Should AoN be nerfed? Classic V balance

[lite]

Trak tooth, soul fire, golem wands and other things were all changed from their classic state since it became evident they were way too powerful. AoN is no different.


Meleeing : Not seeing someone's name absolutely fucks with depth perception. Jousting someone with and without an AoN is day and night.

Detection: In mass PVP if you have an AoN it is so easy to basically disappear in the crowd. Your survival is increased by 100% with this item... its dumb. If you've played with one, you know it.

The additional clicky that doesn't require targeting yourself or being equipped is already super poweful. A raid force with a significant number of these has their chances of winning increased dramatically...

Guilds playing the catch up game will have a retarded time going up against those with this item.


PS .. as you all know I own one, and Azrael has about 6, and getting more each repop, just in case people are wondering.

[dis_mornin]

Gyno has three AoNs and he might be worst PvPer on box...

[lite]

Gyno has three AoNs and he might be worst PvPer on box...

never seen him pvp

[ricquire]

and Azrael has about 6, and getting more each repop, just in case people are wondering.

Sounds like RNF material.

[georgie]

working as intended

[HippoNipple]

I don't have one, so yeah I would like them to be nerfed.

[Gaffin 7.0]

dont have one please nerf

[Andis]

Trak tooth, soul fire, golem wands all chargeable items, meaning they have charges

aon does not

besides thats the beauty of an aon

[Swyft]

Trak tooth, soul fire, golem wands and other things were all changed from their classic state since it became evident they were way too powerful. AoN is no different.


Meleeing : Not seeing someone's name absolutely fucks with depth perception. Jousting someone with and without an AoN is day and night.

Detection: In mass PVP if you have an AoN it is so easy to basically disappear in the crowd. Your survival is increased by 100% with this item... its dumb. If you've played with one, you know it.

The additional clicky that doesn't require targeting yourself or being equipped is already super poweful. A raid force with a significant number of these has their chances of winning increased dramatically...

Guilds playing the catch up game will have a retarded time going up against those with this item.


PS .. as you all know I own one, and Azrael has about 6, and getting more each repop, just in case people are wondering.

Where's you thread on them cracking down on dual boxing and MQ use, huh white knight? or do you only cry about the rules you don't break?

[mygodno]

this dude Lite, cries everyday in every thread for like 6 months straight and then gets uncontested loots and then stops posting.

Now that he has free reign on loots is this going to be his new harping stone?

I love reading the hate on this forum now, because Lite is no where but I am going to have to find a new forum to read if his little bitch ass is back.

[Potus]

No but we can totally nerf Melee damage and buff DoTs. Also pets in PvP need buffed significantly.

[Genedin]

No but we can totally nerf Melee damage and buff DoTs. Also pets in PvP need buffed significantly.

[Darksinga]

LOL.

Is this srs?

[Zalaerian]

Voted no because it benefits me

[bigeasy]

more non classic changes from lite,, dudes on fire.

let's worry bout releasing some more content to get people re-engaged than rehashing the same shit over and over until you get what you want,, server a running joke top guild disbanded 2nd tier guild now on top by no effort of their own more VP geared players on this server than total ever on any live server real classic

[Not_Kazowi]

Trak tooth, soul fire, golem wands all chargeable items, meaning they have charges

aon does not

besides thats the beauty of an aon

What? This is the dumbest post I've read ever


Also: lite just can't play the game and shut up, dude posts troll thread after troll thread looking to stir the pot with some tears of his own mixed in.

Didn't you just get your forum account back? You must want it banned again

[Pikrib]

What? This is the dumbest post I've read ever


Also: lite just can't play the game and shut up, dude posts troll thread after troll thread looking to stir the pot with some tears of his own mixed in.

Didn't you just get your forum account back? You must want it banned again

Lite told me he loves your tears the most Rexx.

He says they taste better than all the rest.

[Not_Kazowi]

Lite told me he loves your tears the most Rexx.

He says they taste better than all the rest.

Are you bipolar or something bro? Other day you're sending me tells about how you miss hanging out in TS like old times and then on forums you're on troll mode

[Uuruk]

I think it's sad you still eat and breathe this box.

[mugien]

AoN was never nerfed in live,short of a name above head; and if a name above someones head makes you better at jousting yer fuckin' awful.

[Kergan]

AoN was never nerfed in live,short of a name above head; and if a name above someones head makes you better at jousting yer fuckin' awful.

Not all classes joust bro. No name above your head is a pretty big deal in PVP.

[Elspeth]

rexx so mad, going to keel over from high BP any day now.

[Greegon]

idk, i mean, typically dont we all just fill in that little window full of hotkeys with /target and /assist and such? not being able to see the name you cant really gauge where they are without a target ring though i guess

[Greegon]

SUP NIGSPETH

[Silent]

For a completely honest reply, I voted no. Skeleton form is there for a reason and its a nice distraction at that, However I would RATHER have a target circle added in like future EQ had. But yes chasing people in AoN is pretty annoying in certain areas, ie I chased beastagor thru KC underwater the other day and even after snare poison landing and him getting a shadowstep off by time I saw him in the water poison was off, and between those skeleton mobs on him(which do look different) it was still lol trying to look.

edit - as Knuckle just posted a prime example of pvp video, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZLJRDVVdsI . Obviously you can customize target rings if they are added to game, but in mass pvp like that it makes finding 1 person in 80 so easy.

[magician]

never seen him pvp

thats because he is the pve general of holocaust u stupid fuck

[Potus]

Necros need all the help they can get. Call of Bones forever.

[Pikrib]

Are you bipolar or something bro? Other day you're sending me tells about how you miss hanging out in TS like old times and then on forums you're on troll mode

Yar I miss the old times, no bull shit.

but

Rexx you take FQ WAY to serious. This is a place to poke fun at your frenemies.

Enjoy FQ for what it is---absolutely meaningless banter, lies, slander, spin and propaganda.

[hint]

http://i.imgur.com/HfGgbAj.jpg

[Swish]

http://i.imgur.com/HfGgbAj.jpg

heheh

[Buhbuh]

Yar I miss the old times, no bull shit.

but

Rexx you take FQ WAY to serious. This is a place to poke fun at your frenemies.

Enjoy FQ for what it is---absolutely meaningless banter, lies, slander, spin and propaganda.

I rustled Stasis pretty hard yesterday morning. For some, it's actually real, preoccupying hate.

[Kergan]

I dunno, I get this feeling that the people we think are always rustled and getting worked up constantly are the ones chortling the hardest at their masterfully executed reverse double trolls.

[LostCause]

i got one and nope you can't borrow it gonna rott in my inventory forever.

[Vharvest]

http://i.imgur.com/HfGgbAj.jpg

FUCK THIS IS THE BEST POST EVER

[Not_Kazowi]

Yar I miss the old times, no bull shit.

but

Rexx you take FQ WAY to serious. This is a place to poke fun at your frenemies.

Enjoy FQ for what it is---absolutely meaningless banter, lies, slander, spin and propaganda.

so im supposed to take personal rl attacks from you about my wife? naw sounds like u taking fq too srs pal

[Not Salem]

lol rexx is SO rustled who cares what someone on an elf sim forum says about your wife hahaha

[Not_Kazowi]

not rustled just not going to deal with bipolar borderline personality disorder people that buddy up to me in game then talk rl shit on forums.

[GoldScar]

more non classic changes from lite,, dudes on fire.

let's worry bout releasing some more content to get people re-engaged than rehashing the same shit over and over until you get what you want,, server a running joke top guild disbanded 2nd tier guild now on top by no effort of their own more VP geared players on this server than total ever on any live server real classic

1st tier guild got to 1st because of constantly breaking rules and a years long RMT ring. "2nd tier" guild is technically the legit, official 1st place guild buddy. Unless you think Lance should get his Tour de France medals back...

[Buhbuh]

Can someone explain to me how RMTing to people in your own guild as opposed to the alternative of just giving that loot away to people in the guild is going to effect the server in any crazy dramatic way? Would that gear have magically not been in Nihilum's hands still?

I think people are conflating their hate for unduly content control and hording of every important world mob with the nearly inconsequential infractions (as far as the server dynamic is concerned) made by the leader of Nihilum. This idea of "RMT scheme" hardly, if at all, effects the server despite its veracity or falsehood.

Far more damaging to the server (which many people were vocal about within the guild) was Nizzar's over zealous attitude toward killing-every-mob-and-killing-it-now-on-the-spot-it-cannot-wait. Still, that wasn't illegal. It definitely had an indirect effect on the server, though.

All of you sound really unintelligent when you fumble with the ways in which Nihilum was "bad." It doesn't mean I don't agree or disagree with you about any of it, it's just a general awareness thing.

GM's care about RMT not for the reasons this community does. From a fundamental standpoint, RMT actually creates more population. People that would otherwise quit are selling shit to someone new or old, keeping them more or less immersed. Now, did they earn it? Fuck no. But that isn't necessarily harmful.

[Voodudadde]

Yar I miss the old times, no bull shit.

but

Rexx you take FQ WAY to serious. This is a place to poke fun at your frenemies.

Enjoy FQ for what it is---absolutely meaningless banter, lies, slander, spin and propaganda.



Fact that you go through life living like this simply because you're hidden behind a computer is a pretty sad statement as to the condition of modern man. Just be a piece of trash with no integrity whose word means absolutely nothing because ya' can! It's fun! Everyone else does it so I may as well also! You people are pathetic excuses for 'men' and are going to sadly have to look back one day and realize it was your own stupidity, ignorance, and indifference to the evil all around that caused your destruction. Sad products of being raised by the state while parents tend to their own selfish desires. Woe unto you people. Don't try to deny that you're just as big a piece of crap in your day-to-day life out in the real world either. I know you people and I know your works

Tell a guy you miss his companionship only to turn around and bash him while you have a platform for others to see? Seeking the vain commendations and meaningless approval of mindless halfwits? Entertain yourself by rewarding evil for good? I tremble for you my friend. May the Lord have mercy on your soul

[thugcruncher]

voted no, there's ways around it

someone can call out a target, /target it, and your friendly jewish enchanter buddy can spam his alliance clicky so all the melees can target them easier

[Pikrib]

Fact that you go through life living like this simply because you're hidden behind a computer is a pretty sad statement as to the condition of modern man. Just be a piece of trash with no integrity whose word means absolutely nothing because ya' can! It's fun! Everyone else does it so I may as well also! You people are pathetic excuses for 'men' and are going to sadly have to look back one day and realize it was your own stupidity, ignorance, and indifference to the evil all around that caused your destruction. Sad products of being raised by the state while parents tend to their own selfish desires. Woe unto you people. Don't try to deny that you're just as big a piece of crap in your day-to-day life out in the real world either. I know you people and I know your works

Tell a guy you miss his companionship only to turn around and bash him while you have a platform for others to see? Seeking the vain commendations and meaningless approval of mindless halfwits? Entertain yourself by rewarding evil for good? I tremble for you my friend. May the Lord have mercy on your soul

Good counter troll. Whos anon account is this?

If this is not a troll you seem way to immersed in FQ. I recommend that you take a break from the boards for abit.

[Pikrib]

so im supposed to take personal rl attacks from you about my wife? naw sounds like u taking fq too srs pal

I never made personal attacks on your wife. I did say my wife was better looking, but she is... Sorry, that isn't a RL attack....

On the contrary your wife is a good lookin lady and I would not kick her outta bed. =)

[Grimjaw]

voted no, there's ways around it

someone can call out a target, /target it, and your friendly jewish enchanter buddy can spam his alliance clicky so all the melees can target them easier

or just remove the line for skeletons from your GlobalLoad.txt - boom no more skeletons.

[Kergan]

I will not play in a world without skeletons, that is a clear terrorist victory.

[heartbrand]

or just remove the line for skeletons from your GlobalLoad.txt - boom no more skeletons.

this seems like borderline cheating?

[Pikrib]

this seems like borderline cheating?

This seems like actual cheating.

[Grimjaw]

well, the thread that discussed the topic was posted on these forums:

https://www.project1999.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-1033.html

But I am being told that the method discussed doesn't even work anymore.

[Mac Drettj]

kew stew brew

[Voodudadde]

Good counter troll. Whos anon account is this?

If this is not a troll you seem way to immersed in FQ. I recommend that you take a break from the boards for abit.

See my 14 total posts? 13 of those were in exploit forum. This was pretty much the very first thread I've read that doesn't involve a GM helping me with something and likely will be the last. I usually don't spend any time on forums and even less replying to the sad people which spend their days lingering about on them.

I am no one's 'anon account' seeing as how this is my only account and it was created so I could play EQ - not post on dumb ass forums. I'm just a random guy who happened across your comments and I meant every word I said in reply. Have a good one

[Pikrib]

Fact that you go through life living like this simply because you're hidden behind a computer is a pretty sad statement as to the condition of modern man. Just be a piece of trash with no integrity whose word means absolutely nothing because ya' can! It's fun! Everyone else does it so I may as well also! You people are pathetic excuses for 'men' and are going to sadly have to look back one day and realize it was your own stupidity, ignorance, and indifference to the evil all around that caused your destruction. Sad products of being raised by the state while parents tend to their own selfish desires. Woe unto you people. Don't try to deny that you're just as big a piece of crap in your day-to-day life out in the real world either. I know you people and I know your works

Tell a guy you miss his companionship only to turn around and bash him while you have a platform for others to see? Seeking the vain commendations and meaningless approval of mindless halfwits? Entertain yourself by rewarding evil for good? I tremble for you my friend. May the Lord have mercy on your soul

See my 14 total posts? 13 of those were in exploit forum. This was pretty much the very first thread I've read that doesn't involve a GM helping me with something and likely will be the last. I usually don't spend any time on forums and even less replying to the sad people which spend their days lingering about on them.

I am no one's 'anon account' seeing as how this is my only account and it was created so I could play EQ - not post on dumb ass forums. I'm just a random guy who happened across your comments and I meant every word I said in reply. Have a good one

Relax man. Laugh a little bit.

Wow, sorry I honestly thought this was a counter troll. Anyone else think this was a troll besides me?

[Eslade]

Relax man. Laugh a little bit.

Wow, sorry I honestly thought this was a counter troll. Anyone else think this was a troll besides me?

I lol'd either way.

[Not_Kazowi]

I never made personal attacks on your wife. I did say my wife was better looking, but she is... Sorry, that isn't a RL attack....

On the contrary your wife is a good lookin lady and I would not kick her outta bed. =)

I'm not going to dig because I don't care they much but you took some jabs at me along the lines of Russian bride or paying for her.

I'm not that upset just don't play buddy buddy in game then 180 on the forums. I don't know who this guy calling you out is sorry

[Sektor]

I'm not going to dig because I don't care they much but you took some jabs at me along the lines of Russian bride or paying for her.

I'm not that upset just don't play buddy buddy in game then 180 on the forums. I don't know who this guy calling you out is sorry

You mean 360?

[Not_Kazowi]

You mean 360?

Ya don't do a 360 on me

[Buhbuh]

I heard about the 360. What they read was that? Need a laugh.

[Buhbuh]

Thread* too. Fuckin autocorrect

[Colgate]

i think it was the one where i called out andis on begging to join holocaust

[Not_Kazowi]

Yeah it's the one where Andis gets made a bitch and confuses 360 with a 180 and then defends it because he's autistic or something

[Cid]

Until you all go back to playing on dialup and stop using Vent and TS, perhaps we should all stop using the word Classic as a reference to something that you only want the parts of that you like or see as beneficial for yourself.

The true classic Everquest experience isn't the picture in your head that has been warped by years of nostalgia and the selective memory that everyone has.
Verant didn't even allow compound names or anything that wasn't proper for a high fantasy setting. I know because I had to delete my first toon or have my account banned when I didn't change his name from Bigmidget.

If you really want the Classic EQ experience, then either go all in or find a different angle from which to bitch about it.

I am forced to use dialup and cannot use Vent or TS, and it hasn't stopped me leveling multiple toons to 60 and several more into the 50s. If you can't practice what you preach, you should stop preaching.

I know the people whom most need to take what I said to heart are those least likely to pay attention or care. Which is why even though I am one of the nicest and most helpful and accomodating people you will ever meet in game, I would probably ignore you if I were a GM based solely upon the hypocrisy of what you are asking for and what you actually want.

[heartbrand]

You just managed to make an entire 7 paragraph post that had literally nothing to do with what the thread is about. Also you manage to mention how you're the nicest guy on the server in just about every single post you make.

[Colgate]

my brother had to change his character's name from "Ateam" to something else by the time he hit level 9 because of the TV-show

yet his real life friend spent about two years playing a character with the surname "Cunilingusmaster" and never had to change it

[LulzSect]

I can totally see a neckbeard GM not know what his surname meant back then.

[GoldScar]

Can someone explain to me how RMTing to people in your own guild as opposed to the alternative of just giving that loot away to people in the guild is going to effect the server in any crazy dramatic way? Would that gear have magically not been in Nihilum's hands still?

There's a reason illegal, covert payment and rewards in college, high school, or Olympic sports is a serious crime. The playing field is ostensibly propelled by the sport itself, not monetary or ulterior gain. If one college team can pay it's team salaries, while the others are playing just to play the game, you think that doesn't change things?

[Buhbuh]

Bad comparison. Nihilum controlled and weren't going to share the gain to any other players. The fact that it was divvied out by RMT instead of just openly giving it to members of Nihilum makes no difference. That only hurts/ effects Nihilum.

[Mac Drettj]

Cid such a huge meatball.

[Cid]

You just managed to make an entire 7 paragraph post that had literally nothing to do with what the thread is about. Also you manage to mention how you're the nicest guy on the server in just about every single post you make.

First, learn to count. Jewish people are supposed to be good with numbers. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 paragraphs.
Second, I do not give a flying fuck about Amulet of Necropotence or what you think is a proper subject for a response.

As for me saying I am one of the nicest people on the server consistently, it could be because it is the greater part of my personality in or out of the game. It would be like you saying "I am a self-serving bitch" in almost every post.
I am not feeling particularly nice tonight, and I am beyond tired of your pretentious bullshit where you act like you don't have your head stuck so far up your own ass that you could do a visual prostate exam.

You don't have the right to criticize, chastize, condescend or even question ANYONE on this server. You might actually be the worst fucking person, not player, person, on this server. You couldn't handle being even partially selfless for more than a couple of months in the last incarnation of Red Dawn you bailed on as Leader and that was with people sucking up and stroking your ego.
I might be an elitist dick or whatever else people perceive me as but I made a choice and I have stayed the fucking course while you turned tail and ran back to Nihilum, probably to gear another alt at the expense of others' main characters.

And to top it all off, you make repeated Boxing topics and try to act like you want boxing made legal to help newbies and not yourself. Fuck you! You weren't farming gear to give away or spending hours at a time checking 200 merchants for words to make free spells or items that could help out a newb. Some of your guildies in Nihilum told me they would have quit Red entirely if it hadn't been for me helping them out purely for the sake of helping someone in need.
You've probably caused as many people to quit as I have managed to encourage to keep playing.

I hope you get blue waffle Heartbrand, because you are a piece of shit.

How's that for nice?


P.S. Blue waffle = NSFW and I advise against anyone looking it up. You have been warned.

[runlvlzero]

lite, soccer was questionable in sexuality way b4 the world cup series this year btw