Greengrocer Motion to Authorize Meat-Spin

[Juntsie]

UPDATE: Wise Honorable GM Sirken, having reviewed Greengrocer Motion to Authorize Meat-Spin, ORDERED issuance of the permit finding Greengrocer meat-spin lawful cuz not gambling on da TwitchTV on August 25, 2014. IT IS SO ORDERED.

MOTION

Juntsie, counsel for Greengrocer, hereby move for GMs to post public statement (the "permit") authorizing Greengrocer to perform meat-spin.

MEMORANDUM

I. Introduction

Dis Motion about allowing Greengrocer to operate lawful meat-spin game whereby person pay nominal, token fee, and Greengrocer spin random wheel and give person meat. Dis Motion brought in response to recent, well-intended and reasoned, GM policy barring casino to prevent RMTing. GM should grant motion and allow meat-spin cuz it not gamble/casino, it unrelated to RMTing, it well-established server tradition, and meat good for community.

Because meat-spin not gambling or casino and have no nexus to RMTing, Greengrocer request permit to authorize meat-spin. Permit will not harm community. In fact, community will benefit cuz more meat. Everyone love meat. It taste gud. Juntsie love meat. There is gud cause to grant permit.

II. Facts

Meat important part of community. It good protein, and keep people happy. Meat sell for nominal fee, usually less dan 10 plat per meat, unless very rare, like dragon meat.

Greengrocer operate lawful meat-spin. It well established server tradition. Member of community pay nominal, token fee to Greengrocer to cover his operational costs, with almost no room for profit, to provide meat-spin service. Person basically pay Greengrocer for meat. Den Greengrocer spin wheel and give person da meat dat match. Dis not gambling.

Greengrocer also provide community with food for reasonable price. One of few merchant who provide food. Without Greengrocer, Juntsie's expert determine dat community only eat ration, which lack nutrients. Juntsie's expert anticipate dat increase health cost will incur.

Earlier this week, GM ban casinos to stop RMT sales. Not disclose how related but state good cause. Greengrocer does not dipsute dis action.

III. Analysis


GM afforded wide discretion to authorize act and determine violations. GM afforded discretion to issue permit or statement authorizing activity when ambiguity exist under rules. Anti-casino policy ban casino dat accept large sum of plat for chance to win more plat or item. Policy intended to stop RMTing.

Meat-spin not casino or gambling. It simply payment for meat of variable type. Meat guaranteed. Person pay for meat - dey not pay for chance to get more plat or item. Dey purchase meat. Meat-spin unrelated to RMT or inflation of plat. It have no bearing on issue. It create no problem.

Norrath public policies support meat-spin. Meat-spin provide many with meat. It help proliferate rare type of meat. It encourage people to bake. Dere is no dispute dat meat gud. Meat-spin make tummy happy. Meat-spin well-founded server tradition. Honorable GMs should issue Greengrocer meat-spin permit.

CONCLUSION

For reasons above, Greengrocer request permit for meat-spin.

DATED: August 21, 2014.

[Portasaurus]

I am Greengrocer and I approve this message.

Juntsie, I love you.

[mtb tripper]

yeah juntsie is real cool

[Susvain2]

portasaurus has the best deals all day. he always fills up a nice bundle for me. and if not, theback is always in stock

[Juntsie]

Juntsie add dat he welcome supplemental briefing on issue and amicus briefs.

[Olscratch]

Meat-spin well-founded server tradition.

As much as I love greengrocer, so are legitimate casinos. Providing trustworthy item transfers, entertainment, and giveaways on P99 and Classic EQ Live for years.

[Kekephee]

Juntsie, I've got a real good feeling about you

I stand vindicated in my good-feeling-about-this-guy-having


SAVE GREENGROCER

[captnamazing]

I am testifying on behalf of the Defendant, Greengrocer. I am incapable of epic adventures and sweet RP threads if my belly is full of suboptimal meats. Filbus is not a good cook, and has relied heavily on Greengrocer's culinary expertise to power his daily adventures.

[Juntsie]

As much as I love greengrocer, so are legitimate casinos. Providing trustworthy item transfers, entertainment, and giveaways on P99 and Classic EQ Live for years.

Juntsie respectfully move to strike comment of Olscratch cuz it not ripe for adjudication. Narrow issue of meat-spin before GMs. Issue of casino not before GMs. Casino entirely unrelated cuz meat-spin not casino.

Dis motion and thread about meat-spin and protecting meat-spin rights.

[Kekephee]

http://i.imgur.com/KjGqsGT.gif

[Juntsie]

I am testifying on behalf of the Defendant, Greengrocer. I am incapable of epic adventures and sweet RP threads if my belly is full of suboptimal meats. Filbus is not a good cook, and has relied heavily on Greengrocer's culinary expertise to power his daily adventures.

Juntsie move to have Filbus testimony added to meat-spin motion judgment record. Juntsie confer with Filbus and he declare dat testimony is sworn.

[Estu]

A+ post.

[Kekephee]

Greengrocer's philantrophic programs in rural East Commonlands are responsible for the feeding of countless individuals who were unable to buy innkeeper goods by the tunnel due to systemic racial issues. Without Greengrocer, trolls, iksar, and ogres would have no means by which to obtain food except through third-party channels that have proved to be rife with exploitation.

[Juntsie]

Greengrocer's philantrophic programs in rural East Commonlands are responsible for the feeding of countless individuals who were unable to buy innkeeper goods by the tunnel due to systemic racial issues. Without Greengrocer, trolls, iksar, and ogres would have no means by which to obtain food except through third-party channels that have proved to be rife with exploitation.

Juntsie hereby submit sworn testimony of community philantrophic, race relations, and food-distribution expert, Kekephee, to meat-spin motion record. Kekphee expert cuz he observe act of giving meat and other tum-tums in da tunnel. Juntsie submit Kekephee declaration attaching CV as exhibit if GM need.

[Lictor]

No idea what law school or firm thought you to draft motions but good lord they did you an injustice.

[Kekephee]

Juntsie hereby submit sworn testimony of community philantrophic, race relations, and food-distribution expert, Kekephee, to meat-spin motion record. Kekphee expert cuz he observe act of giving meat and other tum-tums in da tunnel. Juntsie submit Kekephee declaration attaching CV as exhibit if GM need.

I will further testify that as a member of the Erudite community I have first-hand experience with the dynamics of race-relations on a socioeconomic scale in Norrath, and in addition to this perspective I also have first-hand experience with regards to the distribution of foodstuff by Greengrocer. Additionally, I bring forth the testimony of Grumphilda Whoopinstein, to whose nuptual ceremonies Greengrocer provided catering free of charge:

Aye, if t'weren't far auld Greengrocer, 'twould'a been a morbid affair. Me fathar Hammerbeard spent all'a the wedding funds on ale and wine and forget completely to buy food! When the suitors showed up, t'were nary a leg of mutton tae feed them, which is a huge problem when the first sons a' such respectable Kaladim families as House Vicobrime, Clan Weaselfang, Clan Poonanifuck, and House Brickleg gather tae compete in physical combat, battlin' and slayin' and wrasslin' fer the hand'a a maiden. Thanks be tae Brell that Greengrocer showed up, unrequested, and started passin' out nibbles! I offered tae compensate him from the very dowry the suitors were fightin' far, and his answer were, 'Nae, lass, keep yer silvers and gold- 'tis good enough fer Greengrocer tae see the smiles on yer beautiful dwarfen faces." Nary a man in Norrath can lay claim to such generosity and such a strong givin' spirit as that one, and I'll slice the arse off'a any man who dares tae call me a liar on this matter!

A'caurse, the weddin' feast ended with ol' Filbus returnin' from his watery grave and slaughterin' everybody left 'n' right, but that's neither here nor there and has nae bearing on the matter at hand, that bein' the fate of auld Greengrocer.

[Kekephee]

No idea what law school or firm thought you to draft motions but good lord they did you an injustice.

And how many troll law degrees do YOU have?

[kruptcy]

I think this is warrants a whitehouse.gov petition.

[Kevris]

At Dial-A-Port, we support our local community in many ways, most specifically by providing reliable and low-cost travel options to exotic and far-away destinations for all.

As responsible members of the Project 1999 Business Community, we support Portasaurs' efforts to ensure that quality meats are readily available for all, and hope that the GM's will quickly rule in favor of continued meat-spins.

Dial-A-Port is proud to speak on behalf of this valued service, and hope that after your belly is filled with a delicious meal from Portasaurus, you'll call us to get you to your prefered raiding or grouping destination.

-McPorty Express

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

Portasaurus is a saint and is the only true loss as consequence of the new law.

[Juntsie]

At Dial-A-Port, we support our local community in many ways, most specifically by providing reliable and low-cost travel options to exotic and far-away destinations for all.

As responsible members of the Project 1999 Business Community, we support Portasaurs' efforts to ensure that quality meats are readily available for all, and hope that the GM's will quickly rule in favor of continued meat-spins.

Dial-A-Port is proud to speak on behalf of this valued service, and hope that after your belly is filled with a delicious meal from Portasaurus, you'll call us to get you to your prefered raiding or grouping destination.

-McPorty Express

Juntsie hereby make motion to permit filing of aforequote amicus brief of Dial-A-Port in support of Greengrocer Motion to Authorize Meat-spin. Brief will help GM resolve issue by expanding on how Greengrocer meat spin impact inter-Norrath commerce.

[daasgoot]

http://www.peta.org/

[mtb tripper]

http://www.peta.org/

[bktroost]

Please move this to a sticky so that it never disappears. I will reread this post many times in future late night sessions.

[JayN]

down with these low life scums addicted to gambling; lord have pity on these souls

[Swish]

So was that meatspin site Greengrocer's idea? It's all becoming clear :p

[Ereni]

Let the men have their meat so that they can continue to feel manly!

[Pheer]

give me meat or give me death

[Juntsie]

Juntsie communicate Greengrocer's appreciation for wide community support for meat-spin. Dis outcry underscore how much meat matter to community.

Juntsie publically disclose dat he send the Honorable Lizard GM Derubael da following communication:

"Juntsie make motion on behalf of Greengrocer in support of meat-spin on public server chat forum. Juntsie request dat honorable-wise GM Derubael make public ruling on motion to resolve meat-spin controversy.

Juntsie appreciate honorable GM Derubael's time and just acumen."

Juntsie hope da Honorable Lizard GM Derubael issue ruling soon granting meat-spin permit to Greengrocer.

[Portasaurus]

Juntsie communicate Greengrocer's appreciation for wide community support for meat-spin. Dis outcry underscore how much meat matter to community.

Juntsie publically disclose dat he send the Honorable Lizard GM Derubael da following communication:

"Juntsie make motion on behalf of Greengrocer in support of meat-spin on public server chat forum. Juntsie request dat honorable-wise GM Derubael make public ruling on motion to resolve meat-spin controversy.

Juntsie appreciate honorable GM Derubael's time and just acumen."

Juntsie hope da Honorable Lizard GM Derubael issue ruling soon granting meat-spin permit to Greengrocer.

Greengrocer have backup plan.

[Kytross]

From what I've read, conversion of dollars to platinum is the issue. If I understand the meat spin process there is no platinum involved, only meat and cooked meat. If that's the case the meat spin does not meet the criteria for the ban.

But check with the local magistrate.m..com/watch?v=KezvwARhBIc

[Whirled]

what about fish?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KezvwARhBIc

[Portasaurus]

what about fish?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KezvwARhBIc

fish spin is Velious.

not even joking

[Portasaurus]

Got it.

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[Juntsie]

Juntsie, in abundance of caution, advise GreenGrocer to not do cookoff challenge until GM issue clear ruling on dis issue. Server cannot risk not have Greengrocer.

[SenoraRaton]

In the issue of equality and fairness I request an addendum to the proposal of approval of said meat-spin to have a rider to the bill including the provision of a parallel and equal Vegtable-spin. It is crucial that we provide for the diverse dietary choices of Norrath in this proposal. Please do not forget those whom can not, or do not eat of the meats!

[JayN]

shut it down da grocer is turdy dirty; he traffics in norrathian salves that leads to such illicit, illegal, unnatural and unholy meats dwarf, elf and human meat, among others! this guy deserves the death penalty or at the very least life imprisonment

[harnold]

I'll second that I also don't think this should be legal.

[Clark]

I approve this message.

Juntsie, I love you.

[Whirled]

On a semi-similar note:
I've slaughtered hundreds of barbarians and never once saw 1 racial meat drop.
Are certain races tougher to get than others?

[myriverse]

On a semi-similar note:
I've slaughtered hundreds of barbarians and never once saw 1 racial meat drop.
Are certain races tougher to get than others?
I don't think meat actually drops from barbarians. You have to get it from spiders, I think.

Anyway... I support a meatier Norrath. Spin! Spin! Spin! Especially if it's froggie.

[Lifebar]

http://i.imgur.com/KjGqsGT.gif

I once helped defend Greengrocer's store from a bandit named Ched. He would run down the aisles, squishing all the soft rolls and breads. He even assaulted the clerk.

GM's Do the right thing: keep casinos illegal--but reclassify MeatSpin as a nonbanned type of activity.

Don't let years of answering petitions and dealing with unappreciative assholes destroy your sense of wonder! Remember the first time you ever logged in! Remember the feeling of never knowing what was around the next corner or across the next zoneline. It could be dragons, or monsters, or a humble young halfling offering you sandwiches from a little stand, in a little tunnel, in a little make-believe world we call home.

[JayN]

down with slave trade norrathian meats ! free the meats

[Bill Tetley]

no poll?!

[Swish]

There'll always be Redgrocer pals, give him a try.

[captain]

As a satisfied customer of greengrocer I sign and swear to his legitimacy and am in favor of allowing him a permit to continue conducting business.

[Juntsie]

Juntsie hereby move for expedited GM decision on pending motion. Greengrocer require information about wether meat-spin is lawful activity. Permit for meat-spin should issue cuz it not casino or gambling, as explained above.

[Kytross]

On a semi-similar note:
I've slaughtered hundreds of barbarians and never once saw 1 racial meat drop.
Are certain races tougher to get than others?

Barbarians and Erudites are humans and drop the appropriate human blood and meat/parts, whatever the item is called.

[Clark]

Free the meat-spin!!

[Portasaurus]

Barbarians and Erudites are humans and drop the appropriate human blood and meat/parts, whatever the item is called.

This conversation is bordering on proprietary Nomsanto Industries™ trade-secrets. If you want to know more about this subject, I suggest putting in an app (http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=133576).

[Oleris]

Sirken just said that meat spin was not gambling on twitch chat. Juntsie write motion to allow meat spin

[Clark]

Sirken just said that meat spin was not gambling on twitch chat. Juntsie write motion to allow meat spin

Praise the heavens and praise the meat-spin.

[Portasaurus]

GMs: I would like to respectfully request that this thread (http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=136924) be unlocked and "bumped for legality" please.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhEGO7IT1Dg


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[captnamazing]

Dumgorf died for NOTHING

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

GG/RG is a saint. May his meat-wheel spin for 1000 years.

[Juntsie]

Juntsie issue public comment on just, historical ruling by wise GM Sirken:

Community thrilled to hear GM confirm dat meat-spin lawful. Meatspin not gambling. It valuable asset to community and will enjoy protected status for all-time. Juntsie add historic meat-spin case to CV and use as reason to charge increased legal fee rate.

[PDX0621]

I petition that a petition be made to have all your licenses added to your name in game.

[drktmplr12]

Juntsie, counsel for Greengrocer, hereby move for GMs to post public statement (the "permit") authorizing Greengrocer to perform meat-spin.

please let this happen

edit: it did.

[brecon]

I petition that a petition be made to have all your licenses added to your name in game.

This