If you really wanted competition...

[heartbrand]

You'd be arguing for things that increase server pop, and hence increase the number of competing guilds. You'd be arguing for blue copies/transfers, PVP Fixes still not done since 2011, moderation of OOC and the forums which turn 95% of prospective players off to this server, GM enforcement of rules, actual gm events. Instead you're here bitching about Variance, something that killed competition on the blue server as the largest neckbeard guild scooped up 99% of all raid mobs.

[Smedy]

more pop has happened, nihilum recruited em all

jewsack ur shit somewhere else dog

[no chewie dont]

Rofl yes its not too late! 2014 will be the summer of competition and legitimacy

[Dullah]

Nihilum still raiding with sub 40 99% of the time. Couldn't even break 35 for hoshkar this week and only 29 for velious test raids.

[Smedy]

new box coming soon

classic era pvp best , fresh bloods and new fun, this box is cursed by retards

[Dullah]

Spoiler: its gonna fail.

[Sheriff]

Rofl yes its not too late! 2014 will be the summer of competition and legitimacy

I'm so happy you are back.

[Quiet]

Forced Rotation. Nothing to bitch about then.

Velious = Nihilum pixel fest.

[lite]

TLDR, OP known to have 0 integrity and will flip flop predictably

[Nirgon]

Dark Souls 2 classic as fuck atm for me.

I'd suggest everyone here TAKE A BREAK.

All this stuff with character deletions (seriously who cares) and finger pointing/tinfoiling on a multi-year Kunark experience is a brand of toxic immersion levels I do not dare to comprehend.

[Dullah]

Dude if other guilds don't thrive in velious, they are out of excuses (not that theres any legit excuses now).

Theres so much fucking content, quests, armor sets to do on top of how easy it is to fight other guilds engaged in 10 minute pve battles, if you can't find a way to have fun and enjoy the game you should just pack it in an retire from EQ.

[krazyGlue]

Forced Rotation. Nothing to bitch about then.

Velious = Nihilum pixel fest.

kill your self

[krazyGlue]

Dude if other guilds don't thrive in velious, they are out of excuses (not that theres any legit excuses now).

Theres so much fucking content, quests, armor sets to do on top of how easy it is to fight other guilds engaged in 10 minute pve battles, if you can't find a way to have fun and enjoy the game you should just pack it in an retire from EQ.

explain to us why variance is bad. variance will stop the 1 day pixels fest. it will bring MASS pvp ( what we are all here for i think) back. + happening more often

[Dullah]

You have a server designed to allow players to fight over items at set times and you ask me to explain why a system where people will kill mobs at random times completely uncontested is bad?

Won't waste my time.

[Quiet]

explain to us why variance is bad. variance will stop the 1 day pixels fest. it will bring MASS pvp ( what we are all here for i think) back. + happening more often

Idiot

[lite]

You have a server designed to allow players to fight over items at set times and you ask me to explain why a system where people will randomly kill mobs uncontested is bad?

Won't waste my time.

server designed for players to fight over items at set times, yet 99.999% of mobs have gone uncontested. great design, lets keep it.

[heartbrand]

What Az thinks Variance is = Completely random spawns of Phara Dar for chances @ sniping crowns

What variance really is = 75% of mobs spawning @ 3am in the morning, confined to tight windows that only Nihilum knows about, while everyone else is sleeping

[Quiet]

server designed for players to fight over items at set times, yet 99.999% of mobs have gone uncontested. great design, lets keep it.

If ya cant get enough players to log on when you know exactly what time they are going to spawn, how do you expect to accomplish this when you don't know?

[heartbrand]

If ya cant get enough players to log on when you know exactly what time they are going to spawn, how do you expect to accomplish this when you don't know?

because they will be online 24/7 killing level 35 rangers dude, haven't you gotten the memo?

[Quiet]

Mob spawns at 10am on a Saturday. If you cant generate 50 players to be online in a coordinated effort for a 2 hour time period to clean up, the idea that you can maintain that number for over 12 hour periods when you have no idea at what point the mob will spawn is ludicrous.

[Dullah]

server designed for players to fight over items at set times, yet 99.999% of mobs have gone uncontested. great design, lets keep it.

Whose fault is that really?

I'll give you a hint
Its your fault.

[Mac Drettj]

Variance = mass pvp yall

[Jib]

variance would increase server pop, we been fightin for it almost a year now

[Dullah]

Broccoli causes spastic colon and leukemia, been telling my mom all my life.

Am I doing this right?

[lite]

Whose fault is that really?

I'll give you a hint
Its your fault.


Anyone can make a guild .. Are you saying I am the only one at fault ? I am pretty sure I am not the only one to create a guild on this server. Does that mean Rexx Heartbrand Cast and all others are at fault as well? Under your logic anyone that hasn't created a successful contesting guild is at fault, including yourself.

[Dullah]

If 2 guilds are required to compete and only 1 guild shows up at the mob, which guild isn't competing, the guild that showed up to the mob or the guild that didn't?

If 2 guilds are recruiting to kill mobs and the competition and 1 guild recruits the players to compete and 1 doesn't who is failing to compete?

These are questions you need to ask yourself.

[krazyGlue]

when azrael was on top. we still wanted variance. just because we knew it was the best thing for the server.

[heartbrand]

Love this guy. Azrael had fall into their lap the biggest breaks this server has ever had since it was released.

1) A coordinated GM Effort with relaunch that spammed Blue players to come join

2) MASSIVE EXP Bonus

3) Reduced level range to 4 to protect newbs

4) PVP Bug fixes

5) Nizzar taking 2 months off and Wilan taking over effectively killing Nihilum during this time period

6) The folding of Red Dawn with 30+ warm bodies looking for guilds to join

7) Azrael monopolizing the vast majority of raid targets


So what did you guys build from this? What new members did you recruit? Absolutely fucking nothing except tears and forum posts. Go kill urself.

[Elderan]

I found it funny that when they went on the Blue forums to say Red needed variance the blue response was asking why in the in world would anyone want variance. That it would kill any possible chance of casuals getting loot like it did on blue.

People who have experienced variance on blue know the truth of how bad it is.

[krazyGlue]

i wouldnt be surprised if nihilum got 95% of the mobs still WITH variance. but i can guarantee you there will be more pvp over tracking these mobs and zone control when the mob is in its window

[Dullah]

when azrael was on top. we still wanted variance. just because we knew it was the best thing for the server.


Ya, I'm sure you were all pining away privately in your own minds for an opportunity to lose mobs to an inferior force, cause you sure as fuck weren't doing it on the forums.

Who the fuck you think you're kidding?

[lite]

If 2 guilds are required to compete and only 1 guild shows up at the mob, which guild isn't competing, the guild that showed up to the mob or the guild that didn't?

If 2 guilds are recruiting to kill mobs and the competition and 1 guild recruits the players to compete and 1 doesn't who is failing to compete?

These are questions you need to ask yourself.

Let's say I am this awful player who can't lead anything. It's not about me, hundreds of people play or have played on this box. Why didn't someone else simply take over ? Oh wait... they did and they got shit stumped, checkraise rexx ect.

[Musetii]

I heard Wilan went around kicking AZ members asses IRL wearing only a custom T-shirt that he designed, effectively killing AZ by the time Nizzar came back...

[krazyGlue]

the only people that get greifed by variance are the players that log in 1x a week for 8 hours and kill every single raid mob for the week and log back off until next week. those players are useless to the box

[Elderan]

Love this guy. Azrael had fall into their lap the biggest breaks this server has ever had since it was released.

1) A coordinated GM Effort with relaunch that spammed Blue players to come join

2) MASSIVE EXP Bonus

3) Reduced level range to 4 to protect newbs

4) PVP Bug fixes

5) Nizzar taking 2 months off and Wilan taking over effectively killing Nihilum during this time period

6) The folding of Red Dawn with 30+ warm bodies looking for guilds to join

7) Azrael monopolizing the vast majority of raid targets


So what did you guys build from this? What new members did you recruit? Absolutely fucking nothing except tears and forum posts. Go kill urself.


Because anyone with half a brain knows what this forum quest is really about. It has nothing to do with making the sever better but trying to grief Nihilum members by making the game less fun. It may end up killing the server but they don't care. They feel like if they can't win in the game then just blow it up.

[krazyGlue]

Ya, I'm sure you were all pining away privately in your own minds for an opportunity to lose mobs to an inferior force, cause you sure as fuck weren't doing it on the forums.

Who the fuck you think you're kidding?

i believe vaporize has a convo with azrael before we stormed the peaks to kill PD in skyfire. talking about variance when we were on top and we all agreed that we wanted variance. for the health of the server , ( wish i took a SS )

[Elderan]

the only people that get greifed by variance are the players that log in 1x a week for 8 hours and kill every single raid mob for the week and log back off until next week. those players are useless to the box

Dumbest statement that has been proven wrong so many times. Nihilum averages 25-30 hours of raids a week. This doesn't include other camps and personal play time and if a sim repop happens.

People like Krazy just want to make the time investment so high that even the hardcore people quit.

[Sheriff]

Love this guy. Azrael had fall into their lap the biggest breaks this server has ever had since it was released.

1) A coordinated GM Effort with relaunch that spammed Blue players to come join

2) MASSIVE EXP Bonus

3) Reduced level range to 4 to protect newbs

4) PVP Bug fixes

5) Nizzar taking 2 months off and Wilan taking over effectively killing Nihilum during this time period

6) The folding of Red Dawn with 30+ warm bodies looking for guilds to join

7) Azrael monopolizing the vast majority of raid targets


So what did you guys build from this? What new members did you recruit? Absolutely fucking nothing except tears and forum posts. Go kill urself.

End of thread.

[Dullah]

Because anyone with half a brain knows what this forum quest is really about. It has nothing to do with making the sever better but trying to grief Nihilum members by making the game less fun. It may end up killing the server but they don't care. They feel like if they can't win in the game then just blow it up.

http://verkoren.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/some-men.jpeg

[mikemandella]

Whose fault is that really?

I'll give you a hint
Its your fault.

Dunno plug it into MQ2 and your macro.. see what comes up dawg!

[Cheesypoof]

when azrael was on top. we still wanted variance. just because we knew it was the best thing for the server.

Ya, I'm sure you were all pining away privately in your own minds for an opportunity to lose mobs to an inferior force, cause you sure as fuck weren't doing it on the forums.

Who the fuck you think you're kidding?

He did actually did make a post for variance even when Azrael was on top. You can go and check sorry i'm too lazy to find it.

[krazyGlue]

lets give variance a try for 60 days. thats 2 months? if shit goes down hill we go back to static spawns. if the pvp increases and pop grows . then it stays

[Mac Drettj]

variance practice happens every sim-repop and every ragefire

staff have more than enough evidence

[Elderan]

lets give variance a try for 60 days. thats 2 months? if shit goes down hill we go back to static spawns. if the pvp increases and pop grows . then it stays

Lets turn off pvp for 60 days. Thats 2 months?

Lets see what happens.

[Danien]

Arguing that is good for the server A does not necessarily exclude that B is good. While I'd agree with HB that his suggestions are equally or more important I believe variance would greatly improve (definitely not solve though) the current situation.

[krazyGlue]

Lets turn off pvp for 60 days. Thats 2 months?

Lets see what happens.

i bet you would love that

[Dullah]

He did actually did make a post for variance even when Azrael was on top. You can go and check sorry i'm too lazy to find it.

http://www.project1999.com/forums/search.php?searchid=3255453&pp=25

That would be the period of time between page 4 thru page 9.

Not there. In fact, the only mention made of variance was this little gem:

please for the love of god do NOT add variance. this box has low pop atm we all know this and by adding variance its only going to greif the current players. variance is only good on a highly populated box maybe if we see numbers 200+ again i say go for it. but until then dont shoot your self in the foot
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1427996&postcount=54

Thanks for playing.

[Sheriff]

http://www.project1999.com/forums/search.php?searchid=3255453&pp=25

That would be the period of time between page 4 thru page 9.

Not there. In fact, the only mention made of variance was this little gem:


http://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1427996&postcount=54

Thanks for playing.

gg

[Not_Kazowi]

Anyone can make a guild .. Are you saying I am the only one at fault ? I am pretty sure I am not the only one to create a guild on this server. Does that mean Rexx Heartbrand Cast and all others are at fault as well? Under your logic anyone that hasn't created a successful contesting guild is at fault, including yourself.

I didn't create heresy on this server

[derpcake]

Nihilum still raiding with sub 40 99% of the time. Couldn't even break 35 for hoshkar this week and only 29 for velious test raids.

Sounds like you'll be raiding with 20-30 a few months after the velious rush ends.

Server thriving.

[Mac Drettj]

Cast was a guild leader or something? Lite's retardation is spreading cant tell whats real and whats fantasea.

[Zalaerian]

Cast was never a guild leader on red.

Keto Gongshow and Lethdar had Holos GM tag at one point or another

[no chewie dont]

Who

[Cheesypoof]

http://www.project1999.com/forums/search.php?searchid=3255453&pp=25

That would be the period of time between page 4 thru page 9.

Not there. In fact, the only mention made of variance was this little gem:


http://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1427996&postcount=54

Thanks for playing.

Link broken on the first one.

Krazy said if pop over 200 in second, and pop is often over 200

not sure if srs. I will go back and look for it kinda busy atm.

[Dullah]

Link broken on the first one.

Krazy said if pop over 200 in second, and pop is often over 200

not sure if srs. I will go back and look for it kinda busy atm.

Pop has been peaking at 200 for the last 6 months. Before and after Azrael 22.0.

First link was his post history, page 4-9 being that period where they were winning and he was definitely anti-variance as would any guild that was actually winning on a pvp server.

EQ, especially EQ pvp, was designed to reward the better, more dedicated guilds. When your guild is the better guild, you don't ask developers to code in a way to take away the spoils of your victory.

[Bazia]

this server isnt fun because of the population not nihilum

the only way this server would be fun with the current shit population is if half the 55+ population decided to be martyrs and sacrifice the loot and security fast track of joining nihilum and atm only about 10% of the players are willing to do that

variance is a non factor tbh

[Vile]

new box coming soon

classic era pvp best , fresh bloods and new fun, this box is cursed by retards

whats the infos on this

[Cheesypoof]

http://www.project1999.com/forums/search.php?searchid=3255453&pp=25

That would be the period of time between page 4 thru page 9.

Not there. In fact, the only mention made of variance was this little gem:


http://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1427996&postcount=54

Thanks for playing.

While Azrael was on top:
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=143856

too much misinfo on these forums. thank god you can do research and prove peeps wrong

[Dullah]

While Azrael was on top:
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=143856

too much misinfo on these forums. thank god you can do research and prove peeps wrong

Unfortunately that was before they were on top.

At least double check before you boast about proving peeps wrong.

[Stasis01]

History has shown two things

1) Things won't change organically, meaning one guild taking all.

2) People have had a chance contesting at weird hour random repops, such as simulated repops taking Sev faster than response time, and when we beat them and I had a good Twainz quote saying Nizzar was at work and he was at this or that etc.

This is just propaganda to keep full control in 1 guilds hands the same old story on Red99, Nihilum just turn it into Azrael/Nihi drama.

I liked the huge emotional HB post tho, really shows his true colors between the lines.

[|3igHurb]

another Rant in Server Chat.

Derubaels Dead African Spirit, please come back and ban heartbrand in game along with jibekkn for their repeated ass raping of your ruling

[Stasis01]

Love this guy. Azrael had fall into their lap the biggest breaks this server has ever had since it was released.

1) A coordinated GM Effort with relaunch that spammed Blue players to come join

2) MASSIVE EXP Bonus

3) Reduced level range to 4 to protect newbs

4) PVP Bug fixes

5) Nizzar taking 2 months off and Wilan taking over effectively killing Nihilum during this time period

6) The folding of Red Dawn with 30+ warm bodies looking for guilds to join

7) Azrael monopolizing the vast majority of raid targets


So what did you guys build from this? What new members did you recruit? Absolutely fucking nothing except tears and forum posts. Go kill urself.

This guy doesn't sound pissed and like it's personal and I trust his opinion. /yawn

[Syft 2.0]

You'd be arguing for things that increase server pop, and hence increase the number of competing guilds. You'd be arguing for blue copies/transfers, PVP Fixes still not done since 2011, moderation of OOC and the forums which turn 95% of prospective players off to this server, GM enforcement of rules, actual gm events. Instead you're here bitching about Variance, something that killed competition on the blue server as the largest neckbeard guild scooped up 99% of all raid mobs.

Except for the pure logical fact that nothing you mentioned would increase server pop anywhere near as much as Perma banning all Nihilum player's(including yourself!)

Fuck bad words in OOC you are literally worse for RED than cock roaches eating the blade servers!

But I do agree if GM's did they're jobs they would have kicked your cheating worthless guild of shitty players to the curb years ago.

[iiNGloriouS]

I like reading posts made by the guy who has been banned on 6 different rogues and an SK all for MQing.

[Drakaris]

What Az thinks Variance is = Completely random spawns of Phara Dar for chances @ sniping crowns

What variance really is = 75% of mobs spawning @ 3am in the morning, confined to tight windows that only Nihilum knows about, while everyone else is sleeping

Heartbrand is a smart man... He's on the ball here...

[Drakaris]

Love this guy. Azrael had fall into their lap the biggest breaks this server has ever had since it was released.

1) A coordinated GM Effort with relaunch that spammed Blue players to come join

2) MASSIVE EXP Bonus

3) Reduced level range to 4 to protect newbs

4) PVP Bug fixes

5) Nizzar taking 2 months off and Wilan taking over effectively killing Nihilum during this time period

6) The folding of Red Dawn with 30+ warm bodies looking for guilds to join

7) Azrael monopolizing the vast majority of raid targets


So what did you guys build from this? What new members did you recruit? Absolutely fucking nothing except tears and forum posts. Go kill urself.

Amen, preaching to the converted!

[Drakaris]

Except for the pure logical fact that nothing you mentioned would increase server pop anywhere near as much as Perma banning all Nihilum player's(including yourself!)

Fuck bad words in OOC you are literally worse for RED than cock roaches eating the blade servers!

But I do agree if GM's did they're jobs they would have kicked your cheating worthless guild of shitty players to the curb years ago.

Says the guy who makes a forum post every time he fails to kill someone AND rants on about how bad they are for self-satisfaction.

Very credible poster right here!

[Smedy]

not sure what is worst, the fact that you guys havent given up on high end dead99 yet or the fact that heartbrand is voicing his opinion ONCE MORE and today it appears to be on nihilums side, i wonder what flag the jew will bear in the next coming months, perhaps then variance would benefit his selfish needs once more

fucking disgusting that jewsack is yeah, that baby aint gettin no care thats for sures ya feelers me

protip to hb: there's a history of your posts on these forums, anyone could sit and sift through how dumb you sound when you keep aruging and forum lawyering (terrible at it i might add) for whatever side your fighting for at this moment, just shut the fuck up, go care for your baby and file some tax reports

[Potus]

moderation of OOC and the forums which turn 95% of prospective players off to this server,

Please stop, this has never been true and is a lame urban legend that keeps being propagated.

I SAW A CURSE WORD IN OOC, IT SCARED AWAY FIVE HUNDRED OF MY FRIENDS.

[R Flair]

fucking disgusting that jewsack is yeah, that baby aint gettin no care thats for sures ya feelers me

protip to hb: there's a history of your posts on these forums, anyone could sit and sift through how dumb you sound when you keep aruging and forum lawyering (terrible at it i might add) for whatever side your fighting for at this moment, just shut the fuck up, go care for your baby and file some tax reports

rl attacks sound rustled like he hit u right in the feelers for sho

[Bazia]

Pop is low because joining an open world pvp mmo is just not very fun when everyone else is geared and leveled 4x over already

Not the forums fault

[Smedy]

turns out recruiting every warm body available wasn't a good idea after all, perhaps you can make your own thursday fight nights to get some pvp, tibbers wanted to host one i heard

[R Flair]

dont have enuf fingers to count all the peoples ive slain in the last week

[Tradesonred]

Nazi swede rages and cant understand why his guild isnt successful

Maybe make some more videos making fun of handicapped people, or call people ******s, that should raise Azrael's PR profile

[Syft 2.0]

Says the guy who makes a forum post every time he fails to kill someone AND rants on about how bad they are for self-satisfaction.

Very credible poster right here!

Your a horrible player and terrible at PVP! Nothing you post will change this fact!

You truly are awful! When they lowered the lvl limit to 4 lvls all hopes you ever had of getting a solo kill went out the window!

P.S. If I played as badly as you I'd sit in the corner and stfu, hoping no one notices me. Why throw a spotlight on a 2 inch cock, no one wants to see that shit! Just trying to help you out brah! Because nothing clever you say on the forums will erase the embarrassing spectacle that is you in PvP!

[Tradesonred]

You're awful, YOU'RE

fuckin 'merica jesus

[Tradesonred]

Why throw a spotlight on a 2 inch cock, no one wants to see that shit!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bBb-c6IpEE

[Syft 2.0]

WTF is anyone even bothering to argue with Nihilum about Variance!

These are the guys who argued for Instant Gate pots! LMFAO

Of course if it's good for the server Nihilum is against it.

[heartbrand]

Please stop, this has never been true and is a lame urban legend that keeps being propagated.

I SAW A CURSE WORD IN OOC, IT SCARED AWAY FIVE HUNDRED OF MY FRIENDS.

Not an urban legend at all. I saw many newbies in my time in red dawn who would ask people in guild chat if ooc was always like this, etc., and who said this didn't seem like somewhere they wanted to play. Inb4 pvp means you need to be a sociopath.

[mostbitter]

Pop is low because joining an open world pvp mmo is just not very fun when everyone else is geared and leveled 4x over already

Not the forums fault

maybe u shouldn't have quit and rmt'd every character you have played since the server opened?

[Not_Kazowi]

not sure what is worst, the fact that you guys havent given up on high end dead99 yet or the fact that heartbrand is voicing his opinion ONCE MORE and today it appears to be on nihilums side, i wonder what flag the jew will bear in the next coming months, perhaps then variance would benefit his selfish needs once more

fucking disgusting that jewsack is yeah, that baby aint gettin no care thats for sures ya feelers me

protip to hb: there's a history of your posts on these forums, anyone could sit and sift through how dumb you sound when you keep aruging and forum lawyering (terrible at it i might add) for whatever side your fighting for at this moment, just shut the fuck up, go care for your baby and file some tax reports

Yikes smedy rustled on FQ by big HB

[Cheesypoof]

Unfortunately that was before they were on top.

At least double check before you boast about proving peeps wrong.



D3 release: 3/25/14
Nihilum starts loosing with Nizzar playing D3

Willian train: 4/3/14 Nihilum officially in the shitter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZOY29Yh1SA&feature=youtu.be

Lite post: 4/12/2014 Pro Variance
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=147027

Please implement it .... We feel just as strongly about it now that we are getting every spawn, as we did back when we were struggling to contest. We've been on both sides of the fence, static spawns kill pvp and restrict it to a tiny window of time.

yes i agree, variance will save the server.

Mitic your own guild member from blue admitting that variance will save the server.

I'm not sure when the official Azrael started kicking the ass out of Nihilum date was, but Lite's post for pro variance was during this time.

[Kergan]

Congrats!

Doesn't change the fact that variance sucks, already was shot down by staff and would make people quit the server.

[Kergan]

It is the way of the FQ to post your opinion as a fact.

And find your own link man, I'm not digging through hundreds of posts to find where they said they aren't doing variance.

[Clark]

Wipe it clean.

[Musetii]

Wipe it clean.

Wipe Committee 2014 needed.

[Bazia]

maybe u shouldn't have quit and rmt'd every character you have played since the server opened?

Never sold shit for real cash, I actually have an income and transferring 100s of hours into 10's of dollars is retarded

[Bazia]

and I actually have a couple insanely well geared toons here atm but it's just the same shit, been resistancing for too long seen how the story ends 2 many times

[Kergan]

So get an app in come see what it is like being on top.

[R Flair]

and I actually have a couple insanely well geared toons here atm but it's just the same shit, been resistancing for too long seen how the story ends 2 many times

apparently it ends in variance posts, unless of course ur completely autistic like Lite who requests it after winning a few fights while his guild looks on with disbelief begging no

or maybe he knew in the back of his mind shit wouldnt last

[Clark]

new box coming soon

classic era pvp best , fresh bloods and new fun, this box is cursed by retards

[Kergan]

He knew for 100% fact it wasn't going to last.

To be fair though, he might actually believe variance will help. But that is because he is moran.