Rip Heresy - Red Dawn - Force and others. Variance could have saved you

[lite]

These guilds went from creation into instantly getting corpse camped in the planes, the new system gives new guilds practically no chance.

With variance we could have so many guilds rolling around and players !. let us take a moment to remember those that never had a chance due to a shitty system that promotes zerg to win.

[Mac Drettj]

Heresy had no plans to be a number 2 or a number 1 guild

we just had fun exping and pvping together

carry on being mad and bad and crying about losing

[lite]

Heresy had no plans to be a number 2 or a number 1 guild

we just had fun exping and pvping together

carry on being mad and bad and crying about losing

sure .... point is, guilds immidiately got griefed and had 0 chance of building.

Rexx: most of the nihilum guys are fucking losers who link gear 8/4/2013 8:37:37 PM

Rexx: heresy been doing it big in emu eq pvp since 07

Rexx: Heresy on the rise 8/4/2013 8:17:11 PM

Rexx: give it time, were getting going over here 8/4/2013 8:17:08 PM

Rexx: better get on these coattails to success while you can 8/5/2013 2:18:28 AM

Rexx: all the way through velious son 8/5/2013 2:18:26 AM

Rexx: im going eq hard core mode 8/5/2013 2:18:20 AM

Rexx: no im not quitting in septmeber 8/5/2013 2:18:14 AM

Rexx: tarran why dont you let me do my thing, which is lead a guild to success and victory over and over again 8/5/2013 2:26:56 AM

Rexx: classic or not, heresy on the train to success. classic bros welcome to hop on board 8/5/2013 2:23:06 AM

Rexx: dude this nizzar guys life is going to come to a screetching halt the day the server ends. I mean, he may not commit suicide or anything but hes in for a huge reality check 8/7/2013 5:35:12 PM

Rexx: HPT sell out 8/7/2013 7:50:05 PM

Rexx: oh sorry we didnt sit there and let your group of 60s kill us while were grinding level 53 8/7/2013 10:23:10 PM

Rexx: nizzar idea of pvp is group of 60s for 3 or 4 52 and 53s 8/8/2013 12:19:58 AM

Rexx: this isnt love to hate, its just youre a faggot hate 8/8/2013 12:34:05 AM

Rexx: but bro, i think you may just be a faggot 8/8/2013 12:33:54 AM

Rexx: nizzar, im big rexx so i know all about hate 8/8/2013 12:33:49 AM

Rexx: yeah well you and your guild are horrid pvpers 8/8/2013 12:38:13 AM

Rexx: so you wont have to worry about me 8/8/2013 12:36:48 AM

Rexx: nizzar dont worry pal, im leaving for russia on sunday for two weeks 8/8/2013 12:36:43 AM

Rexx: where do you live, do you have a girlfriend? 8/8/2013 12:35:49 AM

Rexx: nizzar why dont you elaborate about your RL bro, what do you do for a living? 8/8/2013 12:35:42 AM

Rexx: hey nizzar, i dont derrive my self worth t hrough an emulated everquest server 8/8/2013 12:35:05 AM

Rexx: nizzar would your life come to an end if the server was gone tomorrow morning 8/8/2013 1:00:22 AM

Rexx: dude plays eq 18 hours a day and didnt even win botb 8/8/2013 1:49:15 AM

Rexx: nizzar has best gear as a monk right? and he lost botb 8/8/2013 1:49:00 AM

Rexx: is taking his followers to the promise land 8/9/2013 6:42:28 PM

Rexx: nizzar isnt online, hes at sams club picking up a crate of hot pockets 8/28/2013 1:23:16 PM

Rexx: even on VZTZ in heresy when we were top dogs, we never did shit like this, we wanted to encourage growth and competition, i just dont get it 8/29/2013 10:26:19 PM

Rexx: i just dont understand why you guys try to grief to this extent, i mean its pathetic at this point. you guys are basically screaming you want no competition 8/29/2013 10:24:40 PM

Rexx: i dont understand you guys, do you want no one to play ont he server? 8/29/2013 10:20:46 PM

Rexx: not 13 v 2 nakeds at their binds 8/29/2013 10:28:42 PM

Rexx: i would rather 30v 30 guild fight over sebilis or plane of fear 8/29/2013 10:28:27 PM

Rexx: just give these neck beards their own server to fucking jack off to jesus christ 8/31/2013 10:31:28 PM

Rexx: nizzars life is such shit he has to MAKE SURE he wins in eq 8/31/2013 10:54:45 PM

Rexx: fuckign drain on society 8/31/2013 10:54:27 PM

Rexx: fuck yeah i want to be like nizzar when igrow up, some fucking loser that plays eq 20 hours a day. get a job you fucking low life 8/31/2013 10:54:06 PM

Rexx: tune killing level 51s, shocker 9/1/2013 7:31:12 PM

Rexx: yeah? no girls want to date someone whos headline is "im a 60 bard in nihilum" 9/2/2013 9:06:19 PM

Rexx: hey guys we need to kill this dragon quick, my mom needs to use the computer to check her match.com profile 9/2/2013 9:05:31 PM

Rexx: nihilum - its time to pvp the dragon 9/2/2013 9:04:00 PM

Rexx: azrael looks cool and im glad things are going well 10/5/2013 11:22:14 AM

[Kergan]

let us take a moment to remember those that never had a chance due to Everquest being designed around zerging to win. I should play a different game since I don't like it.

FTFY

[Not_Kazowi]

Wow original quote I haven't seen that one before.


Variance wouldn't have saved heresy. PNP may have extended the life of it but I have too much going on in my life to even attempt to lead a guild.

[lite]

me and my boys have basically every item we could want. I am just trying to look out for new comers who aren't comfortable with going easy mode.

[Not_Kazowi]

me and my boys have basically every item we could want. I am just trying to look out for new comers who aren't comfortable with going easy mode.

New players that you trade gank and steal 9k plat?

Or new players that you and afflict dropped 50 imps on in solb a couple days ago?

You're about as slimy as it gets bro

[Kergan]

Pretty sure the newcomers are enjoying slaying some dragons with the simulated repops. Doubt they'd be up for massive poopsocking, they'd probably quit. Variance horrible for casuals, bad for the server population.

[Mac Drettj]

Heresy was not griefed, Nihilum killed us once after a PvE wipe in Hate and they left. PVP SERVER OMGAWD. Luckily we are all veterans and didn't create 300 variance threads as a result.

Rexx is a great guy, but his play time at that time was an hour or few a day if he was lucky. He was Guild Leader by title only.

Quoting him just proves your an obsessive faggot who cant grasp EQ PVP.

[Mac Drettj]

PvPing with veterans like Silik10, Dacuk, Ames, Lewis, Basiah, Grimtoad, and Chopper was a blast. We used to yell GET IN THE VAN! as we sniped Nihilum members with our undergeared/underleveled/outnumbered crew. It was so fun, calm and organized, that the rookies we had with us followed along extraordinarily and followed directions eggcelently.

Would do again. Would also laugh at people who ask for blue rule sets as a result of losing PvP again.

[lite]

tldr, seems like a lot of excuses. I think heresy or any guild cud do ok with variance, but it's my word against some people that just insta joined nilly.

[Not_Kazowi]

Just too many people making this GAME into some sort of reality blood sport. Were playing emulated Everquest here folks, not reindeer games.

If you aren't having fun then log off and play another game.

I understand changing things like a PNP or exp rate but incessant crying for variance (will change nothing) is just retarded.

[Mac Drettj]

tldr, seems like a lot of excuses. I think heresy or any guild cud do ok with variance.

0 excuses actually

ironic coming from you who writes a new excuse thread 5 times a day

why dont you just pull the tampon out of your snatch and learn to play everquest the way it was meant to be played

you and jib are the biggest cry babies on this box, embarassing

[Jib]

variance is the only thing that can save p99red atm. I will keep praying for it.

[lite]

0 excuses actually

ironic coming from you who writes a new excuse thread 5 times a day

why dont you just pull the tampon out of your snatch and learn to play everquest the way it was meant to be played

you and jib are the biggest cry babies on this box, embarassing

think i learned to play eq just fine. me and my boys decked out better than you nut riders... you guys just got corpse camped by nilly. idk, Variance would have at least bought you a month or 2.

[mostbitter]

I am loving how Lite seems to have conveniently forgotten his role in griefing force from the server

[lite]

I am loving how Lite seems to have conveniently forgotten his role in griefing force from the server

pretty sure I blamed server for guilds dying, not nilly. I've always been pro nilly play style, just encourage a server that can support something other than neck beard mode only.

[Mac Drettj]

think i learned to play eq just fine. me and my boys decked out better than you nut riders... you guys just got corpse camped by nilly. idk, Variance would have at least bought you a month or 2.

never corpse camped

and maybe gearing you and your 4 friends is the cause of your guilds downfall?

food for thought when creating your 29th guild

thanks for clearing the way to trak last night and pulling hammer out mid pvp

[lite]

never corpse camped

and maybe gearing you and your 4 friends is the cause of your guilds downfall?

food for thought when creating your 29th guild

thanks for clearing the way to trak last night and pulling hammer out mid pvp

pretty sure rexx made retarded amount of forum posts about heresy getting corpse camped in Hate and Fear like tehre was no tomorrow.

4 friends ? I guess 4 azrael is all it took to sit on Nihilum's corpses on numerous occasions. Until mass recruit zerging and super batphoning goes out of course. then nilly "wins"

[Elderan]

Heresy - Forced to ally with Azrael from constant Azrael griefing
Red Dawn - Forced to ally with Azrael from constant Azrael griefing
Force - Forced to ally with Azrael from constant Azrael griefing

All dead.. Maybe don't ally with Azrael ?

[lite]

Heresy - Forced to ally with Azrael from constant Azrael griefing
Red Dawn - Forced to ally with Azrael from constant Azrael griefing
Force - Forced to ally with Azrael from constant Azrael griefing

All dead.. Maybe don't ally with Azrael ?

0 variance server = guilds get griefed = they have to ally with whoever they can out of desperation... But ok cool, seems like u found the answer to success. Inc Elderan's guild ?

again it's not nilly or azrael problem, it's a server problem.

[Mac Drettj]

azrael couldnt even figure out how to form a 6 man group until Dentist held your hands and taught you how to play

Dentist carried you and your ragtag bunch of braindead pve'ers through all of your first raid mob kills. After Dentist dissapeared, Azrael dissapeared. The only time youve ever gotten anything on this server it was uncontested sniping, or beating on low lvl app recruits (which you always blame nilly for doing).

Dont get history confused. Your a terrible guild leader, make terrible calls, and are obnoxious and needy for attention as seen by your constant tears and telling people to talk to you in all caps in OOC.

[lite]

tldr, sorry your guild lasted a whole month. Good luck on Retti and Elderan guild. Variance could have saved you.

[Mac Drettj]

feels good to know you cry yourself to sleep over norrath being unfair

[derpcake]

needy for attention

Posts Per Day: 23.37

A+

[Cheesypoof]

Posts Per Day: 23.37

A+

You know his wife dont give him any attention. He has to get it somewhere.

[HippoNipple]

variance is the only thing that can save p99red atm. I will keep praying for it.

I would say having 50% of the population this server had at peak times logging in on a daily basis is pretty good compared to any other game adding no new content in 2 years.

How much of a population drop do new mmos see as a percentage just within 2 months now?

Not to mention the game is already 15 years old now.

[Not_Kazowi]

pretty sure rexx made retarded amount of forum posts about heresy getting corpse camped in Hate and Fear like tehre was no tomorrow.

4 friends ? I guess 4 azrael is all it took to sit on Nihilum's corpses on numerous occasions. Until mass recruit zerging and super batphoning goes out of course. then nilly "wins"

0 threads ever made by me crying about anything. Make up more bullshit.

Funny thing is most of these guilds get destroyed by you. Even in heresy I remember you started playing again and your butt buddies bailed and recruited players from Heresy.

You've proven you can't do it now quite a few times. Officer? Maybe. You're not a bad player but you're kind of a cancer bro, just sayin'

[Mac Drettj]

Posts Per Day: 23.37

A+

ya 90% images and 1 liners while working very time consuming and hard

[Mac Drettj]

0 threads ever made by me crying about anything. Make up more bullshit.

Funny thing is most of these guilds get destroyed by you. Even in heresy I remember you started playing again and your butt buddies bailed and recruited players from Heresy.

You've proven you can't do it now quite a few times. Officer? Maybe. You're not a bad player but you're kind of a cancer bro, just sayin'

Agatha was begging to let Lite in heresy

I said no, never, if he wanted in he was a warm body being added to teamspeak global mute

didnt need some first time everquester telling people to run into a yeti cave

[Stasis01]

For once I agree with Retti - not even Variance would have helped Heresy, that was just a guild of the only non Nihi scrubs on the box - that got griefed hard in planar trash, they accomplished nothing and really were nothing but a loud mouth bunch of noobs from vztz.

Force on the other hand, Nihi purposely griefed to stay away from Azrael (I was part of it). But they ultimately learned they couldn't compete when they tried to do Inny, and had to go vs Nihi like 50 vs 25 and we just rolled them over.

Brobb said that was when they had to ally with Azrael, to have a chance - still wasn't enough.

[Stasis01]

PS if Force didn't ally with Azrael, nothing would have changed, they wouldn't be able to take a single raid target- ever.

[lite]

PS if Force didn't ally with Azrael, nothing would have changed, they wouldn't be able to take a single raid target- ever.

not without variance, nope

[Mac Drettj]

variance happened last night, was fun

test results: nihi 100%, hokubadzreal 0%

variance is the solution

more loot for nihi is the solution

lite crying about server being unfair is the solution

[mostbitter]

i aint gonna lie i had a great time in azrael when we griefed force from the server

[derpcake]

ya 90% images and 1 liners while working very time consuming and hard

Yea, I've never met someone on P99 that wasn't posting / playing from work.

I start a new jerb on monday, while I got free internet access, I'm not going to spend it here.

Guess fortune 500 managers have more time / less broad field of interests though.

Today, 11:10 AM
Today, 10:59 AM
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Today, 10:50 AM
Today, 10:49 AM
Today, 10:42 AM
Today, 10:35 AM
Today, 10:34 AM
Today, 10:29 AM
Today, 10:26 AM
Today, 10:12 AM

11 posts in about 1 hour, biggest interval 14 minutes.

Def at work.

[Andis]

I am loving how Lite seems to have conveniently forgotten his role in griefing force from the server

Fair Fighters griefed Force off the server

Brobb is a faggot lol and I loved every minute of slaying his dumb ass

[lite]

who ?

[Stasis01]

variance happened last night, was fun

test results: nihi 100%, hokubadzreal 0%

variance is the solution

more loot for nihi is the solution

lite crying about server being unfair is the solution

Hokuten will take time to grow - I saw they tried to take Trak, where the server neckbeards prevented it.

Pras Hokuten good for trying.

[Andis]

it's all up to jibeknn now, I hope he has what it takes

if you're gonna do it, do it right jibeknn

dont let other morons skew you differently

and DONT do what heartbrand did lolololol

[Stasis01]

PS how do you guys live with yourselves, if I was that much of a control freak little bitch I'd be so ashamed.

Picking on Hokuten trying to take a Trak - then talking massive shit? Fucking clown show red99 as per usual.

1) The Community.


Rexx: even on VZTZ in heresy when we were top dogs, we never did shit like this, we wanted to encourage growth and competition, i just dont get it 8/29/2013 10:26:19 PM

[Mac Drettj]

Yea, I've never met someone on P99 that wasn't posting / playing from work.

I start a new jerb on monday, while I got free internet access, I'm not going to spend it here.

Guess fortune 500 managers have more time / less broad field of interests though.

Today, 11:10 AM
Today, 10:59 AM
Today, 10:58 AM
Today, 10:50 AM
Today, 10:49 AM
Today, 10:42 AM
Today, 10:35 AM
Today, 10:34 AM
Today, 10:29 AM
Today, 10:26 AM
Today, 10:12 AM

11 posts in about 1 hour, biggest interval 14 minutes.

Def at work.

thank god for my education, he grants me multiple monitors and laptops

[Not_Kazowi]

and DONT do what heartbrand did lolololol

Yes, don't let lite and the other retards in your guild or they will go Benedict Arnold on your ass and fracture the guild.

[Mac Drettj]

Picking on Hokuten trying to take a Trak - then talking massive shit? Fucking clown show red99 as per usual.



you mean killing novus and the rest of the faggots who cant stop spamming their reasons for being mad?

whens the next one, would love to go grief that too

Novus w OT hammer means he can never makes another comment about Checkraise and his Truncheon of Doom

u feelers?

[heartbrand]

Man if only we had Variance, red dawn could have logged on our non existent trackers and rang that oh so successful bat phone to get 13 warriors of light on @ 3am to compete.

[Kergan]

PS how do you guys live with yourselves, if I was that much of a control freak little bitch I'd be so ashamed.

Picking on Hokuten trying to take a Trak - then talking massive shit? Fucking clown show red99 as per usual.

1) The Community.


Rexx: even on VZTZ in heresy when we were top dogs, we never did shit like this, we wanted to encourage growth and competition, i just dont get it 8/29/2013 10:26:19 PM

I'd also like to add that I'd feel bad for Hokuten/disappointed in Nihilum if it wasn't for the fact that the recruitment thread basically declares war on Nihilum. Would fully expect my guild to get shit on if I did that.

[Stasis01]

That's what happens when you say what I was saying to the people who run the place.

Won't repeat it since I was probably near ban.

[Stasis01]

Man if only we had Variance, red dawn could have logged on our non existent trackers and rang that oh so successful bat phone to get 13 warriors of light on @ 3am to compete.

There would be shit to do for all 7 days with timers split up, rather than 1 day of easy farming.

And there would be more opportunities for non Nihi to contest / snipe / and most likely get shit on lvling.

[Kergan]

That's what happens when you say what I was saying to the people who run the place.

Won't repeat it since I was probably near ban.

http://media.giphy.com/media/14oD3YHfAivGPm/giphy.gif

[Stasis01]

I thought you were doing my Derubael quotes but it was the Hokuten one my bad.

[Sweetbaby Jesus]

Jib declared war on us the day he made hokuten...Why would we give him anything?

[Kergan]

I thought you were doing my Derubael quotes but it was the Hokuten one my bad.

Np dude been posting both a lot, easy mistake.

[heartbrand]

There would be shit to do for all 7 days with timers split up, rather than 1 day of easy farming.

And there would be more opportunities for non Nihi to contest / snipe / and most likely get shit on lvling.

ya lots of shit to do like be locked out of fear and hate for gear because nilly will guard it for possible pop in window, get shit on 24/7, etc. etc. sounds like a gr8 mechanic for a newer progressing guild.

[lite]

ya lots of shit to do like be locked out of fear and hate for gear because nilly will guard it for possible pop in window, get shit on 24/7, etc. etc. sounds like a gr8 mechanic for a newer progressing guild.

i thought all they would have is 1 tracker which wud instant pop in and out ? lol and thus there'd be noone for azrael to skrimish during pop windows... oh man lol
also if that guild is focued on that spot b/c of a window, wudnt that take their focus off of alternative places u guys can go to ?

Like whiel Red Dawn and Heresy were getting chain shit on in hate and fear, and being corpse camped for 5 hours + by nilly ....if a mobs were due elsewhere wouldn't that favor you ? they could afford to CC you for days since there's nothing else to be focused on. They knew when to meet up 50 strong for free pixels every week. All other 165 hours were free to grief.

[Not_Kazowi]

i thought all they would have is 1 tracker which wud instant pop in and out ? lol and thus there'd be noone for azrael to skrimish during pop windows... oh man lol
also if that guild is focued on that spot b/c of a window, wudnt that take their focus off of alternative places u guys can go to ?

Like whiel Red Dawn and Heresy were getting chain shit on in hate and fear, and being corpse camped for 5 hours + by nilly ....if a mobs were due elsewhere wouldn't that favor you ? they could afford to CC you for days since there's nothing else to be focused on when all 50 know when to meet up for free zerg pixels

Hard to read because of various repetitive spelling and grammatical errors

[lite]

I was a big deal on EZTZ Nizzar, I make successful guilds, it's what i do !
I know all about hate !

[Not_Kazowi]

I'm sorry you're upset about my legendary history set in stone.

[lite]

I'm sorry you're upset about my legendary history set in stone.

http://i.imgur.com/GcgWMVV.gif

[Stasis01]

ya lots of shit to do like be locked out of fear and hate for gear because nilly will guard it for possible pop in window, get shit on 24/7, etc. etc. sounds like a gr8 mechanic for a newer progressing guild.

It'd be 100x better for a guild to level in the shadows, planar trash garbage is mainly irrelevant, and have a chance to PVP for raid mob windows at irregular times.

You've said all this before just refer to your previous position for what I agree with.

[Rellapse40]

I'm sorry you're upset about my legendary history set in stone.

lol

orders a wife from a catalog

talks shit about a guild

then joins them

vlassic signz of a fat pussy

[Not_Kazowi]

Lite using same gif he always uses.

Rellapse using same insults he always uses.

Same people crying over elf adventures emulation.

FQ getting stale

[Edgat]

These guilds went from creation into instantly getting corpse camped in the planes, the new system gives new guilds practically no chance.

With variance we could have so many guilds rolling around and players !. let us take a moment to remember those that never had a chance due to a shitty system that promotes zerg to win.

Wait wait....wait

so if you think the top guild on the server has to keep people in every zone, see "camped in the planes" above that the new guilds would ever get to raid planes without big brother coming in and stomping their guts in?

[Brynnag]

a fat pussy

mmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmm

[Awwalike]

don't remember heresy existing on this box

[Rellapse40]

Nihilum member texting a female

http://i.imgur.com/qWGDse2.jpg

[Awwalike]

"i want you to fuck me till i beg"



what she gon beg for

[Brynnag]

"i want you to fuck me till i beg"



what she gon beg for

Him to stop, or let her out of the basement.

[Not_Kazowi]

don't remember heresy existing on this box

Knuckle and crew made heresy here for nostalgia reasons and it pretty much was just a hang out guild for a couple months until I quit/other more serious guilds formed.

[Stasis01]

compulsive liar

Someone living in a fantasy world of their own creation. Generally lies to either make themselves look 'cool' or to become more popular.

Compulsive liars also lie to gain the upper-hand in arguments or confrontations and to provoke sympathy from their peers.

[Not_Kazowi]

Cry Baby -

a person, especially a child, who cries readily for very little reason.

a person who complains too much, usually in a whining manner.

[derpcake]

thank god for my education, he grants me multiple monitors and laptops

As a fellow billionaire and CEO, I totally understand.

Driving around in a lambo to screw models gets tedious and costs a lot of energy. Pixels bring some relief from the Tony Stark lives we are forced to live.

I too aim to make 20 posts a day to improve my life and overall sense of well-being.

Any energy drink recommendations? I also need a bag to carry my 3 work laptops and their separate monitors. Did you get yours through Alienware?

[Cheesypoof]

Kergan doesn't seem to be trying hard lately. It's like his heart aint in FQ anymore.

[Jib]

Kergan doesn't seem to be trying hard lately. It's like his heart aint in FQ anymore.

its hard when he knows everything i say is right, right kergy?

[derpcake]

Kergan doesn't seem to be trying hard lately. It's like his heart aint in FQ anymore.

He was here when the pop was 20-30, he'll be here when the pop is 1!

Hardcore 4 life.

[Cheesypoof]

http://i.imgur.com/TKegKmw.jpg

Energy drink of the resistance

[derpcake]

Looks fresh and like it would be popular with young health-conscious idealists.

[Not Salem]

lite great guild leader not a single person on this server other then him or nizzar could of got me epic and crown of rile I'm glad to say it wasn't nizzar who did. Azrael A+ guild

[Not_Kazowi]

lite great guild leader not a single person on this server other then him or nizzar could of got me epic and crown of rile I'm glad to say it wasn't nizzar who did. Azrael A+ guild

Yeah how many people can say that? Grats to you but a guild is a group of people not just me myself and I

Stay classy

[Not Salem]

CLASSY

[MC Epic]

Yeah how many people can say that? Grats to you but a guild is a group of people not just me myself and I

Stay classy

I can say it.

Lite is a great guild leader and ultimate broskie.

Ultimately, that makes him #1 target for the propaganda machine which is Nihilum; and I just roll my eyes at the negative and foundless comments on these forums.

[heartbrand]

Oraculus same guy who turned his back on Founding Fathers for blue99.

[MC Epic]

Eh, more lies from the King of Lies.

[heartbrand]

Saw you an awful lot in Plane of Hate in classic for that shaman gear, never saw you again when the going got tough with Nilly and you were etched out u feel?

[MC Epic]

Yea cause that's when I decided the guild needed another bard, so I started Mesochrist. You may recall we had a single bard back then :)

At that time, I had a 57 bard on blue. I still have a 57 bard on blue.

HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND!

[MC Epic]

P.S. we had like 6 or 7 shamans at that time also.

[heartbrand]

Interesting, as I don't remember a Mesochrist in Founding Fathers in classic. Did see a lot of you on Blue99 tho.

[Colgate]

ya but wut were u doin on blue99 hb??

[MC Epic]

You're either lying to troll, or sorely mistaken HB.

There's no way you can name my blue bard. I haven't played blue since red launched (except maybe to test a bard quest while building meso), and I haven't participated in any cross-server trades or anything.

And you don't remember Meso in FF - that's correct as he was never tagged. FF reformed to RD before Meso was even close to a taggable level, and we all know what happened to RD v.1.

[Clark]

me and my boys have basically every item we could want. I am just trying to look out for new comers who aren't comfortable with going easy mode.

[Tradesonred]

tldr, seems like a lot of excuses. I think heresy or any guild cud do ok with variance, but it's my word against some people that just insta joined nilly.

Your word isnt shit it seems, red dawn folded because of the xp nerf, you trying to dress that up as variance related shows how much we can trust your words vato.

[Tradesonred]

For the record i think variance is a good idea, just think Lite is being a baby about not keeping that shit in one thread.

I persisted for a long time on xp loss in pvp but i never was that annoying like making a thread every 2 days about it

[R Flair]

These guilds went from creation into instantly getting corpse camped in the planes, the new system gives new guilds practically no chance.

With variance we could have so many guilds rolling around and players !. let us take a moment to remember those that never had a chance due to a shitty system that promotes zerg to win.

Not that it matters, but the reasons I "supported" variance at the time no longer apply. The server pop was half, Nihilum was raiding with fewer numbers, sim repops didn't exist, and Nihilum members were threatening to quit over it.

It was a way to grief Nihilum into quitting / giving up, and thus strengthen my own guild.

Aka it was a selfish argument not based on lasting server health, but based on momentary gain for my own guild.

I was also building my guild to be a poopsocking pve guild who could stand to benefit / exploit variance as opposed to a small crew of pvpers who would get wrecked by variance's requirement that you zerg [see: blue]. Thanks!

The only honest post by someone who was pro-variance that ever existed on this forum

[Cheesypoof]

R flair confirmed retard

[Kergan]

R flair confirmed retard

But Lite isn't a retard for posting the HB variance screenshot about 500 times in the last two weeks?

lols

[Eslade]

But Lite isn't a retard for posting the HB variance screenshot about 500 times in the last two weeks?

lols

Difference is that lite types something different every time, flair has been copy pasting the same shit that I have to scroll past.

Still confirmed retard.

[mostbitter]

lite great guild leader not a single person on this server other then him or nizzar could of got me epic and crown of rile I'm glad to say it wasn't nizzar who did. Azrael A+ guild

I was actually trying to trade the fungis lite and powered stole from me for your epic MQ. Oh well.


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I am interested in working out a deal for Salem's SK epic MQ.

I am trying to entice a portion of Azrael to defect and this would ensure Salem's cooperation as he is already on the brink and only swayed by lust of his shadow knight epic. I do not possess large amounts of platinum but I have a lot of high end droppables that I would be willing to part with. I may also be able to gather a fair amount of platinum.

[Stasis01]

The only honest post by someone who was pro-variance that ever existed on this forum

Since I am basically a lawyer from all the Law and Order I've watched I know that you cannot trust a flip floppen snitch who is receiving a deal from the crown for his testimony.

HB is the most incredible person on the forums, you can only try to take his logic at face value and assess it at that, if you look any deeper it's always selfish motives no matter which side he argues or plays for. Aka it's going hard on Nizzar's dick for redemption and Velious loot because there's a good possibility Tune/Nizzar are just using him and laughing at him.

[Kergan]

Since I am basically a lawyer from all the Law and Order I've watched I know that you cannot trust a flip floppen snitch who is receiving a deal from the crown for his testimony.

HB is the most incredible person on the forums, you can only try to take his logic at face value and assess it at that, if you look any deeper it's always selfish motives no matter which side he argues or plays for. Aka it's going hard on Nizzar's dick for redemption and Velious loot because there's a good possibility Tune/Nizzar are just using him and laughing at him.

Yeah but what you're saying it just supporting what R Flair posted, that HBs pro variance post was self serving and had nothing to do with server health.

[Not_Kazowi]

Since I am basically a lawyer from all the Law and Order I've watched I know that you cannot trust a flip floppen snitch who is receiving a deal from the crown for his testimony.

HB is the most incredible person on the forums, you can only try to take his logic at face value and assess it at that, if you look any deeper it's always selfish motives no matter which side he argues or plays for. Aka it's going hard on Nizzar's dick for redemption and Velious loot because there's a good possibility Tune/Nizzar are just using him and laughing at him.

You flip flopped. You also take this game too serious

Enjoy the weekend bros

[Syft 2.0]

Pretty sure the newcomers are enjoying slaying some dragons with the simulated repops. Doubt they'd be up for massive poopsocking, they'd probably quit. Variance horrible for casuals, bad for the server population.

Nope your right new players would rather not be able to raid welfare gear in fear and hate , because of 30 neckbeards in VP gear.

Seriously if Nihilum is the best at large scale PVP as they claim, then how come they are so scared of newbies gearing up?

ohhh that's right because you believe pvp is 90% gear lmfao, guess that's why atleast 2 vp geared Nihilum plug from my lowbie wiz in trash daily.

http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Shit+just+got+real_5c341c_3540543.jpg

[Stasis01]

Yeah but what you're saying it just supporting what R Flair posted, that HBs pro variance post was self serving and had nothing to do with server health.

Self serving helping a competing guild like RD, yep.

[Stasis01]

Right now it's far too easy for Nihi.

[Kergan]

It's easy because Nihilum built the best guild. Everyone started here on equal footing. You can't punish someone for winning, that's just stupid.

[Kergan]

Self serving helping a competing guild like RD, yep.

Stasis, the problem with making it the entire point of your R99 existence to snuff out Nihilum is that you aren't changing anything. Even if Nihilum was disbanded and every member banned tomorrow, within a month another guild would take its place.

It's EverQuest bro. It's the way this game works, and it is the way it always has worked. There are plenty of other choices for servers to play on that don't have a goal of duplicating the classic EQ experience - which not only encourages but basically requires a big dominant uberguild.

Maybe you and your crew should try one of those out.

[Tradesonred]

It's easy because Nihilum built the best guild. Everyone started here on equal footing. You can't punish someone for winning, that's just stupid.

Nihilum zerged better than holocaust, then xp loss mechanic ensured nobody could challenge that zerg. Nizzar is a competent leader for sure although annoying, and he knows the game.

Im not so sure if the devs removed xp loss in pvp while nihi was still campin fear in classic, allowing for guerilla guilds to flourish, we'd be looking at the same server.

That played a huge part in cementing Nihilum's dominance.

Also lots of angry nerds with huge egos who know about the game but couldnt lead their way out of a wet paperbag, unable to put their childish disputes aside for a common goal, end result being a fractured opposition. AKA lite, andis, Jibekn etc

[Stasis01]

Stasis, the problem with making it the entire point of your R99 existence to snuff out Nihilum is that you aren't changing anything. Even if Nihilum was disbanded and every member banned tomorrow, within a month another guild would take its place.

It's EverQuest bro. It's the way this game works, and it is the way it always has worked. There are plenty of other choices for servers to play on that don't have a goal of duplicating the classic EQ experience - which not only encourages but basically requires a big dominant uberguild.

Maybe you and your crew should try one of those out.

What? I stated this when Nizzar left and Azrael took over. I didn't like it then either, static timers means one top guild (there is always a top guild) will take everything till they are bored and stop playing(never because Nihi are freaks).

[Stasis01]

It doesn't need to be this way, or at least in theory - try variance and see if competition starts.

If it fails you can always revert it back to 1 guild low pop blue box.

[Eslade]

It doesn't need to be this way, or at least in theory - try variance and see if competition starts.

If it fails you can always revert it back to 1 guild low pop blue box.

That's crazy talk stasis.

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[heartbrand]

Variance sure has helped the little guy be competitive on blue. Hasn't catered to the large Zerg neckbeards whatsoever. In b4 level 30 ranger track pvp.

[Stasis01]

Variance sure has helped the little guy be competitive on blue. Hasn't catered to the large Zerg neckbeards whatsoever. In b4 level 30 ranger track pvp.

You can't get worse than 0, 0 competing guilds, 0 static raid targets outside of #1.

Expecting Nihi to be rolling around 24/7 keeping raid targets down is how it should be, not one day a week back to back.

If CT window was right now I would be fighting around that area, if two mobs were up it could get real interesting.

Instead we have nothing, boredom, 1 day a week farming.

[Stasis01]

If you want everything, it shouldn't be this easy, and it shouldn't be this controlled.

Open up windows for various zones, where you can't bring everyone at a set time - and you'll see more PVP, and more people trying to put pressure on Nihi.

There is no way a group of players will ever go head to head vs Nihi and win, and if they do - they are now the new Nihi.

It doesn't make sense, doesn't work - it's proven.

[Syft 2.0]

It's easy because Nihilum built the best guild. Everyone started here on equal footing. You can't punish someone for winning, that's just stupid.

LMFAO you serious??? Nobody played here noob, it was just 30 Nihilum farming gear for about a year. I could give downs kids a year advantage in an MMO and watch them own spawns too.

Equal footing my ass.

[Kergan]

LMFAO you serious??? Nobody played here noob, it was just 30 Nihilum farming gear for about a year. I could give downs kids a year advantage in an MMO and watch them own spawns too.

Equal footing my ass.

I see. So non-Nihilum members were prohibited from logging in during this period?

[Stasis01]

I see. So non-Nihilum members were prohibited from logging in during this period?

After 20 generations of new players I've seen come and go saying the same things it's hard to still blame the players.

[heartbrand]

You can't get worse than 0, 0 competing guilds, 0 static raid targets outside of #1.

Expecting Nihi to be rolling around 24/7 keeping raid targets down is how it should be, not one day a week back to back.

If CT window was right now I would be fighting around that area, if two mobs were up it could get real interesting.

Instead we have nothing, boredom, 1 day a week farming.

You realize they don't need to fight there 24/7? They can just wait for the mob to pop and then log in en mass.

[Stasis01]

You realize they don't need to fight there 24/7? They can just wait for the mob to pop and then log in en mass.

On the contrary, if you want to keep control of zones with spawn windows you'd need to be hanging around - zone control would actually exist and matter.

We can hold KC down all day, doesn't matter, Nihi will show up at the exact spawn time with full force.

It would be more fun throughout the week for non-Nihi, I understand why you're against it.

[Sektor]

If you want everything, it shouldn't be this easy, and it shouldn't be this controlled.

Open up windows for various zones, where you can't bring everyone at a set time - and you'll see more PVP, and more people trying to put pressure on Nihi.

There is no way a group of players will ever go head to head vs Nihi and win, and if they do - they are now the new Nihi.

It doesn't make sense, doesn't work - it's proven.

Great quoted. Nihilum members read.

[Jenni D]

miss these forums when the pop was a daily max of 12. who are these cunts, really?

[Not Salem]

Actually Kergan, yeah non-Nihilum players were not allowed to log in, they were all banned

[JayDee]

Launch the fucking teams server already

[Kergan]

Bans don't stop people from playing. :)