View Full Version : what is wrong with this server
SamIamLegend
08-06-2014, 07:30 AM
so it went from the plague harassing newbs in City of Mist - to United Blood Nation training and harassing newbs just like the plague. How will this server ever grow or even maintain a steady player base if all people do is harass and grief. PVP is awesome but deleveling a character from 60 to run around in insane gear and rape newbs in banded is just mindboggling... Server is lonely as is - can you kiddos please chill out
Tassador
08-06-2014, 07:44 AM
Lol it's getting blue as fuck up in here.
spigot
08-06-2014, 08:58 AM
Go to another zone. You don't need to hunt in Unrest and CoM.
Jenni D
08-06-2014, 09:12 AM
server is dead. move on. no need to invest time there.
you'll thank me later.
Not_Kazowi
08-06-2014, 09:25 AM
There's a lot of sad individuals with too much time here. The only pvp they enjoy is low level twink where they have 1% chance to die.
XP in remote zones and just leave when they show up, that takes all the fun away for them
Honeyblunts
08-06-2014, 09:27 AM
the king is dead
http://cdn2.nerdapproved.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/elvis-toast.jpg?874fb4
Kergan
08-06-2014, 09:31 AM
No way to prevent this stuff, but honestly it only really happens in Crushbone, Unrest, MM and CoM. If you don't hunt in those zones you are very unlikely to see one of the supertwink pkers.
That being said it will probably be tougher to find groups too, but even a decent duo can make massive exp when left alone in RE, Paw, Befallen, KK, etc.
Super Hater
08-06-2014, 09:43 AM
so it went from the plague harassing newbs in City of Mist - to United Blood Nation training and harassing newbs just like the plague. How will this server ever grow or even maintain a steady player base if all people do is harass and grief. PVP is awesome but deleveling a character from 60 to run around in insane gear and rape newbs in banded is just mindboggling... Server is lonely as is - can you kiddos please chill out
Crying about it might work.
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lm3lquGZWG1qcql71.gif
Kergan
08-06-2014, 09:47 AM
I'd like to add that I have my own supertwink I've been playing on and off, and while I don't attack people I've been attacked myself tons of times by legit newbs. Once I get attacked I'll attack them back, sometimes they are grouped with other people who jump in and by the end of the day/week I'm pking the whole zone anyway which was never my intent.
Clark
08-06-2014, 09:52 AM
the king is dead
http://cdn2.nerdapproved.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/elvis-toast.jpg?874fb4
Lol
Nirgon
08-06-2014, 09:59 AM
Keep leveling in the only 2 zones you know how to from blue.
Laugher
08-06-2014, 11:12 AM
Server pop accordingto homepage says red at 78 and blues at 616...
For not having had a patch or adjustment in the past 2 weeks AND reds still pulling in over 10% of blue pop?
Servers not just mantaining, its on the up and up by 1-2%; nothing wrong about that
VictomEyez
08-06-2014, 11:54 AM
Ive been seeing the blue peak in the high 900s and red peaking around 150
heartbrand
08-06-2014, 11:57 AM
Server pop accordingto homepage says red at 78 and blues at 616...
For not having had a patch or adjustment in the past 2 weeks AND reds still pulling in over 10% of blue pop?
Servers not just mantaining, its on the up and up by 1-2%; nothing wrong about that
Do you work for the Obama administration?
Super Hater
08-06-2014, 12:28 PM
Do you work for the Obama administration?
Do you work for your parents?
HippoNipple
08-06-2014, 01:20 PM
Do you work for your parents?
Have you ever met your dad?
Kergan
08-06-2014, 02:11 PM
All questions to save for the R99 edition of Maury.
freez
08-06-2014, 02:14 PM
Do you work for your parents?
do you work, period?
Not_Kazowi
08-06-2014, 02:34 PM
Do you have any grey poupon
freez
08-06-2014, 02:40 PM
Do you have any grey poupon
lol first funny rexx post ive seen
Super Hater
08-06-2014, 03:18 PM
do you work, period?
Wouldn't call it work. Do I earn money daily? Yes. Do I earn more and own more than you? Absolutely no question. I could support you better than your parents do son, but I ran out on your Mom.
Fuck that bitch.
harnold
08-06-2014, 03:36 PM
The Super hater is probably the best drug dealer on these forums don't be jealous
Swish
08-06-2014, 03:39 PM
Super Hater or Super Heisenberg?
harnold
08-06-2014, 03:40 PM
Super hater of your willing to support a 500 pound elderly diabetic please send me a message. I can help test out your crack cocaine before we peddle it out on the board walk
freez
08-06-2014, 03:41 PM
Wouldn't call it work. Do I earn money daily? Yes. Do I earn more and own more than you? Absolutely no question. I could support you better than your parents do son, but I ran out on your Mom.
Fuck that bitch.
http://troll.me/images/panic-face-king/i-am-getting-angry.jpg
lol naw
harnold
08-06-2014, 03:43 PM
Don't be angry mr. Freez
freez
08-06-2014, 03:43 PM
Don't be angry mr. Freez
http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/4d/4de48dbde070cafa6e8616066dd24cd37d9ea820ce59369f6e 2ab7cd3f9d5feb.jpg
Farzo
08-06-2014, 04:26 PM
Hey... kulling the new players off the server with a deleveled raid gear toon really helps my self esteem problems.
Potus
08-06-2014, 04:34 PM
City of Mist was a ghost town on live because IT IS A SHITTY ZONE STOP HUNTING THERE.
Tewaz
08-06-2014, 04:46 PM
CoM is a favorite. So easy to start exping without porting everyone, invising, running down, getting pvp'd, corpse running.
Derubael
08-06-2014, 06:10 PM
It's a pvp server - there will always be people who play just to twink up and hunt n00bs.
One of the coolest dynamics in a pvp environment like this is actually created by these twinks. There is nothing more awesome than fighting some uber twink in unrest, hanging on for dear life with your group members, when out of no where someone even more twinked out shows up and starts defending your group.
Community is so important here. The next time you see some nublets being harassed in ZoneX, send them a tell and let'em know that backup is on the way. They'll be thrilled, and if they are true PvP'ers, it'll keep them coming back for more.
tl;dr, save the noobs when they're getting pwned.
p.s. we have loot and scoot to avoid actual 'grief' these days. make sure to let new players they can safely GTFO if they get ganked!
krazyGlue
08-06-2014, 06:11 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9corDmb6JQ&list=UU8Y_uVu2spba1TS_X71wqHg
things like this happen and GMs do nothing about it.
HippoNipple
08-06-2014, 06:33 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9corDmb6JQ&list=UU8Y_uVu2spba1TS_X71wqHg
things like this happen and GMs do nothing about it.
That shit was uploaded to youtube today. I know there is neglect on this server but at least give them 1-2 weeks to fail on this before complaining about it.
krazyGlue
08-06-2014, 06:35 PM
That shit was uploaded to youtube today. I know there is neglect on this server but at least give them 1-2 weeks to fail on this before complaining about it.
1-2 weeks? lol
HippoNipple
08-06-2014, 06:45 PM
1-2 weeks? lol
I don't know why anyone would expect service any quicker on any game.
Derubael
08-06-2014, 06:45 PM
1-2 weeks? lol
Yes, 1-2 weeks.
We have lives. Girlfriends/wives. Jobs. Hobbies. We are not obligated to spend 40 hours a week doing CSR, though we often do despite our other obligations.
We address things in the order that they come into the petition forum as often as possible. There are currently 16 pages (25 threads a page) in the petition forum. 16*25 = 400 petitions. Out of those 400 petitions, 5 pages are "derubael only", 2 are "sirken only", 2 are "eunomia", and 4 are "rogean/derubael". We have a lot of CSR work to do, blue and red, and we do the best we can to get through as much as we can when we have time, but because of the sheer volume of petitions, people have to be patient.
I'd like to think it's as simple as just adding new CSR staff, but it's not. Adding new guide's is a long process with lots of checks along the way to be sure we don't end up with another PR disaster like we have in the past. The last thing we want is another person taking bribes, giving spawn timers, etc., so we have to be extremely careful about who we bring on. The "GM" position specifically is something that only gets handed out after significant and thorough checks go through on someone. That person also has to have the drive, desire, and integrity that we need in a position like that. This is why we only have 2 GM's at any given time.
All that being said, I did see Jib's thread in the petition/exploit forum, and responded to it already. I haven't watched the video and probably won't do so for several days. There is just too much going on, and your raid dispute affects a very small percentage of people needing help (maybe 2% at most) in relation to the overall population of red and blue - that's not to say it's not important or that it won't get addressed - it's simply to give you an idea of the "big picture", something that we are always having to take into consideration, but that players will rarely take into account when making petitions.
You are one small piece in a much larger puzzle, have patience.
Mac Drettj
08-06-2014, 06:45 PM
no gm's tbh
http://kjambor.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/main1.jpg
Super Hater
08-06-2014, 07:02 PM
It's a pvp server - there will always be people who play just to twink up and hunt n00bs.
One of the coolest dynamics in a pvp environment like this is actually created by these twinks. There is nothing more awesome than fighting some uber twink in unrest, hanging on for dear life with your group members, when out of no where someone even more twinked out shows up and starts defending your group.
Community is so important here. The next time you see some nublets being harassed in ZoneX, send them a tell and let'em know that backup is on the way. They'll be thrilled, and if they are true PvP'ers, it'll keep them coming back for more.
tl;dr, save the noobs when they're getting pwned.
p.s. we have loot and scoot to avoid actual 'grief' these days. make sure to let new players they can safely GTFO if they get ganked!
Well put! Pras the staff. Thank you for all your hard work!
Grimjaw
08-06-2014, 07:33 PM
Go to another zone. You don't need to hunt in Unrest and CoM.
Dubee Sugawolf
08-06-2014, 07:49 PM
I recommend Guk
heartbrand
08-06-2014, 07:58 PM
Disagree. There have been tons of people here who have offered to volunteer and assist with the project with no response. How many qualified devs have applied only to not get a response, despite velious taking years and years? Is it because they were unqualified? They never even got a response or interview. It would probably be easier to get a six figure paying job with google than a response from rogean to a dev application. The same goes with staff. This stuff isn't rocket science and it's insulting when people paint it as such. With the proper tools I could probably destroy the petition forum within a week. I know because I did so on live. Now I'm not foolish enough to think based on my rep I would get this chance, but I know from prior staff comments that there are hundreds of apps out there. If there aren't enough staff then start interviewing from the hundreds of apps. Do what Sony did and have an apprentice guide program. Get them working on the boring basic petitions, are classifying them etc., the way they did during the petition era on live. Get guides who can monitor ooc, the forums, /hide me and watch trains, etc. There's tons of people wanting to help if only you guys would let them.
Colgate
08-06-2014, 08:02 PM
yeah def been multitudes of people with backgrounds in hosting/coding for servers who don't even play here that wanted to help fix red's problems, 0 response to any of them except alecta, who quit within 2 months because he was getting cockblocked by rogean from the very start
http://i.imgur.com/zAHjn.gif
qwerty
08-06-2014, 08:15 PM
It's a pvp server - there will always be people who play just to twink up and hunt n00bs.
One of the coolest dynamics in a pvp environment like this is actually created by these twinks. There is nothing more awesome than fighting some uber twink in unrest, hanging on for dear life with your group members, when out of no where someone even more twinked out shows up and starts defending your group.
Community is so important here. The next time you see some nublets being harassed in ZoneX, send them a tell and let'em know that backup is on the way. They'll be thrilled, and if they are true PvP'ers, it'll keep them coming back for more.
tl;dr, save the noobs when they're getting pwned.
p.s. we have loot and scoot to avoid actual 'grief' these days. make sure to let new players they can safely GTFO if they get ganked!
there are like 70 players on this server during the day. most are just farming plat and the rest are twinks floating around killing new players. server community is bad and people aren't helping make it better. not saying its GMS faults. its simply the people who play here are selfish
Nirgon
08-06-2014, 08:35 PM
Yes, 1-2 weeks.
We have lives. Girlfriends/wives. Jobs. Hobbies. We are not obligated to spend 40 hours a week doing CSR, though we often do despite our other obligations.
We address things in the order that they come into the petition forum as often as possible. There are currently 16 pages (25 threads a page) in the petition forum. 16*25 = 400 petitions. Out of those 400 petitions, 5 pages are "derubael only", 2 are "sirken only", 2 are "eunomia", and 4 are "rogean/derubael". We have a lot of CSR work to do, blue and red, and we do the best we can to get through as much as we can when we have time, but because of the sheer volume of petitions, people have to be patient.
I'd like to think it's as simple as just adding new CSR staff, but it's not. Adding new guide's is a long process with lots of checks along the way to be sure we don't end up with another PR disaster like we have in the past. The last thing we want is another person taking bribes, giving spawn timers, etc., so we have to be extremely careful about who we bring on. The "GM" position specifically is something that only gets handed out after significant and thorough checks go through on someone. That person also has to have the drive, desire, and integrity that we need in a position like that. This is why we only have 2 GM's at any given time.
All that being said, I did see Jib's thread in the petition/exploit forum, and responded to it already. I haven't watched the video and probably won't do so for several days. There is just too much going on, and your raid dispute affects a very small percentage of people needing help (maybe 2% at most) in relation to the overall population of red and blue - that's not to say it's not important or that it won't get addressed - it's simply to give you an idea of the "big picture", something that we are always having to take into consideration, but that players will rarely take into account when making petitions.
You are one small piece in a much larger puzzle, have patience.
I can handle what I saw in that video faster than it took to make the above post.
Just sayin'. I don't bull shit you.
Kergan
08-06-2014, 09:40 PM
Agreed, pretty clear they trained themselves move to resolved.
Derubael
08-06-2014, 09:43 PM
Disagree. There have been tons of people here who have offered to volunteer and assist with the project with no response. How many qualified devs have applied only to not get a response, despite velious taking years and years? Is it because they were unqualified? They never even got a response or interview. It would probably be easier to get a six figure paying job with google than a response from rogean to a dev application. The same goes with staff. This stuff isn't rocket science and it's insulting when people paint it as such. With the proper tools I could probably destroy the petition forum within a week. I know because I did so on live. Now I'm not foolish enough to think based on my rep I would get this chance, but I know from prior staff comments that there are hundreds of apps out there. If there aren't enough staff then start interviewing from the hundreds of apps. Do what Sony did and have an apprentice guide program. Get them working on the boring basic petitions, are classifying them etc., the way they did during the petition era on live. Get guides who can monitor ooc, the forums, /hide me and watch trains, etc. There's tons of people wanting to help if only you guys would let them.
I could probably clear the petition forum in a week too, if I didn't do anything else.
Each poofed item reimbursement takes anywhere from 15 minutes to an hour depending on how many items are involved. There's no way to speed this up because of the steps involved in verifying that the item poofed.
In regards to developers, Rogean and Nilbog are extremely careful about who they bring on for actual code work - there are a lot of people who would be thrilled to get their hands on the P99 source code. Content work is just as desired, and needs to be treated in a similar fashion as the source. There are other development positions that don't have access to that kind of information that have been filled with qualified personnel, but regardless of position there is always that risk of shenanigans.
As for the CSR side of things, I can comment more thoroughly since it's more my department than the dev work, which is primarily Rogean/Nilbog. Recently we've been working on an 'apprentice guide' program which should be completed soon. We are already starting to interview people for this position. It's an extremely limited Guide position that has it's access basically cut in half, and no front-end/forum access. Essentially they are eyes and ears. We're also looking to add more full on Guide's that will likely be recruited directly from the apprentice guide program.
We're fully aware that we're short staffed right now, and we understand what kinds of problems that causes. However, the answer isn't just to frantically add staff without closely scrutinizing new staff members. Whenever we bring someone new onto the staff they get watched like hawks by myself and Sirken to ensure they're doing what they are supposed to be doing. Our Guide position has a lot of power compared to what Guides had on live, and it's a huge priority to make sure that doesn't get abused. We just have to be careful.
All of that being said, we are adding new guides very soon. I've already spoken with Sirken and we've both made it a priority to do interviews this weekend, so if you have a guide application, or are interested in being a guide, make sure your thread is up to date and bumped to the front page. We are for sure getting 1 dedicated red guide.
Edit:
I can handle what I saw in that video faster than it took to make the above post.
Sure, but I had already been doing CSR work since 8 o'clock this morning when i started making those posts. Mind you this is my day off from work and I spent all of it doing petitions. I think I earned my forumquest time for today.
Kergan
08-06-2014, 09:48 PM
God damn fine I'll do it.
Super Hater
08-06-2014, 09:55 PM
there are like 70 players on this server during the day. most are just farming plat and the rest are twinks floating around killing new players. server community is bad and people aren't helping make it better. not saying its GMS faults. its simply the people who play here are selfish
Should the day players be power leveling you and making life as easy as possible for you?
Nirgon
08-06-2014, 10:06 PM
Ya no ill will on ya der Derubael. I know you gotta deal with some retarded ass muthas.
Genedin
08-06-2014, 10:35 PM
Thanks for taking the time to respond with a serious and comprehensive answer. For real.
dethbringre
08-06-2014, 10:51 PM
I recommend Guk
Seconded. I've got several toons logged off in there :)
Musetii
08-06-2014, 11:33 PM
You are one small piece in a much larger puzzle, have patience.
Can't save a sunken ship from the topside crow's nest.
Genedin
08-06-2014, 11:34 PM
technically you'd need some large balloons or a crane boat to save a sunken ship
Ames who?
08-07-2014, 01:19 AM
https://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10269555_10152538380621187_490231871079365837_n.jp g?oh=d3da24f945d957053c63f7b5e9acb8ad&oe=54365FCF
Clark
08-07-2014, 01:44 AM
Thanks for taking the time to respond with a serious and comprehensive answer. For real.
Lol
Cheesypoof
08-07-2014, 08:10 AM
Should the day players be power leveling you and making life as easy as possible for you?
Nah, they should be getting jobs.
Super Hater
08-07-2014, 10:03 AM
Nah, they should be getting jobs.
Maybe you can say likewise to the people crying about daytime players? I wouldn't know. I don't play in the day.
dethbringre
08-07-2014, 11:32 AM
Maybe their rich, retired hedge fund managers and choose to spend retirement playing elf sim all day?
Sektor
08-07-2014, 11:49 AM
Agreed, pretty clear they trained themselves move to resolved.
LOL gud 1
derpcake
08-07-2014, 11:58 AM
Each poofed item reimbursement takes anywhere from 15 minutes to an hour depending on how many items are involved. There's no way to speed this up because of the steps involved in verifying that the item poofed.
Ah so I guess I was right when I thought my petition about an item being ninjaed was shot down due to the time necessary to actually look into it.
Very poor show. 5 people willing to confirm it happened, ninja lost his guild over it and doesn't even play the char anymore due to getting taken the shit on after this incident, but staff couldn't be bothered to spend time on it.
CSR consistency is downright bad, sometimes service is awesome, other times its just plain terrible.
-50$ donation there :(
Kergan
08-07-2014, 12:33 PM
Ninja looting allowed on R99 dude. PK them if you don't want them to ninja your shit.
HippoNipple
08-07-2014, 02:52 PM
-50$ donation there :(
You offered the GMs $50 to get your item back?
Tewaz
08-07-2014, 03:00 PM
Legal RMT guise.
Clark
08-08-2014, 06:00 AM
Needs wipe.
LostCause
08-08-2014, 06:05 AM
wipe it clean
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