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Beethoven
08-18-2014, 08:04 PM
I know this has been suggested before, and has already happened somewhat on Red, but with some people complaining about wanting a wipe and with a steady sub-180 server population, i think this is a much better option.... or at least it's a start.
I suggest that Every weekend (or every other weekend) the staff increases EXP received (in all ways) by DOUBLE!!
That means, with near 100% certainty, MANY more current players will be logging in on the weekends (and more often) AND it is certain that many NEW players from Blue or elsewhere (via word of mouth/staff announcement) will be making their first characters on the weekend when the exp is amazing and while the noobie population is sure to be thriving.

Thus, you create a situation where old/newcomers alike will keep playing brand new (or old) chars because every player will have the weekend boost to look forward to. That means more people solo grinding and more people looking/finding/making groups; more noobs; more population; and more fun for everyone.
I know Red's exp rate was raised already, but we saw the boost that little change gave Red. Even people like me (and many others I know) came back from not playing EQ anymore, just because of the exp raise, and ended up being here to stay.

Think about it..... yes? no?(Voter's names are not public, so feel free to vote honestly)
Also, please explain why you think it's a good idea or bad
Call me crazy, but it just might work.




OR ,, Here is an update for all you care-nots who don't like reading any of the ideas/posts/opinions that take more than 5 seconds to read
HIGHER exp rate and/or tiny increase in drop rate on weekends= Profit!!

http://www.47reviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/evercrack.jpg

Or will this thread end up in the loony bin?

Eslade
08-18-2014, 08:12 PM
Naw

Beethoven
08-18-2014, 08:30 PM
Why not? Explain thyself! :(

Eslade
08-18-2014, 08:43 PM
Xp is stupid fast already.

georgie
08-18-2014, 08:58 PM
Yes or boost solo xp. It's a fucking joke and not worth leveling without a grouo

Eslade
08-18-2014, 09:04 PM
You want bluebies to play here, I'll tell you how you get them; increased drop rate weekends. Bluebies are retarded for pixels.

Beethoven
08-18-2014, 09:06 PM
What x(times) is it compared to original as of now? It's not that fast
Even so, this is just for the weekend, or even every other weekend to boost the population, which i think it undoubtedly will.

The proof is in the pudding, meaning look at how many people came back to play when the exp was permanently raised. Also, haven't they had exp weekends before (Even week long events) where the rate was higher than it is now anyways?

If it doesn't work it can always be stopped. I personally don't see any down side to it.

Beethoven
08-18-2014, 09:08 PM
You want bluebies to play here, I'll tell you how you get them; increased drop rate weekends. Bluebies are retarded for pixels.

That's actually not a bad idea either, I'd thumbs up that one.
and nevermind bluebies, all types of players would come here for either of these ideas.

Eslade
08-18-2014, 09:12 PM
That's actually not a bad idea either, I'd thumbs up that one.
and nevermind bluebies, all types of players would come here for either of these ideas.

Naw, the only people left to come to the server are bluebies.


Brobb's idea has my vote. Maybe a cap on how many 57-60 toons you can have per guild.

Beethoven
08-18-2014, 09:14 PM
If Red gets a decent chunk of additional people leveling up, the more guilds we'll get, and the more everyone wins!! Hell, might even get an entire guild to come here if something is done to make red more enticing to the average joe.

Beethoven
08-18-2014, 09:15 PM
You can probably forget about Nihilum splitting in half and fighting eachother unless there is a serious problem within the guild which splits them up, or lack of leadership roles. I don't see that happening any time soon. But then again, I have no idea what goes on in that guild

Mac Drettj
08-18-2014, 09:21 PM
OH GOD YES

YESSS

OHHHJJJJ YEEAAAHHH

Beethoven
08-18-2014, 09:25 PM
OH GOD YES

YESSS

OHHHJJJJ YEEAAAHHH

Exciting prospect isn't it? :D
Now go change your underwear :eek:

Bazia
08-18-2014, 09:27 PM
takes a week to get 50

guess we could bring that down to 4 days

who cares servers needs more 50+

Beethoven
08-18-2014, 09:33 PM
takes a week to get 50

guess we could bring that down to 4 days

who cares servers needs more 50+

A week if you are hardcore.
and what about from 50-60? MUCH Longer!
I bet they could change the boost for different level ranges as well.

Something should be done to entice noobie players AND higher lvl players alike, this seems like a good bet.

Clark
08-18-2014, 09:37 PM
Been a while since last bonus.

Kergan
08-18-2014, 09:47 PM
Not really agreeing or disagreeing, but saying "xp is fast already" means you just miss the point. Go take a marketing class.

Eslade
08-18-2014, 09:52 PM
Not really agreeing or disagreeing, but saying "xp is fast already" means you just miss the point. Go take a marketing class.

Nope, xp is fast enough. All that you're going to do if you increase it on the weekends is have people play just in the weekends, and most will quit at about 40. Faster xp isn't the answer and it's short sighted.

Telron
08-18-2014, 09:59 PM
Pop sucks because about 10% of the population of EQ players like solo-quest.

Pitborn
08-18-2014, 10:05 PM
Pop sucks because server is full of toxic, tranny porn spamming douchebags and there is no options except joining the largest/ only zerg guild to experience any raid content.

All the xp bonus in the world wont change that.

Buhbuh
08-18-2014, 10:51 PM
fu

no chewie dont
08-18-2014, 10:52 PM
as much as i like to take credit for the drastic population reduction in early months perhaps guards not assisting had a little to do with it?

Bazia
08-18-2014, 10:59 PM
a level 12 mage could wait for you at your skill trainer or bank and delevel you for hours with an earth pet if they found your bind

Potus
08-18-2014, 11:28 PM
Guards not assisting. EXP Loss for pvp death. No exp bonus to compensate. Horrible resist coding. An insane number of bugs. Little to no GM support.

I think there is other stuff I'm missing. Having people sitting at character creation spawn point and perma-rooting level 1s to death was just dumb.

Super Hater
08-18-2014, 11:57 PM
Yes or boost solo xp. It's a fucking joke and not worth leveling without a grouo

Eslade
08-19-2014, 12:01 AM
People that don't group deserve to get less xp. Of course Hateraid would want more solo xp. Nobody good wants to group with him.

Dullah
08-19-2014, 12:05 AM
Pop sucks because server is full of toxic, tranny porn spamming douchebags and there is no options except joining the largest/ only zerg guild to experience any raid content.

All the xp bonus in the world wont change that.

Boo hoo.

We had pvp on every repop and sim repop in the last 2 weeks. If people can't get 30 people to fight another guild in Everquest, you should probably just find another game to play.

Mac Drettj
08-19-2014, 12:05 AM
rushing to 60 is a huge let down

thats why the pop sucks

enjoy the ride

the journey

embrace it

Husalah
08-19-2014, 12:11 AM
Pop sucks because server is full of toxic, tranny porn spamming douchebags and there is no options except joining the largest/ only zerg guild to experience any raid content.

All the xp bonus in the world wont change that.

toxic poster

Telron
08-19-2014, 12:12 AM
Its not that people choose not to group its that there is literally not a whole lot to pick from.

Only thing that makes EQ PVP Fun is players playing. Otherwise its a shitty version of blue with no one to play with.

Eslade
08-19-2014, 12:13 AM
rushing to 60 is a huge let down

thats why the pop sucks

enjoy the ride

the journey

embrace it

This
I don't know why you'd want to race to 60 as a new player. If you hit 60 too fast you're going to be an undegeared 60 on a pvp server. Good luck with that.

Beethoven
08-19-2014, 12:14 AM
What we need is a zerg of noobies, who can level up easy, who by the time they level up to 50+ they are literally stuck and don't want to play any other character/server, because they LOVE the char they made HERE and want to KEEP pursuing the work they've put into it because after getting over 50+ they can AND WILL see how fun and serious business this server can and WILL be

Beethoven
08-19-2014, 12:27 AM
What needs to happen is this server has to be created into a "more than blue" friendly server. By that I mean that it has to entice people MORE than the blue server does. Ppl who are casual or noobie players go on blue simply because there are more people to group with at ALL times, thus easier to level at all times. There needs to be SOME incentive besides just PvP to bring people here or else it will always and forever be a sub-population server....

Think about it GMs.... This is the actual FUN server, yet no one plays here.... why?? Because there isn't a great population.... there is a GREAT core pop, but not enough to make the average Joe come here over Blue. I seriously HATE to say it.... because i don't believe in EQ fun unless there is PvP involved, but there HAS to be a reason OTHER than PvP for people to join this SPECIAL (And it is Freaking special compared to ALL other EQ servers) server.

The DEVs and GMs can make this into something that has NEVER been seen before in the history of Private Everquest PvP Servers.

This server has INSANE potential, because it's more than just pixel gathering. Uber 1337 people from Blue WISH they could play here.... i know it! But it's just Too Easy to choose the Blue path when looking at the population


Make this into something better than Blue and it will become more than you could possibly imagine!

/seriousness_off

Eslade
08-19-2014, 12:29 AM
This just crossed into TLDR territory.

silo32
08-19-2014, 12:29 AM
OP is under Level 60 and can only play on weekends

silo32
08-19-2014, 12:29 AM
that's what I got after 4 pages of not reading chit

Beethoven
08-19-2014, 12:33 AM
This just crossed into TLDR territory.

Well if you freaking care then read it! If you don't then stop telling us your opinion on the conversation.

Sorry but it's true :(

Eslade
08-19-2014, 12:39 AM
Well if you freaking care then read it! If you don't then stop telling us your opinion on the conversation.

Sorry but it's true :(

You don't listen to anybody unless they support you, so why would I bother reading a few paragraphs of you talking about the same thing you had in page one? This whole thread is you repeating the same points over and over. The problem isn't getting new players, it's keeping them. Getting instant 60 will make people care less about their toons because there is very little time invested.

Eslade
08-19-2014, 12:44 AM
Excuse me for not living in the past.
And excuse me for not only believing....... but Actually Knowing that this server can not only 'catch up' to the Blue Server in population, but completely replace it as the best p1999 server there is.

Sorry dude, but blue players don't want to play here for various reasons and that's the only population we can take people from at this point. Fix why bluebies don't want to play here while keeping current Red players happy and you'll get your people.

It's impossible btw.

Danien
08-19-2014, 12:49 AM
Consistently having exp weekends is stupid. You always have that feeling like you're wasting your time whenever it's not active, and I doubt it would attract many more people in the first place. Events that last for a fixed amount of time seem to have a short term effect but nothing so substantial as to make a difference on its own at this point.

Beethoven
08-19-2014, 01:00 AM
Eslade you are wrong. The problem is NOT 'keeping our players' because we have a core base. Today there was over 180, more than I've seen in awhile. We need MORE population....... More and More and More and More until there are no more to get.



Re-Read my posts and you'll see why this is completely possible to get Blue players here.

The difference between you and I is that you want to focus on the people who already play here ONLY, and I want to focus on BOTH the people who play here AND all the people who play everquest but don't play here (whom are ALL reachable my friend, whether you like it or not). I know for a fact that if there was more incentive to play HERE than BLUE, that this server would BLOW UP more than anyone thought was possible.

Although I respect your opinion.......That's My theory, and this is My Post.....

And I know even Bluebies would agree with me. Don't you think they get bored over there??? Not being able to do anything with their pixels except be 'inspected'?? What server should they choose if both are almost basically the same besides there is PvP on the much less populated one?? At least add some bonuses on the PvP server and you will DEFINITELY find more and more and more people joining it because it's easier to PvE, and THUS Simultaneously EASIER TO PVP.

Trust me, they would ALL love to show off their gear in more than just the visual way. All of them just need a PUSH, whether it be my suggestion, or any other that brings them this way.... I believe ALL Everquest players have PvP in their heart.... They just need the right situation to find themselves in.

Beethoven
08-19-2014, 01:04 AM
Maybe I'm wayyyy to involved in this idea.... and actually, i know I am. But I've been a part of other private server games and have been seriously involved in the development side and have seen and Know how MANY server populations die and thrive based on the choices they've made.

I'm just giving my opinion as someone who has seen this kind of thing over and over and over, who is trained to think long term when it comes to competing MMO servers. In this case, we're challenged with bringing the best Everquest PvP server up to or over-par with the best Everquest PvE server..... Because it seems like the only logical and best solution to me.

If you are fine with the server population as it is, and don't want anyone to out-zerg Nilly, that is your problem--- NOT the rest of the server's

Eslade
08-19-2014, 01:06 AM
Got through 2 paragraphs and gave up. I said we had to retain the new players. God knows we have a lot of red lifers already. Once again, what this server needs is to attract blue players long enough to change servers permanently. Figure out how to keep new players and you solve the problem. Xp weekends won't work the way you think they will. Neckbeards will only level their alts in weekends and leave the new players you did hook with a very low pop and slower leveling with crap gear. Bluebies love gear and hate being pvp'd. But sure let's implement faster leveling on top of the crazy rate we already have...

Dullah
08-19-2014, 01:15 AM
More population comes with more content in Everquest pvp servers. If people just want to reexperience the game, they usually go to blue. If people want to reexperience pvp, they come to red. PvP servers have always made up less than 10% of the overall EQ pop, and we do well to have 10-20% of the pop here that blue has.

We'll see a pop upwards of 300+ come velious. If you really want to increase red pop, help find things to test to get Velious out faster.

Smedy
08-19-2014, 01:19 AM
here we go, newly formed nutswinging extravaganca

Join Date: Jun 2014

ok guy, tell us how to fix the server that we haven't already tried before

my solution to fixing box

variance (temporary until nutswinging bluebie zergs have disbanded their warm bodies they have on team just to sit on spawns and avoid pvp by having insane numbers in play)

fixing resist for nukes, tone it the fuck down, melee damage, tone it the fuck down , pvp is suppose to take strategy not be a click fest who can hit nuke the quickest, remember mass pvp that lasted 2-3 hours? yeah... not on red99, 80v80 turns out to last like 10 minutes if only that here on red99

perma ban the real offenders, people who have been previously exiled from blue and banned a handful of times on red99, why do we have to deal with them seriously?

allow training: yes.... it's easier to just allow training then to have people run fraps and diplomacy quest on the forums and whomever has best faction with said gm wins, fuck that, just let everyone play and let us sort it out our selves, allowing training also promotes smaller elite group of people getting shit done without having to force themselves to group with shitty people (lets face it 80% of red99 pop is shitty people).

for future: once server and several of guild factions have formed from ruleset above, set semi static timers for dragons again, make it static with a 3 hour variance window to allow for people to show up and pvp early before the spawn happens, but keep a slight variance to discourage massive zerg guilds destroying the server.

smedy for gm 2014, all issues are fixed now people, i will be ur supreme leader

Barladore
08-19-2014, 01:19 AM
Have not read one of OP's posts

Beethoven
08-19-2014, 01:22 AM
here we go, newly formed nutswinging extravaganca

Join Date: Jun 2014

ok guy, tell us how to fix the server that we haven't already tried before



Yes, all powerful - all knowing one, tell me all about how you know every single person and when they started by their current forum char creation date.

You are such genius...... except no

Eslade
08-19-2014, 01:23 AM
To get bluebies to play you have to give them bluebie shit. Like give them a title on blue for getting a pvp toon to 60. You have enough ocd neckbeards to get a steady stream of bluebies.

Beethoven
08-19-2014, 01:30 AM
Have not read one of OP's posts

People who don't care to read, don't belong commenting on this topic. Plain and simple

Smedy
08-19-2014, 01:30 AM
i edited my post stating the facts that would ultimately lead to a healthy late end red99 , u may kneel before ur supreme leader

i would rule this shit with an iron fist u kno

Beethoven
08-19-2014, 01:35 AM
Ok, i agree that your mighty opinions are just as valid as my own, or anyone else here for that matter. But for now I'm going to go with the Giant Red Motto:
HIGHER exp rate and/or slightly higher drop rate on weekends = profit!

Eslade
08-19-2014, 01:37 AM
Ok, i agree that your mighty opinions are just as valid as my own, or anyone else here for that matter. But for now I'm going to go with the Giant Red Motto:
HIGHER exp rate/ HIGHER drop rate/ LOWERS spawn times/INSTANT 60/TRANSLOCATORS/PLANE OF KNOWLEDGE= Thee Ultra Server

Bazia
08-19-2014, 01:38 AM
eslade is right red dawn 2.0/uprising/random_newbie_guild_024 were good examples of a bunch of people leveling to 50+ fast and then just randomly quitting after a bad day or something

Hamburgalur
08-19-2014, 01:43 AM
5x exp would be pretty damn awesome, you know it.

Beethoven
08-19-2014, 01:46 AM
Not asking for a GM server here dolt. The changed rates can be determined by a trained staff and team of developers combined with community input.

Even to the best ideas there are always giant nay-sayers who try to keep things in the past, and try to keep things their way, how they like them. Sometimes their advice is heeded and sometimes it is not.

“You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time”
-Lincoln



But let me just say, I'm totally FINE with how things are now. I would just like to see things be brought to their full potential, not just become stale and whither away to nothing because a couple of outspoken people with thousands of posts don't like the idea of minor change.

Smedy
08-19-2014, 01:50 AM
isn't beethoven a nihilum sympathiser?

Beethoven
08-19-2014, 01:55 AM
Leveling 1-60 extra fast DOESN'T COUNT when (Among other ways) Bards were leveling people by low-HP kiting when it wasn't nurfed.... I know for a Fact TONS of People were leveled to 60 within the not too distant past via this method ----- LOTS of Nilly.

So the people who leveled that way, have absolutely NO appreciation for what it actually takes to level up from 1-60 on this server. So don't act as if they didn't get power leveled entirely by these unorthodox methods everyone knows existed ---> which are now nurfed and out of game.

Long story short.... Let me just say that getting leveled from 1-60 or 50-60 the easy do-nothing way by an all powerful guild doesn't really count when considering this subject, because you have really never known the struggle of doing it by yourself on the entire array of different classes, that ALL new players will have to endure if there was a flood to this server.

Colgate
08-19-2014, 02:14 AM
tldr

Smedy
08-19-2014, 02:25 AM
no clue who this guy is but i'm pretty sure he needs to queue up and stop posting

the duke awaits you my friend, pras the duke

Buhbuh
08-19-2014, 02:29 AM
you're getting trolled by two people who don't play here anymore, beethoven.

Beethoven
08-19-2014, 05:03 AM
Isn't Smedy Agatha?

Swish
08-19-2014, 06:32 AM
If there wasn't already a group bonus this would be a good idea.

Humerox
08-19-2014, 06:37 AM
There's only so much that can be done for the server. Esl was right...it's not about getting players it's about keeping them, and that is up to the community.

Which also explains why there hasn't been much server growth. The only people that can make the server enjoyable are the players.

On the other hand I still log in occasionally and can't help thinking how amazing it is that there's almost 200 always playing. It's about perspective, dawgs.

Visual
08-19-2014, 06:37 AM
MAYBE if YOU emphasize more it will help get YOUR point ACROSS

Humerox
08-19-2014, 06:40 AM
truth

no chewie dont
08-19-2014, 08:08 AM
beethoven worst poster of the millennium
give it up

Dirkus
08-19-2014, 08:35 AM
Perhaps population is low because not that many people want to PvP. This is why I've only played blue servers since 1999.

no chewie dont
08-19-2014, 08:45 AM
Perhaps

Derubael
08-19-2014, 09:15 AM
Ok, i agree that your mighty opinions are just as valid as my own, or anyone else here for that matter. But for now I'm going to go with the Giant Red Motto:
HIGHER exp rate/ HIGHER drop rate/ LOWERS spawn times= Thee Ultra Server

So you want to play on the EZ Server, but with PvP enabled?

Experience is already unbelievably high as it is. Full group of players is 290% XP. Even grouping with just one person is 130%. If you need more than that you just need to play on a different server, because you aren't looking for what Red 99 aims to provide.

I think similar logic applies to increased drop rates, but in a different way. It's easy to find open camps on Red 99. You will rarely have to wait in line for fight for a spawn, unless its one of the more popular ones. As long as you put the effort in, you're almost guaranteed a shot at the loot drop you're looking for at any time of day - unlike blue where you will likely have to wait in lines that are sometimes 3 or more players deep.

Sorry, but the things you're suggesting aren't going to increase the servers population. The only way to do that is to improve the community and give people reasons to continue coming back. The people who have been here for 2, 3 years are only here still farming pixels and pvp'ing because of the people they play with. If that wasn't there, they wouldn't be here any longer. New players to the server need to make those same connections if we want them to stick around.

If you've been here for a long time, ask yourself why you're still here. I can almost guarantee it's because you like to log on and play EQ with your pals. So if we want more people, they need to make those same connections as well. Someone start a community outreach program for new players :eek:

I still have yet to see any guild leader sanction their members for stupid shit on the forums or server chat. The most effective method of change is through your peers, but like I've said before I think it's just easier to blame the server rather than admit some responsibility for one's own actions.

no chewie dont
08-19-2014, 09:33 AM
I disagree

Kergan
08-19-2014, 09:43 AM
Nope, xp is fast enough. All that you're going to do if you increase it on the weekends is have people play just in the weekends, and most will quit at about 40. Faster xp isn't the answer and it's short sighted.

Again, that isn't the point. XP is fine, I agree. But posting crap like "XP bonus weekend!" gets people to try it out even if it was super fast to begin with. People few it as a short term opportunity. It's the same reason every infomercial ever created has the "call in the next 30 minutes and get 50% off!" shit in it...even though you'd get the same price no matter when you call. It creates a false sense of urgency and desire in people to act.

You could literally give a 5% bonus to make it 295% and call it a bonus weekend and you'd have a surge in population for the weekend, it's human nature.

Somekid123
08-19-2014, 09:49 AM
Experience is fast enough. Everyone I group with on alts can't afford there spells and are using dragoon dirks or leather whips as a melee 20+.

rollin5k
08-19-2014, 09:55 AM
This is getting pathetic , stop bitching about exp you pussies it's everquest.

Definitely already too high

Visual
08-19-2014, 10:32 AM
but like I've said before I think it's just easier to blame the server rather than admit some responsibility for one's own actions.

That is a bit dismissive, don't you think? Lumping this kook in with the hundreds of people advocating a wipe.

Vile
08-19-2014, 10:39 AM
wipe

heartbrand
08-19-2014, 10:40 AM
I still have yet to see any guild leader sanction their members for stupid shit on the forums or server chat. The most effective method of change is through your peers, but like I've said before I think it's just easier to blame the server rather than admit some responsibility for one's own actions.

is that the leader's fault, many of whom have been banned previously for RMT / Boxing / Exploiting, or is it the staff's fault who shrug their shoulders?

Mac Drettj
08-19-2014, 10:54 AM
Isn't Smedy Agatha?

no chewie dont
08-19-2014, 11:21 AM
I still have yet to see any guild leader sanction their members for stupid shit on the forums or server chat. The most effective method of change is through your peers, but like I've said before I think it's just easier to blame the server rather than admit some responsibility for one's own actions.
What, flowers don't count? Fuck outta here

Nirgon
08-19-2014, 11:32 AM
More xp will get a few people to lvl 20-30 and a ton of existing people more lvl 60 alts.

derpcake
08-19-2014, 11:40 AM
XP at 54+ is terrible since there are no groups during euro hours, and hardly any groups during other hours.

Most people don't make it past 56, unless they have a clique or join nihilum.

I just rerolled and enjoy the low lvl game for what it is; sparsely populated with a rare pvp moment, but still tons beter then the 55+ game by far.

bigshowtime
08-19-2014, 11:41 AM
Yaw I been meaning to level up a bard so u should go ahead n put in double exp weekend

Thanks pals

Also syft stop name dropping guilds from live and claiming u talk to people who won't play here it is just pathetic

derpcake
08-19-2014, 11:41 AM
More xp will get a few people to lvl 20-30 and a ton of existing people more lvl 60 alts.

It would help me finish my 1st level 60, since I'm just not up for the 50 hours of solo / level it takes at 58+.

derpcake
08-19-2014, 11:43 AM
So you want to play on the EZ Server, but with PvP enabled?

Experience is already unbelievably high as it is. Full group of players is 290% XP. Even grouping with just one person is 130%. If you need more than that you just need to play on a different server, because you aren't looking for what Red 99 aims to provide.

I think similar logic applies to increased drop rates, but in a different way. It's easy to find open camps on Red 99. You will rarely have to wait in line for fight for a spawn, unless its one of the more popular ones. As long as you put the effort in, you're almost guaranteed a shot at the loot drop you're looking for at any time of day - unlike blue where you will likely have to wait in lines that are sometimes 3 or more players deep.

Sorry, but the things you're suggesting aren't going to increase the servers population. The only way to do that is to improve the community and give people reasons to continue coming back. The people who have been here for 2, 3 years are only here still farming pixels and pvp'ing because of the people they play with. If that wasn't there, they wouldn't be here any longer. New players to the server need to make those same connections if we want them to stick around.

If you've been here for a long time, ask yourself why you're still here. I can almost guarantee it's because you like to log on and play EQ with your pals. So if we want more people, they need to make those same connections as well. Someone start a community outreach program for new players :eek:

Too bad there are hardly any groups 55+, especially at euro hours.

For euro time players the xp bonus does nothing, since there are no groups to be found, or players to make a group with.

Claiming the xp bonus helps at these levels / hours seems to indicate you aren't aware of the situation at all.

Its 17.54 right now, GMT+1, and there 6 players total on from 54-59. Chances of forming a full group? Maybe a duo after an hour of oocing .. usually not.

I still have yet to see any guild leader sanction their members for stupid shit on the forums or server chat. The most effective method of change is through your peers, but like I've said before I think it's just easier to blame the server rather than admit some responsibility for one's own actions.

I've taken the time to speak to different guildleaders.

Funny how both sides don't like the trolling and flaming, ingame or on forums, but they are so desperate for members they put up with it.

I don't think you are well-informed.

Jib
08-19-2014, 11:44 AM
split nihilum into 4 guilds, add variance. + 500 pop

close this thread solution found

bigshowtime
08-19-2014, 11:46 AM
split nihilum into 4 guilds, add variance. + 500 pop

close this thread solution found

U never give up do u?

Maybe one day all ur tears will pay off

Maybe ur guild would stop bleeding members if u helped them instead of azreal

bigshowtime
08-19-2014, 11:47 AM
When you become a factor someone may give a shit about your opinion, but joining the zerg and doing nothing big does not give you a seat at the big boys table. You even posting in PvP section is as laughable as Kergan.

But gratz on Warm Body status pls tell us more about Non factors?

Lot of rage in that post for getting called out lols.. Does it make u feel cool and important when u claim to have all these pals from back in the day in the top guilds?

derpcake
08-19-2014, 11:57 AM
No I'm super hurt by a warm-body on a emu claiming I'm a non factor on live LOL! Oh look another Nihi blue with zero solo kills talking big about how they matter, and no one else does.

https://salsa.wiredforchange.com/o/5996/images/not-fooled.gif

He called me a virgin. After considering the insult came from someone that batphones 15 year old shit, I was in tears.

Showtime A+ entertainment.

Nirgon
08-19-2014, 12:00 PM
Derpcake when you gonna realize my "go play blue" comment was an attempt to goad the staff during the red revival to make some classic fixes pal

Gaffin 7.0
08-19-2014, 12:08 PM
item loot please

derpcake
08-19-2014, 12:10 PM
One way transfers from blue please. Might get a guild from there, who knows. Must be some invested people that are tired of the overpopulation.

Kergan
08-19-2014, 12:11 PM
When you become a factor someone may give a shit about your opinion, but joining the zerg and doing nothing big does not give you a seat at the big boys table. You even posting in PvP section is as laughable as Kergan.

But gratz on Warm Body status pls tell us more about Non factors?

Player can be found on patrol at raptors or seafuries 24/7.

Confirmed non factor.

Nirgon
08-19-2014, 12:11 PM
Resists/mechanics first because they also help blue..

then we can try to talk some sense into the pals here.

no chewie dont
08-19-2014, 12:12 PM
I know 50 to 100 guildies that would reinstall for item loot

derpcake
08-19-2014, 12:12 PM
Player can be found on patrol at raptors or seafuries 24/7.

Confirmed non factor.

Can confirm he is better at it then showtime though.

Samsung
08-19-2014, 12:14 PM
Rewrite the rules of red, unban everyone and put offenders under probation to where they are required to spend 5 hours a week helping new players.

Offer gm events with real rewards once a month.

Add one hot zone in areas where people don't go once a month.

Reward players for showing proof of rule breaking.

Add two full time RED guides at least one of them to watch sim repops.

Offer rewards to players willing to market red99 I.e. Smedy making a video or someone else.

no chewie dont
08-19-2014, 12:16 PM
Rewrite the rules of red, unban everyone and put offenders under probation to where they are required to spend 5 hours a week helping new players.

Offer gm events with real rewards once a month.

Add one hot zone in areas where people don't go once a month.

Reward players for showing proof of rule breaking.

Add two full time RED guides at least one of them to watch sim repops.

Offer rewards to players willing to market red99 I.e. Smedy making a video or someone else.

Welcome to ignore
if youre not going to help dont even contribute

Samsung
08-19-2014, 12:18 PM
Welcome to ignore
if youre not going to help dont even contribute

hehe I win at fq.

derpcake
08-19-2014, 12:18 PM
The huge gear advantage time has given some people doesn't help either.

New server attracts people, 3 years of kunark server not so much :(

Mac Drettj
08-19-2014, 12:40 PM
I know 50 to 100 guildies that would reinstall for item loot

I would

Kergan
08-19-2014, 01:57 PM
Are you critiquing other peoples pvp skills Mr. 905?

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h266/syft13/Aborted_zpsf462c4ba.jpg (http://s66.photobucket.com/user/syft13/media/Aborted_zpsf462c4ba.jpg.html)

Pls drop more knowledge bombs on us, help those first time player's to achieve that leet score on a box of less than 200.

Did my PVP in 1999 when it mattered.

Do not need plat from seafuries therefor will never encounter you.

no chewie dont
08-19-2014, 02:05 PM
I did my pve in 1999 when it mattered

R Flair
08-19-2014, 02:06 PM
Did my PVP in 1999 when it mattered.

Do not need plat from seafuries therefor will never encounter you.

not to worry, a guy that only pvps in a zone where he can insta tp 20,000 leagues under the sea is a coward as well as a nonfactor

Kergan
08-19-2014, 02:13 PM
If that's what he enjoys, the server is here and the mechanics for it exist. Just not my cup of tea to pk level 55s in rags out in an ocean where you're more or less invulnerable if you can hit the nuke and yonder buttons.

Difference between him and I is I don't come in here calling everyone who has never participated in a Phara Dar kill some worthless non factor who doesn't get to have an opinion.

To each their own.

Beethoven
08-19-2014, 02:55 PM
Funny. Everyone is criticizing my crappy idea, but the ones they come up with are even worse than mine.
Yea some people play here and stay here because of the community and friends they've made, but there are a lot of people for whom that's not the case. I have friends in real life i can hang out with, I don't need any here to make me want to play. Sure my rl friends playing here would be great, and a lot of the pople I've talked to here are cool, but seems they have been taking a break, yet I'm still here.

Because i want PvP, not just pals and pixels. But unfortunately adding the simplest of things like exp weekends will bring more of that. At least I'm making an effort, because It's a crappy server population. It's like a small town here, every1 is in their own little cliques and every1 thinks they know every1's business.

no chewie dont
08-19-2014, 02:57 PM
My idea of you shutting the fuck up forever is great

Mac Drettj
08-19-2014, 03:01 PM
i would literally reinstall right now if item loot was more than fantasy

Beethoven
08-19-2014, 03:07 PM
My idea of you shutting the fuck up forever is great

Shit guys, the prom king is pissed.

Don't be mad, just because every single one of your comments are worthless

no chewie dont
08-19-2014, 03:10 PM
At least im not crying about exp being too slow on an ez server

Eslade
08-19-2014, 03:11 PM
My idea of you shutting the fuck up forever is great

LOL

cutie
08-19-2014, 06:28 PM
I still have yet to see any guild leader sanction their members for stupid shit on the forums or server chat. The most effective method of change is through your peers, but like I've said before I think it's just easier to blame the server rather than admit some responsibility for one's own actions.
you know i love you, but when i was an officer in FoH i had convos w quite a few ppl about being in ooc too much saying dumb stuff (especially after i did it myself). in game ive booted ppl for ninja looting and if i thought someone was boxing id have chewie confirm before i booted them. also if foh finds out ur using any hacks thats an automatic boot. ppl have also been booted for dumb stuff on the forums i.e. lewis, or one of his many alter egos.
i agree more ppl shud keep their guilds in line, and although im not in foh im still considered an officer.
most foh dont do too much on forums, but i think if anyone shud be reprimanded for forum behavior it should be chewdog himself even if he is just trolling hardcore. so i think i will have a chat w him irl right now.

i know a lot of gms feel unappreciated, but i appreciate everything all of you have done for the server, you, aussie, sirken have always helped me when i needed it and thank you all, and i guess a retro active thank you to zade for helping me out when he was a gm.
ppl forget you are all volunteers giving up ur own time so we can all have fun enjoying some classic eq.

Mac Drettj
08-19-2014, 06:31 PM
you know i love you, but when i was an officer in FoH i had convos w quite a few ppl about being in ooc too much saying dumb stuff (especially after i did it myself). in game ive booted ppl for ninja looting and if i thought someone was boxing id have chewie confirm before i booted them. also if foh finds out ur using any hacks thats an automatic boot. ppl have also been booted for dumb stuff on the forums i.e. lewis, or one of his many alter egos.
i agree more ppl shud keep their guilds in line, and although im not in foh im still considered an officer.
most foh dont do too much on forums, but i think if anyone shud be reprimanded for forum behavior it should be chewdog himself even if he is just trolling hardcore. so i think i will have a chat w him irl right now.

i know a lot of gms feel unappreciated, but i appreciate everything all of you have done for the server, you, aussie, sirken have always helped me when i needed it and thank you all, and i guess a retro active thank you to zade for helping me out when he was a gm.
ppl forget you are all volunteers giving up ur own time so we can all have fun enjoying some classic eq.

kind words from a saint

krazyGlue
08-19-2014, 06:48 PM
Naw, the only people left to come to the server are bluebies.


Brobb's idea has my vote. Maybe a cap on how many 57-60 toons you can have per guild.

then whats stoping nihi to split into 2 guilds but work as 1.

Eslade
08-19-2014, 06:59 PM
then whats stoping nihi to split into 2 guilds but work as 1.

GM enforcement? Maybe once your guild hits a certain size, you can no longer ally with other guilds and are allowed only a few guests per raid? The amount of policing in blue suggests it would be possible.

freez
08-19-2014, 07:04 PM
pity reply



why do you idiots play this

Clark
08-19-2014, 07:09 PM
Looney bin for sure.

Beethoven
08-19-2014, 07:17 PM
At least im not crying about exp being too slow on an ez server

All I did was point out that a weekend exp bonus isn't a bad idea. Seems like a shit load of people actually agree.
Only person i see crying is you. In nearly every single post you make. Never a productive word from the prom king. You got problems bro, seek help

Derubael
08-19-2014, 08:06 PM
you know i love you, but when i was an officer in FoH i had convos w quite a few ppl about being in ooc too much saying dumb stuff (especially after i did it myself). in game ive booted ppl for ninja looting and if i thought someone was boxing id have chewie confirm before i booted them. also if foh finds out ur using any hacks thats an automatic boot. ppl have also been booted for dumb stuff on the forums i.e. lewis, or one of his many alter egos.
i agree more ppl shud keep their guilds in line, and although im not in foh im still considered an officer.
most foh dont do too much on forums, but i think if anyone shud be reprimanded for forum behavior it should be chewdog himself even if he is just trolling hardcore. so i think i will have a chat w him irl right now.

i know a lot of gms feel unappreciated, but i appreciate everything all of you have done for the server, you, aussie, sirken have always helped me when i needed it and thank you all, and i guess a retro active thank you to zade for helping me out when he was a gm.
ppl forget you are all volunteers giving up ur own time so we can all have fun enjoying some classic eq.

Very well, exclude FoH from this, although chewie doesn't always set a shining example on the forums for the rest of the guild to follow.

Beethoven
08-19-2014, 09:24 PM
Not exactly sure where you think I went overboard on this one, but whatevs
I guess demanding a wipe is more user friendly

Gaffin 7.0
08-19-2014, 09:42 PM
pity reply

Beethoven
08-19-2014, 10:06 PM
What I've learned is that you gotta be a complete juvenile ass-hat to not get hated on around here lol

filthyphil
08-19-2014, 10:12 PM
I'm a real *****, and I live a real ***** life during the week. Them WEEKENDS THO BRO? Hook a LIZID up YA DIG!?

no chewie dont
08-19-2014, 10:27 PM
http://media.giphy.com/media/JuqQMqlKKeEyQ/giphy.gif

Beethoven
08-20-2014, 02:51 AM
I've cleaned up my act. I'm a straight edge now can't you tell?
No more Chewie-esque flame-tardant
o shit.... i might have just relapsed

georgie
08-20-2014, 02:54 AM
will she ever stop posting

Beethoven
08-20-2014, 06:31 AM
You mean the Prom Queen Chewie?

I'll just say that this belongs in the flame bucket now. Thanks to non-player forum-warriors like the above 2 posters (besides me of course)
I shall call her..... a meme warrior. Always trying hard to get a point across, but only ever failing into oblivion with tired played out old-timer inside p99 FORUM jokes --- that only FQers will ever understand.

Seriously get cereal or you won't be taken cereal. Killing a few ppl in 1 zone every month doesn't make you good......
Facts: deal with it

no chewie dont
08-20-2014, 09:36 AM
needs 1 or 2 more edits imo
keep at it you'll get me good eventually

Mac Drettj
08-20-2014, 10:47 AM
Very well, exclude FoH from this, although chewie doesn't always set a shining example on the forums for the rest of the guild to follow.

foh models of red community

Beethoven
08-20-2014, 07:08 PM
Hey, editing to add new thoughts is better than spam posting just to get your forum lvls up


*edit* see what i mean?

Eslade
08-20-2014, 07:14 PM
Hey, editing to add new thoughts is better than spam posting just to get your forum lvls up


*edit* see what i mean?

Karsten 2.0.

Clark
08-20-2014, 07:24 PM
needs 1 or 2 more edits imo
keep at it you'll get me good eventually

LOL

Beethoven
08-20-2014, 07:28 PM
Buncha circle jerkers ova hea

Jenni D
08-21-2014, 10:01 AM
xp rate is too high as it is. no.

Samsung
08-21-2014, 10:30 AM
Rewrite the rules of red, unban everyone and put offenders under probation to where they are required to spend 5 hours a week helping new players.

Offer gm events with real rewards once a month.

Add one hot zone in areas where people don't go once a month.

Reward players for showing proof of rule breaking.

Add two full time RED guides at least one of them to watch sim repops.

Offer rewards to players willing to market red99 I.e. Smedy making a video or someone else.

Not_Kazowi
08-21-2014, 10:39 AM
This is a free volunteer server man, no ones going to devote enough time to have probation officers and monitors

Eslade
08-21-2014, 10:45 AM
This is a free volunteer server man, no ones going to devote enough time to have probation officers and monitors

See blue server