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chaser95
07-13-2014, 11:45 PM
Trying to Decide if Jboots would be worth farming 7.5k or just keep leveling my low 20's necro to 39-44 and farm oot AC myself is it a deal breaker not to have it or can do just fine without thanks!
username17
07-13-2014, 11:53 PM
Keep leveling and farm them yourself. They're really only needed if you aggro kite and you shouldn't be aggro kiting per Sesserdrix.
http://wiki.project1999.com/Sesserdrix%27s_All_in_One_Necromancer_Strategy_Gui de
Oleris
07-14-2014, 12:00 AM
I love my JBoots. They aren't that needed for earlier levels, but will make travel/escape easier. I farmed them myself at the OOT camp, but you will need to plan a day to get them if the camp is already taken.
chaser95
07-14-2014, 05:39 AM
Thanks for the replies whats the lowest level a necro can farm them in OOT 39 or wait for 44?
Uteunayr
07-14-2014, 09:59 AM
Keep leveling and farm them yourself. They're really only needed if you aggro kite and you shouldn't be aggro kiting per Sesserdrix.
http://wiki.project1999.com/Sesserdrix%27s_All_in_One_Necromancer_Strategy_Gui de
I would add that they are quite useful beyond aggro kiting, just not as essential. Jboots will help you get more distance faster between a mob that resists your darkness, or that you need to refear. That gained time then gives you more time to sit and med.
It just isn't as essential as it would be to aggro kiting, which should just never happen.
And thanks for the guide plug! :D
brecon
07-14-2014, 01:25 PM
Less deaths = less xp loss and faster xp gain. If Jboots save you from 10 deaths over the next 20 levels, it's probably worth farming the plat. Go group in HHK and sell goblin ears in EC, you'll make money quickly.
Jboots are also very useful if you are solo fear kiting, because it gives you time to land your snare, run back, and land a fear. Without run speed enhancement, you're pretty likely to take a hit before you get off a fear or a FD, and necro taunt aggro isn't consistent enough to take off the mob every time before it gets to you.
williestargell
07-14-2014, 03:04 PM
Sow pots are a good substitute for jboots until you can affor them. Jboots just make everything more easy if you cant cast sow - literally everything is faster/easier.
brecon
07-14-2014, 03:34 PM
^
iruinedyourday
07-14-2014, 06:59 PM
I would add that they are quite useful beyond aggro kiting, just not as essential. Jboots will help you get more distance faster between a mob that resists your darkness, or that you need to refear. That gained time then gives you more time to sit and med.
It just isn't as essential as it would be to aggro kiting, which should just never happen.
And thanks for the guide plug! :D
haha i just read your Why Necromancer? section of your guide, Mr. good guy necromancer!!!
haha love it. Nice work. :cool:
Rhambuk
07-14-2014, 07:40 PM
Trying to Decide if Jboots would be worth farming 7.5k or just keep leveling my low 20's necro to 39-44 and farm oot AC myself is it a deal breaker not to have it or can do just fine without thanks!
7.5k!? wha wha I haven't been gone that long have I?
gonna go try and sell my fbss at a ridiculous 35k now.
I could never justify paying that much its idiotic. stick with sow pots until you can solo the camp yourself. unless you have plat flying out of your ass but even then don't give these scamming mqers the satisfaction!
Tewaz
07-14-2014, 11:41 PM
Just drop like 700 plat on sow pots and you will have enough sow until you hit 50, guaranteed.
Brujean
07-15-2014, 04:15 AM
Yeah just buy sow pots or bum sows off others until you're high enough to camp ac, as that should pretty much assure you never die while soloing in combination with harmshield and feign death.
While Sesserdrix's guide is a nice collection of information, it does contain some biased and poorly tested hypotheses on the class, and should only be used as a general reference.
Uteunayr
07-15-2014, 07:30 AM
haha i just read your Why Necromancer? section of your guide, Mr. good guy necromancer!!!
haha love it. Nice work. :cool:
Damn right, lol. Just saying, enchanters are far more evil than necromancers. Sure, necromancers create skeletal minions, but enchanters enslave your mind and make you kill your friends. Necromancers may life drain, but at least that life gets put to a purpose. Wizards and Magicians just blow it up and waste it. That life can do a lot of good rather than just being wasted.
Just drop like 700 plat on sow pots and you will have enough sow until you hit 50, guaranteed.
Pretty much this.
While Sesserdrix's guide is a nice collection of information, it does contain some biased and poorly tested hypotheses on the class, and should only be used as a general reference.
Feel free to offer any constructive criticism and tested reasons behind your claims of "biased and poorly tested hypotheses on the class". As I say at the beginning of the guide: "I have a great respect for what can be shown with empirical evidence. If you believe that something I put in this guide is not factual, and you have proof for it, by all means, please share." Please do so, otherwise your criticism means nothing.
7.5k!? wha wha I haven't been gone that long have I?
gonna go try and sell my fbss at a ridiculous 35k now.
I could never justify paying that much its idiotic. stick with sow pots until you can solo the camp yourself. unless you have plat flying out of your ass but even then don't give these scamming mqers the satisfaction!
To be fair to the MQers, the South Ro camp isn't really viable anymore since they changed the mechanics, so it now has to be camped in OOT, which may be harder (I don't have any experience camping it). Also, it's literally one of the best items in the game since it actually changes how the game is played (permanent access to faster movement speed) rather than just giving some stats.
Daldaen
07-15-2014, 10:17 AM
7500 plat / 100 plat = 75
75 * 10 SoW Potions * 35 min duration = 26,250 min of SoW
26,250 min / 60 min = 437.5 hours of SoW
437.5 hours / 24 hours = 18.23 Days of SoW
That's a lot of SoW for what JBoots cost.
Pros: 20% faster. Double Duration (very helpful when going indoors). Don't have to deal with MQ sale failing. Don't have to do long camp.
Cons: 4s cast VS instant. Not "unlimited". Have to restock occasionally.
For leveling an alt, just buy 5 potions (30 hours of SoW). It should get you to mid 30-40s to where you can camp it yourself.
iruinedyourday
07-15-2014, 02:24 PM
Damn right, lol. Just saying, enchanters are far more evil than necromancers. Sure, necromancers create skeletal minions, but enchanters enslave your mind and make you kill your friends.
haha yes! look how evil this guy is, SO EVIL!!!!! :) need something more evil than a Cup tho - soon.. soooooon.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25736152/EQ/evil.JPG
*edit* also once I screencaped my computer to read your sig - now I know I could have just read your Wiki :P
Malone88
07-25-2014, 02:08 PM
To be fair to the MQers, the South Ro camp isn't really viable anymore since they changed the mechanics, so it now has to be camped in OOT, which may be harder (I don't have any experience camping it). Also, it's literally one of the best items in the game since it actually changes how the game is played (permanent access to faster movement speed) rather than just giving some stats.
Why is this camp not viable? Are you talking for blue server only or red also?
Uteunayr
07-25-2014, 05:57 PM
Why is this camp not viable? Are you talking for blue server only or red also?
I think what he is referring to is that you can't really "camp" the SRO AC. I am no expert on this camp, so take this with a grain of salt, but if I remember correctly, the change to the SRO AC camp was to make it not spawn on 3 specific mobs, but virtually any mob. On top of that, it is a roamer, and you're not able to camp a roamer mob unless you're at its' particular spawn point at the time when it spawns. Once it roams, it is a FFA mob.
I suppose the best would be a bard who could AE clear the desert part of the zone, and get a spawn, and use bard speed to have the best advantage getting the AC... But others could just sit there and wait for your AC spawn and if they are closer, can snag it from under you.
MilanderTruewield
07-29-2014, 08:07 PM
Unless you're dealing with people who have common decency to leave it alone since you're killing the ph's.
Uteunayr
07-29-2014, 08:53 PM
Unless you're dealing with people who have common decency to leave it alone since you're killing the ph's.
I wish everyone were like this.
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