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Shrubwise
07-28-2014, 10:05 PM
http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q571/eleventyhundred/MinecraftLogo_zpsbb1fd52b.jpg

Do you play MineCraft? Join other Project1999 community members in a world outside Norrath. Come play on the brand new Project1999 MineCraft server, RedCraft!

198.27.83.149:25707


Public server. Established July 27, 2014.
Survival Mode (Normal difficulty)
Mostly vanilla (minimal mods. see below)
No rules. PvP, destroying other's bases, etc. Allowed.
No GM's or GM intervention.
No whitelist!
Add the server ip to your favorites: 198.27.83.149:25707




Patch Notes: August 17, 2014

The transfer to the new panel was a great success. No more lag, no more server crashing due to overuse! We share the new panel with 3 other servers, two of which are inactive. So there should no longer be players getting booted for "using too much memory" We've got the old world completely transferred over, including the original spawn point. I was unaware that Good Guy Gusy (admin) was doing so much work on the spawn point. And although I appreciated it, I didn't feel like it 'fit in' with the (mostly) Vanilla server. So I had him restore the original spawn, complete with the trolling which occurred there:

http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q571/eleventyhundred/OriginalSpawn_zpsfdd52411.jpg

Gusy also put a world border from -5000, -5000 to 5000, 5000. It really helps to ensure your map remains manageable. This should be more than enough space for folks to hide and build.

He also added the /spawn command to solve the problem where players were getting stuck. It has a long warmup and cooldown to prevent use for escape. You can type /spawn at any point, wait 60 seconds and you'll be ported back to the beginning.

We added the /sneak command at players requests. It toggles sneaking on and off (name hiding) without affecting other things.

WorldGuard. No creeper block damage, no fire spread, and no ender pearl teleporting. We see these as somewhat necessary to prevent griefing in sponge protected areas. I left lava flow on even though that is often used for griefing, because I think lava-flow-off ruins a lot of creations.

We added the sponges. Even with anti-hax installed, it'd still be very easy for a determined cheater to find other player's bases. This is why we felt like allowing base protection. Again, that is a max of 16 sponges per person, 21x21 blocks protected with each, bedrock to sky. They only protect block damage and block placement for now, not doors, chests, or PvP. Chests can be protected by placing blocks over them. Type /kit protection to receive your sponges. In your hotbar, they'll look like this:

http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q571/eleventyhundred/SpongeItem_zps54791057.jpg

And once placed, they'll look like this:

http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q571/eleventyhundred/SpongePlaced_zpse758536b.jpg

We've added x-ray protection and some minor anti-cheat stuff. These blocks can no longer be x-rayed: Gold Ore, Iron Ore, Coal Ore, Lapis Ore, Moss Stone, Obsidian, Chests, Diamond Ore, Redstone Ore, Clay, Emerald Ore, Ender Chests. Hackers, get lost, yo!

Game on, my friends.

DeruIsLove
07-28-2014, 10:15 PM
I might play this.

Rellapse40
07-28-2014, 10:19 PM
gonna come burn down some houses and blow up the map with tnt

Shrubwise
07-28-2014, 11:20 PM
So far 3 on tonight, come on over! Server less than 24 hours old and Relapse is in the lead for most deaths / most trash talkin'

Rellapse40
07-29-2014, 12:10 AM
I did what i wanted

burned down some little town some fat nerd was building

he logged on put on his little diamond gear in rage

http://i59.tinypic.com/eukdhs.jpg

Bazia
07-29-2014, 01:06 AM
thats an npc town

Byrjun
07-29-2014, 01:35 AM
No rules. PvP, destroying other's bases, etc. Allowed.

No thanks. Minecraft PVP is probably the least fun mechanic ever developed for a game in the history of human technology.

Smedy
07-29-2014, 01:42 AM
looks like fun i should play this whenver i get time, lol @ rellapse eating dick on the regular hehhahaheh

Swish
07-29-2014, 04:20 AM
I did what i wanted

burned down some little town some fat nerd was building

he logged on put on his little diamond gear in rage

http://i59.tinypic.com/eukdhs.jpg

box champ right there

Bardalicious
07-29-2014, 05:08 AM
You burnt down an NPC town.... Grats bro. You sure showed them!

LulzSect
07-29-2014, 08:23 AM
Do I have to buy the gMe to play??

Cookiefist
07-29-2014, 09:11 AM
Ill join some MC fun tonight! See how it goes...

Red_Psyphon
07-29-2014, 04:18 PM
Rellapse will get you

baub
07-29-2014, 05:50 PM
gonna come burn down some houses and blow up the map with tnt

never played minecraft but seeing the SSs of this was hilarious and baller as fuck

Alarti0001
07-29-2014, 11:29 PM
Was going to log in but pop 0/10 =(

Faron
07-30-2014, 01:15 AM
a minecraft server full of red players. Yeah it looks like it went exactly as I thought it would.

Grimjaw
07-30-2014, 01:34 AM
only ever played ipad minecraft and browser minecraft, how do I find the right client / version?

Rellapse40
07-30-2014, 03:27 AM
https://minecraft.net/download

DeruIsLove
07-30-2014, 06:32 AM
Joined up and was fucking around a bit since nobody else was logged in. Broke down more of the NPC village, created a lava spire because.
http://i.imgur.com/tPfEjoP.png
There's also another secret I put not far from the lava spire but I'm not gonna give it away. :)

DeruIsLove
07-30-2014, 03:23 PM
Yup, just like red99. Some dude in full diamond armor comes in, kills me in my leather hat, spawncamps me then starts talking shit. When I finally get away he says "run for the hills" as if there was an alternative.

Then he started to try to write my name in the dirt but he gave up when he clearly couldn't figure out how to make a 'G'. In the meantime I found a dungeon of my own and started my own thing, he got bored and logged off.

Just like red99. ;)

Bardalicious
07-30-2014, 05:35 PM
haha

Cookiefist
07-30-2014, 11:20 PM
I founded my cave! Made a gate thing with obsidian and jumped in only to find that it leads to a hole in the nether with nothing but pigs?! also, someone else made one so i reappeared at their gate in the middle of no where =(.

Started to venture out looking for other peoples caves but only found 2 mined holes were someone was digging straight down. Each very near to the village that is completely destroyed.

phacemeltar
07-30-2014, 11:55 PM
im shocked no one has poopsocked the dragon yet

Zadrian
07-31-2014, 12:34 AM
I got to play for 5 minutes, then I had to go grocery shopping and make dinner. Just like red99

DeruIsLove
07-31-2014, 12:42 AM
I've already become self-suffecient in my area, only reason i'll have to come up top will be to look for a greater variety of farmables.

Rellapse40
07-31-2014, 12:56 AM
yea that fucker in diamond gear got me 2

DeruIsLove
07-31-2014, 01:02 AM
Not cool kids. If you aren't gonna play fair don't play at all.

Next time make it less obvious and don't dig straight down on top of me.

DeruIsLove
07-31-2014, 01:06 AM
that fucker in diamond gear

I was suspecting some sort of hack/GM privilage earlier when he would immediately make a beeline to me every time I would respawn, even if it wasn't in line of sight. At the time I thought I was just overthinking it, guess I wasn't.

Rellapse40
07-31-2014, 01:12 AM
thanks for the diamond pickaxe

Rellapse40
07-31-2014, 01:15 AM
can see your nameplate underground

u started a base right by the starting point

lol

noob

DeruIsLove
07-31-2014, 01:48 AM
Nameplates used to have a 10 block radius. I see they increased it to 200. Lame. Lesson learned. :(

Rellapse40
07-31-2014, 01:52 AM
jerking off to all your diamonds i raided from your chest in a dark hole

ps i destroyed ur pedo farm 2

DeruIsLove
07-31-2014, 01:59 AM
jerking off to all your diamonds i raided from your chest in a dark hole

ps i destroyed ur pedo farm 2

One diamond pick axe and 2 shovels? "All your diamonds" I'm glad I kept 4 shovels, 4 pick axes and 2 swords on me. Just found like 8 more diamonds during all of your shittalking. :cool:

Rellapse40
07-31-2014, 03:13 AM
300 blocks of lava on your log out spawn = no diamonds at all for u

lololololol

DeruIsLove
07-31-2014, 04:29 AM
Whatever you say,

Rellapse
The
Inbred
Hillbilly

Rellapse40
07-31-2014, 04:35 AM
u mad bro

u spent all day building a pedo farm

to have me log in n destroy it all in 10 mins

quido
07-31-2014, 04:57 AM
my nephew plays minecraft, he's 8

Rellapse40
07-31-2014, 05:05 AM
game is more popular than elf quest

DeruIsLove
07-31-2014, 06:05 AM
u mad bro
Were I angry, I would have ragequit by now.
u spent all day building
Like an hour...
a pedo farm
A what now?
to have me log in n destroy it all
When I was three I liked smashing blocks too, I didn't brag about it though, and it certainly didn't take me...
10 mins
to do it.

Rellapse40
07-31-2014, 06:17 AM
o ya hes mad

gonna come wreck ur shit again

u ugly pedo fgt

Rhambuk
07-31-2014, 06:18 AM
this is sad

like sadder than shitsocking for 48 hours in a 15 year old elf simulator, yeah way sadder than that.

Cookiefist
07-31-2014, 10:32 AM
You had an underground Arboretum? Torch light to grow stuffs?

DeruIsLove
07-31-2014, 01:25 PM
You had an underground Arboretum? Torch light to grow stuffs?

I don't even know if the light is required, it's mostly the water which you can cover in half-block stone slabs so you can walk over it but the field will still be watered. You can even make it wicked easy to harvest if you build it sloping down with the planted spots in channels so a bucket of water will send everything to a single spot on the bottom.

DeruIsLove
07-31-2014, 01:26 PM
this is sad

like sadder than shitsocking for 48 hours in a 15 year old elf simulator, yeah way sadder than that.

ICWYDT :D

Rhambuk
07-31-2014, 01:38 PM
ICWYDT :D

:p

I don't get minecraft, im too old. I watch my nephews play and all I can think is, whats the point? but its minecraft there Is no point.

boggles me! at least I wont be getting this on vita next month

DeruIsLove
07-31-2014, 01:49 PM
:p

I don't get minecraft, im too old. I watch my nephews play and all I can think is, whats the point? but its minecraft there Is no point.

boggles me! at least I wont be getting this on vita next month

I feel the same way about GTA to be honest. I just like building fancy stuff in survival mode. I'd probably like creative mode more if I had an artistic bone in my body somewhere but eh...

mtb tripper
07-31-2014, 01:59 PM
http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q571/eleventyhundred/MinecraftLogo_zpsbb1fd52b.jpg

Do you play MineCraft? Join other Project1999 community members in a world outside Norrath. Come play on the brand new Project1999 MineCraft server, RedCraft!

2194722.mc.mpgs.co


Public server. Established July 27, 2014.
100% Vanilla, no mods!
Survival Mode
No rules. PvP, destroying other's bases, etc. Allowed.
No GM's or GM intervention.
No whitelist!
Add the server ip to your favorites: 2194722.mc.mpgs.co

Currently there are 10 slots, if the demand is there, I'll add more.

nice josh homme avatar, long live kyuss and qotsa

LulzSect
07-31-2014, 06:57 PM
do i have to pay to play?

Rhambuk
07-31-2014, 08:19 PM
think its just a one time purchase?

Rellapse40
08-01-2014, 03:06 AM
ya

Shrubwise
08-01-2014, 10:27 AM
do i have to pay to play?

Negative. One-time purchase then you're free to run amuk. I think it's $26.50 now.

Server population continues to grow steadily. We're averaging about 3 players per night, one night we had 5 online. Good times was had.

We've had some PvP happenings. Obviously, there's been no clear victor:

http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q571/eleventyhundred/ServerFirst_zps9e0c8cf4.jpg

My underground base continues to grow!

Rhambuk
08-01-2014, 10:32 AM
almost worth it to watch relapse get schooled

Cookiefist
08-01-2014, 10:49 AM
Did you lead pigs down to your lair? lol.

Rhambuk
08-01-2014, 10:50 AM
Did you lead pigs down to your lair? lol.

slampigs for those cold lonely nights

Shrubwise
08-01-2014, 07:38 PM
slampigs for those cold lonely nights

Bree Olson
08-02-2014, 08:05 AM
been having a lot of fun on here!

phacemeltar
08-02-2014, 08:47 AM
what version is this server running?

Shrubwise
08-02-2014, 10:32 AM
1.7.10, the most current release. 100% vanilla.

We had 4 players on last night. Although everyone appears to be in hiding, and rightfully so, it's nice to dig mindlessly and have smalltalk with pals.

Ereni
08-02-2014, 09:21 PM
OMW!

Grimjaw
08-03-2014, 12:50 AM
im about to dive in

Clark
08-03-2014, 12:52 AM
gonna come burn down some houses and blow up the map with tnt

lol

Ereni
08-03-2014, 02:06 AM
The server shuts down after .2 seconds of warning for the umpteenth time and I keep losing my stuff!

Rellapse why haven't you found my place yet? It's starting to look really girly.

Rellapse40
08-03-2014, 04:31 AM
o u want me up in your house huh

Swish
08-03-2014, 08:25 AM
you guys should add an 'erotic' mod for extra pleasure while playing

Ereni
08-03-2014, 11:31 AM
Don't you want chocolate chip cookies and pumpkin pie?

LulzSect
08-03-2014, 12:32 PM
mangina alert

Shrubwise
08-03-2014, 06:57 PM
The server shuts down after .2 seconds of warning for the umpteenth time and I keep losing my stuff!

So I looked into this. The server is supposed to accomodate up to 10 players. However I logged into the control panel to see the action log. The server has an embarassing amount of ram allowed (1024) and was resetting with 3 or 4 players, claiming "Too much memory usage for x amount of players". So what it boils down to the MultiPlay servers being lame and overpriced.

I've ordered a new server with 4 times that amount of storage (for cheaper). When the new server is ready I'll backup the world and switch it over. Expect a little downtime sometime tonight or tomorrow.

Faron
08-03-2014, 09:28 PM
actually wanted to play buy my piece of shit walmart laptop can't handle shit.

Rellapse40
08-03-2014, 09:30 PM
my 10 yr old laptop plays minecraft

just get more ram

Cookiefist
08-04-2014, 09:22 AM
Theres like, a shrine dedicated to hating Rellapse with tons of signs lol!

LulzSect
08-04-2014, 10:18 AM
expect me this weekend

Shrubwise
08-04-2014, 10:59 AM
Expect server downtime tonight for switching over to the new server!

Zadrian
08-04-2014, 11:14 AM
actually wanted to play buy my piece of shit walmart laptop can't handle shit.

See if you can download OpenGL somewhere. Being that your craptop probably came with a basic integrated video card, it most likely doesn't have OpenGL implementation.

DeruIsLove
08-04-2014, 01:05 PM
Whoever ruined the massive lava waterfall can kiss the fattest part of my ass. :mad:

LulzSect
08-04-2014, 03:21 PM
http://i3.minus.com/ibvZin7aKULWJu.jpg

Shrubwise
08-04-2014, 09:04 PM
The server is running on a brand new host.

Bigger
Better
Faster
Stronger

The new ip is 192.99.19.209:26282 (don't forget the port!)

Carry on pals.

Ereni
08-05-2014, 03:11 AM
:eek: The starting area was changed and reset so everything player made is now gone! What will Rellapse do without his signs?

DeruIsLove
08-05-2014, 03:13 AM
I'll just have to make more.

Rellapse40
08-05-2014, 03:43 AM
i never made any signs

someone posing as me?

Susvain2
08-05-2014, 05:22 AM
lol rellapse stay gettin griefed

kill him few times

let him build his shit back up and he logs off and tear it all down again lmao. ownd

Rellapse40
08-05-2014, 05:26 AM
obv u cant read

as i am the one destroying shit

but its cool i will never see you on any game that requires u to pay

u spend all ur money on heroin

Rellapse40
08-05-2014, 05:27 AM
ps tiggles tells me your tmo app isnt doing so well

Susvain2
08-05-2014, 07:21 AM
ps : u dig straight down it makes it very easy to ruin your destroy your shit

Shrubwise
08-05-2014, 10:13 AM
Le sigh, give me some time to figure it out. I think there was a world file I didn't copy over, I should have.
Is anyone savvy with moving server data across hosts?

Shrubwise
08-05-2014, 10:29 AM
Okay, so, the new server is up and running and will continue to stay up. However, multiple users are complaining that their stuff's gone, spawn point has changed, etc. I'm a complete newb when it comes to server stuff, so bear with me. I won't have time to figure it all out until tomorrow morning or evening, so don't do anything serious over the next 24 hours. The server will restart tomorrow with everyone's stuff back at the switch over point.

Lucidous
08-05-2014, 10:58 AM
Bah..... Just keep it !

Lucidous
08-05-2014, 11:02 AM
Actually get this plugin for bukkit. http://www.curse.com/bukkit-plugins/minecraft/citadel

PvP on vanilla minecraft is pretty much pointless. People sleep etc.

DeruIsLove
08-05-2014, 01:32 PM
Rellapse so mad. I need to make another batch of signs. With my macro setup I can place 40+ with their message per minute. :D

Ereni
08-05-2014, 01:49 PM
Well I'm having fun, thanks Shrubwise for all this extra work! Are you even playing on it?

Rellapse40
08-05-2014, 01:56 PM
only person mad around here is the dude that got his diamonds jacked

i have logged on once since then

keep making signs tho ur clearly not mad u dumb pedo

Archalen
08-05-2014, 03:35 PM
Server Population

Bluecraft: 1328

Redcraft: 2

DeruIsLove
08-05-2014, 04:20 PM
the dude that got his diamonds jacked

2 diamonds and one non-enchanted pick axe. What ever will I do???
/wrist

Lucidous
08-05-2014, 04:45 PM
2 diamonds and one non-enchanted pick axe. What ever will I do???
/wrist

Spend more time making signs about Relapse is my guess :P

Rellapse40
08-05-2014, 04:59 PM
lololol

DeruIsLove
08-05-2014, 05:36 PM
That's fine, if you want to talk about time wasted you should see how many buckets worth of lava the kid dumped in my old base and in the surrounding chasm/caves/tunnels.

Rellapse40
08-05-2014, 05:44 PM
ya def mad

Lucidous
08-05-2014, 06:04 PM
That's fine, if you want to talk about time wasted you should see how many buckets worth of lava the kid dumped in my old base and in the surrounding chasm/caves/tunnels.

So you want to defend time wasted in obsession by showing someone else who also is equally obsessive and wasting time?

(Also do you realize how long it takes to dump lava?) I can dump 32 buckets of lava in about 45 seconds. Jus sayin. (Not taking away from the Relapse is obsessive argument)

DeruIsLove
08-05-2014, 06:35 PM
So you want to defend time wasted in obsession by showing someone else who also is equally obsessive and wasting time?

(Also do you realize how long it takes to dump lava?) I can dump 32 buckets of lava in about 45 seconds. Jus sayin. (Not taking away from the Relapse is obsessive argument)

When you are talking about taking as long as he did to do the equivalent of kicking over a sand castle, yes I'm going to call him out on it.

You also failed to take into account the collecting of the lava and the size of the area he covered into your calculations. 45 seconds my ass. ;)

Lucidous
08-05-2014, 06:48 PM
When you are talking about taking as long as he did to do the equivalent of kicking over a sand castle, yes I'm going to call him out on it.

You also failed to take into account the collecting of the lava and the size of the area he covered into your calculations. 45 seconds my ass. ;)

You know you can stack multiple buckets .... to fill them up is just right click spam ... maybe 3 seconds.

Dumping lava every 6 spaces or so to allow for spread... 32 times... lets say 2 seconds a piece to be generous for you. 67 seconds... oops 1 min 7 seconds... mah bad.

DeruIsLove
08-05-2014, 06:53 PM
Lava isn't water, you can't go infinite with it spam clicking a pool. You also keep making the mistake in thinking that it was just a room or two and a hallway that he filled with lava. Just running from one end of the area I had to another would take two minutes and that's not even counting the cliffsides and side tunnels.

Keep saying that it takes 2 minutes though.

Lucidous
08-05-2014, 06:59 PM
Lava isn't water, you can't go infinite with it spam clicking a pool. You also keep making the mistake in thinking that it was just a room or two and a hallway that he filled with lava. Just running from one end of the area I had to another would take two minutes and that's not even counting the cliffsides and side tunnels.

Keep saying that it takes 2 minutes though.

I actually was there for the whole thing..... you were logged out. No one infinite spam clicked lava... was less than 32 buckets... that was just an example... either way 32 isn't infinite. It didn't take longer than a minute bud. Just basics.

DeruIsLove
08-05-2014, 07:03 PM
Implying I was talking about the first time when it was both of you who went down there. :)

Rellapse40
08-05-2014, 07:06 PM
u angry?

DeruIsLove
08-05-2014, 07:09 PM
It's clear y'all (to borrow some southern stupidity) are just pissed you can't find my new base.

Lucidous
08-05-2014, 07:12 PM
It's clear y'all (to borrow some southern stupidity) are just pissed you can't find my new base.

Lol if I wanted to find your base I would... game is boring without mods and only 3 ppl playing 2 of them being degenerates :P

Rellapse40
08-05-2014, 07:17 PM
ya hes mad

DeruIsLove
08-05-2014, 07:18 PM
I like the idea of 250hp walls and stuff. The only mod I'm truly interested in is the one that reduces the nameplate range from 200 to 20. No fun if sneaking is pointless.

DeruIsLove
08-05-2014, 07:20 PM
ya hes mad

So mad. I might leave work early tonight so I can start making signs.

Lucidous
08-05-2014, 07:29 PM
I like the idea of 250hp walls and stuff. The only mod I'm truly interested in is the one that reduces the nameplate range from 200 to 20. No fun if sneaking is pointless.

Citadel is a good mod, anticheat, Prison Peal ... if we get a healthy server pop, item/exchange is good and obsfucator, JukeAlert

Zadrian
08-05-2014, 07:55 PM
That 250hp wall thing sounds fantastic. Also the nameplate range. Please make those things happen <3

Shrubwise
08-06-2014, 10:25 AM
Well I'm having fun, thanks Shrubwise for all this extra work! Are you even playing on it?

Yeah, I usually sneak in a 30-45 session in the AM's and an hour or two in the PM. Not as much gametime seeing as how it's summer, but come winter, I'll have lots of playtime.

I'm still trying to figure out the world differences. I thought the switch was clean because all my base + itamz are still intact. Those of you who lost your 'stuff', is it possible your base still exists at the same coords? I assume everyone writes down their base coordinates...

Zadrian
08-06-2014, 10:56 AM
I'm still trying to figure out the world differences. I thought the switch was clean because all my base + itamz are still intact. Those of you who lost your 'stuff', is it possible your base still exists at the same coords? I assume everyone writes down their base coordinates...


Or at the very least, I wonder if their spawn points still exist if they slept in beds.

Lucidous
08-06-2014, 11:26 AM
Yeah, I usually sneak in a 30-45 session in the AM's and an hour or two in the PM. Not as much gametime seeing as how it's summer, but come winter, I'll have lots of playtime.

I'm still trying to figure out the world differences. I thought the switch was clean because all my base + itamz are still intact. Those of you who lost your 'stuff', is it possible your base still exists at the same coords? I assume everyone writes down their base coordinates...

Nah some of the entrance area was filled in. His underground cave is just stone now.

Get those plugins i suggested !

Shrubwise
08-07-2014, 11:17 AM
So, an update: I have a friend of mine who's more MineCraft savvy than I am, taking a look at the old world files and the new world files. On first glance, it appears that most of the old world was indeed transferred over. This would explain why my base and mine were complete. He says though that some of the files were incomplete or lost in the transfer, which would explain why some other players bases/stuff was gone or missing.
At this point, he is still examining whether or not the old world can be saved. If it can, I may re-upload it and bring everyone back to Sunday's progress point.
The other idea I am tossing around in my head is that I will do a fresh wipe and install (very minimal) mods. Such as some sort of anti-cheat (anti-xray), and base protection. I would still keep the server as vanilla as possible, but there would be new addons installed, and in this case, I think it would be fairest to start everyone back at square zero.
If you have been playing regularly for the last week and a half of the server uptime, I'd love your input in responses here or PM's. If the majority is in favor of a fresh wipe with new addons, we'll do that this evening.

Lucidous
08-07-2014, 11:45 AM
So, an update: I have a friend of mine who's more MineCraft savvy than I am, taking a look at the old world files and the new world files. On first glance, it appears that most of the old world was indeed transferred over. This would explain why my base and mine were complete. He says though that some of the files were incomplete or lost in the transfer, which would explain why some other players bases/stuff was gone or missing.
At this point, he is still examining whether or not the old world can be saved. If it can, I may re-upload it and bring everyone back to Sunday's progress point.
The other idea I am tossing around in my head is that I will do a fresh wipe and install (very minimal) mods. Such as some sort of anti-cheat (anti-xray), and base protection. I would still keep the server as vanilla as possible, but there would be new addons installed, and in this case, I think it would be fairest to start everyone back at square zero.
If you have been playing regularly for the last week and a half of the server uptime, I'd love your input in responses here or PM's. If the majority is in favor of a fresh wipe with new addons, we'll do that this evening.

Really... wipe it clean?

Zadrian
08-07-2014, 11:47 AM
Nuuuuu I put a lot of time in last night ><

KagatobLuvsAnimu
08-07-2014, 02:48 PM
While I have been spending a fair amount of my free time completely clearing out the largest abandoned mine I've ever seen followed by building a massive rail system... I can see the value in wiping it clean and starting over with basic mods, particularly the ones mentioned. :)

Lucidous
08-07-2014, 03:16 PM
The mods I linked are super good, they provide basic changes that make a sustain PVP environment fun. Obfuscator reduces the ability of Xray, Nocheat(obvious), Citadel allows buildings to have mild permanence from a single raider in the middle of the night (i.e. Rellapse's) also who wants to live in caves forever?

Prison pearl allows you to to trap someone in the end when you kill them with an ender pearl in your hotbar. Downside the pearls coordinates are transmitted to the player so his team can find you. If you log out with it on you they are released etc.

Jukealert basically turns jukeboxes into sensors that can records who is damaging blocks or crossing within range of the jukebox (deletes info if destroyed).

Fun mods.

Gusy
08-07-2014, 05:56 PM
Hi all. I'm going to try to clean this up a little bit.

Forgive me if I don't take plugin all of the plugin suggestions at this point. I'd like to stick to what I know and see if I can just make minor, incremental improvements.

Just in case there is no reset, if you lost a serious base, please PM me the rough coordinates along with your in-game name and I'll see what I can do, or if you don't know them, a little bit of a description. If all you had was a hole in the ground and a nether portal, please consider just rebuilding it.

Right now I have the spawn area protected, fire spread and creeper explosions off globally, and you can turn on sneaking without altering your walking speed with the /sneak command. That'll hide your name from a distance. If you'd really like lava spread off, I can do that, but it seems like overkill at this point. I'm going to put in an extremely simple base protection mod for now. I'll make a post when I've tested.

I'll defer to Bolinas on everything else. I'm going camping this weekend, so no computer access between Friday evening and Monday.

Shrubwise
08-07-2014, 06:08 PM
Oh, thank god. The thread wasn't complete without tranny porn.

Lucidous
08-07-2014, 07:11 PM
Citadel: https://github.com/erocs/Citadel
JukeAlert: https://github.com/erocs/JukeAlert

Ereni
08-07-2014, 07:33 PM
I wouldn't mind resetting everything but only if mods are implemented. It would be nice to build stuff outside that can't be peed on so easily.

Gusy
08-07-2014, 08:04 PM
I'm putting in extremely basic base protection. You might consider it too bluebie, but It can be tweaked. I primarily play on TNT cannon raid servers, so I do understand the importance of a healthy sheep / wolf balance, but I don't think it'll hurt to have some simple-to-understand protection for the time being.

This'll be based on placing blocks, sponges specifically. Placing a sponge will give you a square claim, bedrock to sky, and you'll only be able to use a limited amount of them, so your massive mines aren't going to be protected. Blocks are protected and that's it for now. Others can still open your doors, pull your levers, open your unlocked chests, and kill you. They shouldn't be able to pour lava or water inside your base. If you want to lock a chest, put a block over it. If you don't want someone in part of your base, seal it. Ender pearls should not work, so a wall should be sufficient.

Of course this is untested. Of course, this can be replaced in the future with something a little less protective, and of course, I love block durability plugins and cannons, but simplicity has it's benefits.

DeruIsLove
08-07-2014, 11:10 PM
Worth noting, while you have /sneak active, boxes/ovens/workbenches/gates/etc. won't work.

KagatobLuvsAnimu
08-08-2014, 05:28 AM
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Lucidous
08-08-2014, 11:16 AM
I'm putting in extremely basic base protection. You might consider it too bluebie, but It can be tweaked. I primarily play on TNT cannon raid servers, so I do understand the importance of a healthy sheep / wolf balance, but I don't think it'll hurt to have some simple-to-understand protection for the time being.

This'll be based on placing blocks, sponges specifically. Placing a sponge will give you a square claim, bedrock to sky, and you'll only be able to use a limited amount of them, so your massive mines aren't going to be protected. Blocks are protected and that's it for now. Others can still open your doors, pull your levers, open your unlocked chests, and kill you. They shouldn't be able to pour lava or water inside your base. If you want to lock a chest, put a block over it. If you don't want someone in part of your base, seal it. Ender pearls should not work, so a wall should be sufficient.

Of course this is untested. Of course, this can be replaced in the future with something a little less protective, and of course, I love block durability plugins and cannons, but simplicity has it's benefits.

Lame.

Gusy
08-08-2014, 12:15 PM
Worth noting, while you have /sneak active, boxes/ovens/workbenches/gates/etc. won't work.

This should be fixed now. Try it out.

I've also put in /spawn, another overly easy-mode command, but with protection, it is possible to get trapped in someone's base even unintentionally, through the weird portal linking problems, for example.

I'll try to get a long warmup and cooldown on it to make sure it isn't used for escape.

Protection is in. It uses sponges. It is 21x21 bedrock to sky, centered on the sponge. You can use up to 16 of them, and you can get one full set by typing:

/kit sponge

but do it somewhere safe because there is a long cool-down. Block placement, destruction and TNT are disabled in protected areas. Everything else is vanilla. Lock your chests by placing a block over them.

KagatobLuvsAnimu
08-11-2014, 01:52 AM
Server was down this weekend. :eek:

Shrubwise
08-11-2014, 09:55 AM
Yiss I just got home last night from bachelor party to find it was down. Gusy was camping this weekend so nobody was around, sorry. Looking into it now.

KagatobLuvsAnimu
08-12-2014, 05:25 AM
http://i.imgur.com/2uxto2B.png
http://i.imgur.com/PPEwmju.png
Nether portal is serious business. :p

Shrubwise
08-12-2014, 10:30 AM
http://i.imgur.com/2uxto2B.png
http://i.imgur.com/PPEwmju.png
Nether portal is serious business. :p

Hah! +1

kenzar
08-13-2014, 06:45 PM
OMG I was just finishing my skele trap and the server went down. What am I supposed to do now; play eq? lol

Shrubwise
08-14-2014, 04:17 PM
Servers down momentarily. Since switching hosts, we've been having service interruptions daily. They are moving our server to a less populated panel. I'll post the new IP when it's back up. And yes, we backed up the world this time :)

Lucidous
08-14-2014, 04:27 PM
Servers down momentarily. Since switching hosts, we've been having service interruptions daily. They are moving our server to a less populated panel. I'll post the new IP when it's back up. And yes, we backed up the world this time :)

Can we get rid of this sponge block crap.. its entirely too carebear.

KagatobLuvsAnimu
08-14-2014, 05:32 PM
Ya no. Don't need some fukwit with nothing better to do screwing up my shit while I'm asleep etc..

Lucidous
08-14-2014, 06:10 PM
Ya no. Don't need some fukwit with nothing better to do screwing up my shit while I'm asleep etc..

Then use Citadel. Sponge also means they cant screw with your shit while you are awake.

Shrubwise
08-15-2014, 10:59 AM
The hosting company is dragging their feet with the switch. This morning, I e-mailed and confirmed we were prepared for the new panel. So fingers crossed the server'll be back up tonight. Good thing, I've got a tunnel to finish.

Will post new IP when server's up and running. Thanks for your patience.

no chewie dont
08-15-2014, 11:16 AM
O wow a scrubwise server count me out!

Mac Drettj
08-15-2014, 11:17 AM
Survival Mode
No rules. PvP, destroying other's bases, etc. Allowed.
No GM's or GM intervention.
No whitelist!

interesting

Shrubwise
08-15-2014, 11:30 AM
O wow a scrubwise server count me out!

Thread got all the way to page 7 before you showed up. Chewie bro you're slacking :)

no chewie dont
08-15-2014, 12:58 PM
http://i.imgur.com/aisDF.gif
Ps call me bro one more fuckin time see what happens

Zadrian
08-15-2014, 01:00 PM
Ps call me bro one more fuckin time see what happens

You're gonna flood the thread with tranny porn?

no chewie dont
08-15-2014, 01:02 PM
No because I read the bible and therefore know gods anti-trannygif spam stance

Zadrian
08-15-2014, 01:03 PM
No because I read the bible and therefore know gods anti-trannygif spam stance

You can't resist your human urges brah!

Shrubwise
08-15-2014, 02:36 PM
New server is up and running. Loading the old world ASAP and it'll be good to go tonight!

Shrubwise
08-15-2014, 09:29 PM
New server is up and running beautifully: 198.27.83.149:25707
The hosting company moved the server to a new panel so it should no longer have any disconnect issues. All your items and base are intact.

KagatobLuvsAnimu
08-15-2014, 09:39 PM
Woot!

Shrubwise
08-15-2014, 11:13 PM
Now rocking two bases across two different islands. Constantly varied is the key to success, my pals.

http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q571/eleventyhundred/NewBase01_zps48e2f86c.jpg

Inside the moo-moo farm. Mmm, steak. So fulfilling.

http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q571/eleventyhundred/NewBase02_zpsefe55d6e.jpg

Next up: Gotta set up an enchanting room. Then a tunnel connecting the two bases. DIAMOND FARMING!

Shrubwise
08-17-2014, 01:41 PM
Update! See original post.

KagatobLuvsAnimu
08-17-2014, 01:47 PM
http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q571/eleventyhundred/OriginalSpawn_zpsfdd52411.jpg
dat sign. lol.

KagatobLuvsAnimu
08-18-2014, 04:40 AM
I think someone found my base. Popped outside for a bit to collect some bonemeal and arrows (since I can't find a skeleton spawner for the life of me) only to find a little present right outside my protected area...
http://i.imgur.com/FdOymku.jpg
Gotta admit I lol'd. Anyone wanna man up and claim it?

mtb tripper
08-18-2014, 06:11 AM
Now rocking two bases across two different islands. Constantly varied is the key to success, my pals.

http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q571/eleventyhundred/NewBase01_zps48e2f86c.jpg

Inside the moo-moo farm. Mmm, steak. So fulfilling.

http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q571/eleventyhundred/NewBase02_zpsefe55d6e.jpg

Next up: Gotta set up an enchanting room. Then a tunnel connecting the two bases. DIAMOND FARMING!

nice josh homme avatar

Shrubwise
08-18-2014, 10:22 AM
I think someone found my base. Popped outside for a bit to collect some bonemeal and arrows (since I can't find a skeleton spawner for the life of me) only to find a little present right outside my protected area...
http://i.imgur.com/FdOymku.jpg
Gotta admit I lol'd. Anyone wanna man up and claim it?

Hah.

We have an influx of non-P1999 players coming in. Although that looks like a P1999 player's work, it may not be someone from these forums.

Shrubwise
08-19-2014, 08:15 PM
If you've been thinking about playing, now's the time! Ever since we added the protective sponges, people've been more comfortable building more "public" bases. Our spawn is really developing a small town feel:

http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q571/eleventyhundred/Spawn1_zps1d44741d.jpg

http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q571/eleventyhundred/Spawn2_zpsab136efc.jpg

As of this morning there's only three claims at the spawn. Come claim yours now! And if you've been playing but haven't logged in recently, be sure to at least hop on and use the sponges around your base.

kenzar
08-19-2014, 11:22 PM
Why all this protection type mods? I thought this was supposed to be Redcraft not Carecraft. Can we do away with this?

Lucidous
08-20-2014, 11:17 AM
Why all this protection type mods? I thought this was supposed to be Redcraft not Carecraft. Can we do away with this?

This

Using a mod that increases durability of player reinforced blocks = good idea
Using a mod that makes all blocks unbreakable within a range = bad idea

SamwiseRed
08-20-2014, 11:19 AM
protected blocks? lol vanilla minecraft or its garbage.

Grimjaw
08-20-2014, 12:01 PM
EVE developers strive to keep the "sandboxness" in tact and try to balance risk vs reward with each game-change, where as every other game the developers cave to the whiners and turn it into carebare themepark. In EVE, you are never safe from other players. Whether that be getting your ship blown up or all of your $ scammed

KagatobLuvsAnimu
08-20-2014, 12:03 PM
In the end it's up to the server admin to run it however he wants to. It's minecraft for P99 created by a red player redcraft not griefcraft.

Lucidous
08-20-2014, 01:23 PM
In the end it's up to the server admin to run it however he wants to. It's minecraft for P99 created by a red player redcraft not griefcraft.

Ya how much "Red-PvP" has been going on there lately?

It's not Red if you have an impenetrable bunker you can hide in a the first sign of danger.

Zadrian
08-20-2014, 01:56 PM
Ya how much "Red-PvP" has been going on there lately?

It's not Red if you have an impenetrable bunker you can hide in a the first sign of danger.

How is that different from people hiding behind guards in EQ?

Lucidous
08-20-2014, 02:12 PM
How is that different from people hiding behind guards in EQ?

You can still kill the player or the guard? So.... vastly different.

pease
08-20-2014, 03:26 PM
elitist nerds.

quit being bitchy and come play.

KagatobLuvsAnimu
08-20-2014, 04:26 PM
elitist nerds.

quit being bitchy and come play.

http://socialogic.thisisplanb.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/shutterstock_115090369.jpg

Shrubwise
08-21-2014, 07:40 PM
Why all this protection type mods? I thought this was supposed to be Redcraft not Carecraft. Can we do away with this?

I cannot agree with you more on this. I originally started the server 100% vanilla in the hopes of making a completely lawless, wasteland of PvP, raiding and Vanilla MineCraft. I'm a very naive gamer, particularly when it comes to MineCraft which I've only been playing for about two months now. Unfortunately, and unbeknownst to me at the time that I opened the server, there are MineCraft hacks. Specifically X-Ray cheats for players to find ore (iron, diamond, etc) and bases. And even with Bukkit anti-xray in affect, Good Guy Gusy my seasoned veteran MineCraft pal told me it's more than easy for anyone to download the map off the server and use the hacks at their own will.
I was disheartened to hear this, of course. So in keeping with the vanilla spirit of things, I added minimal base protection to the server. This is where the sponges come into play. I strive for fairness, and think it only reasonable that players have some way to defend their hours of gameplay to those who would cheat. I'm all for losing it all fair and square, but to have someone's base raided by a hacker just wouldn't be cool. So no, I am sorry but there will be no doing away with the base protect.


Ya how much "Red-PvP" has been going on there lately?

It's not Red if you have an impenetrable bunker you can hide in a the first sign of danger.

Well you'd know if you hadn't stopped playing since the 2nd day :) There's actually been lots of PvP action. Keep in mind you can still kill people inside their protected base. Pease got himself a nice enchanting chest this way. Also we had a fun PvP war with some British gents the other night. So the answer to your question is 'lots!'

Reminder: besides base protect, anti-xray mod, and the /spawn command (usable once every hour to teleport you to server spawn point. People were getting stuck in other players bases they were raiding), the server is still 100% vanilla. So I'd still consider it very RedCraft, not CareCraft. If you see things differently I'd love to play on your 100% vanilla RedCraft server!

So, in closing:

elitist nerds.

quit being bitchy and come play.

http://socialogic.thisisplanb.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/shutterstock_115090369.jpg

KagatobLuvsAnimu
08-21-2014, 09:11 PM
The crap that gets done in creative mode.
http://i.imgur.com/kvRUBnw.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/QetJxt8.png
http://i.imgur.com/KXmkBhZ.png
http://i.imgur.com/5aRLwen.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/NgPVS0A.png
http://i.imgur.com/U7ztKw1.png
I'm surprised nobody's invaded yet. Territory is huge and in plain sight. :cool:

Lucidous
08-22-2014, 06:15 PM
I cannot agree with you more on this. I originally started the server 100% vanilla in the hopes of making a completely lawless, wasteland of PvP, raiding and Vanilla MineCraft. I'm a very naive gamer, particularly when it comes to MineCraft which I've only been playing for about two months now. Unfortunately, and unbeknownst to me at the time that I opened the server, there are MineCraft hacks. Specifically X-Ray cheats for players to find ore (iron, diamond, etc) and bases. And even with Bukkit anti-xray in affect, Good Guy Gusy my seasoned veteran MineCraft pal told me it's more than easy for anyone to download the map off the server and use the hacks at their own will.
I was disheartened to hear this, of course. So in keeping with the vanilla spirit of things, I added minimal base protection to the server. This is where the sponges come into play. I strive for fairness, and think it only reasonable that players have some way to defend their hours of gameplay to those who would cheat. I'm all for losing it all fair and square, but to have someone's base raided by a hacker just wouldn't be cool. So no, I am sorry but there will be no doing away with the base protect.




Well you'd know if you hadn't stopped playing since the 2nd day :) There's actually been lots of PvP action. Keep in mind you can still kill people inside their protected base. Pease got himself a nice enchanting chest this way. Also we had a fun PvP war with some British gents the other night. So the answer to your question is 'lots!'

Reminder: besides base protect, anti-xray mod, and the /spawn command (usable once every hour to teleport you to server spawn point. People were getting stuck in other players bases they were raiding), the server is still 100% vanilla. So I'd still consider it very RedCraft, not CareCraft. If you see things differently I'd love to play on your 100% vanilla RedCraft server!

So, in closing:


Who said 100% vanilla.... your mod solution is just fail is all.. there is better mod solutions for this out there.

Someone died in a base... they are inherently stupid then... all you need to do is place some blocks. GG

Gusy
08-22-2014, 07:55 PM
Please don't take offense at the lack of a durability plugin, Lucidious. Please let me explain my rationale. I completely understand if you disagree with the following, but you should understand where I am coming from.

First, 100% Vanilla Minecraft servers work great when no one cheats, no one wants to grief, and everyone simply wants to PvP (red). Vanilla Minecraft isn’t balanced well for competitive multiplay. I’ve played enough Sullon Zek, Eve, Darkfall, Mortal, MUD1, red Ultima Online, etc. to at least have a valid opinion about this. I’ve also played on Savage Realms, Gontroller and Daegonner, some of the most successful Minecraft Faction PvP servers, so I do understand exactly what you are saying, and for the most part, I agree. However, Minecraft is not Red99 or Zek. It is not Eve. Those are deep, well designed MMOs who’s rulesets evolved over the years. Minecraft is a baby.

Second, I put in the current plugin because it was easy for players to understand, and easy for me to quickly implement and test. Phanatic has used it on his extremely successful skyblock and skygrid servers, and it works well for what it is, a quick anti-griefing solution. I do understand that it is on the blue side.

Third, you aren’t debating with a professional game-dev studio, and you aren’t paying one either. Block durability plugins are resource intensive, and complex to implement and balance. Again, this isn’t Gontroller and there isn’t a full time staff. Nor is this a $100+ a month server rental. It is a project box that Orbi is paying for because he is a nice guy. It has limited memory and is running on a shared VM. As I said, I am very open to implementing a better system, but I don’t work for you.

Fourth, your suggested plugin, Citidal, shows the last release date as being December 2013. I’m not going to put in a plugin that I’ve never tested when there are currently maintained plugins that I have experience with. I’m a little bit confused why you didn’t check this yourself.

Finally, send me the IP of your thriving Minecraft server and I’ll log in and take some lessons. I’m not a pro. I completely understand that this isn’t significantly better than vanilla, but I also have my own server to run, and am still trying to actively communicate with the people on this server who aren’t too busy making lava towers to talk to me.

Dickgirls please!

KagatobLuvsAnimu
08-22-2014, 08:00 PM
I don't know much about minecraft server operation, but will the server eventually go to 1.8 or is it forever at 1.7 barring some kind of wipe? Just curious.

Shrubwise
08-22-2014, 08:01 PM
I don't know much about minecraft server operation, but will the server eventually go to 1.8 or is it forever at 1.7 barring some kind of wipe? Just curious.

Stay tuned. Big things comin'.

Gusy
08-22-2014, 08:08 PM
I don't know much about minecraft server operation, but will the server eventually go to 1.8 or is it forever at 1.7 barring some kind of wipe? Just curious.

Bukkit updates typically lag behind official updates. 1.7 took months. 1.8 isn't really as big of a change so it may come quicker. That said, the new block types and underwater dungeons aren't going to just appear in an 1.7 map, so that's one reason to consider a partial wipe. To some extent I can copy / paste bases into a new map. I guess we'll have to see what happens once Bukket releases a real 1.8 server.

Shrubwise
08-23-2014, 10:02 AM
If you've been playing regularly on my server, check your MineCraft Realms for an invite to my Realms server. It's 100% vanilla. MineCraft Realms does not currently support server modifications. At this point in time, it's just a side project and the playerbase is still playing RedCraft. I'm just looking into alternatives. Game on, my pals!

Lucidous
08-24-2014, 09:13 PM
Please don't take offense at the lack of a durability plugin, Lucidious. Please let me explain my rationale. I completely understand if you disagree with the following, but you should understand where I am coming from.

First, 100% Vanilla Minecraft servers work great when no one cheats, no one wants to grief, and everyone simply wants to PvP (red). Vanilla Minecraft isn’t balanced well for competitive multiplay. I’ve played enough Sullon Zek, Eve, Darkfall, Mortal, MUD1, red Ultima Online, etc. to at least have a valid opinion about this. I’ve also played on Savage Realms, Gontroller and Daegonner, some of the most successful Minecraft Faction PvP servers, so I do understand exactly what you are saying, and for the most part, I agree. However, Minecraft is not Red99 or Zek. It is not Eve. Those are deep, well designed MMOs who’s rulesets evolved over the years. Minecraft is a baby.

Second, I put in the current plugin because it was easy for players to understand, and easy for me to quickly implement and test. Phanatic has used it on his extremely successful skyblock and skygrid servers, and it works well for what it is, a quick anti-griefing solution. I do understand that it is on the blue side.

Third, you aren’t debating with a professional game-dev studio, and you aren’t paying one either. Block durability plugins are resource intensive, and complex to implement and balance. Again, this isn’t Gontroller and there isn’t a full time staff. Nor is this a $100+ a month server rental. It is a project box that Orbi is paying for because he is a nice guy. It has limited memory and is running on a shared VM. As I said, I am very open to implementing a better system, but I don’t work for you.

Fourth, your suggested plugin, Citidal, shows the last release date as being December 2013. I’m not going to put in a plugin that I’ve never tested when there are currently maintained plugins that I have experience with. I’m a little bit confused why you didn’t check this yourself.

Finally, send me the IP of your thriving Minecraft server and I’ll log in and take some lessons. I’m not a pro. I completely understand that this isn’t significantly better than vanilla, but I also have my own server to run, and am still trying to actively communicate with the people on this server who aren’t too busy making lava towers to talk to me.

Dickgirls please!

Never said this was a professional here. Just stating the obvious that invincibility plugins remove the concept of a red server. More like an arena server.

You could test that plugin you know.... Its an easy test all the info is on the github i linked and I sent you the IP of the mc server.

KagatobLuvsAnimu
08-24-2014, 09:25 PM
I've been contemplating building some type of arena/colosseum near the spawn for battles but I feel it's pointless since random griefer#3685 will just dismantle it because they can.

Shrubwise
08-25-2014, 10:25 AM
I've been contemplating building some type of arena/colosseum near the spawn for battles but I feel it's pointless since random griefer#3685 will just dismantle it because they can.

WELCOME TO REDCRAFT

Zadrian
08-25-2014, 10:49 AM
Gusy comes in to steamroll the naysayers.

Roll on, Gusy, roll on.

Grimjaw
08-25-2014, 11:06 AM
I also have my own server to run

go back to your horrible server

queue the trannies

bearterrible
08-26-2014, 11:02 AM
Pass. There are stacks of griefing MC servers around the place, usually very empty. I'll stick to the ones that centre on creative. YMMV

KagatobLuvsAnimu
08-26-2014, 03:17 PM
There are stacks of griefing MC servers around the place, usually very empty.

Solid point right there.

Lucidous
08-26-2014, 04:13 PM
Pass. There are stacks of griefing MC servers around the place, usually very empty. I'll stick to the ones that centre on creative. YMMV

That is fine... just don't advertise as redcraft.

Shrubwise
08-26-2014, 09:25 PM
Oh, I advertise as RedCraft. I advertise the fuck out of it as RedCraft. And I will 'til someone puts up something more RedCraft.

Lucidous
08-27-2014, 12:45 AM
Oh, I advertise as RedCraft. I advertise the fuck out of it as RedCraft. And I will 'til someone puts up something more RedCraft.

More purple than red really.

Grimjaw
08-27-2014, 01:36 AM
at first it sounded cool and was gonna buy minecraft to join, but now it sounds like Barbie's playhouse or something

Gusy
08-28-2014, 04:50 PM
Sorry for the long posts. I’m curious what MMO-type games you think have a more-red base protection scheme.

Take EvE, possibly the best PvP MMO ever made. Please correct me if I’m confused. In EvE you are only in danger when in a ship. That might seem moot because the whole game is in a ship, but really it isn’t. Also, if you make an outpost in a dark corner of space, it isn’t likely that anyone is going to fuck with you, but even if they did, someone who just joined the game today definitely isn’t going to hurt your outpost, right? Unlike in vanilla Minecraft where an unprotected base can be completely decimated by a single brand new player using nothing more than a diamond pick, some TNT, or water and lava.

How about Darkfall? I’m not sure if it has changed, but a player house was 100% solid when you were offline except the door, which is really just an annoyance. Full clan bases could technically be sieged by one person, but that would never happen due to the costs and difficulty.

In Rust when I played it last, a player could destroy a large metal base with enough C4, again expensive, and on many servers, virtually nonexistent (for a reason).

Now I played on Battlecraft (Minecraft), where they used protection plus redstone locks to defend bases. That didn’t end up being any different, because clicking buttons at random all day is not fun. I’ve played on several servers that used a TNT canon protection (durability), and though I think that is the best system I’ve seen so far, and well tested, it isn’t perfect. Existing examples like Gontroller and Savage force you to farm for TNT and obsidian all day, and the server still ends up being filled up with giant black bases that cost enormous resources to have any hope of penetrating. Basically as good as EvE.

So other than a durability system like canons or what Lucid suggested, I can’t imagine a more-red server that is in any way fun at all. The protection in RedCraft does not disable PvP anywhere, not even in bases. Bases can only be 80x80. Redcraft is actually pretty red. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Now, as I mentioned, the primary reason we stuck sponges in there was because it is simple, and thus, pretty close to vanilla. Orbi wants vanilla, and I don’t want to spend hours configuring plugins for a server that isn’t mine. Every durability based protection scheme has a learning curve. Nothing wrong with that, just that Citadel and TNT cannons are further from vanilla and take some learning and some tweaking beyond just putting down a block and getting on with things.

I’ve never put Citadel on a server I’ve built, even when it was still being updated, simply because I find it boring without a lot of re-configuring. Nothing against it, but as an example, a direct quote from the devs “For example, if you protect a glass block with an iron ingot, you will have to break the glass block 250 times before it is actually broken.” Your opinion may differ, but hitting a block 250 times doesn't seem like it adds any fun to the game.

I use TNT cannons on my servers because they add a fair amount more strategy with less effort. It would not be impossible to combine them though. The benefit of a canon-based durability system is that you have to shoot the TNT from a distance, adding some complexity to the mix, and you have to gather the resources. Citadel could probably be implemented like that with some work, such as adding a secondary protection system in to disallow direct TNT placement, and making durability so high that no one would bother to drill to your chests with a pick. Then again, I don’t know if citadel really adds enough value over any other durability plugin to make it worth gambling on a plugin that isn't being updated regularly. You don’t know the pain of trying to upgrade to a new version of Minecraft and then realizing that you can’t because all your plugins stop working. Vanilla has its benefits.

KagatobLuvsAnimu
09-03-2014, 03:47 AM
Did the sponges get disabled? I've been running around and noticed that I'm not getting the messages about the protected zones anymore.

KagatobLuvsAnimu
09-03-2014, 05:30 PM
Finally started poking up and building above ground/water.

Not quite as grandiose as I'd like it to be yet, but I am down to 6 stacks of nether brick so it'll be a bit before I expand it.

Building in survival mode gives you that feeling of satisfaction that creative mode just lacks. It's like EQ vs WoW.

http://i.imgur.com/FgoX8Ux.jpg

Shrubwise
09-03-2014, 08:32 PM
Exciting news.

The server has updated to version 1.8!

With this comes a long awaited change. For a while now I've been on the fence between base protect and full vanilla. I felt like 1.8 was the time to change. The server has gone 100% vanilla. I have disabled Spigot. This means no more base protect. No more /spawn command.

I realize this makes our world very vulnerable. For this reason I have enabled the whitelist. If you've been playing here regularly; don't worry. You're already added to the list. Beware: Boxes are no longer protectable and you will need to log out with your cherished items in your inventory for them to be truly safe. You've been warned.

As for now I will not be advertising the server. I am working on getting some kind of website up and a process for application to join, in order to seed out the would-be cheaters. Stay tuned, game on!

KagatobLuvsAnimu
09-04-2014, 01:38 AM
Looks like the areas with the bases have been saved but the areas around them are reloaded as new chunks. This is exciting because not far from where I was I found a nice little village where as I hadn't seen one at all so far besides the spawn village.
http://i.imgur.com/L3YhNJf.png

Then of course there was the part that I was really excited about.
http://i.imgur.com/BuXKDc9.png

KagatobLuvsAnimu
09-05-2014, 12:11 AM
TFW I died and the server went down before I could get my stuff :(
5 wither skulls...

Shrubwise
09-05-2014, 10:32 AM
There has been some billing errors and the service has been interrupted. I apologize. The server will be back up soon.

KagatobLuvsAnimu
09-06-2014, 01:48 AM
Nobody is ever on anymore :(

http://i.imgur.com/IxzXiPe.jpg

Gonna take a break for a while. Das pretty tho.

Azure
09-06-2014, 01:33 PM
I was on for 5 mins, but u really need a few mods like IC2 and thaumcraft, both of which have pvp related blocks and defenses if you want the game to be more pvp focus'd rather than more random chaos theory land focus'd.

the pionts about eve are valid, but also some of the charm comes from minecraft in that 1 person can indeed do a lot without grinding some 6000 hrs or RMTing their way to the top. Partly if you want success in minecraft have many small bases everywhere so you are not an easy target to wipe out in one go. But most people don't play the game like that.

If it was harder to destroy the terrain, and certain structures. It would be better. But more abstract towards realism.

Mods like thaumcraft have warded blocks etc which are pretty cool and have their own mechanics, like keying so only some players can access your 'enchantment or node structure, or storage structure.

IC2 has stuff like turrets that attack players using energy. Making for more strategic builds. Mix this with things like warded blocks and you can have some level of permanency that isn't completely OP or not strategic at all like bukkit protection.

On a server though these mods must be carefully watched because some mechanics create a lot of lag, such as the mob farming and resoarce/quarry/chunk loading/redstone mechanics. Though most of the mods are fairly ok. Other mods like witchery and blood magic and botania are way to OP overall. As well as expansions to thaumcraft like tinkerers construct, and tinkerer itself. Best to avoid too much generation and keep the game more focus'd on building and general fighting/working together to accomplish better builds and resource gathering.

Rules, like only allowing factions to build large quarries etc, would be a good way of giving people a reason to team up for megabuilds (lone wolfs can still pvp on their own effectively out in the world) but would give factions a meaningful mechanic.

Of course none of this is very meaningful with a sub 20 player population.

If we could get a regular 'legue' type situation (think mechwarrior clans, quake clans, leagues), were players would log on to acheive some kind of goal at regular times and those were the only times pvp was allowed (so no offline greifing) than that would make for a much more intersting, deep and strategic game.

But i'm just Azure, so definately do not listen to my badly typed ideas, at all.

Smilkers
09-07-2014, 01:06 AM
Nobody is ever on anymore :(

http://i.imgur.com/IxzXiPe.jpg

Gonna take a break for a while. Das pretty tho.

I've never played MineCraft but that does look pretty badass, Kagatob.
Always been interested in this game, but the learning curve seems pretty steep from an outsider's perspective. Maybe one day.

KagatobLuvsAnimu
09-07-2014, 01:35 AM
I've never played MineCraft but that does look pretty badass, Kagatob.
Always been interested in this game, but the learning curve seems pretty steep from an outsider's perspective. Maybe one day.

It's actually really easy. I don't have an artistic bone in my body and was able to come up with that one merely on my third attempt at a fortress. (I made castles in a couple of single player worlds a couple of years ago) Remember, everything is cubes so being limited to 3 directions at any given time when building simplifies it a ton.

I'm also a hoarder so I don't let any blocks rot so just imagine how fast you'd be able to make progress if you didn't take the time to store over 41,000 blocks of cobblestone in boxes like I did :p .

Azure
09-07-2014, 02:27 AM
I'm not a horder and I don't throw away cobblestone either.

P.S. NO U

Shrubwise
09-07-2014, 04:25 PM
I've never played MineCraft but that does look pretty badass, Kagatob.
Always been interested in this game, but the learning curve seems pretty steep from an outsider's perspective. Maybe one day.

You should give it a shot. The game really is quite smooth and easy. It's a good "veg-out" game. A nice alternative to the good ol EQ.