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iruinedyourday
07-21-2014, 12:03 AM
So I really enjoy merchants/banking in OT - you can bank KOS if your clever but merchants not so much.

If you level in KC/HS from like 49-55+ can you rebuild faction doing this quest?

http://wiki.project1999.com/Protect_the_Shipyard

Ive read some old 2011 posts about it being both impossible and not impssible, so I do not know.

Has anyone leveled deep in KC/HS and been able to bring faction back up to apprehensive?

I am not looking to get a hammer, just merchant.

Thanks!

username17
07-21-2014, 12:14 AM
Yes. You should be able to recover from deep KOS by turning in braids. You'll need charm, faction song, wolf form or something else to bring your faction up high enough to actually do the turnins though.

I am not speaking from personal experience though. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

fastboy21
07-21-2014, 12:33 AM
the very thought of wanting to fix VS faction makes me feel slightly ill...

Fiyero
07-21-2014, 12:34 AM
No more KC for you!

iruinedyourday
07-21-2014, 12:36 AM
dude I feel ill ughhhh its so nice to hammer to buy supplies /barf

Troxx
07-21-2014, 12:43 AM
The merchants are greedy - I never sell to them.

I worked to get my faction to non kos after application of faction song only so I could xp in the zone without getting jumped by trains of dragoons etc. Once I hit 48 and outgrew OT giving any real xp, I promptly trashed my faction and never looked back.

Getting out of OT outpost after hammering in is really easy even if kos.

Clark
07-21-2014, 01:16 AM
The merchants are greedy - I never sell to them.

Lol

iruinedyourday
07-21-2014, 01:44 AM
The merchants are greedy - I never sell to them.


haha yea - Its like having laundry pickup & delivered. Its just extremely convenient :P

*edit* like ugh right now i have been running from group to raid to group to epic with no downtime (which is a great thing I'm not complaining) and i keep forget to get food! if i could OT then gate to dem WC spires id be golden!

damn u sony for making OT on VS faction /qq

Byrjun
07-21-2014, 08:58 AM
One of the fringe benefits of getting a VP key is always having maxed VS faction. Sometimes I think getting a VP key is easier than jumping through Rottgrime's bullshit hoops.

Daldaen
07-21-2014, 09:00 AM
One of the fringe benefits of getting a VP key is always having maxed VS faction. Sometimes I think getting a VP key is easier than jumping through Rottgrime's bullshit hoops.

Getting a VP Key and raiding in a Class C guild***

Cause just having a VP key doesn't matter if you aren't getting those 6 dragon faction hits every week.

PS Tuesday respawns are dumb.

Tecmos Deception
07-21-2014, 09:03 AM
Yes. You should be able to recover from deep KOS by turning in braids. You'll need charm, faction song, wolf form or something else to bring your faction up high enough to actually do the turnins though.

I am not speaking from personal experience though. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

I think it was changed so that you don't get faction hits from a quest that you complete with a charmed NPC anymore.

Also, ports are easy to find, you could consider fixing FV faction, you could bother other people for food (summoned food/drink in bags isn't disappearing right now), you could fix cabilis faction enough to use some merchants, etc. Being on good terms in OT is a tiny convenience, but that's all really, definitely a big effort to fix bad faction there unless you can get into VP to tag dragons.

phobus
07-21-2014, 09:53 AM
Klok G`rshai (http://wiki.project1999.com/Klok_G%60rshai), the neutral vendor near the WW zone, apparently sells water and iron rations.

Byrjun
07-21-2014, 10:07 AM
Cause just having a VP key doesn't matter if you aren't getting those 6 dragon faction hits every week.

There's low level (5ish?) mobs in the zone that give huge VS faction hits. You don't need dragon kills.

Taminy
07-21-2014, 10:10 AM
There's low level (5ish?) mobs in the zone that give huge VS faction hits. You don't need dragon kills.

Which ones?

Daldaen
07-21-2014, 10:28 AM
There's low level (5ish?) mobs in the zone that give huge VS faction hits. You don't need dragon kills.

Pretty sure I heard about that being nerfed. Then again I haven't bothered zoning into VP since getting keyed. Getting Class C flagged is low on my to do list.

Jaxon
07-21-2014, 10:46 AM
Only the named VP dragons are exclusive to Class C. Everything else in the zone is free to be killed by anyone.

Daldaen
07-21-2014, 10:57 AM
Kind of assumed that but reading the rules has me curious.

VP dragons are listed as exclusive to Class C. But the "After 6 hours FFA" rule is there too. Which trumps which. IE if shitty Silverwing is up after 6 hours and a Class R guild kills, because it went FFA do they stay R? Or because it's exclusive to C it forces them to C?

Not that any neckbeards would leave precious pixels up for so long... But I'm curious.

Oh yes to the OP, the war braids quest works but you can't charm as stated above, you won't get faction hits while he is charmed. Really the only viable options are to kill dragons (open world and VP count) or go back in time and don't EXP in Karnors. But as stated above, it's not the end of the world. OT merchants all suck cause they are greedy.

Taralia
07-21-2014, 11:05 AM
you realize ALL outpost merchants are greedy? i only use to buy food/water and bank

fastboy21
07-21-2014, 11:10 AM
help the economy: hammer to ot then buy a port to the magical land of the commons. enjoy the company of fellow players attempting to scam their way into a 5k profit on a fungi tunic. you can also take in a free dose of all the ooc you can take. no extra charge.

go commons.

Jaxon
07-21-2014, 11:31 AM
I'm guessing that since the "exclusive mobs" is in a section all its own it trumps the 6 hour FFA rule. And if I'm reading the rules correctly, you need to actually be a Class C guild before you can kill a named VP mob.

Lisset
07-21-2014, 12:02 PM
You don't have to be class c to kill a class c mob. But once you have killed a class c mob, you are class c. In fact, killing a class c mob is the only way to become class c.

Jaxon
07-21-2014, 12:33 PM
The named VP mobs aren't Class C.

Yumyums Inmahtumtums
07-21-2014, 01:49 PM
OT faction worthless except for guard assist on red.

mishurza
07-21-2014, 05:18 PM
or you could poke any one of the outdoor dragons while another guild is killing it for a really nice VS faction hit. Doesn't require a VP key either.

iruinedyourday
07-21-2014, 05:55 PM
Cool thanks for the response guys - Looks like I can hammer/run to buy food from this little number at the pond: http://wiki.project1999.com/Klok_G%60rshai

idk i just liked being able to shop in that little secret club house it had much RP value forme :P

maybe once I get to 60 Ill rebuild my faction idk

I loved that little fort.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25736152/EQ/MEME.JPG