Sharks in Qeynos Aquaducts leave poll, float through air, and kill me.

[Wizardling]

Bad enough I fell for the long forgotten bullshit no-win kill a newbie hahaha crap of the rogue guild dropping you into the shark pool through a false floor. Ok, THAT I could deal with. But to then run all the effing way back from Halas, requiring slooooooooow hide and sneak past gnolls, only to die AGAIN on CR because the sharks levitate out of the water and kill me in a bullshit bug... well, it's crap like this that drives me to not bother logging in for a while. I mean why even bother if it's multiple no win situations that we've known since the dawn of human civilization are not fun, one after the other, making the game essentially unplayable in reasonable terms? One gotcha by original devs I can take, and re-learn after all these years. Not multiple bullshit moments one after the other.

So is this BS really classic? Fish levitating out of water to slaughter everyone who foolishly thinks the world might possibly behave in a sensible fashion?

[Whirled]

It is known (and possibly classic?). I have seen this & also killed fish on land also after being chased in Loio or other watery spots with unfriendly floaters.

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=138785&highlight=fish+land

[JayN]

Barbarians have a tough life try making a dwarf or halfling rogue

[Tobius]

Yet they spend time taking light blue cons away, while leaving flying fish and broken inert potion quest.

I do think being 'classic' is important, but their priorities are fucked up imo.

[nilbog]

http://i62.tinypic.com/2mo6rrc.jpg

There has been recent discussion amongst devs about water npcs. It did happen in classic, but I'm not saying it should.

It's being looked into, but it's not an easy fix because there are pathing concerns.

For everything that wasn't a bug report in here, I don't give a fuck/keep it to yourself.

[Ele]

http://i62.tinypic.com/2mo6rrc.jpg

we're gonna need a bigger boat

[Daldaen]

God damn that UI is so classic. I can just hope one day this server has that UI built in and required.

[Grimjaw]

Bad enough I fell for the long forgotten bullshit no-win kill a newbie hahaha crap of the rogue guild dropping you into the shark pool through a false floor. Ok, THAT I could deal with. But to then run all the effing way back from Halas, requiring slooooooooow hide and sneak past gnolls, only to die AGAIN on CR because the sharks levitate out of the water and kill me in a bullshit bug... well, it's crap like this that drives me to not bother logging in for a while. I mean why even bother if it's multiple no win situations that we've known since the dawn of human civilization are not fun, one after the other, making the game essentially unplayable in reasonable terms? One gotcha by original devs I can take, and re-learn after all these years. Not multiple bullshit moments one after the other.

So is this BS really classic? Fish levitating out of water to slaughter everyone who foolishly thinks the world might possibly behave in a sensible fashion?

classic EQ not for this guy

[Wizardling]

Right, because I have not played EQ for a decade and a half, and this isn't my ninth alt here on 1999, Grimjaw. Clearly I'm not classic material, given all that. It's not that stupid bugs are killing me, it's that I can't hack classic.

Anyway, after returning AGAIN on my second CR, I was successful, but then killed a few minutes later when I became stuck between a bridge and wall in the Qeynos Aquaducts, with a giant rat beating on me. I died a third time - the second due to a bug, after only a couple minutes with my gear again.

I have no problem dying due to my own stupidity, Grimjaw, and I can handle dying because the original devs thought I should learn via death about a false floor (hahaha! Yeah, that was never funny in a location frequently by new toons). That only mildly pisses me off. What I DO find difficult to deal with is running back - taking a good half an hour - only to immediately die due to a moronic bug - true classic or not, it's just plain bad - and then, to die a THIRD time minutes after another half hour run back on CR, due to yet another freaking bug - this time being caught on scenery while a mob beats the shit out of me.

I enjoy classic EQ. I like difficulty - the fear of significant setback adds an edge to death that makes trying to stay alive and avoiding death a real buzz, and achievements in the face of that all the sweeter - unlike virtually every modern MMO excepting Eve Online, of course.

What I do not like is dying for purely bullshit reasons, and frankly I could care less if that's true classic (I don't recall if flying fish really were present way back, but hey - maybe they were. I never spent much time fighting water mobs - I never liked the way swimming works in EQ). I didn't like dying due to getting trapped in scenery while in a fight a decade and a half ago (that I DO recall), and I sure as hell don't enjoy it nowadays. It adds nothing to the game, unless you call swearing at the stupidity and pointlessness of a death a classic experience worth having. I don't.

Death should happen because _I_ failed. Not because the game failed. True classic or not, my vote - for whatever that's worth - is to also fix classic bugs. Bugs mind you. Not remove difficulty that ought to be there. But situations where the game fails in buggy fashion.

[olalonde]

how many times have i been killed by mobs walking through walls and shit like that rofl welcome to p99

[paulgiamatti]

Haha, this thread rules.

Yeah P99 is buggy - it's an emulated EQ server - but it's the best you've got for a true classic EQ experience. Fortunately the guides are quite forgiving and will even give you a full exp rez after you've looted your corpse if you send out a /petition in game and have the patience to wait for them to respond.

But yeah, CR sucks. Anyone who plays here knows how much it sucks to spend hours getting your corpse because of a bug.

[kaos057]

fish attacking on land: classic
mobs walking through walls: not classic (and very annoying)

[Wizardling]

Well again - I could give a damn about fish flying out of water being classic. It was a bug then, it's a bug now. Anyone with an ounce of sense can see that. Are we to truly to put up with everything Verant never got around to fixing, just because they were too focused on expansions, instead of fixing issues and finishing content?

As to mobs walking through walls - while that didn't feature in this instance as a bug that annoyed me, I note that once attacked these wall phasing mobs seem to path correctly - not walking through a wall to escape me. So why can't they do the same when just behaving normally?

[Thulack]

Well again - I could give a damn about fish flying out of water being classic. It was a bug then, it's a bug now. Anyone with an ounce of sense can see that. Are we to truly to put up with everything Verant never got around to fixing, just because they were too focused on expansions, instead of fixing issues and finishing content?

As to mobs walking through walls - while that didn't feature in this instance as a bug that annoyed me, I note that once attacked these wall phasing mobs seem to path correctly - not walking through a wall to escape me. So why can't they do the same when just behaving normally?

You need to relax man. Every one of your posts is you raging about something then someone jabs at you and you get even more mad. Need to have a thick skin here if your gonna survive. Shit's classic is the most given response you will get here. If you can't deal with that then just stop posting.

[Ele]

Are we to truly to put up with everything Verant never got around to fixing, just because they were too focused on expansions, instead of fixing issues and finishing content?

I hope so.

[paulgiamatti]

I would definitely argue in favor of fixing easily fixable classic bugs like flying fish, assuming they're easily fixable. I'm all in favor of reliving the *true classic experience* and everything, but I mean I can assure you I had absolutely zero fun in 1999 when I boarded the boat to Erud's Crossing only to be eaten alive by an airborne killer shark a few moments later.

Are we to truly to put up with everything Verant never got around to fixing, just because they were too focused on expansions, instead of fixing issues and finishing content?

And what do you suppose the P99 developers are focused on? :P

[Wizardling]

I would definitely argue in favor of fixing easily fixable classic bugs like flying fish, assuming they're easily fixable. I'm all in favor of reliving the *true classic experience* and everything, but I mean I can assure you I had absolutely zero fun in 1999 when I boarded the boat to Erud's Crossing only to be eaten alive by an airborne killer shark a few moments later.



And what do you suppose the P99 developers are focused on? :P

Primarily bugfixes and better classic features, I hope. Then getting Velious playable when they're not improving current content.

[chayes]

Sharknado isn't classic EQ, but equally as funny as this thread

[Wizardling]

I can't believe that's a real movie. Is it actually worth a watch just for laughs?

[chayes]

If you like "terrible" movies, yes.
I think sharknado (1) was intended to be a good sci-fi B movie. Instead it is terrible trash.
Sharknado 2 was made to be cheesey/funny and comes across as total crap

[Vega]

http://i62.tinypic.com/2mo6rrc.jpg

Boats have always been a little buggy, I'm not shocked to see a classic shot of a shark on a boat. But did they actually come up on land it classic too? (No idea if they did or didn't, genuinely curious).

[Arkaan]

OP needs to quit whining. These guys are developing p99 for you FREE OF CHARGE. Yet many people still feel entitled to complain as if they were a paying customer.

Yea it's a bug. Great, post about the bug, but damn stop crying!

[kaev]

OP needs to quit whining. These guys are developing p99 for you FREE OF CHARGE. Yet many people still feel entitled to complain as if they were a paying customer.

Yea it's a bug. Great, post about the bug, but damn stop crying!

Whining about dying to a bug IS :classic: pal, we didn't call the official boards Whineplay for no reason. OP is just doing his bit to help recreate the :classic: atmosphere.

[chayes]

Now imagine the load screens taking 3 to 10 times longer, D/C because someone picked up the phone line in your house and your dial-up failed, and you couldn't google anything useful!

[Wizardling]

I'll tell you what's classic: whinging about other people complaining about bugs as if pointing out flaws somehow damages your precious investment in your pixels. So congrats Arkaan - you're a true classic player.