View Full Version : Fact - Red99 end game needs a little love
Stasis01
07-28-2014, 11:59 PM
3 years one guild showing up for static raid bosses all done 1 day out of 7.
6 days of nothing but a couple 3 day 1 hr raid targets that are also done consistently for 3 years.
GM's you have 200 ppl on nightly, but this is still a core fundamental issue with the box which the result is massive boredom throughout the week - and a non contestable situation.
The proofs there, this isn't about Az/Nihi. Don't be fooled - Sim repops are OK but might not be enough.
Pras GM's don't ban me.
Musetii
07-29-2014, 12:11 AM
Pras GM's don't ban me.
Rest easy my son, only Hurb gets banned round these here parts
Dullah
07-29-2014, 12:14 AM
If 2 guilds are required to compete and only 1 guild shows up at the mob, whose at fault for the lack of competition, the guild that showed up to the mob or the guild that didn't?
If 2 guilds are recruiting to kill mobs and the competition, and 1 guild recruits the players to compete and 1 doesn't who is failing to compete?
These are questions you need to ask yourself.
Grimjaw
07-29-2014, 12:16 AM
Pulling a R Flair and posting this again, since these points are relevant to this discussion.
come on guys, its not rocket science...
with variance, when the mobs are randomly spawning, then obviously there will be competition for it since the other smaller guilds know that Nihilum doesn't have 50+ online heading there already.. (like they do when they know its going to spawn). and yes you might get 50+ for 5 of the variance spawns, but eventually we'll get an even fight.
under the current mechanics it will simply never happen. right now nihilum is the ones who are blocking competition just by bringing over half the server population for a dragon that takes 15-20 to kill. With Variance, this wont always happen. And that is what variance will accomplish.
population # doesn't matter, what matters is % . Over 50% being in the same guild is a problem, and variance will be the solution to these types of guilds.
TLDR - raid forces will not be gigantic zergs every time so #1 guild will have a more approachable force on some targets as opposed to 50+ for all targets in a small window.
Stasis01
07-29-2014, 12:18 AM
The box will never grow to its potential of multiple guilds, mobs throughout the week, and contestable pvp situations without variance.
On one hand you say you're an army of 100 strong 24/7, but in reality you respond slowly, raid with only like 30 real hard dedicated people with another 30 kinda coasting till velious, but would easily crush any uprising.
proof has shown that we can respond faster, and even take random pvp fights with a more consistent focus on them, 1 sim repop every couple weeks then none for awhile then a bunch back to back is just not really enough to base a guild off of, we tried I thought it was weekly - even that might have failed. TLDR OH FUCK
I'm goin to bed probably just cutting this off randomly peace,
Bazia
07-29-2014, 12:20 AM
not enuff pop for 2 guilds no ones fault server just isnt fun enough to attract enough people to make 2 end game guilds viable
Kergan
07-29-2014, 12:20 AM
I enjoy when you make pro variance threads, because every time you do the chance of it ever happening goes down.
Dullah
07-29-2014, 12:21 AM
Fact - for the nearly 2 months Azrael was actually winning contested raid mobs, no one wanted variance including them.
|3igHurb
07-29-2014, 12:22 AM
Fact: Bears Beets Battlestar Galactica
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Stasis01
07-29-2014, 12:24 AM
Fact - for the nearly 2 months Azrael was actually winning contested raid mobs, no one wanted variance including them.
I felt like the Russians in WW2, figured fuck it why shouldn't the men rape some women and talk some shit and have some fun.
Ultimately in the back of my mind was who was gona go with who - and what was going to happen with the box.
If you think Azrael was gona ride off into the sunset farming mobs - you are short sighted, it woulda been .... something new - people riding it out in Nihi like a bunch of coasting homos worried about Velious loot can suck the big one, you passed up on something that coulda been epic, here's looken at you HB.
Grimjaw
07-29-2014, 12:26 AM
we were already drawing up the new teams
Stasis01
07-29-2014, 12:26 AM
Ok getting off my podium.
Eslade
07-29-2014, 12:40 AM
Am I too late for the rustle?
Smedy
07-29-2014, 01:27 AM
what yall need to do is
drop your mains, just take the droppables, sell the characters
make a twink
lvl to 25-30
enjoy the game
there's nothing at the end game except a bunch of bluebies who have clumbed together like cancer and singlehandedly voice their opinion making it sound like there actually is no truth to whatever the rest of the remaining population is saying
let em implode on their own garbage, the only respectable nihilum people are the ones who were there from the beginning, i have more feelers for the original nihilum members then i have for whatever cunt played on the other side and decided it was a good idea to jump over when the server was obviously turning into shit because of it.
Tradesonred
07-29-2014, 01:51 AM
what yall need to do is
drop your mains, just take the droppables, sell the characters
make a twink
lvl to 25-30
enjoy the game
there's nothing at the end game except a bunch of bluebies who have clumbed together like cancer and singlehandedly voice their opinion making it sound like there actually is no truth to whatever the rest of the remaining population is saying
let em implode on their own garbage, the only respectable nihilum people are the ones who were there from the beginning, i have more feelers for the original nihilum members then i have for whatever cunt played on the other side and decided it was a good idea to jump over when the server was obviously turning into shit because of it.
To me its picking out which one is the less bad, theres no way i was gonna get close again to a Lite loot council, crazy hateful people like rellapse and slathar, Syft, i mean jesus, talk about a roster from Hell. What else was i gonna do, go camp items on my own? Im sure that sums up alot of what some peoples questions they were asking themselves before making the decision which side to take. For me it wasnt for the easy loot, its just theres no other options, Azrael just too fucking toxic. Nihilum pretty toxic too but more crews around so you get to pick and choose more who you can hang with outside of off raid hours.
Having Lite as a leader is like getting run by some 12 year old drunk on power with the keys to the nuclear codes
Going after random red dawn members after their numbers dropped cuz of xp nerf, killing noobs in rags in Unrest saying to them "Nilly owns this place" as if it wasnt obvious those werent Nihilum alts, shit like that
Oh forgot about 3rd option, guild run by Jibekn the guy who linked a vid everytime i posted something of him killing my 42 sham on his 50 mage as if that made me mad or meant anything, for a year straight. Guy also refuses applications from ex-nihilum as if they had a leper taint, taking this shit waaaaaaaay too seriously (like smedy) knowing theres no other option but to quit if youre bored of Nihilum and possibly leading to -1 pop on a server with a fragile pop, great forward thinking right there.
Red dawn was the closest to a sane environment ive been in on the server, Heartbrand didnt bark orders at people like Nizzar does, asked everybodys opinion on guild matters often where Lite would never ask anyone if his lead was allrite although he made super bad calls in pvp all the time, he didnt want your feedback, wasnt interested in your feedback, cuz hes just that good, minion.
Nihi is below that and Azrael just breaks the bottom of the barrel, you guys need to look at yourselves in the mirror if you want to see reasons why people dont pick your team.
Inb4 Ecoli is a faggot, i rest my case.
Syft 2.0
07-29-2014, 03:21 AM
To me its picking out which one is the less bad, theres no way i was gonna get close again to a Lite loot council, crazy hateful people like rellapse and slathar, Syft, i mean jesus, talk about a roster from Hell.
First off I'm glad you took the time to capitalize my name!
But seriously just come to the dark side we have L's and Vagina! Sure you may not get your epic for your 14th alt, but I promise you'll respect yourself when you log off!
Colgate
07-29-2014, 03:33 AM
To me its picking out which one is the less bad, theres no way i was gonna get close again to a Lite loot council, crazy hateful people like rellapse and slathar, Syft, i mean jesus, talk about a roster from Hell. What else was i gonna do, go camp items on my own? Im sure that sums up alot of what some peoples questions they were asking themselves before making the decision which side to take. For me it wasnt for the easy loot, its just theres no other options, Azrael just too fucking toxic. Nihilum pretty toxic too but more crews around so you get to pick and choose more who you can hang with outside of off raid hours.
Having Lite as a leader is like getting run by some 12 year old drunk on power with the keys to the nuclear codes
Going after random red dawn members after their numbers dropped cuz of xp nerf, killing noobs in rags in Unrest saying to them "Nilly owns this place" as if it wasnt obvious those werent Nihilum alts, shit like that
Oh forgot about 3rd option, guild run by Jibekn the guy who linked a vid everytime i posted something of him killing my 42 sham on his 50 mage as if that made me mad or meant anything, for a year straight. Guy also refuses applications from ex-nihilum as if they had a leper taint, taking this shit waaaaaaaay too seriously (like smedy) knowing theres no other option but to quit if youre bored of Nihilum and possibly leading to -1 pop on a server with a fragile pop, great forward thinking right there.
Red dawn was the closest to a sane environment ive been in on the server, Heartbrand didnt bark orders at people like Nizzar does, asked everybodys opinion on guild matters often where Lite would never ask anyone if his lead was allrite although he made super bad calls in pvp all the time, he didnt want your feedback, wasnt interested in your feedback, cuz hes just that good, minion.
Nihi is below that and Azrael just breaks the bottom of the barrel, you guys need to look at yourselves in the mirror if you want to see reasons why people dont pick your team.
Inb4 Ecoli is a faggot, i rest my case.
didn't read
Clark
07-29-2014, 11:44 AM
3 years one guild showing up for static raid bosses all done 1 day out of 7.
6 days of nothing but a couple 3 day 1 hr raid targets that are also done consistently for 3 years.
GM's you have 200 ppl on nightly, but this is still a core fundamental issue with the box which the result is massive boredom throughout the week - and a non contestable situation.
The proofs there, this isn't about Az/Nihi. Don't be fooled - Sim repops are OK but might not be enough.
Pras GM's don't ban me.
Yumyums Inmahtumtums
07-29-2014, 11:56 AM
Fact - for the nearly 2 months Azrael was actually winning contested raid mobs, no one wanted variance including them.
I can't be assed to sift through old ass posts but iirc lite was making variance threads when they were winning specifically mentioning that them being on top still didn't change how he/they felt.
Quiet
07-29-2014, 12:31 PM
I miss contesting
Fact - for the nearly 2 months Azrael was actually winning contested raid mobs, no one wanted variance including them.
fact we talked about it and stated variance is still what we wanted. me and lite talked about this actually. and he posted it on forums as well.
no chewie dont
07-29-2014, 12:43 PM
Stasis back in nilly yet?
Not_Kazowi
07-29-2014, 12:47 PM
Too much caring over imaginary elf adventure pixel quest
Not Salem
07-29-2014, 12:49 PM
god ecoli is fucking crazy
Kergan
07-29-2014, 02:11 PM
god ecoli is fucking crazy
Cheesypoof
07-29-2014, 02:31 PM
Fact - for the nearly 2 months Azrael was actually winning contested raid mobs, no one wanted variance including them.
D3 release: 3/25/14
Nihilum starts loosing with Nizzar playing D3
Willian train: 4/3/14 Nihilum officially in the shitter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZOY...ature=youtu.be
Lite post: 4/12/2014 Pro Variance
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=147027
Kergan
07-29-2014, 02:33 PM
Who cares.
Sektor
07-29-2014, 02:34 PM
Pikrib just owned Ender
Cheesypoof
07-29-2014, 02:35 PM
Dullah keeps sellin the coolaid, i'm just here to make sure nobody drinks it.
Kergan
07-29-2014, 02:36 PM
Yeah I am sure people will leave Nihilum in droves or not apply because Lite posted a pro-variance post 3.5 months ago.
Dumb pointless who cares TLDR
Sektor
07-29-2014, 02:39 PM
Yeah I am sure people will leave Nihilum in droves or not apply because Lite posted a pro-variance post 3.5 months ago.
Dumb pointless who cares TLDR
Are you mad Pikrib just proved your guildie wrong so your response is who cares? Is that how you win arguments? lolz
Cheesypoof
07-29-2014, 02:41 PM
Yeah I am sure people will leave Nihilum in droves or not apply because Lite posted a pro-variance post 3.5 months ago.
Dumb pointless who cares TLDR
Think positive!
I would guess your numbers will start growing again with HB gone.
Syft 2.0
07-29-2014, 02:46 PM
Sorry we yellow texted your entire guild. :(
Not really sorry.
Do you even play on this server?
I'm sorry, I'm forced to ignore you until your guild realizes your actually a member.
Fix you're talk too matter ratio!
https://hiphopdailypress.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/20120624-133623.jpg
Kergan
07-29-2014, 02:47 PM
Don't care.
Kergan
07-29-2014, 02:48 PM
Are you mad Pikrib just proved your guildie wrong so your response is who cares? Is that how you win arguments? lolz
Not trying to win an argument, I honestly do not care at all that he proved him wrong.
Syft 2.0
07-29-2014, 02:49 PM
Don't care.
http://hugelolcdn.com/comments/1436894.gif
Dullah
07-29-2014, 02:50 PM
D3 release: 3/25/14
Nihilum starts loosing with Nizzar playing D3
Willian train: 4/3/14 Nihilum officially in the shitter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZOY...ature=youtu.be
Lite post: 4/12/2014 Pro Variance
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=147027
when azrael was on top. we still wanted variance. just because we knew it was the best thing for the server.
He did actually did make a post for variance even when Azrael was on top. You can go and check sorry i'm too lazy to find it.
please for the love of god do NOT add variance. this box has low pop atm we all know this and by adding variance its only going to greif the current players. variance is only good on a highly populated box maybe if we see numbers 200+ again i say go for it. but until then dont shoot your self in the foot
Cheesypoof
07-29-2014, 02:50 PM
Not trying to win an argument, I honestly do not care at all that he proved him wrong.
Doesn't care about guildies
in Nihilum
Sektor
07-29-2014, 02:52 PM
Don't get the point of your post except that Pikrib just owned your bias statements.
Bazia
07-29-2014, 02:52 PM
man u guys are really spamming the anti nihi shit lately
Syft 2.0
07-29-2014, 02:52 PM
Doesn't care about guildies
in Nihilum
Well in Kergan's defense Nihilum doesn't even know he's a member.
Sorry we yellow texted your entire guild. :(
Not really sorry.
Do you even play on this server?
Dullah
07-29-2014, 02:55 PM
please for the love of god do NOT add variance. this box has low pop atm we all know this and by adding variance its only going to greif the current players. variance is only good on a highly populated box maybe if we see numbers 200+ again i say go for it. but until then dont shoot your self in the foot
Sektor
07-29-2014, 02:58 PM
One Azrael member is against variance.How does that prove your biased comments which were proven to be wrong using facts by an Azrael member again?
Kergan
07-29-2014, 02:59 PM
Doesn't care about guildies
in Nihilum
I don't even care enough to figure out if you even proved him wrong.
Cheesypoof
07-29-2014, 03:02 PM
man u guys are really spamming the anti nihi shit lately
Honestly I don't care that much about Variance. I think we should try it for a couple months, but I would rather see 100+ people more online average more than anything.
Posting is more about the love of Forum quest than anything else.
Syft 2.0
07-29-2014, 03:03 PM
I don't even care enough to figure out if you even proved him wrong.
http://uberhumor.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/s3xcI.gif
Kergan
07-29-2014, 03:05 PM
Honestly I don't care that much about Variance. I think we should try it for a couple months, but I would rather see 100 people online average more than anything.
Posting is more about the love of Forum quest than anything else.
Nobody is going to start playing again or start up here because variance gets added. The only pool of players to draw from are people on blue...bring up variance to them and see how likely they are to go play on a server with it.
So if you want +pop you should be fighting the forumquest variance zerglings.
Cheesypoof
07-29-2014, 03:09 PM
read my sig its posted by a blue person who came to red and joined Nilly
Sektor
07-29-2014, 03:11 PM
We need mob rotations. You'll see more guilds and loot being spread properly.
Kergan
07-29-2014, 03:13 PM
Mob rotations? lol
Cheesypoof
07-29-2014, 03:14 PM
p sure that was a joke
Sektor
07-29-2014, 03:15 PM
Mob rotations will make it easier on me to get loot without having to join nilly you feels?
Kergan
07-29-2014, 03:16 PM
How about we just give you some loot if thats all you care about.
Sektor
07-29-2014, 03:17 PM
How about we just give you some loot if thats all you care about.
Sounds good to me.
Nirgon
07-29-2014, 03:39 PM
We need mob rotations. You'll see more guilds and loot being spread properly.
This is something you ask the Duke for.
R Flair
07-29-2014, 03:41 PM
he gonna let u rotate between royals and master yael
Nirgon
07-29-2014, 03:42 PM
He's gonna let you rotate on his nilly tbh
Clark
07-29-2014, 03:42 PM
loot is all we care about.
Cheesypoof
07-29-2014, 03:54 PM
I wonder if Nihilum would give me loot if I I stopped posting?
Or is that technically RMT?
Kergan
07-29-2014, 04:41 PM
Changing the text in a quote without a FTFY is only done by human garbage Clark.
Edit your shit.
Not Salem
07-30-2014, 02:08 AM
please for the love of god do NOT add variance. this box has low pop atm we all know this and by adding variance its only going to greif the current players. variance is only good on a highly populated box maybe if we see numbers 200+ again i say go for it. but until then dont shoot your self in the foot
ender making himself look real stupid in this thread
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