held a guild together as Nihilum's #2 competition for a year+ I really don't have a problem with them doing that for a while.

[XiakenjaTZ]

Until we have satisfied our 2 year pixel diet for mains I doubt you will see us lighten up much on the raids.

We need another Donals or 2 and we will probably back off Trak.
AoNs will always be stupid OP so I don't see us giving up that one.
I am sure there are a few of us who would like the gloves off VS and perhaps another wiz epic or two.
PD, aint gonna happen. That rile crown is still great in Velious.
I could see us letting Sev go if we don't have someone who just needs a scale.
White dragons will be killed when we need a white scale.
The last few CoFs have gone to mains that actually needed it as an upgrade. Probably need a few for alts also.


Basically I think asking Azrael to share mobs 1 month into Nihi being banned is a bit much when we waited 2 years for some of this crap. I would bet in 2 months this idea would have a better chance of working.

[Colgate]

i don't want you guys to "share mobs"

i want you guys to put raid mobs at a sane hour so there can be pvp over them without requiring holocaust to mass recruit

[Mac Drettj]

thats the joke

they want competition

but they also want uncontested mobs

we know the timers

we should just recruit

[Nirgon]

I want raid mobs left up so they will kill people wandering in their respective zones

8]

The threat of Inny aggroing through the floor is PoHate was real on live when sneaking along the wall. I miss it.

[Koota]

They want to compete when it's convenient for them.

[Drakaris]

The biggest problem with this community is that the people interested in the end game scene come and go like a revolving door.

I'm pretty sure if nihilum fielded 20-30 consistently at any raid any time they would stop recruiting.

The mass recruiting was a symptom of the oppositions equal ability to Zerg and neckbeard.

If azrael lost targets people will stop logging in until they recruit more and start winning again, in which everyone starts logging in again, snowballing to a larger Zerg.

This is the nature of the server. There are so many blue people that just want to pixel up and peace out.

[Not_Kazowi]

Until we have satisfied our 2 year pixel diet for mains I doubt you will see us lighten up much on the raids.

We need another Donals or 2 and we will probably back off Trak.
AoNs will always be stupid OP so I don't see us giving up that one.
I am sure there are a few of us who would like the gloves off VS and perhaps another wiz epic or two.
PD, aint gonna happen. That rile crown is still great in Velious.
I could see us letting Sev go if we don't have someone who just needs a scale.
White dragons will be killed when we need a white scale.
The last few CoFs have gone to mains that actually needed it as an upgrade. Probably need a few for alts also.


Basically I think asking Azrael to share mobs 1 month into Nihi being banned is a bit much when we waited 2 years for some of this crap. I would bet in 2 months this idea would have a better chance of working.

So much beta in this post

[freez]

So much beta in this post

i didnt know grown males use that term

[heartbrand]

who is georgie with a mma fighter in his avatar calling me beta



probably uglier then chinaskater, dumber than rexx and fatter then rettis wife

[Not Salem]

So someone else referred to Freez as a "beta" before, and he answered the same was he is now?

[Mac Drettj]

why he callin my wife fat doe

[Not_Kazowi]

Freez the one posting pictures of his middle class parents house like he's a big tymer?

[Tassador]

Toxic scum red feels like Iraq after sadam was removed.

[XiakenjaTZ]

So much beta in this post

Not sure what you mean. I posted a logical response to the initial post. Is sounding intelligent on the boards considered to be a "beta male" trait?

We back in high school Rexx? Should I dunk your head in the toilet and call you a fag then post a picture? Grow the fuck up.

Rockem

[XiakenjaTZ]

Freez the one posting pictures of his middle class parents house like he's a big tymer?

Also you being from Highland Park going to SMU and now working for your Dad calling out someone like that is super hypocritical on your part.

Rockem

[Gaffin 7.0]

say my name at end of every post

Gaffin

[XiakenjaTZ]

meow

[Dacuk]

- Keep it civil both in-game and on the forums. This will not only benefit the raid scene, but server population in general. Controlling your members who want to spam /ooc, shit up the forums, grief people on twinks, etc. will keep more newbies interested in leveling up to join us at the endgame.

It's time to become men about it pals.

hmm seems like this is definitely unrealistic with this crew considering every other post in this thread is people trolling about other people's RL shit lawl.

[Colgate]

ya seems like people from both sides can't contain their assburgers

[Zalaerian]

I'm civil

[LostCause]

manlet manchilds.

[Heyitsme]

I thought colgate's op was pretty reasonable

escalated quickly though

[Farzo]

With guilds like Holocaust, Blaze, and Eternal Light starting to field 15+ members regularly for raids and each guild continuing recruitment, it is only a short matter of time until there will be competition over the end game raid mobs. I am proposing the following things to keep the atmosphere away from becoming anything similar to what it was with Nihilum running the show. My aim is to keep the raid scene relatively casual, civil, and fun. I'd like this to be an open brainstorm session, and I'd like people to refrain from shitting this thread up and perpetuating the issues that this server currently has.

- Agreements not to over-recruit. Every single raid mob in the game can be killed with 4 or fewer groups. When your guild begins exceeding say 30 people at each raid, stop recruiting entirely. Numbers will naturally go down over time, and if they don't, I'm willing to bet that there is always a person or two in every guild that deserves to be kicked out. Nothing was worse than before where, at times, the only competition between Azrael and Nihilum was who could recruit more new players and sustain those numbers week after week. In the long run, this should lead to new guilds forming and even more chaos when several guilds are competing for the same mob(s), while lowering the chance that one single guild will monopolize content.

- Spread raid mob timers far apart to more reasonable times. This one is mostly directed at Azrael, considering they have all the important raid mobs on lockdown right now. Regardless of how you guys feel, a majority of the server does not want to wake up before noon on a Sunday. My idea would be to spread Venril Sathir, Phara Dar, Severilous, Innoruuk, and Cazic-Thule to different days entirely, and try to keep them in a more primetime slot. These are the only mobs that most of the raid scene cares about, and keeping them all on one day only promotes a winner-take-all environment that existed with Nihilum around. I think we all know that whoever won that Venril Sathir fight on repop day took every single raid mob thereafter 19 out of 20 times. When one side loses, many people often get demoralized and log off for the day, and then they have to wait 6 more days until they get another shot at any of the mobs they care to fight over. I believe that having the important raid mobs several different days of the week will keep more people logging in even if they lost the previous fight. It will create far more opportunities for mass PvP, thus lowering the odds that one guild will keep everything on lockdown.

- Keep it civil both in-game and on the forums. This will not only benefit the raid scene, but server population in general. Controlling your members who want to spam /ooc, shit up the forums, grief people on twinks, etc. will keep more newbies interested in leveling up to join us at the endgame. For instance, after mass pvp over a raid mob happens, the winning guild should kill the NPC, then offer to rez the opposing side's clerics and allow them to clear out. People should be cordial and not constantly give the community insight into whatever personality/social disorder they're currently suffering. Following this philosophy will allow us to police the server ourselves instead of relying on petitionquest every single day. If a guild foregoes this idea and decides that they'd rather act like pieces of shit, then the rest of us can make a concentrated effort to treat them like pieces of shit.

It's time to become men about it pals.

I like your idea Colgate, but two things:

Keep it civil both in-game and on the forums. this can never be achieved - too many egos/nut jobs........ and Eternal Light and Prophets of Slosh ARE Azrael.

So currently the proposal for fielding less then 30 people is not happening, and it's covered by some loose veil breaking the guild down in to ranks; i.e feeder guild/alt's guild. There might be less then 30 people on in Azrael @ raid times but their zerg "protection/plan" is already in full swing. Roster is def 50+ when needed.

But having said that it has been fun times on the server: if there was a chance that some agreement could be worked out between guilds it would be great for all but I doubt it.

[Farzo]

err also Rap Game Billy whatever the fucks is Azrael too.

[Mac Drettj]

Shut nerd fat beta mailorder wife divorced 15 yr old lispy pigeon toed virgin mutant small penis tv dinner eatin ass

[Bazia]

Shut nerd fat beta mailorder wife divorced 15 yr old lispy pigeon toed virgin mutant small penis tv dinner eatin ass

http://media.giphy.com/media/YYRkVlmqo11MA/giphy.gif

[iiNGloriouS]

err also Rap Game Billy whatever the fucks is Azrael too.

All toons are Azrael alts but Jody who is my main.

[freez]

Shut nerd fat beta mailorder wife divorced 15 yr old lispy pigeon toed virgin mutant small penis tv dinner eatin ass

lol

[Kergan]

I don't think this works in reality. So Phara Dar is supposed to spawn, and we have the people willing to kill it that all want the loot and have fought harder than anyone in MMO history to get them - but now that their neckbeard faggot leader is banned, we're supposed to leave PD up till the group of ex Nihi, and some old pals get together to fuck with us?

This is a server problem - the end. If GM's are too fucking stupid to either make it variance (easiest solution) or actually use their heads to split the mobs up throughout the week with a 5 hour window both encouraging PVP in that zone, and making contesting/cockblocking more time consuming and less cockblocked.

I love the idea in theory, but if you really break it down in your head it's retarded - that being said Az doesn't want to share our loot with a bunch of warm bodies, don't expect a massive zerg of us gearing up fucking homo's like Ricquire or Kergan.

Thanks for the shout out!

[Kergan]

I don't see why we're supposed to push back the best loot dragon in the game to the best time zone for ex Nihi members mostly, you're dreaming.

We aren't recruiting, most mobs aren't high priority - PD you're gona have to work for it, that should be a given.

I wish GM's would do 5-11 PM 1 raid mob per week random spawn in that window - would be battle royal in diff zones every day.

Plus TBH I don't even see anyone trying to take the mobs to begin with or contest - Holo hasn't really shown up at all, when a guild does we won't really be giving them the Nihi treatment - this is all a bunch of crap.

Look dude lets just take PD off the table ok? You guys are in the same place we were for a long time, people pretty much have things they want and there is a big loot cockblock at PD. Zerg the fuck out of PD if you want. Kill it on repop. Make it spawn at 4AM on a Tuesday...whatever it takes to hold that mob.

If we remove PD from the equation can we move on to Colgate's points and see if they are feasible for your guild?

[Kergan]

I want raid mobs left up so they will kill people wandering in their respective zones

8]

The threat of Inny aggroing through the floor is PoHate was real on live when sneaking along the wall. I miss it.

Nothing like seeing the Gore emote in DL and checking the zone list to see who is LD and about to get their shit pushed in.

[Buhbuh]

read first 2 pages and saw that the initial post with a positive outlook and ideas was being construed as some form of way to get ahead and to make the server less enjoyable.

status quo, sounds good.

we'll bring it up again next month.

[Swyft]

Look dude lets just take PD off the table ok? You guys are in the same place we were for a long time, people pretty much have things they want and there is a big loot cockblock at PD. Zerg the fuck out of PD if you want. Kill it on repop. Make it spawn at 4AM on a Tuesday...whatever it takes to hold that mob.

If we remove PD from the equation can we move on to Colgate's points and see if they are feasible for your guild?

Why would they with you, have you ever addressed any of their valid points about Nihilum being negative for the server?

Why do you always expect more from other's than your willing to give yourself?

[Heyitsme]

Why would they with you, have you ever addressed any of their valid points about Nihilum being negative for the server?

Why do you always expect more from other's than your willing to give yourself?

Somebodys got a Nihilum tunnel vision problem

How about viewing the proposal from the point of the server's best interest, is it good viewing it from that viewpoint?

Would it help the server to not get locked in a situation where one guild dominates content for long periods of time?

[krazyGlue]

I vote no .

[krazyGlue]

On a srs note you pals want better timers but a handful of dragons in and out of vp stay up for days at a time .
Start with those first

[Swyft]

Somebodys got a Nihilum tunnel vision problem

How about viewing the proposal from the point of the server's best interest, is it good viewing it from that viewpoint?

Would it help the server to not get locked in a situation where one guild dominates content for long periods of time?

Just a valid point, Colgate has the right to make such accusations, but Kergan defending him actually makes his post look hypocritical when you consider the kind of person who is backing him and the fact that Kergan only wants a logical response to propganda that personally benefits himself or the side of the fence he happens to be standing on atm.

If he wants unbiased responses then he needs to give some himself just once.

[Heyitsme]

Inb4 you dont play here why not move on

Even though i dont play here anymore i might play here and there once in a while and will probably play for at least a bit once velious is out.

Im in love with the idea of a 500+ player red server, because Rallos was so fun.

This is why i keep posting even though i technically dont play here, to get my 2 cents in about what i think would help the server grow.

I rip on Colgate when i think hes being an asshole but his proposal sure makes a lot of sense and id be an hypocrite ripping on it.

Now if people like Smedy can move on about "Nilly nuthuggers" and acknowledge that some in the alternatives guilds would push people into Nihilum, well be on to something.

[Swyft]

Inb4 you dont play here why not move on

Even though i dont play here anymore i might play here and there once in a while and will probably play for at least a bit once velious is out.

Im in love with the idea of a 500+ player red server, because Rallos was so fun.

This is why i keep posting even though i technically dont play here, to get my 2 cents in about what i think would help the server grow.

I rip on Colgate when i think hes being an asshole but his proposal sure makes a lot of sense and id be an hypocrite ripping on it.

Now if people like Smedy can move on about "Nilly nuthuggers" and acknowledge that some in the alternatives guilds would push people into Nihilum, well be on to something.

Well it's just the fact that you did defend Nihilum at every turn on the boards, when they were the most detrimental thing to server pop. So when you say your for increasing server pop, but defended everything that kept server pop low, it's a little hard for people to swallow.

It's gonna take alil more than a month to turn over a new leaf, but if it's truly your intention I'm sure strong efforts will reward you with a new perception of your character.

[Heyitsme]

Personally id never tag again with a guild that has Lite, Terp, Jib, anywhere near loot council decisions so yea, guild diversity is all to my advantage, but everyone else's too.

[Colgate]

everyone's a hypocrite here, myself included

but at the end of the day, do you guys want to keep perpetuating the things that made the server shit nearly three years now, regardless of which elf team is the one shitting it up?

[Vile]

not sure whey you think any of this is gonna work

[Vile]

why*

[Swyft]

everyone's a hypocrite here, myself included

but at the end of the day, do you guys want to keep perpetuating the things that made the server shit nearly three years now, regardless of which elf team is the one shitting it up?

Whoa Buddy not I! I've always stuck to my original purpose, an unbiased equal opportunity killer bent solely on creating rustle, and dissolving friendships.

Asshole certainly, sociopath positively, hypocrite no.

[Doors]

Yeah don't drink the koolaid, Lite is turning Azrael into the new zerg guild. 30+ for gore yesterday with a main emphasis on swarming for raid targets.

[Heyitsme]

everyone's a hypocrite here, myself included

but at the end of the day, do you guys want to keep perpetuating the things that made the server shit nearly three years now, regardless of which elf team is the one shitting it up?

Thats why i like your proposal, we have a chance here about a semi-clean slate, and would make me look forward to logging in once Velious hits if the stench would clear a bit.

Im guilty of being too negative sometimes, of branding people as toxic because it may make some new blood flee the server, but honestly its because i want to save them the grief of grinding to end up with a bunch of people like Swyft and Rellapse. It shouldnt have to be like this and with a little effort from everyone (bar the hopelessly toxic ones), if you truly want a thriving server where its populated at all levels and can have tons of fun PVPing it out, it could change. Colgate's proposal would sure help and ill try real hard to stay constructive at all times, thats where i can put some effort.

We dont have much to expect from above for changes, its gonna come from us at this point. Anyhow most things i thought went wrong (xp loss in pvp, xp nerf) were fixed.

[Swyft]

Im guilty of being too negative sometimes, of branding people as toxic because it may make some new blood flee the server, but honestly its because i want to save them the grief of grinding to end up with a bunch of people like Swyft and Rellapse.

Toxic when I'm logged in I give items away to noobs, help them lvl, give them ports. Heal and buff them depending on which toon I'm on. Do I later kill them when they're in range, of course but hey it's a pvp server.

I actually do stuff to help people starting out here, I don't just spew hollow words on the forums while spending all my online time raiding the next dragon to benefit my personal pixel fund.

[Heyitsme]

Well i dont know, your behavior on the forums of painting every nihilum as scum that deserves to be griefed off the server could have fooled me.

[Swyft]

Well i dont know, your behavior on the forums of painting every nihilum as scum that deserves to be griefed off the server could have fooled me.

Nihilum gone...server thriving...I was right, you were wrong! You still refuse to admit that.

[Mac Drettj]

http://media.giphy.com/media/YYRkVlmqo11MA/giphy.gif

Haha

[Sapphiay]

It's just winter and mass pvp is gone.

[Swyft]

It's just winter and mass pvp is gone.

The zerg is dead...pop is thriving..long live red99!

[Sapphiay]

Meridian59, server 103 has like 30 player more than in summer too now. About 50 every day.

[Swyft]

Meridian59, server 103 has like 30 player more than in summer too now. About 50 every day.

There is more lvl 10-30 new player's running around in rags then I've ever seen on red99. New player's on the boards, new player's in the game.

But lol why even keep this false pretense that you care? All you want is free pixels from your banned guild, you'd be perfectly happy if this server was only 30 Nihilum raiding dragons.

[Smedy]

With guilds like Holocaust, Blaze, and Eternal Light starting to field 15+ members regularly for raids and each guild continuing recruitment, it is only a short matter of time until there will be competition over the end game raid mobs. I am proposing the following things to keep the atmosphere away from becoming anything similar to what it was with Nihilum running the show. My aim is to keep the raid scene relatively casual, civil, and fun. I'd like this to be an open brainstorm session, and I'd like people to refrain from shitting this thread up and perpetuating the issues that this server currently has.

- Agreements not to over-recruit. Every single raid mob in the game can be killed with 4 or fewer groups. When your guild begins exceeding say 30 people at each raid, stop recruiting entirely. Numbers will naturally go down over time, and if they don't, I'm willing to bet that there is always a person or two in every guild that deserves to be kicked out. Nothing was worse than before where, at times, the only competition between Azrael and Nihilum was who could recruit more new players and sustain those numbers week after week. In the long run, this should lead to new guilds forming and even more chaos when several guilds are competing for the same mob(s), while lowering the chance that one single guild will monopolize content.

- Spread raid mob timers far apart to more reasonable times. This one is mostly directed at Azrael, considering they have all the important raid mobs on lockdown right now. Regardless of how you guys feel, a majority of the server does not want to wake up before noon on a Sunday. My idea would be to spread Venril Sathir, Phara Dar, Severilous, Innoruuk, and Cazic-Thule to different days entirely, and try to keep them in a more primetime slot. These are the only mobs that most of the raid scene cares about, and keeping them all on one day only promotes a winner-take-all environment that existed with Nihilum around. I think we all know that whoever won that Venril Sathir fight on repop day took every single raid mob thereafter 19 out of 20 times. When one side loses, many people often get demoralized and log off for the day, and then they have to wait 6 more days until they get another shot at any of the mobs they care to fight over. I believe that having the important raid mobs several different days of the week will keep more people logging in even if they lost the previous fight. It will create far more opportunities for mass PvP, thus lowering the odds that one guild will keep everything on lockdown.

- Keep it civil both in-game and on the forums. This will not only benefit the raid scene, but server population in general. Controlling your members who want to spam /ooc, shit up the forums, grief people on twinks, etc. will keep more newbies interested in leveling up to join us at the endgame. For instance, after mass pvp over a raid mob happens, the winning guild should kill the NPC, then offer to rez the opposing side's clerics and allow them to clear out. People should be cordial and not constantly give the community insight into whatever personality/social disorder they're currently suffering. Following this philosophy will allow us to police the server ourselves instead of relying on petitionquest every single day. If a guild foregoes this idea and decides that they'd rather act like pieces of shit, then the rest of us can make a concentrated effort to treat them like pieces of shit.

It's time to become men about it pals.

pras

[Swyft]

With guilds like Holocaust, Blaze, and Eternal Light starting to field 15+ members regularly for raids and each guild continuing recruitment, it is only a short matter of time until there will be competition over the end game raid mobs. I am proposing the following things to keep the atmosphere away from becoming anything similar to what it was with Nihilum running the show. My aim is to keep the raid scene relatively casual, civil, and fun. I'd like this to be an open brainstorm session, and I'd like people to refrain from shitting this thread up and perpetuating the issues that this server currently has.

- Agreements not to over-recruit. Every single raid mob in the game can be killed with 4 or fewer groups. When your guild begins exceeding say 30 people at each raid, stop recruiting entirely. Numbers will naturally go down over time, and if they don't, I'm willing to bet that there is always a person or two in every guild that deserves to be kicked out. Nothing was worse than before where, at times, the only competition between Azrael and Nihilum was who could recruit more new players and sustain those numbers week after week. In the long run, this should lead to new guilds forming and even more chaos when several guilds are competing for the same mob(s), while lowering the chance that one single guild will monopolize content.

- Spread raid mob timers far apart to more reasonable times. This one is mostly directed at Azrael, considering they have all the important raid mobs on lockdown right now. Regardless of how you guys feel, a majority of the server does not want to wake up before noon on a Sunday. My idea would be to spread Venril Sathir, Phara Dar, Severilous, Innoruuk, and Cazic-Thule to different days entirely, and try to keep them in a more primetime slot. These are the only mobs that most of the raid scene cares about, and keeping them all on one day only promotes a winner-take-all environment that existed with Nihilum around. I think we all know that whoever won that Venril Sathir fight on repop day took every single raid mob thereafter 19 out of 20 times. When one side loses, many people often get demoralized and log off for the day, and then they have to wait 6 more days until they get another shot at any of the mobs they care to fight over. I believe that having the important raid mobs several different days of the week will keep more people logging in even if they lost the previous fight. It will create far more opportunities for mass PvP, thus lowering the odds that one guild will keep everything on lockdown.

- Keep it civil both in-game and on the forums. This will not only benefit the raid scene, but server population in general. Controlling your members who want to spam /ooc, shit up the forums, grief people on twinks, etc. will keep more newbies interested in leveling up to join us at the endgame. For instance, after mass pvp over a raid mob happens, the winning guild should kill the NPC, then offer to rez the opposing side's clerics and allow them to clear out. People should be cordial and not constantly give the community insight into whatever personality/social disorder they're currently suffering. Following this philosophy will allow us to police the server ourselves instead of relying on petitionquest every single day. If a guild foregoes this idea and decides that they'd rather act like pieces of shit, then the rest of us can make a concentrated effort to treat them like pieces of shit.

It's time to become men about it pals.

It's a nice idea and it would be good for the server, but it's a pipe dream, if Holo wants to contest they are gonna have to recruit bottom line. Anything else is just wishful thinking.

[krazyGlue]

please give us free raid mobs on our terms. thanks

[Colgate]

isn't this basically the same thing what azrael asked for in the 400 variance threads they made?

[krazyGlue]

isn't this basically the same thing what azrael asked for in the 400 variance threads they made?

i am pro variance. period

[Heyitsme]

please give us free raid mobs on our terms. thanks

Theres a difference between changing the time where a mob spawns and allowing people to kill it uncontested...

[Drakaris]

I like your idea Colgate, but two things:

Keep it civil both in-game and on the forums. this can never be achieved - too many egos/nut jobs........ and Eternal Light and Prophets of Slosh ARE Azrael.

So currently the proposal for fielding less then 30 people is not happening, and it's covered by some loose veil breaking the guild down in to ranks; i.e feeder guild/alt's guild. There might be less then 30 people on in Azrael @ raid times but their zerg "protection/plan" is already in full swing. Roster is def 50+ when needed.

But having said that it has been fun times on the server: if there was a chance that some agreement could be worked out between guilds it would be great for all but I doubt it.

Preach it brother... This guy is 100% spot on...

[Colgate]

one of the main reasons azrael wanted variance was to avoid a guild keeping mobs at a time where other guilds couldn't contest

right now azrael is keeping them at a time where the opposing guild can't contest

?

[krazyGlue]

one of the main reasons azrael wanted variance was to avoid a guild keeping mobs at a time where other guilds couldn't contest

right now azrael is keeping them at a time where the opposing guild can't contest

?

if 11am est isnt good enuff for you then nothing will be. sorry pal

[Colgate]

okay elderan

[Swyft]

Eternal light has what 10-15 members, Prophets of Slosh the same, Azrael has double.

So in realty your looking at a Guild Alliance that can field 60 members for raid. If they had any intention of sharing end game pixels there would be no alliance.

If holocaust wants to compete they are going to need to form an alliance themselves or recruit. Bottom line, that's just the way it is, any arguments over it are just a lesson in futility.

[Vharvest]

The grandmaster continues to inspire with his infinite wisdom

[Dacuk]

who the hell are prophets of slosh

[Silent]

if 11am est isnt good enuff for you then nothing will be. sorry pal

I laughed irl at this post krazy, This was seriously funny. Being a former nihilum member myself, I can't count how many times I read posts of Azrael members and other resistance players whining when someone from nihilum said something similar to this. And now Azrael is pulling straight out of nihi hand book. Its just awesome.

[Tassador]

I laugh how you all play this game for only items and big raid mob to rmt to each other to buy weed with that money and then talk about bank accounts and how hard you are what good grammar yet stuck on a 15 year old elf sim playing kunark for 3 years straight.

Mental illness is real time to look in the mirror fuckers.