WTB Velious - willing to donate (crowd funding new expansion?)

[toolshed]

In order to support the staff and server bills in this time before Velious launches, I was wondering if it would help to start a kickstarter-like campaign to raise money for server costs. The devs/GMs could come up with an amount that would pay the bills for a certain amount, and we could try and raise that money.

I understand that this is a hobby server, but a lot of people really love playing on this p1999 server and want to support in whatever way they can. Not all of us have the time to dedicate to the test server, doing quests or raiding.

[Rhambuk]

you could pay the playerbase to simply play on beta, im sure people would be willing to give up their time for a few $$

[Thulack]

In order to support the staff and server bills in this time before Velious launches, I was wondering if it would help to start a kickstarter-like campaign to raise money for server costs. The devs/GMs could come up with an amount that would pay the bills for a certain amount, and we could try and raise that money.

I understand that this is a hobby server, but a lot of people really love playing on this p1999 server and want to support in whatever way they can. Not all of us have the time to dedicate to the test server, doing quests or raiding.

How about you just donate using the donate button on the main screen. Don't need a kickstarter for it. All the money goes to paying for the server equipment, bandwidth, all that other crap.

[toolshed]

How about you just donate using the donate button on the main screen. Don't need a kickstarter for it. All the money goes to paying for the server equipment, bandwidth, all that other crap.

Having a goal amount helps get people to donate who normally would not donate. Also, having a goal, ie a new expansion, further incentivises people to donate if they want the goal; lots of people want a new expansion and would donate for further/faster development of it.

Weird gimmicks work for fundraising. Look at the ice bucket challenge.

[Daldaen]

I'd prefer they release Velious with good updates rather than sloppily.

Like... 255 resist cap and classic UI $$$.

[Argh]

Donating money won't make the expansion come out any quicker. Beta testing will though.

But you should donate anyway.

[Tenlaar]

Unless you're going to donate enough money for them to quit their jobs, how do you think this is going to make anything happen faster?

[Tankdan]

you could pay the playerbase to simply play on beta, im sure people would be willing to give up their time for a few $$

I'm no Dev, but lack of beta players isn't the reason it's not finished at this point. Everything outside of a couple mobs have been killed/attempted multiple times. Some mobs are overtuned, and are still overtuned after weeks and weeks of testing. Pathing has been bad, not sure if that's fixed or not. What else are we suppose to do? If they let us know what to test that'd help a lot more than Klandicar wipe #29 despite how jokingly easy that dragon was on live with 5-6 groups. Bad pathing in zones like DN has been well documented. I don't follow beta progress that much so I have no clue what is being done and what really needs to be tested. Maybe Devs need to communicate with playerbase on what needs to be tested and what is working as intended.

[Thulack]

I'm no Dev, but lack of beta players isn't the reason it's not finished at this point. Everything outside of a couple mobs have been killed multiple times. Some mobs are overtuned, and are still overtuned after weeks and weeks of testing. Pathing has been bad, not sure if that's fixed or not. What else are we suppose to do? If they let us know what to test that'd help a lot more than Klandicar wipe #29 despite how jokingly easy that dragon was on live with 5-6 groups.

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[toolshed]

I'm no Dev, but lack of beta players isn't the reason it's not finished at this point. Everything outside of a couple mobs have been killed multiple times. Some mobs are overtuned, and are still overtuned after weeks and weeks of testing. Pathing has been bad, not sure if that's fixed or not. What else are we suppose to do? If they let us know what to test that'd help a lot more than Klandicar wipe #29 despite how jokingly easy that dragon was on live with 5-6 groups.

I thought that's what this was: http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=157067

Seems a lot of it is still incomplete. A lot of it seems like lengthy quests and I just don't have the time to go around doing long quests (that require raids) on a test server unfortunately.

Unless you're going to donate enough money for them to quit their jobs, how do you think this is going to make anything happen faster?

Valid point but I don't think having too much money saved up would be a bad thing for p1999. More people will probably start playing once the expansion comes out, and that means more bandwidth and higher server operational costs.

[Thulack]

I thought that's what this was: http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=157067

Seems a lot of it is still incomplete. A lot of it seems like lengthy quests and I just don't have the time to go around doing long quests (that require raids) on a test server unfortunately.

well money isnt going to help anything.

[toolshed]

well money isnt going to help anything.

This is untrue for any other situation in life, so I doubt that it is valid here.

People are pumped for Velious to come out - to not use it as a fundraising opportunity would be egregious. More people are going to be coming back once Velious comes out, more people = more bandwidth = higher server operational costs.

[Thulack]

This is untrue for any other situation in life, so I doubt that it is valid here.

People are pumped for Velious to come out - to not use it as a fundraising opportunity would be egregious. More people are going to be coming back once Velious comes out, more people = more bandwidth = higher server operational costs.

Sorry had to lol at that....Newflash some people in this world don't see money as a way to fix/solve everything. But back to the point. Dev's can't accept money to quit their jobs to work on beta more so yes money can not solve this problem.

[a_gnoll_pup]

This is untrue for any other situation in life, so I doubt that it is valid here.

People are pumped for Velious to come out - to not use it as a fundraising opportunity would be egregious. More people are going to be coming back once Velious comes out, more people = more bandwidth = higher server operational costs.

It is untrue in this situation. You have to work to create Velious, and that's a matter of time, not money - Velious won't come any faster because you gave Rogean 50 bucks. Much of the issue lies in testing.

Paying people to do work would result in this project being shut down faster than a TMO batphone text message.

Be patient, and test Velious on the beta server - If you want it, help it come to fruition by testing instead of thinking of ways to get SOE's lawyers on the project's ass.
Don't have 'the time to do that'? Hire a private firm of Project 1999 game testers and have them do the work for you. Rogean and nilbog do not have to be involved for you to manage that if you have more money than you know what to do with.

[toolshed]

Sorry had to lol at that....Newflash some people in this world don't see money as a way to fix/solve everything. But back to the point. Dev's can't accept money to quit their jobs to work on beta more so yes money can not solve this problem.

Sorry had to lol at you thinking like a naive idealist without addressing my very real point about how server operational costs are likely to go up and using this opportunity to fund raise would make sense.

Can't believe the backlash to this idea. I would love to see a dev come in here and say 'hey we have all the money we could ever need'

[Thulack]

Sorry had to lol at you thinking like a naive idealist without addressing my very real point about how server operational costs are likely to go up and using this opportunity to fund raise would make sense.

Can't believe the backlash to this idea. I would love to see a dev come in here and say 'hey we have all the money we could ever need'

No one is saying you can't give money. We are just saying that you giving money isnt going to make velious come out quicker.

[picaro11]

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