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mjrau
07-10-2014, 08:09 PM
Hi guys,
I'm looking for a few ideas about the best race for an SK (was going to go Iskar) or a thread about the best race for SK so that I can read anything else that might point me in the best direction.
Cheers

Deldanko
07-11-2014, 03:07 AM
Play what you want. Im an Ikky SK and i will say the road is tough. i wouldnt change though because its the class/race combo I've always wanted to play. come velious all SKs will be little skeletons running around anyways.

phacemeltar
07-11-2014, 04:46 AM
no such thing as good race for SK.. all SK are evil.. perhaps you will want to play human, as they are least evil

Nogdar
07-11-2014, 06:25 AM
there's another thread if you dig a few pages where we all discussed it in length.

But, TL:DR = Ogre of course!

Nagash
07-11-2014, 12:01 PM
If you want to mini-max and split hair in 4, go ogre, if you want to have fun, play whatever toon whose backside you find the nicest, after all, you are about to stare at this butt for quite a few hours, whatever race you go with.

Brut
07-11-2014, 12:12 PM
Play ogre cuz they're awesome fun and cool looking. You get to talk about eating gnomes in bad english with fellow ogrums, while ikky SKs are talking leetspeek and calling ppl minmax noobs while hurtling untold amounts of AC/regen charts and making empty promises about Velious SK tanking.

Also best starting stats + best racial perk.

Clark
07-11-2014, 02:24 PM
Ogre hands down.

Zehrikrom
07-14-2014, 11:40 AM
Female gnome.

Thulack
07-14-2014, 12:43 PM
Female gnome.

not classic! :D:D

kaev
07-14-2014, 01:44 PM
Female gnome.

While the pinch-faced petite harpy/witch is a totally classic archetype, in :classic: EQ you must to use a class other than SK to express your hidden resentment of great-gramma.

williestargell
07-14-2014, 03:08 PM
I like dark elf for SK, they actually have a mana pool.

Nogdar
07-14-2014, 06:22 PM
So important cause it drains so fast with disease cloud!

Dumesh Uhl'Belk
07-15-2014, 02:16 AM
I suppose I should rep for the Trolls =)

Play whatever you like the look of. I'm addicted to regen. Others aren't skilled enough... err... don't like to play without frontal stun immunity. In the end, if you aren't having fun, you're doing it wrong.

Daldaen
07-15-2014, 07:18 AM
http://zam.zamimg.com/images/9/0/9051c15f3e21b79f2f27a33f081d8c54.png

If not Iksar. You're wrong.

If class can be Iksar, it should be iksar.

Swish
07-15-2014, 07:47 AM
If you play troll/ogre - don't expect to pull out of the castle in Mistmoore too easily ;)

arsenalpow
07-15-2014, 08:27 AM
Repping Erudite. My SK is soooooo smart.

Nightbear
07-15-2014, 02:06 PM
If not Iksar. You're wrong.

If class can be Iksar, it should be iksar.

williestargell
07-16-2014, 10:48 AM
So important cause it drains so fast with disease cloud!

Actually, my friend has a lowbie ogre sk, and he is constantly out of mana and we have to stop pulling if we want him to hold agro. Twice as much mana means less downtime, especially if soloing. That is less pronounced at high level, but Sk's still run out of mana when grouping. People on p99 that play knights tend to view them only as tanks that have better agro, ignoring their spells, some of which are highly useful.

Rhambuk
07-16-2014, 11:31 AM
Repping Erudite. My SK is soooooo smart.

best looking plate or an sk also

Nogdar
07-17-2014, 04:43 AM
Actually, my friend has a lowbie ogre sk, and he is constantly out of mana and we have to stop pulling if we want him to hold agro. Twice as much mana means less downtime, especially if soloing. That is less pronounced at high level, but Sk's still run out of mana when grouping. People on p99 that play knights tend to view them only as tanks that have better agro, ignoring their spells, some of which are highly useful.

I agree to say that at lower levels it might make a little difference (though then again at lower levels the mana return per INT point is less I believe, so you'd want +mana gear rather than being a DE if mana is an issue).

With that said, I'm an Ogre SK and I don't remember going through serious mana issues at any point, though I did most of my leveling with an enchanter admittedly :D A slightly larger mana pool gives you a tad bit more of autonomy when soloing, but really a tad, and is that little extra mana really offsetting the extra DPS & HPs you'd have as an Ogre for the same soloing purpose? I'm not so sure.

In groups, the point is moot because as long as you have Breeze/C1/C2/bard song according to your level, you should not be running oom even if the group is killing very fast. One SV per mob is enough between 2 DCs at pull and you can go on keeping aggro with DC only after that, and DC costs virtually nothing. Possibly, at lower levels when fighting fleeing mobs you might need a small break eventually to med up that mana lost from casting engulfing or so, but that's solved in your 40's with the BE gauntlets (which become less often used once you get 54ish and have C2 around).

TL;DR: If you want mana, get a clarity, don't be a Dark Elf.
I understand why people would want to play a Dark Elf for a SK. It's by far the most fitting race from a RP perspective, Dark elves look awesome and you're not a dumb fatty. But don't pretend it's for the stats, please. Having 2000 or 2300 mana Ogre vs DE at lvl 60 doesn't change shit, it's all about mana regen and smartly consuming it :)

ketzerei84
07-17-2014, 08:16 PM
If not Iksar. You're wrong.

If class can be Iksar, it should be iksar.

^ This

Bruno
07-18-2014, 08:26 AM
I like dark elf for SK, they actually have a mana pool.

It's my favorite SK as well.

Rhambuk
07-18-2014, 11:49 AM
dark elves are so common though :(

Lojik
07-19-2014, 03:21 PM
Human

Ennewi
07-19-2014, 10:23 PM
Human

Seconded. Two starting cities to choose from, well-rounded base stats and passable faction for a good majority of zones/quests.
But imo it all boils down to greenmist vs. the lunging, full-swing 2hs attack animation.

Cecily
07-20-2014, 01:25 PM
Good races can't be SKs.

gummab
07-26-2014, 02:16 AM
I agree to say that at lower levels it might make a little difference (though then again at lower levels the mana return per INT point is less I believe, so you'd want +mana gear rather than being a DE if mana is an issue).

With that said, I'm an Ogre SK and I don't remember going through serious mana issues at any point, though I did most of my leveling with an enchanter admittedly :D A slightly larger mana pool gives you a tad bit more of autonomy when soloing, but really a tad, and is that little extra mana really offsetting the extra DPS & HPs you'd have as an Ogre for the same soloing purpose? I'm not so sure.

In groups, the point is moot because as long as you have Breeze/C1/C2/bard song according to your level, you should not be running oom even if the group is killing very fast. One SV per mob is enough between 2 DCs at pull and you can go on keeping aggro with DC only after that, and DC costs virtually nothing. Possibly, at lower levels when fighting fleeing mobs you might need a small break eventually to med up that mana lost from casting engulfing or so, but that's solved in your 40's with the BE gauntlets (which become less often used once you get 54ish and have C2 around).

TL;DR: If you want mana, get a clarity, don't be a Dark Elf.
I understand why people would want to play a Dark Elf for a SK. It's by far the most fitting race from a RP perspective, Dark elves look awesome and you're not a dumb fatty. But don't pretend it's for the stats, please. Having 2000 or 2300 mana Ogre vs DE at lvl 60 doesn't change shit, it's all about mana regen and smartly consuming it :)

Delete and roll a troll,you know you want to

no chewie dont
07-26-2014, 09:23 PM
whichever one looks best in ec tunnel nameeeeen

Xer0
07-27-2014, 06:00 PM
best racial perk.

Disagree. If your defensive stats and AC are high enough, how often do you get stunned from the front? once every 10 minutes? So once every ten minutes you've saved yourself the trouble of not being able to swing for 4 whole seconds.

How about regen.

Active 100% of the time

Valuable outside of combat and in combat alike.

Reduces downtime by half, or more.

just sayin. Troll or iksar FTW.

Though my first choice on Blue was Dark elf; Don't have to worry about tight spaces, high int, and sweet sweet skull helm graphics.

Nogdar
07-28-2014, 04:28 AM
@Xer0, we all agree that regen is a nice perk and that it will cut downtime big time, which is nice with 68% exp malus isn't it. Clearly leveling wise, iksars and trolls have that edge especially since ogres are close behind exp-malus wise.

However, in an end-game/raid setting, regen hardly serves any purpose compared to ability to land FD if you're pulling, or your spells if your tanking, without being interrupted.

holsteinrx7
09-09-2014, 03:33 AM
trolls have -20sv fire, its not on the wiki. i learned the hard way.

id recommend ogre for grouping, iksar for solo. iksar has a much easier time getting geared up/racial epic and some tricks to come in vel.

ogre is good now.

Brut
09-09-2014, 09:09 AM
Ogre is best forever.*

Gurbuuk
09-09-2014, 11:19 AM
Trolls are the evilest of the (evil) SK. And so, the right race is Troll. nuff' said.

qwerty
09-19-2014, 06:51 PM
Play what you want. Im an Ikky SK and i will say the road is tough. i wouldnt change though because its the class/race combo I've always wanted to play. come velious all SKs will be little skeletons running around anyways.

what do sks get in velious that make them perma skele?

Issar
09-20-2014, 01:32 AM
what do sks get in velious that make them perma skele?

This spell: Shroud of Undeath (http://wiki.project1999.com/Shroud_of_Undeath)

qwerty
09-21-2014, 08:42 PM
yah but this is during chardok revamp in velious.... when they release velious on project99 I don't think chardok will be redone will it?

Pheer
09-21-2014, 08:49 PM
yah but this is during chardok revamp in velious.... when they release velious on project99 I don't think chardok will be redone will it?

Nope, it wont. SKs in raid guilds capable of killing Yelinak could possibly pick up a soul defiler though.

http://wiki.project1999.com/Soul_Defiler