anyone wana have fun?

[Agatha]

since there is 8 months atleast until velious, i was wondering if anyone was interested in getting the gang back together?

i see azrael sitting waiting for simulated, instead of focusing on gaining and lvling a contesting force. not very pvp at all.

i see hoku have simular problems, lots of what can you do for me attitudes, also lot of people voicing their opinions while jib is trying to give orders. he's doing the best he can.

there are several grps within nihilum that would switch to there "other side chars" to help contest against nihilum if there was a decent option.


Think its a time for a serious talk bro's and put the retard elf shit behind us. and start playing with eachother. This is my Last ditch effort. I have alot of interest, i just need alot more. Please get in contact with me.

FAQ,
no, i would not be the guild leader
first order would to be vet new players
#1 rule would to seek out new players vet, PL, and gear.
second, we'd set up the UI's. teach em how to click assist and pumice.
we'd go through the motions, we could have this done in 2 months we could be contesting trak.

it's all about time invested. i would take us 1 month if azrael would get involved instead of waiting like vultures for when hokuten falls apart.

[Lyzard]

I'd be totally down for something like this. I'm fresh out of the bag and ready to go

[Colgate]

tldr

[Agatha]

i realize i posted this in RNF, so i assume the flames will come, but ths is the last ditch effort, its now or never if u guuys want to contest nihilum in velious or u jujst want to grief and disrupt their raids.

the time is now pals.

[Dubs]

Save it Agatha...

[Dubs]

You were all nilly a few weeks ago now its viva la resistance, you and HB are confirmed spineless pixel whores who don't give 2 shits about taking down the zerg.. Can't stand you or your lispy brother good riddance - Ducks are for hunting bitch.

[Jenni D]

you have my bow...

JK i mean really

[quido]

Right idea from the wrong person

[Sektor]

Eh I don't hold grudges for very long and Agatha is right. Lite got jacked by Jupe which doesn't help but in the end the big picture is contesting Nihilium and actually having fun while doing it.

Lite has to many grudges with to many players and would likely sabotage anything you or anyone that wanted to help you would try to do.

Server just isn't what it used to be, it's not fun anymore and it's not just Nihilium, it's both sides and it's 2 of our current guides/gms that I can't stand anymore.

[Tassador]

God damn drugs dude. Server hasn't been what it was since classic days lvl 50 cap and a bunch of real red mother fuckers.

[|3igHurb]

oh u learned how to post in RnF

[heartbrand]

You were all nilly a few weeks ago now its viva la resistance, you and HB are confirmed spineless pixel whores who don't give 2 shits about taking down the zerg.. Can't stand you or your lispy brother good riddance - Ducks are for hunting bitch.

I haven't looted an item that improved my EverQuest character in over a year. I prolly give away more loot to pals than 95% of the people on this box. I never roll against people who need items, etc. Thanks tho.

[Cid]

The idea is a really good one, but, given the history of this server and the ridiculousness perpetrated on every side, even I have to be suspicious of the motives and sincerity of the decision. However, countless guilds in the history of EQ were created from a split in the top guild. I was actually thinking that it might be the only way for a competitive guild on Red to last more than a few months.

I don't pvp so I do not have a dog in this fight, so to speak, but if you find yourself in need of an unbiased mediator, I am good with conflict resolution and would gladly help out in the best interests of everyone.

If you decide to go for it, two months to contesting Trak might be a little overly ambitious. If 60% or more of the guild is experienced raiders it is definitely doable, but it takes a while to turn a casual player into a hardcore raider. The learning curve for the officers and leader is just as steep at first. If you can shrug off the impatience and avoid rushing new people into raiding you all get a chance to learn from each other.

If the person is genuinely new to EQ or to raiding in EQ it takes about a month of raiding 3 days a week to fully grasp the role of their class and the purpose behind it. Another month to have them unlearn bad habits and to instill good ones.
When all is said and done you are looking at 2 to 3 months just to field a competent and proficient raid force.
If you are slave-drivers you might be able to get to Trak at around the 4 month mark. Conservatively about 6 months to be a well-oiled machine. 4 to 5 months is more realistic, but you must be careful not to hurry.

I mean no offense I just didn't want anyone taking anything only at face value. Even taking it slow and steady 8 months is plenty of time.

[Agatha]

Eh I don't hold grudges for very long and Agatha is right. Lite got jacked by Jupe which doesn't help but in the end the big picture is contesting Nihilium and actually having fun while doing it.

Lite has to many grudges with to many players and would likely sabotage anything you or anyone that wanted to help you would try to do.

Server just isn't what it used to be, it's not fun anymore and it's not just Nihilium, it's both sides and it's 2 of our current guides/gms that I can't stand anymore.

sektors hit the nail on the head here, the judges lite carry and the seriouslyness he takes this game is hurting this server.

[Agatha]

sektors hit the nail on the head here, the judges lite carry and the seriouslyness he takes this game is hurting this server.

edit: what is keeping a strangle hold of lite having power over the 2nd guild is all his army of chars he has, well, i got that now, lets cut him out of the leadership position guys, and lets do this. cmon.

[Sektor]

I'm less then 4 months for my wedding, shit's getting to intense, no way I could help anyways.

[Agatha]

well we got 8 months to make it happen, then the server is lost forever when they pull way WAY to ahead in velious.

[Agatha]

this whole rift, of nilly vs azrael is some kind of sick delusion made up to propogate the non nilly into staying out of nilly, but i have to got to say the best time of my EQ career was IN nihilum.

why? because theyre guild fuctioned as a proper guild. noting i have seen on this server comes close. thats what im offering.

[Cheesypoof]

this whole rift, of nilly vs azrael is some kind of sick delusion made up to propogate the non nilly into staying out of nilly, but i have to got to say the best time of my EQ career was IN nihilum.

why? because theyre guild fuctioned as a proper guild. noting i have seen on this server comes close. thats what im offering.

Sounds like what you are saying is "Just join Nihilum" .

[Agatha]

no, what im saying is, lets make a second guild worth contesting against nihilum a real guild, with real rules, with real goals.

the big boys need to sit down and really talk this out. if you play this server 6+ hours a day like i do, you need to be talking to me if your not in nihilum

[Cid]

I have to agree, your strengths do not lie in Sales and Marketing, Agatha. Find a good Public Relations person and you may have stumbled upon an amazing guild recruiter. The best one I ever saw could fill a roster in a couple days, but under the slightest amount of stress and he folded like a lawnchair and freaked out.

Pick a good name too, a good guild name sells itself. If you have to explain the name, it's not a good one.

[Agatha]

nothing is set in stone, i need the power players, i need the robes, i need the lithiums, i need the chewies, i need the tarrans, i need all these people that are playing by themelves in there small 3 small krews to come talk to me. party and bronkar, you guys know who you are.

come talk to me, lets talk atleast guys.

[Eslade]

I have no clue what you're trying to get done here. From what you've written, it sounds like you want azrael-lite+noobs. You need to be more clear about what you want and what role you want to play. You can't just say a bunch of stuff about how we need to unite every guild against nihilum followed by saying that you don't know who should lead it.
http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2013/282/f/1/winners_don_t_do_drugs_except_for_captain_america_ by_bronybyexception-d6pugby.png

[Agatha]

we dont need to unite the guilds against nihilum, we need to break the existing ones down...

[heartbrand]

Party and bronkar nice people but useless to a guild. Same with robe. All of those people are only into their own crew stuff. You need people devoted to the guild not to themselves. Good luck.

[Agatha]

Party and bronkar nice people but useless to a guild. Same with robe. All of those people are only into their own crew stuff. You need people devoted to the guild not to themselves. Good luck.

because there isnt a guild worth fighting for.... party and bronkar some of the best guildies when the guild is PROPER.


thats what im getting at...

[HippoNipple]

nothing is set in stone, i need the power players, i need the robes, i need the lithiums, i need the chewies, i need the tarrans, i need all these people that are playing by themelves in there small 3 small krews to come talk to me. party and bronkar, you guys know who you are.

come talk to me, lets talk atleast guys.

You want chewie to come help you raid Kunark pixels?

[Cheesypoof]

Hokuten is trying to build up it's players from the ground up, and Jib is doing a pretty damn good job. What you described doing Jib has already started. Why don't you join up with Hokuten, and try to get your jobless neckbeard friends to do the same.

p.s. I completely disagree with HB about Robe. That guy will always find time to make jewerly for a guildy.

[HippoNipple]

Hokuten is trying to build up it's players from the ground up, and Jib is doing a pretty damn good job. What you described doing Jib has already started. Why don't you join up with Hokuten, and try to get your jobless neckbeard friends to do the same.

p.s. I completely disagree with HB about Robe. That guy will always find time to make jewerly for a guildy.

Because washed up vets circle up and coming guilds like sharks for their share of attention and momentary feeling of significance.

[Gaffin 7.0]

pity reply

[Kergan]

Agatha in this thread:

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view3/2083506/animal-house-o.gif

[lite]

http://puu.sh/akPPV/57a86abad5.jpg

reapp nilly already

[Eslade]

Agatha in this thread:

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view3/2083506/animal-house-o.gif

Was thinking more this than anything.

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view1/3705293/who-s-coming-with-me-o.gif

[lite]

Was thinking more this than anything.

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view1/3705293/who-s-coming-with-me-o.gif

makes no sense. i see someone interested in the background

[Eslade]

makes no sense. i see someone interested in the background

That's jupe.

[Gaffin 7.0]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TP8RB7UZHKI

[lite]

That's jupe.

Jupe was always a little weird, but when he wasn't high off his mind he was pretty level headed. Him and Agatha crashed very often as Agatha always tried to be the one running the show and Jupe knew better. Agatha was only allowed to remain nihilum because of Jupe. Despite Jupe joining 2nd, he made full member months before agatha. I am not even sure Agatha actually ever made FM.

[Deathwed]

Right idea from the wrong person

hahah was thinking same thing bro

[Mac Drettj]

second, we'd set up the UI's. teach em how to click assist and pumice.


http://i.imgur.com/B6bXScA.gif

[Sektor]

http://i.imgur.com/B6bXScA.gif

loooool

[mostbitter]

this gonna be goog

[Agatha]

all this potential, wasted. shame. it would be so easy to get a guild up and running to contest nihi, 2 months, tops. but noone is interested.

jibs doing gods work.

[mostbitter]

who gives a fuck, you know exactly how that shits gonna go. You need to quit talking to that shit bird Lite.

[Cheesypoof]

jibs doing gods work.

Exactly. So get your ass off the sidelines and start helping Hokuten.

[Agatha]

Exactly. So get your ass off the sidelines and start helping Hokuten.

i would help hokuten but im afraid that would cause to much rifts. Thats the problem, far to much drama on this server.

[Eslade]

i would help hokuten but im afraid that would cause to much rifts. Thats the problem, far to much drama on this server.

The only problem I have with a lot of you is that before you guys app nihilum, it's all about wheelchair this, rmt that, server balance, white knight, bla bla. Then after you app nihilum you swing from the duke's nuts like a first grader on a jungle gym. Then if something bad happens to your nilly status, we're supposed to forget that you 180'd.

The drama of the server is from people making posts like this followed by that very person working against what they were championing a few months ago.

[Cheesypoof]

The only advice I can give is to try to make amends with people you slighted in the past. Start helping out and don't bring drama. Jib is pretty reasonable in game, and i'm sure you could be a great asset. Hell you farmed a shitload of pearls. Most guilds would really benefit by having you on their team.

[Smedy]

lol agatha, this is terrible on so many levels

just quit for fuck sake, no one wants to play with flip floppers, why do you think willain and nizzar treated you like trash? cause you were a warm body since day #1 of joining nihilum and now you've achieved "warm body status" on all sides of the box, no one will ever trust you

Your best shot at "doing big things" on this box is, gather 3 cofs and re-apply to nihilum and wield your warm body status with pride and talk shit on the forums like so many other flip floppers do these days

[Cheesypoof]

Oh yeah and drugs are bad Mmmmkay.

http://www.bleachernation.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/drugs-are-bad-300x239.jpg

[Jib]

The only problem I have with a lot of you is that before you guys app nihilum, it's all about wheelchair this, rmt that, server balance, white knight, bla bla. Then after you app nihilum you swing from the duke's nuts like a first grader on a jungle gym. Then if something bad happens to your nilly status, we're supposed to forget that you 180'd.

The drama of the server is from people making posts like this followed by that very person working against what they were championing a few months ago.

heartbrand / tibberz / rexx / pyrokinetic / chopper

just some names off the top of my head that fall into this category

[Nirgon]

Agatha there's nothing wrong with this server. The people who spend all the time get all the loots, that's EQ. I think someone on this board told us that a few times.

[Kergan]

This thread could have been lighthearted and entertaining but instead it got depressing fast.

[Rellapse40]

lol at agattha

goog troll

u fucking drug addict
go OD

[heartbrand]

heartbrand / tibberz / rexx / pyrokinetic / chopper

just some names off the top of my head that fall into this category

I don't swing from anyone's nuts. There's a lot wrong with nihilum. But the alternative is to waste 17 hours a day baby sitting people as a guild leader and neglecting real life. Much easier to just play with a crew you like inside of Nihilum than deal with the drama of all the feuds and shit going on outside of nihilum.

[Rellapse40]

no 1 likes u either way

[Jib]

I don't swing from anyone's nuts. There's a lot wrong with nihilum. But the alternative is to waste 17 hours a day baby sitting people as a guild leader and neglecting real life. Much easier to just play with a crew you like inside of Nihilum than deal with the drama of all the feuds and shit going on outside of nihilum.

ive seen you pras the duke too many times, I understand you were just trying to make a few people mad, but that doesn't mean you didn't say it.

there are many different alternatives than the suggestion you made, you just chose the easiest path that was best for you, it just so happened to also be the worst for the server.

[Cheesypoof]

Ummm Lite wouldn't let HB into Azrael... At the time it was the only other alternative.

[heartbrand]

Could I revive red dawn and have list cut short raids within two weeks? Sure. Do I feel like spending 17 hours a day to do so? No. Saving that energy for teams99 in 2027.

[Agatha]

this is the 12 year old childish bullshit that makes it impossible to get shit done and for the duke to keep raking in the dragons....

you are all fools.

[Cheesypoof]

you are all fools.

Wow that post definately won me to your side Agatha. I think I'll app tonight.

[Eslade]

this is the 12 year old childish bullshit that makes it impossible to get shit done and for the duke to keep raking in the dragons....

you are all fools.

Sorry agatha, but the only way nihilum is going to get beat is if there was a schism of members. That's never going to happen because everyone is friends in nihilum, as displayed whenever a member quits or gets kicked out. Or it could be the pixels. Either one.

[Junkman]

5302

[Jib]

Ummm Lite wouldn't let HB into Azrael... At the time it was the only other alternative.

he never had to fold his guild in the first place

he never had to ally with nilly before he folded his guild

he could have let somebody else lead his guild

he could have just played more casually

he could have been the bigger man in the conflict with azrael instead of both being bitter.

I think Heartbrands biggest mistake was burning 17 hours a day into a guild. I spend about 4-6 a day with a few off days and things seem to be going pretty well for the most part. So far we have only moved forward never backward

[Rellapse40]

Could I revive red dawn and have list cut short raids within two weeks? Sure. Do I feel like spending 17 hours a day to do so? No. Saving that energy for teams99 in 2027.

not a single person other than chopper would ever join a guild with ur retarded ass in charge again

[Cheesypoof]

he never had to fold his guild in the first place

True

he never had to ally with nilly before he folded his guild

Azrael wouldn't ally with RD. He did what was best for his guild. He never set out to destroy Nilly like you have, that wasn't the point of RD.

he could have let somebody else lead his guild

True

he could have just played more casually

I fail to see your point.

he could have been the bigger man in the conflict with azrael instead of both being bitter.

Even if he was the bigger man he still had no chance of getting a Azrael tag, you personally would have blocked him along with several others.

[Jib]

True
I fail to see your point.

Even if he was the bigger man he still had no chance of getting a Azrael tag, you personally would have blocked him along with several others.

its not always about winning...

I was one of the few trying to get HB and lite to work together.

[Kergan]

I know I play to lose, winning means nothing.

[georgie]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaKou8nMYu8

[Fame]

oh fuck, good laugh, missed red

[heartbrand]

I closed red dawn because numbers continued to drop every week at raids as the GMs continued to post about how exp removal is great and it needs to get worse for it to get better. When rogean accidentally put exp back in for four hours we had like 50 people at a. Fear raid. He removed it hours later and I think we had low 20 at the next raid. We knew low 20s wasn't doing anything in Velious so why waste time on a sinking ship? The majority of my closest friends all play with me in Nihilum now so it's all good.

[Genedin]

too bad you turned into a scum bag when you joined Nihilum again, or just returned to your normal behavior

[Jib]

I closed red dawn because numbers continued to drop every week at raids as the GMs continued to post about how exp removal is great and it needs to get worse for it to get better. When rogean accidentally put exp back in for four hours we had like 50 people at a. Fear raid. He removed it hours later and I think we had low 20 at the next raid. We knew low 20s wasn't doing anything in Velious so why waste time on a sinking ship? The majority of my closest friends all play with me in Nihilum now so it's all good.

i remember that time of exp, it was a dangerous time for any non 60 guild. you should have taken that moment to become stronger not weaker. you had plenty of people on your guild forums asking you to press on, this was a good time to really see who was loyal and really wanted to help the guild. to expand your core.

The hard times of struggling are the best times, its when you start to win it gets boring.

instead you flushed it all down the toilet.

[heartbrand]

Ya sorry this is a game not a job. Feel bad for those so bitter and mad over it.

[lite]

if leveling rates is all it took to kill Red Dawn, then the sooner the better. However, we know that's not the case.

[Cid]

If a lack of immediate interest or a little opposition already have you discouraged or second-guessing the idea, then you are unlikely to be capable of seeing a guild through the growing pains.
There is a good reason I don't have the drive now and so many guilds die out after an initial surge. It will take its toll on every officer and especially the leader. Don't take the decision lightly because people are going to put their faith in you.

Plan the guild out and get a solid foundation in place before you start building. Figure out who among you will be the leader and how many officers there will be and what roles each of you will perform. I like the number seven so we had two Raid Officers, two Recruitment Officers, two Guild Officers to help me take care of the day to day stuff and my job was to resolve conflicts between guildies especially but with all the people outside the guild they pissed off.
The specifics will be up to the core group, but everything will go smoother when everyone knows their job and can focus on it exclusively. There will be a thousand unexpected headaches at least and somedays you will feel like you are babysitting spoiled kids on a sugar rush.

I will gladly help you and whomever else figure out a plan and get the basics set up if you all would like some assistance. Just PM me or something and we can discuss it outside a public forum.

[Kergan]

Yeah took Azrael the champions of anti-Nihilum contesting to refuse to aid them. Then Azrael was crushed shortly after.

Goog example of Lite leadership skills.

[Mac Drettj]

If a lack of immediate interest or a little opposition already have you discouraged or second-guessing the idea, then you are unlikely to be capable of seeing a guild through the growing pains.
There is a good reason I don't have the drive now and so many guilds die out after an initial surge. It will take its toll on every officer and especially the leader. Don't take the decision lightly because people are going to put their faith in you.

Plan the guild out and get a solid foundation in place before you start building. Figure out who among you will be the leader and how many officers there will be and what roles each of you will perform. I like the number seven so we had two Raid Officers, two Recruitment Officers, two Guild Officers to help me take care of the day to day stuff and my job was to resolve conflicts between guildies especially but with all the people outside the guild they pissed off.
The specifics will be up to the core group, but everything will go smoother when everyone knows their job and can focus on it exclusively. There will be a thousand unexpected headaches at least and somedays you will feel like you are babysitting spoiled kids on a sugar rush.

I will gladly help you and whomever else figure out a plan and get the basics set up if you all would like some assistance. Just PM me or something and we can discuss it outside a public forum.

http://a2.mzstatic.com/us/r30/Purple/v4/c4/ab/bc/c4abbcb9-87b6-f3b2-a68e-294637f2f5db/screen480x480.jpeg

[Kergan]

Totally getting my kid the new Laforge reading app for her iPad!

[Eslade]

Yeah took Azrael the champions of anti-Nihilum contesting to refuse to aid them. Then Azrael was crushed shortly after.

Goog example of Lite leadership skills.

Not quite how it went down. But I can see how someone that hugs nuts as tight as you do could get the story confused.

[HippoNipple]

if leveling rates is all it took to kill Red Dawn, then the sooner the better. However, we know that's not the case.

If leveling is all that took down a guild trying to overthrow Nihilum then it would have no chance but Red Dawn had a lot of members that didin't care about that. For many it was just a way to enjoy the server while getting away from all the regular players that made the server stale.

In Velious there will be a lot more raid targets and RD could have done their own thing without having to go head to head with the number 1 guild.

[Kergan]

Not quite how it went down. But I can see how someone that hugs nuts as tight as you do could get the story confused.

Love when the nuthugger comments start. Lite blames HB, HB blames Lite. I don't know/care what happened. Willing to give my pal HB the benefit of the doubt on this one, mostly because if Lite is involved and it gets fucked up there is a 100% chance it was something he did.

Just history repeating itself for the 50th time.

[Eslade]

Love when the nuthugger comments start. Lite blames HB, HB blames Lite. I don't know/care what happened. Willing to give my pal HB the benefit of the doubt on this one, mostly because if Lite is involved and it gets fucked up there is a 100% chance it was something he did.

Just history repeating itself for the 50th time.

Mistakes made on both sides. I have no problems with the Rd members that went to nihilum. Heartbrand still a good guy.

You however are a nut swinger and don't get to have an opinion about what happened.

[Rellapse40]

HB is scum

http://i.imgur.com/QFHj8.gif

[Kergan]

Mistakes made on both sides. I have no problems with the Rd members that went to nihilum. Heartbrand still a good guy.

You however are a nut swinger and don't get to have an opinion about what happened.

This is america pal, I can have uninformed opinions on whatever the fuck I want to.

p.s. stop swinging on Lite's nuts

[Colgate]

this thread is full of psychopaths

seek help, all of you

[LulzSect]

this thread is full of psychopaths

seek help, all of you

[quido]

Agatha, I'm not sure you realize how little respect you command. Most of us who know you want absolutely nothing to do with you. Stop trying to once again place yourself right into the middle of the resistance. For me, and likely for a lot of us, you being involved is a complete dealbreaker that will keep us away.

[freez]

http://cthagodworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Chief-Keef-Sued-Charity-Event.-NAH.jpg

[iiNGloriouS]

Same with robe..

Probably because most of us despise you. I have personally never come across someone who has been more helpful, or gungho at trying to keep spirits up.

I can't speak for Bronkar, but Robe is definitely good folk.

Besides that, Azrael's prepping for TI5, we gotta slay those damned Chinese for 6+ mill in first place.

[Mac Drettj]

robe bronkar larsen slathar

bluest players to touch red

[Eslade]

This is america pal, I can have uninformed opinions on whatever the fuck I want to.

p.s. stop swinging on Lite's nuts

Can't remember the last time I said pras lite.

[Mac Drettj]

edalse what guild are you in, what class are you, and what lvl?

[Eslade]

edalse what guild are you in, what class are you, and what lvl?

Atm, Hokuten, cleric, 57. Non-factor status confirmed.

[Nirgon]

this is the 12 year old childish bullshit that makes it impossible to get shit done and for the duke to keep raking in the dragons....

you are all fools.

There's nothing wrong with this server

[heartbrand]

If leveling is all that took down a guild trying to overthrow Nihilum then it would have no chance but Red Dawn had a lot of members that didin't care about that. For many it was just a way to enjoy the server while getting away from all the regular players that made the server stale.

In Velious there will be a lot more raid targets and RD could have done their own thing without having to go head to head with the number 1 guild.

Unfortunately we needed a raid force of mid low 30's to 40. I had no issue being a second tier velious guild doing WToV / NTOV named drakes / vindi etc. But we didn't have the numbers even close and at the time exp bonus was completely removed. It's easy for the boxers of azrael who have been 60 for three years when there was a 300% exp bonus and no on the server pvping to talk, but for red dawn you could spend an hour at efreeti and get literally 1% exp, not to mention getting ass fucked from both sides.

[Vile]

but for red dawn you could spend an hour at efreeti and get literally 1% exp, not to mention getting ass fucked from both sides.
those days were bad :mad:

[Colgate]

those days were bad :mad:

every day on this server is bad

[freez]

every day on this server is bad

amen

[Rellapse40]

Unfortunately we needed a raid force of mid low 30's to 40. I had no issue being a second tier velious guild doing WToV / NTOV named drakes / vindi etc. But we didn't have the numbers even close and at the time exp bonus was completely removed. It's easy for the boxers of azrael who have been 60 for three years when there was a 300% exp bonus and no on the server pvping to talk, but for red dawn you could spend an hour at efreeti and get literally 1% exp, not to mention getting ass fucked from both sides.

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[Tacitus]

Hit me up ingame Ragnaros, I just joined yesterday night and allready a level 15 rogue. I have alot of experience and used to play on Rallos Zek, just dont have anybody to associate with on here.

[georgie]

nilium alts Kinda Stupid idea

[Agatha]

If a lack of immediate interest or a little opposition already have you discouraged or second-guessing the idea, then you are unlikely to be capable of seeing a guild through the growing pains.
There is a good reason I don't have the drive now and so many guilds die out after an initial surge. It will take its toll on every officer and especially the leader. Don't take the decision lightly because people are going to put their faith in you.

Plan the guild out and get a solid foundation in place before you start building. Figure out who among you will be the leader and how many officers there will be and what roles each of you will perform. I like the number seven so we had two Raid Officers, two Recruitment Officers, two Guild Officers to help me take care of the day to day stuff and my job was to resolve conflicts between guildies especially but with all the people outside the guild they pissed off.
The specifics will be up to the core group, but everything will go smoother when everyone knows their job and can focus on it exclusively. There will be a thousand unexpected headaches at least and somedays you will feel like you are babysitting spoiled kids on a sugar rush.

I will gladly help you and whomever else figure out a plan and get the basics set up if you all would like some assistance. Just PM me or something and we can discuss it outside a public forum.

thank you

[georgie]

I'm in tho, I rather jump in something new then something that's already not working

[Vile]

every day on this server is bad

v true

[Agatha]

I'm in tho, I rather jump in something new then something that's already not working

[BeautBabeC]

Ill join you 56clr/54shm/54bard/50druid only if hand holding though

[quido]

can i have some gear please?

[Barladore]

lol agatha, this is terrible on so many levels

just quit for fuck sake, no one wants to play with flip floppers, why do you think willain and nizzar treated you like trash? cause you were a warm body since day #1 of joining nihilum and now you've achieved "warm body status" on all sides of the box, no one will ever trust you

Your best shot at "doing big things" on this box is, gather 3 cofs and re-apply to nihilum and wield your warm body status with pride and talk shit on the forums like so many other flip floppers do these days

Smedy on point.

[Uuruk]

Agatha I'd your bard fasterfeet?

[mtb tripper]

and my axe

[Quiet]

In

[mtb tripper]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okZOuUcChTU