Symbol of Marzin

[Calabee]

Symbol of Marzin (o) updated peridots 1 => 2

At the risk of being hated by other cle's, this still only takes 1

[Daldaen]

Everlore November 2000 (https://web.archive.org/web/20021214070747/http://www.everlore.com/magic/Magic.asp?ID=124412&mode=details&spname=Symbol+of+Marzin&type=)

News flash, This spell takes two Peridot to cast.
so thats 20-25 pp per casting. This amount of HP is nice on Raids and such but that is just about it.

Seems classic.

[khanable]

pras

[Ele]

wizards now have good company

[thieros]

Spells
(c) = Current. The version of the spell currently active on red/blue.
(o) = Old. A version of the spell prior to red/blue timeline.
(a) = All. Affects all versions of the spell including those active on red/blue.
If there's no () notation after the spell, it's assumed to be a change for immediately when Velious is released.

So that is an old patch, 1 peridot per cast is correct at this point in timeline.

[Daldaen]

I Dont know were u guys comeup with this stuff. I only takes one Peridot to cast not two.
Dont post it if you dont know.

Omegasunny
Fennin Ro
54th Cleric

Ok I will clear some things up. It used to take 2 to cast but now only takes 1 dot. Secondly I saw a big annocement when the MA got over 6k HP on a raid so you can not get 8k HP due to the fact that may symbols do not stack with other classes.

Alido 54 Cleric of bertoxx

Both October 2001 posts.

[khanable]

you'd think something like this would actually be in patch notes, but I'm not finding anything

[Daldaen]

Hrmm doesn't Naltron's Mark use 2 peridots on this server?

EQClerics 2000 (http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1444&highlight=Marzin+peridot)

But since I got Naltron's Mark (only uses 1 peridot for group symbol)--the use of peridot have eased on exp camps. Even though Naltron's Mark is about 200-250 less then Marzin, my higher end Hero/BoF compensates for less hp buff.

[khanable]

http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/showpost.php?p=6654&postcount=2
EQ clerics, aug 2000

At long last a truly useful spell!

Group Naltron gives us a true choice. Group buff with a lower spell or individually Marzin everyone. I think the group Naltron will get used a LOT. I know I'd give out group Naltron as a normal buff if I had this. 11pp is so much easier to swallow than 66.

Just my 2cp...


insinuating marzin uses 1 dot

http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/showpost.php?p=8390&postcount=3
I agree, peridot is too expensive for Naltron. If Marzin is available it will never be cast in any situation. Otherwise people will stick to Pizarn regardless of having Naltron available. It certainly isn't a strong enough spell to justify the expense.

Transaal - 3gp component
Ryltan - 6gp component
Pizarn - 9gp component
Naltron - 11pp component
Marzin - 11pp component

It certainly looks like the peridot requirement for Naltron is out of place.

Enchanters have the same issue in the Rune series.

[Daldaen]

I agree, peridot is too expensive for Naltron. If Marzin is available it will never be cast in any situation. Otherwise people will stick to Pizarn regardless of having Naltron available. It certainly isn't a strong enough spell to justify the expense.

Transaal - 3gp component
Ryltan - 6gp component
Pizarn - 9gp component
Naltron - 11pp component
Marzin - 11pp component

It certainly looks like the peridot requirement for Naltron is out of place.

Enchanters have the same issue in the Rune series.

No mention of double peridots.

Leaning towards it is supposed to be single peridot when reading EQCleric boards. Several mentions of it being only a peridot or a 11pp component. The Everlore poster I quoted *may* have been retarded.

[Ele]

No mention of double peridots.

Leaning towards it is supposed to be single peridot when reading EQCleric boards. Several mentions of it being only a peridot or a 11pp component. The Everlore poster I quoted *may* have been retarded.

Yeah, I'm not seeing any double peridot posts on EQ Clerics, and they would be the first to complain.

Quite a number of posts trying to compare costs for Naltron, Marzin, and Naltron's Mark. People keep complaining about Naltron being too expensive at 1 peridot versus Marzin 1 peridot.

[khanable]

Interesting tidbit I learned today:

United Resolve was originally a group resolution buff (level 54), and it appears to have been replaced by group Naltron's at some point in kunark (august)

Neat

[Migs351]

Bumping this for Enchanters' Rune V as well. It never required 2 peridots to cast, it was always just a single peridot.

[Ele]

Bumping this for Enchanters' Rune V as well. It never required 2 peridots to cast, it was always just a single peridot.

Only requires 1 peridot on Beta and Blue.

[Migs351]

Only requires 1 peridot on Beta and Blue.

Oh, good, didn't see this "fix" or change in any patch notes.

I don't have the spell yet (next level) so I wasn't able to check it, but just stumbled across the 1 -> 2 cost patch note and was like Double Yew, Tee, Eff! ;)

Thanks for the reply! Sorry for resurrecting the dead!