So how about some variance

[Grimjaw]

But Lite is just here for the PVP man!

Except all he talks about are raid mobs.

Blubie.

common guys, its not rocket science...

with variance, when mobs randomly spawning, then obviously there will be competition for it since the other smaller guilds know that Nihilum doesn't have 50+ online heading there already.. (like they do when they know its going to spawn). and yes you might get 50+ for 5 of the variance spawns, but eventually we'll get an even fight.

under the current mechanics it will simply never happen. right now nihilum is the ones who are blocking competition just by bringing over half the server population for a dragon that takes 15-20 to kill. With Variance, this wont always happen. And that is what variance will accomplish.

[Drakaris]

The griefers want a new way to grief, don't take the bait, low pop server does not need variance.

[Grimjaw]

population # doesn't matter, what matters is % . Over 50% being in the same guild is a problem, and variance will be the solution to these types of guilds.

[Jib]

I agree with OP

[Eslade]

population # doesn't matter, what matters is % . Over 50% being in the same guild is a problem, and variance will be the solution to these types of guilds.

As far as population percentage, I agree with grimjaw.

[Drakaris]

population # doesn't matter, what matters is % . Over 50% being in the same guild is a problem, and variance will be the solution to these types of guilds.

I'm sure the #1 guild (regardless of who it is) will have more alts to pepper at spawns than any other guild and the only thing variance will accomplish will be that any raids close to respawn window in any zone will be swatted to ensure the target is secured. It will deny new players from doing uncontested planes.

Are you guys really that dumb?

Simultaneous repops is the only way other guilds will see raid targets...

TLDR-
meh... wasting my breath... retarded forum trolls/ex-azrael members calling for variance again...

[freez]

I agree with OP

[Kergan]

Simulated repops already solved this problem. Move to resolved.

[Jib]

throw out sim repops

add variance

or make sim repop reset mob respawn time like it did in classic

[Kergan]

Or we could throw out simulated repops and not add variance, so you guys get nothing ever.

[krazyGlue]

throw out sim repops

add variance

or make sim repop reset mob respawn time like it did in classic

[georgie]

Inb4 wow instances

[Eslade]

I love the tag team of retardation and down's syndrome from Kergan and drakaris.
http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/52455918.jpg

[Jib]

^ lol

[Kergan]

I'm just looking out for you guys. Without simulated repops you'll get far less loot, and I like our apps to have decent gear when they join.

[Drakaris]

I love the tag team of retardation and down's syndrome from Kergan and drakaris.
http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/52455918.jpg

Yes, because you are a shining example of intellect and idealism.

Who ARE you again?

When was the last time you did something positive for the server?

[Eslade]

Yes, because you are a shining example of intellect and idealism.

Who ARE you again?

When was the last time you did something positive for the server?

Nobody and never.

How about you?

Kergan and drakaris
http://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/high19.gif?w=640

[Drakaris]

I'm just looking out for you guys. Without simulated repops you'll get far less loot, and I like our apps to have decent gear when they join.

[Drakaris]

Nobody and never.

How about you?

Drakar, long standing member of R1999. Spent my first 54 levels on the server in a nuetral noob guild, to see the basic truth. Half the server want to progress in the game and have fun, while the other half are degenerates who just want to grief everyone else off the box. Sadly majority of those that fall in the second half also sit around the forums talking crap all day.

While there are good and bad in every guild, I can guarantee that the majority of people posting for variance are the toxic players wanting a new way to grief the server (having the top raiding guilds waste more time to constantly have alts to check spawns).

They will in fact get LESS raid targets and it will only encourage ex-Azrael veterans to perma camp all their characters in VP next to Phara Dar room to snipe more PD loots rather than roam the greater world of Norrath.

Server will be more dead than it has ever been once u guys realise that you won't get any raid targets this way and you will blame the #1 guild and the cycle of bullshit continues.

TLDR-
Have helped many new players in my time (almost out of steam here). I know it is Ex-Azrael members who are actively griefing and blaming Nihilum for the server demise. Welcome to Red 99.

[Jib]

TLDR-
Have helped many new players in my time (almost out of steam here). I know it is Ex-Azrael members who are actively griefing and blaming Nihilum for the server demise. Welcome to Red 99.

all nihilum does is grief new players, you and tune both. stop posting in this thread please.

[Drakaris]

all nihilum does is grief new players, you and tune both. stop posting in this thread please.

What planet are you on? A group asked my alt to join in KC a couple days ago for dps even though I wanted to log off, and a circus of Azrael players started logging on their 60 mains (Edward, Bangan etc) and alternating between their hokuten tagged alts, while griefing the group out of the zone.

You sir, are delusional if you think I grief new players.

Tune hasn't random pked for over 6 months, I suspect you may be living in the past with Colgate

[Jib]

What planet are you on? A group asked my alt to join in KC a couple days ago for dps even though I wanted to log off, and a circus of Azrael players started logging on their 60 mains (Edward, Bangan etc) and alternating between their hokuten tagged alts, while griefing the group out of the zone.

You sir, are delusional if you think I grief new players.

Tune hasn't random pked for over 6 months, I suspect you may be living in the past with Colgate

need some serious forum moderation here. save your slander for RNF please.

[Drakaris]

need some serious forum moderation here. save your slander for RNF please.

You accused myself of griefing, I would call that slander.

Hypocrisy at its best.

I forgot to mention that the group, which got griefed out of KC also had Hotuken members...

I recently played with an ex-hokuten member called Meslow who was frequently chased and killed by Azrael mains and alts while he tried to level and would frequently testify that Hokuten consisted of mostly Azrael alts that had other alts in sister guilds just to pk lowbies (Baldwin confirmed as Edward, frequently griefed groups in CoM)... this is informative content consisting of facts, not rants and flames.

[Jib]

You accused myself of griefing, I would call that slander.

Hypocrisy at its best.

I forgot to mention that the group, which got griefed out of KC also had Hotuken members...

I recently played with an ex-hokuten member called Meslow who was frequently chased and killed by Azrael mains and alts while he tried to level and would frequently testify that Hokuten consisted of mostly Azrael alts that had other alts in sister guilds just to pk lowbies (Baldwin confirmed as Edward, frequently griefed groups in CoM)... this is informative content consisting of facts, not rants and flames.

more slander, I thought we were clearing up server chat... can we get this guy banned and delete these ridiculous claims of "facts" with zero proof?

[Drakaris]

more slander, I thought we were clearing up server chat... can we get this guy banned and delete these ridiculous claims of "facts" with zero proof?

Why would I lie about this? I used Meslow as an example as he uninstalled and quit P1999 for meridian after I took a break. I am pointing out the real problem with this server, which has absolutely nothing to do with variance.

[Eslade]

Why would I lie about this? I used Meslow as an example as he uninstalled and quit P1999 for meridian after I took a break. I am pointing out the real problem with this server, which has absolutely nothing to do with variance.

Your proof is a guy that doesn't play anymore.


Convenient.

[Drakaris]

Your proof is a guy that doesn't play anymore.


Convenient.

My proof is the fact that this server has 1 less player that played in my timezone and the reasons for it.

I'm sure if you want to get GMs involved they can easily confirm that what I'm saying is the truth based on IP address matching.

No slander to be had here.

I had a pretty crappy weekend, my character fell through the world and delevelled, tried to get a rez from a 'Hokuten' tagged group in KC, which said they would rez me and turned out to be Azrael alts because they were logging in and out of former Azrael guilded characters and tried to gank me instead. I came back and CRed later to find a mixed group, and was asked to stay around and dps for a bit, so I did, only to have some 'hokuten' alts from the first group come around and try to pk me (and the group members that helped me, which were ALSO tagged Hokuten) within 10 minutes of grouping. I came back on my main to find KC abandoned and the group ruined.

Meslow frequently told me that Hokuten was a bunch of Azrael alts, I thought he may have been a little on the paranoid side, until the encounter over the weekend. Luckily I was playing another game in another window, which made playing R99 less frustrating.

[Jib]

Why would I lie about this? I used Meslow as an example as he uninstalled and quit P1999 for meridian after I took a break. I am pointing out the real problem with this server, which has absolutely nothing to do with variance.

uh maybe because all your guild does is grief anybody not in nihilum? you have 60's sitting at our GB killing nakeds when we raid (one is your guild leader tune).

[mikemandella]

My proof is the fact that this server has 1 less player that played in my timezone and the reasons for it.

I'm sure if you want to get GMs involved they can easily confirm that what I'm saying is the truth based on IP address matching.

No slander to be had here.

I had a pretty crappy weekend, my character fell through the world and delevelled, tried to get a rez from a 'Hokuten' tagged group in KC, which said they would rez me and turned out to be Azrael alts because they were logging in and out of former Azrael guilded characters and tried to gank me instead. I came back and CRed later to find a mixed group, and was asked to stay around and dps for a bit, so I did, only to have some 'hokuten' alts from the first group come around and try to pk me (and the group members that helped me, which were ALSO tagged Hokuten) within 10 minutes of grouping. I came back on my main to find KC abandoned and the group ruined.

Meslow frequently told me that Hokuten was a bunch of Azrael alts, I thought he may have been a little on the paranoid side, until the encounter over the weekend. Luckily I was playing another game in another window, which made playing R99 less frustrating.

Azrael confirmed on summer break.. haven't even logged in for weeks.

[Drakaris]

Hi drak, flexin here. Jeremy is in no way related to hokuten nor has Baldwin ever been tagged outside of toxic. No reason to lie to you, there's about 4-5 azrael alts in hokuten. Your source is full of shit.

Hey Flexin, Baldwin isn't tagged in Hokuten, however, I suspect the actual player has another alt in Hokuten. Next time I will be sure to take screenshots of who was in the zone and the name of the characters involved, but there was 1-2 former Azrael characters in KC at the time probably helping the group get a tstaff for one of their mains and I was lied to and attacked by a Hokuten tagged member (some warrior), who later turned on his Hokuten tagged guildies I was grouped with later. The name escapes my mind, however, I will check my lists when I get home for more info.

[Bazia]

If a hokuten member attacked his own guild chances are it's a Nihilum alt or a Nihilum app as that was the case with the last 2 guild on guild hokuten crime I can recall

[LostCause]

uh maybe because all your guild does is grief anybody not in nihilum? you have 60's sitting at our GB killing nakeds when we raid (one is your guild leader tune).

cry more on a pvp server.

[Drakaris]

If a hokuten member attacked his own guild chances are it's a Nihilum alt or a Nihilum app as that was the case with the last 2 guild on guild hokuten crime I can recall

That would be the case, except he attacked a Nihilum guilded alt and was working with ilillill (who is a known Azrael alt).

[Farzo]

all nihilum does is grief new players, you and tune both. stop posting in this thread please.

Total bs.

Tune willingly PLed me at one point in MM and helped pull a SoulFire mob for me loooooooong before I joined Nihilum.

Long before I knew who he was too: never gave off any elitist vibes or shit talk.

All I did was ask him nicely and he said sure nps.

Terrible liar Jib.

P.s. it was acts like this that swayed me towards Nilly when Az alts were busy fungi killing me coz they sucked dick at end game content....lets get that in to perspective please.

P.s.s. another nilly player gave me a very nice paladin weapon too, after another nilly player ported me to gfay while this player ran to gfay to give it to me.

P.s.s.s another nilly player used to group with me in com/sola (had a massive 6-8 gained level group in sola) and he gave me pretty much all the drops since my gear sucked. ( and for the record not once was azreal or server history mentioned in probably 8-10 hrs of grouping)

All these decent acts of kindness long before my app for nilly got posted.

Let's not forget all the help Drakar has given me too.

To be fair also not all help came from nilly:
Flexin helped me too! Some random dude gave me some good stuff then went all bipolar or something too and an Azrael bound warrior/druid did too.

With all the above mentioned it would be a large part of the reason I still play, and assuming other new players too.

@jib - Now you see no one who logs in for more than 2-4 hours a week wants to join a guild with a proganda level so high that Kimmy from North Korea would be proud of.

[Smedy]

sounds to me pvp happened and you couldn't hang so you got forced into the blue pve ball of death

keep swingin, you got competition tho, lots of followers swinging hard lately to display their affection for the duke, the market is very saturated

[Bazia]

Tune a nice guy

def didn't spend 14 hours a day running around every zone on the server double dirging (When it was broken and perma locked people) any level 52 on the server that wasn't a Nihilum alt for 4 months straight until he got suspended for PNP violations

[mostbitter]

I remember only a week ago Jib and bazia trying to convince everyone that hokuten had no azrael alts now they openly admit to having 4 or 5??? Not sounding terribly trustworthy

[Bazia]

At the time only 2 alts in Hokuten had retired Azrael mains, I haven't played in like 3 weeks though so I can't speak for the current situation

Griefing Japanese/Brazillians on Unturned much more entertaining then red99 atm sadly

[Smedy]

probably has more nihilum alts, definitly not trustworthy

[Farzo]

probably has more future nihilum mains, definitly better for them

lol sorry had to edit it =D.

It's all fun n games isn't it boys?

[Pikrib]

Total bs.

Tune willingly PLed me at one point in MM and helped pull a SoulFire mob for me loooooooong before I joined Nihilum.

Long before I knew who he was too: never gave off any elitist vibes or shit talk.

All I did was ask him nicely and he said sure nps.

Terrible liar Jib.

P.s. it was acts like this that swayed me towards Nilly when Az alts were busy fungi killing me coz they sucked dick at end game content....lets get that in to perspective please.

P.s.s. another nilly player gave me a very nice paladin weapon too, after another nilly player ported me to gfay while this player ran to gfay to give it to me.

P.s.s.s another nilly player used to group with me in com/sola (had a massive 6-8 gained level group in sola) and he gave me pretty much all the drops since my gear sucked. ( and for the record not once was azreal or server history mentioned in probably 8-10 hrs of grouping)

All these decent acts of kindness long before my app for nilly got posted.

Let's not forget all the help Drakar has given me too.

To be fair also not all help came from nilly:
Flexin helped me too! Some random dude gave me some good stuff then went all bipolar or something too and an Azrael bound warrior/druid did too.

With all the above mentioned it would be a large part of the reason I still play, and assuming other new players too.

@jib - Now you see no one who logs in for more than 2-4 hours a week wants to join a guild with a proganda level so high that Kimmy from North Korea would be proud of.

Vegemite

I'm glad your not totaly drinking the Nihilum coolaid. The reason Tune plvled you was because Nihilum really needed more people at the time. It wasn't because it was out of the kindness of his heart. Tune would farm anyone not in Nihilum constantly back in the day. Tune has rallied more people to the resistances banner than most of Nihilum combined. I'm not saying Tune is a bad person at all. In fact hes probably a decent fellow. I personally have never had any issue with him, but he did those nice things because Nihilum was loosing and they just needed warm bodies to throw at the resistance.

A lot of what Jib said about Nihilum griefing new players was true even if you havn't been on the server long enough to see it.

P.s.s.s.s Sorry to bring this up because I don't want to make this into a "Im a good person" kinda thread. Pikrib tagged Azrael at the time gave your Oasis group weapons, Buffs, some of my time plvling and resses (when some dick trained specs). I think I ressed ya on the side once after I met ya (I can't confirm this I res alot of people).

[Kergan]

I see a bright future ahead for Hokuten, considering we're debating who has more alts parked in it. I'd say somewhere between 20-30% of that entire guild is an Az/Nihilum alt lol.

[Jib]

I see a bright future ahead for Hokuten, considering we're debating who has more alts parked in it. I'd say somewhere between 20-30% of that entire guild is an Az/Nihilum alt lol.

best part is i know who all the nihilum alts are i just choose to leave them in to counter spy :)

[Kergan]

Vegemite

I'm glad your not totaly drinking the Nihilum coolaid. The reason Tune plvled you was because Nihilum really needed more people at the time. It wasn't because it was out of the kindness of his heart. Tune would farm anyone not in Nihilum constantly back in the day. Tune has rallied more people to the resistances banner than most of Nihilum combined. I'm not saying Tune is a bad person at all. In fact hes probably a decent fellow. I personally have never had any issue with him, but he did those nice things because Nihilum was loosing and they just needed warm bodies to throw at the resistance.

A lot of what Jib said about Nihilum griefing new players was true even if you havn't been on the server long enough to see it.

P.s.s.s.s Sorry to bring this up because I don't want to make this into a "Im a good person" kinda thread. Pikrib tagged Azrael at the time gave your Oasis group weapons, Buffs, some of my time plvling and resses (when some dick trained specs). I think I ressed ya on the side once after I met ya (I can't confirm this I res alot of people).

So is killing a player considered griefing now or what? Sure Tune did the whole PVP board farming thing, but he'd kill you once and move on. Wasn't like he was corpse camping you, exp lossing you, killing you on a supertwink like Mrbigs (Azrael character) or other things you could actually consider grief.

But after he got banned for tab targeting someone in mass PVP (a rule which was changed later on) he pretty much stopped that PVP all together. I think he felt he was a target for the staff because so many people whined about him PVPing all the time. So this was months and months ago now.

Before I was tagged or anyone in Nihilum knew who I was, I saw the way the server was. I was killed naked on CR, right after rezzes, trained for exp loss....all by Azrael. I ate my death from Tune in CoM at 52 like everybody else, was not a big deal. The best was Stasis killing me 10 seconds after I got rezzed because I had died to a mob and I had the gall to accept a rez from a Nihilum cleric. I didn't whine about it, but when one guild is killing you on CR and after rezzes and the other guild is helping you CR and giving you rezzes the choice ain't that tough bro. You guys can cry about the nutswinging, blubieness and whatever else you want but the fact of the matter is Azrael does our recruiting for us by shitting up the forums and ooc constantly, treating new players like shit and basically being a bunch of greasy assholes in game.

But hey, let's change the server rules so they can compete while still acting like assholes to everyone, instead of being Nihilum doormats because they can't recruit a raid force to challenge us...that will be great for R99.

[Kergan]

best part is i know who all the nihilum alts are i just choose to leave them in to counter spy :)

Yeah you've already kicked out like 3 people who were "spies" who actually weren't. Pretty soon you won't have a guild left unless you leave the spies in.

[Genedin]

Tune sat at Hokuten guild bind for about 4 hours killing any naked person that died on our sky raid.

This is griefing and camping a guild bind. This is a sickness. You look like so many fools defending the honor of these toxic people.

[Kergan]

Tune sat at Hokuten guild bind for about 4 hours killing any naked person that died on our sky raid.

This is griefing and camping a guild bind. This is a sickness. You look like so many fools defending the honor of these toxic people.

Yeah ok.

I'd also like to add that I'd feel bad for Hokuten/disappointed in Nihilum if it wasn't for the fact that the recruitment thread basically declares war on Nihilum. Would fully expect my guild to get shit on if I did that.

[Jib]

Tune sat at Hokuten guild bind for about 4 hours killing any naked person that died on our sky raid.

This is griefing and camping a guild bind. This is a sickness. You look like so many fools defending the honor of these toxic people.

Keep in mind Tune is the guild leader of Nhilum and he sets the example for all the rest of his members.

[Kergan]

Keep in mind Tune is the guild leader of Nhilum and he sets the example for all the rest of his members.

Yeah.

I'd also like to add that I'd feel bad for Hokuten/disappointed in Nihilum if it wasn't for the fact that the recruitment thread basically declares war on Nihilum. Would fully expect my guild to get shit on if I did that.

[Cheesypoof]

This is back before the PnP So Tune did some CCing bugging mobs and corpses etc. After he ate a ban or two he finally backed off. I'm not calling it grief because I was never griefed, but I believe Rexx(?) even used the grief word on Tune in the past.

Usually you can trust people who have not eaten bans in the past.

Don't trust the people who have been banned before.

[Kergan]

Do forum bans count?

[no chewie dont]

Doubt any of u could grief ur way outta a wet paper bag even pre grief nerf

[Kergan]

lol

[Koota]

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh variance. WAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH

[Syft 2.0]

I see a bright future ahead for Hokuten, considering we're debating who has more alts parked in it. I'd say somewhere between 20-30% of that entire guild is an Az/Nihilum alt lol.

That's not bad actually less spies than there is in Nihilum! You'd be amazed to know how many of your guildmates feed me info...

[Kergan]

No I wouldn't.

[Eslade]

No I wouldn't.

Kergan is one of our informants.

[Kergan]

Naw. Comeon man gonna get me guildremoved.

[Eslade]

Naw. Comeon man gonna get me guildremoved.

It's cool dude, we have your spot +200dkp after they kick you, like we agreed.

[Kergan]

200 Hokuten dkp? Assuming you get 1 DKP per raid mob that would give me twice as much DKP as the rest of the guild combined.

[Eslade]

200 Hokuten dkp? Assuming you get 1 DKP per raid mob that would give me twice as much DKP as the rest of the guild combined.

Keep up the good work.

[Drakaris]

Just really disappointed with the #2 guild right now. I'd say Red Dawn was the only other raid oriented guild in the history of this server that I would consider joining if I wasn't in Nihilum.

Shame that certain members of this server feel like Azrael or their mindset is the only answer to Nihilum. If Azrael cared about Hokuten getting dragons, they would make plays at PD so Hokuten could snipe more stuff whenever there was a server repop, but we all know Hokuten are Azrael alts, so they can't be in 2 places at once...

Instead you guys are shitting up the forums and are trying to destroy the server further by crying for variance... knowing the only thing variance will achieve is forcing Nihilum to poop-sock...

Typical griefing scum...

[Eslade]

Just really disappointed with the #2 guild right now. I'd say Red Dawn was the only other raid oriented guild in the history of this server that I would consider joining if I wasn't in Nihilum.

Shame that certain members of this server feel like Azrael or their mindset is the only answer to Nihilum. If Azrael cared about Hokuten getting dragons, they would make plays at PD so Hokuten could snipe more stuff whenever there was a server repop, but we all know Hokuten are Azrael alts, so they can't be in 2 places at once...

Instead you guys are shitting up the forums and are trying to destroy the server further by crying for variance... knowing the only thing variance will achieve is forcing Nihilum to poop-sock...

Typical griefing scum...

http://cdn.arwrath.com/2/272614.gif

[Jib]

Holy shit some people are stupid

[Clark]

The griefers want a new way to grief, don't take the bait, low pop server does not need variance.

Stfu retard.

[Drakaris]

Stfu retard.

LOL says the nut-swinging dumbass (yes nut-swinging is possible off Lite and Jibs nuts too!)... Variance = poop socking with level 1 alts = less pvp...