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paulgiamatti
08-08-2014, 04:18 PM
When you loot a corpse while hidden there is no message being sent back to the player that hide has been broken.

So basically, you will be visible to mobs after you've looted something, but you will still be invisible on your screen, and there isn't a hide break message or anything.

Rhambuk
08-09-2014, 01:45 AM
sounds like classic to me

paulgiamatti
08-09-2014, 02:43 AM
Hide/sneak breaking from looting a corpse is classic and working as intended.

Hide/sneak breaking from looting a corpse with no break message while the button stays pressed and your character stays invis does not seem classic. This seems bugged.

From The Safehouse (http://www.thesafehouse.org/forums/showthread.php?t=2855):
List of reasons hide will break
Bard Song
Area of Effect (AOE) Spells
Someone casts a spell on you
Looting a corpse
Dealing with a merchant/banker
Successful Instill Doubt
Pickpocket (success OR fail)
Zoning or logging out Zato Thornblade the Dwarven Rogue
Tarew MarrEdited by Zato at: 3/31/00 2:58:05 pm

Rhambuk
08-09-2014, 08:11 AM
It sounds wrong and even if it doesn't make sense if it was like this in classic ( and this is how i remember it being at least for a while ) it will stay in until its supposed to be fixxed on the timeline

Scrubosaur
08-09-2014, 10:40 AM
When you loot a corpse while hidden there is no message being sent back to the player that hide has been broken.

So basically, you will be visible to mobs after you've looted something, but you will still be invisible on your screen, and there isn't a hide break message or anything.

Correct, this is broken on P99. Like other things that break hide you should become visible when hide is broken. I believe at some point you could loot while hidden (I could be wrong) and then they fixed it, so maybe the script to break your invisibility needs to be touched up. It idiotic to think there would be any reason for you to appear hidden when you are not. For now just remember that if you loot you need to re-hide!

Vega
08-09-2014, 10:45 AM
Yeah, it sounds like it's potentially putting you into 'failed hide' mode. Would be interesting to try the /target <selfname> thing to see if you can.

paulgiamatti
08-21-2014, 11:44 PM
Bump. Still broken, still not classic!

Haynar
09-02-2014, 09:28 AM
I have it coded to show you no longer hidden if you loot a corpse and give you a hide break message. The hide button stays down though. I might be able to modify a client function to fix that, but would need more testing on the button to make sure its ok. So that may not happen.

But its coded now to make u visible and give u a break msg. Pending update.

H

Scrubosaur
09-02-2014, 11:34 AM
I have it coded to show you no longer hidden if you loot a corpse and give you a hide break message. The hide button stays down though. I might be able to modify a client function to fix that, but would need more testing on the button to make sure its ok. So that may not happen.

But its coded now to make u visible and give u a break msg. Pending update.

H

It would be cool if you could fix the button. It was possible to loot and then hide real fast so that you wouldn't be seen. This may be the same issue with Pickpocket where you become unhidden but if you hit the hide button quickly the mob would not aggro on you.

Haynar
09-02-2014, 11:48 AM
I found a new opcode, but it resets sneak too. I need to see all what uses that function. I might be able to disable the sneak part. And use it to reset hide. I found no other way so far. I might look at older clients too, to see what they did.

H

Cecily
09-02-2014, 01:42 PM
Please just leave it how it is. It's classic. Knowing that you're not invis when it says you're invis is the little things that separate the good rogues from the scrubs.

Kender
09-02-2014, 04:10 PM
Please just leave it how it is. It's classic. Knowing that you're not invis when it says you're invis is the little things that separate the good rogues from the scrubs.

^^

I remember hide breaking when looting not showing on client side too. we had a laugh at a few rogues that forgot and roamed through kael thinking they were safe when WALLOP! /gu umm i need another rez please

Cecily
09-02-2014, 05:15 PM
Seriously, if you fix this you break it.

Treats
09-04-2014, 01:19 AM
This was fixed in this patch on live:

A message is now displayed and skills are properly reset when a rogue breaks sneak and/or hide because he is looting a corpse.

http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20020508.html

Cecily
09-05-2014, 07:32 PM
"MAY 8, 2002"

Haynar
09-05-2014, 07:45 PM
I can forget the message then. But the rogue should appear visible to themselves. And not stay so they look at themself as invis. The packet goes out to everyone else, and they see them appear.

H