Forming group for Guardian Wurms

[TrendyDru]

forget it.

[Mongaloid1612]

Lul'ed So hard to this

[Clark]

Lul'ed So hard to this

[Daldolma]

Lul'ed So hard to this

[Lazie]

"Torpor on reserve" translates to...Come help me get Torpor so I can bail before your spells drop guys!

[Mongaloid1612]

Hey guys help me get a tear... Did somone see that shammy ninja loot a tear? haha Trendy good ole boy Gratz on that epic thou right?

[Clark]

Torpor is on reserve.

http://i.imgur.com/GAlaSoi.jpg

[zanderklocke]

Torpor is on reserve. Everything else is free roll.

This isn't the most enticing offer.

[Troubled]

Lul'ed So hard to this

[Pullyn]

Lol'd.

[Yinikren]

Looking for people to do a General kill in Kithicor. Pouch and EoN on reserve, everything else is up for rolls.

[Juevento]

Looking for people to do a General kill in Kithicor. Pouch and EoN on reserve, everything else is up for rolls.

Fail troll Cazic Quill worth more than pouch and EoN is a piece of shit.

[Daldaen]

Not reserving Quill? I'd want Quill reserved over EoN for sure.

Also... You will never get a group to go when you claim the single spell that is worth atleast 2x the next closest spell. Especially when these mobs are bad exp and spells are the only reason to do them.

Just join a guild, slay some dragons, hope Torpor drops from those. You'll have better luck doing that.

[Messianic]

Are there any other drops even worth 5% of what torpor is?

[Daldaen]

VoG, Malo, EoT, Pox, Bane

Those are all 15k-30k spells.

Then you have Torpor worth 90k.

[Wildino]

How many messages you got ?

Or did someone offered you a copy of Torpor ?

[TrendyDru]

Didn't know this was RNF. I've had a few people say they're interested in going. I don't understand what peoples issue is. I'm not saying "I'm taking all the loot to afford Torpor" There are still several spells worth quite a bit of money. I am doing the work in trying to get people together to get the spell. It's not charity. If I wanted to be given Torpor I would sit in EC and ask for it for free.

The attitude on P99 is greedy as fuck. Everyone would rather buy their level 1 cleric an epic than actually pass on something thats CLASS SPECIFIC. Apparently the forums are only good for trolling while you're taking a shit.

[iruinedyourday]

Didn't know this was RNF. I've had a few people say they're interested in going. I don't understand what peoples issue is. I'm not saying "I'm taking all the loot to afford Torpor" There are still several spells worth quite a bit of money. I am doing the work in trying to get people together to get the spell. It's not charity. If I wanted to be given Torpor I would sit in EC and ask for it for free.

The attitude on P99 is greedy as fuck. Everyone would rather buy their level 1 cleric an epic than actually pass on something thats CLASS SPECIFIC. Apparently the forums are only good for trolling while you're taking a shit.

Dude none here is greedy except the guy saying the 100k fair priced spell because shaman can solo nameds, is on reserve.

That shit goes for lots of dkp to people who work hard for it so it's a little creepy to say it's on reserve is all.

People you accused of trolling you on your stream last night were trying to help you find a solution and you responded by yelling at them. So yea.. Maybe stop calling p99ers greedy when they 9/10 times will come running to help get eachother get epics when that 72+ hour named spawns.

Just sayin.

[Mongaloid1612]

Lol no you are saying that because you are putting together a grp you deserve a 90k spell if it drops, But you cannot do these mobs alone you need the main people in a grp so why would you deserve reserve on it? your fucking high sir /Ran 1000 enjoy it

[Daldaen]

What you're asking is this:

I need assistance from a tank, a cleric, An enchanter, and DPS.

So what exactly are you doing to earn your spell here? You don't have Torpor, so you aren't healing. You're asking for a chanter, so they are hasting and their slow is more than enough for these mobs. Shaman DPS is 'meh' at best.

And... You're saying that the top value drop, by a large margin I might add, is claimed by yourself for... What? The effort of setting up a group?

It was said in your epic thread, and it's been said here. If you want help to the extent you're asking either:

A. Agree to roll on the best drop available and don't state outright "Claimed cause Shaman"
B. Join a guild to do this with.

It may not be charity, but you're asking for the biggest piece of the pie guaranteed to you (assuming it drops), when in actuality your role in the group is the most negligible.

Sorry if that's harsh :/.

[Mongaloid1612]

Hahaha he says Greedy didnt somone try and help him with his epic and then he went and skurried over to ninja loot a tear ? sounds kinda greedy even thou they didnt care thats pretty greedy Trendy

[Erydan Ouragan]

Didn't know this was RNF. I've had a few people say they're interested in going. I don't understand what peoples issue is. I'm not saying "I'm taking all the loot to afford Torpor" There are still several spells worth quite a bit of money. I am doing the work in trying to get people together to get the spell. It's not charity. If I wanted to be given Torpor I would sit in EC and ask for it for free.

The attitude on P99 is greedy as fuck. Everyone would rather buy their level 1 cleric an epic than actually pass on something thats CLASS SPECIFIC. Apparently the forums are only good for trolling while you're taking a shit.

Here's a little story.

When i was around lvl 30 i was in upper guk with someone from my guild and other randoms. I didn't even know the guildie, was grouping with him for the first time.

Anyways, RBF drops. As i have a dragoon dirk in my range slot, i'd have rolled on it, but then the guildie warrior said "Can i have it? I Need the resists."

Nobody objected, and i passed, cause you know, he seemed like he wanted to have it and it's a low level item, so who cares really?

2 weeks later, my guild leader informs me that the guy left the game because he felt EQ was getting in the way of his RL.

Now RBF is a 500-600p item, but the principle remains that:

If you ask me to join your group and torpor drops, i'm gonna roll on it because:

I don't know you.
You're not my friend.
I don't know if you're still gonna be online next week.

Get it?

[BurgyK]

Looking to farm guardian wurms, sham, have torpor, all spells /ran 1000. PST

[stakha]

I thoughht this was a joke thread at first, now I realize he was serious.

[Juevento]

Burgy is good peoples! I'd run it with yah but at work atm.

[TrendyDru]

If I reserve a spell, and I'm making the group I have the right to do so, yes? If you don't like the parameters then you are welcome to not join. I'm not twisting anyones arm. Still having several decently priced spells that drop is not "coming out for nothing" so honestly I don't see the issue in it.

Making a thread about forming a group to farm spells and saying Torpor is on reserve should not result in this much backlash. I could see if Torpor was literally the only valued item that drops off them. But it's not.

Be mad if you want, I could really care less. And honestly give it a rest with the Tear. it wasn't ninja looted.

[iruinedyourday]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbvTt9sAlo4

[Bboboo]

Item claiming is more of a modern MMO thing.

Not so much here. There's so much more time and effort put into getting said item not to mention that currency is actually used for something in Everquest.

[Cecily]

http://i.imgur.com/GAlaSoi.jpg

[evilkorn]

In my younger days, I was making my way down to Crypt in a PUG. At the door I pick, the Guardian drops Naltron's Mark. Our cleric says he doesn't have it, because he was using single target symbols on the tank and chanter we had no reason to not believe him, so we all agreed to give it to him. He mems the spell and casts it, woot, nice, cool, grats. Then we get to the Emp door, obviously clearing the ph's, and he comes down with a case of the gotta gos. He doesn't help us clear back up, just leaves us stuck and gates out. So we ended up just calling train and taking up whatever respawns we get on the way.

It's a pretty good way to become jaded to any NBG looting in a PUG setting.

[Yinikren]

Fail troll Cazic Quill worth more than pouch and EoN is a piece of shit.

I just wanted my SK to put away his epic and look like a samurai. Omg.

[Shannacore]

inb4 R&F

[TrendyDru]

just grab a buddy or two and resume cliff golems like you did that one night

That was my original plan, but according to Alla, cliff golems don't have the chance to drop Torpor. So someone recommended I form a group for Guardian Wurms in skyfire.

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/npc.html?id=4118

[TrendyDru]

inb4 R&F

about 6 hours too late.

[Uuruk]

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/000/025/lol_internet.gif

[TrendyDru]

Alla's data doesn't apply to p99 in a lot of cases, just a heads up. They go by the current live timeline not classic/kunark era. Cliff Golems have the random chance to drop any of the high level spells unless recently noted in one of this years patches.

If that's the case I will do that instead.

[applesauce25r624]

forget it.

nope. thread added to my sig

[iruinedyourday]

nope. thread added to my sig

omg I havent even had a chance to read the bard kiting one yet but that huge gif made me lol

[Daldolma]

putting together fungi king group, need tank, puller, cleric, enchanter, DPS. tunic reserved, all other loot up for rolls

[Kaym]

Just farm the platinum... Only take a couple weeks with your 12 hour shifts.

[Uuruk]

putting together fungi king group, need tank, puller, cleric, enchanter, DPS. tunic reserved, all other loot up for rolls

[blondeattk]

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The attitude on P99 is greedy Everyone would rather buy their level 1 cleric an epic than actually pass on something thats CLASS SPECIFIC.

agree.

However there is a large turnover of players on this server. eg folk i lvled my mian with back in autumn(on friends list) 60% havent logged in since jan. DOnt just think thats cos i scared em away :)

I think using /dice all the time is crude, but its at one lvl it works.

imo, the best method is have mainlooter, who sells ALL drosp and splits loot....eg takes names of all there and gives em pp at later date. However this isnt really viable on PUG. Needs certain lvl of trust and contactability. eg friends or guild grp.

Unless you can do a G wurm grp on regular basis..... but tbh i dont think you are commited to other peeps wellbeing on this issue? your really featehrin your own nest.

[Cecily]

There's absolutely no incentive for anyone to pass on a 90k drop for someone who isn't a VERY close friend or guildie. Is that greedy? Maybe, but I don't play this game to gear up randoms.

[Decad]

The attitude on P99 is greedy as fuck. Everyone would rather buy their level 1 cleric an epic than actually pass on something thats CLASS SPECIFIC. Apparently the forums are only good for trolling while you're taking a shit.

You yourself are greedy as fuck mister. Get a clue. Asking people to help you get a 90k-100k item for their time when their drops are like 20% of what you expecting. Now WHO is greedy here?

And lots of other greedy things you have done that I am sure many knows.

Do you really want us to spell it out here to enhance your reputation?=)

[Clark]

There's absolutely no incentive for anyone to pass on a 90k drop for someone who isn't a VERY close friend or guildie. Is that greedy? Maybe, but I don't play this game to gear up randoms.

[Rathel]

Looking to farm guardian wurms, sham, have torpor, all spells /ran 1000. PST


Hail the King!

[Cookiefist]

What we need here is spell stamps so everyone can be happy!

[fastboy21]

However there is a large turnover of players on this server. .


Not exactly. There is a higher turn over of characters ; not players. Most of the folks you met while leveling up were playing alts...and they are now on other alts. And, they have played the game through this cycle a dozen times.

There are so many alts that the distinction between "alt" and "main" that we used on live no longer applies here. That's the difference. There is no such thing as "passing for mains" on a server that most "mains" are decked out in planar/vp gear or the player has so many "alts" that he really has no "main."

New people here don't get this because they are importing their old ideas from live to p99...years after launch and off timeline. What new players perceive as greed is usually their approach to the gameplay through the lens of standards from live that don't apply on P99.

P99 is not a cloned and resurrected live server (maybe it once was back at launch, but so few players were here then that it was hardly ever "like live" for other reasons). P99 is a different animal than the EQ you remember. Don't get me wrong, I love p99; but anyone coming here expecting play and community to be like it was on live is bound to misinterpret the culture here as greedy. In many ways, p99 succeeds because it is like live in some regards...but not when it comes to the old distinction between mains and alts.

[Messianic]

Let's look at this from a pure value standpoint:

VoG, Malo, EoT, Pox, Bane

Those are all 15k-30k spells.

Then you have Torpor worth 90k.

So, let's say all 6 of these spells have an equal likelihood of dropping. If we weight their value as 1/6 each times their value:

15k for the misc spells other than Torpor:

0.167 * 90
/
[5 (0.167 * 15) + (0.167 * 90)]

Torpor represents 54% of the value of the goal of the group


30k for the misc spells other than Torpor:

0.167 * 90
/
[5 (0.167 * 30) + (0.167 * 90)]

Torpor represents 30% of the value of the goal of the group

So I don't think that's too horribly greedy, on those ranges of value provided by Dald. I've never dealt with those spells in trade, so I'm taking his estimates for now.

But it is greedy. And that's where you're acting like an ass.

The attitude on P99 is greedy as fuck.

Everyone here is greedy. That's not the problem. The problem is folks trolling a thread and you giving them ammo by acting all pissed off and self-righteous.

The other issue is creating a PUG with the express purpose of getting you an elite, massively valuable item which is tradeable. 90k is 90k, and 90k to someone else is just as subjectively valuable in gearing them up as Torpor is to you. Even if my monk was grouped in KC and Tstaff dropped, I would prefer it be sold and the money split amongst the group unless you're among people you know or everyone is completely OK with class-specific deference. I think that's how all loot should be handled by default.

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

There's absolutely no incentive for anyone to pass on a 90k drop for someone who isn't a VERY close friend or guildie. Is that greedy? Maybe, but I don't play this game to gear up randoms.

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

Also, DOGPILE.

I like your stream and your beard. Keep it up!

[iruinedyourday]

The server is not greedy, at all. Everyone here that disagree's with NBG all have fair balanced ways, for everyone to get the loot instead of just one person. There is not a single thing greedy about the comments on this thread.

You're seriously going to call a warrior greedy - because he wants to sell an item that's worth 100k? pffffft get outa here.

IMO greed before need. Its not greed, its just fair. need before greed is stupid, who gives a shit, just play the game and when you get lucky u get lucky. We're all here on one big nerd fantasy quest so lets play it together and help everyone out - not just the person who thinks that its not greedy if it serves their purposes.

You're either going to get lucky being one of the 6 classes that can need the item, and everyone secretly will be grinding thier teeth at you irl.. or you can get lucky and be one of the 6 that win a roll and everyone will be like totally stoked for you when its an item you can use!

EQ has an economy that works, so its fair for everyone to want to play the game and work for thier gear.

When something of high value drops, whether it can be equppied by 1 person or not, it is of high value to everyone. There isn't just one single class in EQ that has high value items for sale in EC, all of them do.

Play a bard and you'll get shit you want as a drop like 1% of the time - yet still get like all the cash to get all the gears, that's fair. You should know, if you're going to be leveling a shaman to 60 - you should start saving for that spell at 40. If you didnt, well congrats! you're level 60! Now enjoy the world and start getting sweet loot and fucking around int he tunnel selling shit or amasing DKP to get one with a guild you've helped loot 30+ people up over the last month.

When you want that sick level 60 loot - work for it, help people, struggle, play the game and get it 1 month from now, 2 months from now.

But, then again to each thier own, some people are like stoked that they can say i got topr when i was 1 blue into 60 on my first toon cus lol!

who gives a shit, there are people who have bronze armor out there that love this game, just enjoy it and work at it and start helping other people and yadayadayada you'll get there.

[Clark]

IMO greed before need. Its not greed, its just fair.

[TrendyDru]

You yourself are greedy as fuck mister. Get a clue. Asking people to help you get a 90k-100k item for their time when their drops are like 20% of what you expecting. Now WHO is greedy here?

And lots of other greedy things you have done that I am sure many knows.

Do you really want us to spell it out here to enhance your reputation?=)

Lol i know i do shady shit all the time right? huehuehue. I'm fine with my in-game reputation. The ratio of people I come across who like me vs the dickbutt trolls that talk shit and make shit up to make me look bad is like 30:1 so i'm good with those numbers.

My forum reputation I could really give a shit less. There are so many trolls on the forums who completely annihilate any thread with the stupidest shit. Clearly the forums aren't the place to look for people to play with in game.

Since I'm "selfish" and "robbing people" Replying to this thread is a waste of time. So GL guys.

[iruinedyourday]

call everyone greedy = OK

get called greedy = everyone is a shit troll looser

I get it! lmao

[TrendyDru]

call everyone greedy = OK

get called greedy = everyone is a shit troll looser

I get it! lmao

I get called greedy because I was trying to form up a group to farm for a spell that I need.. With other drops that sell for 15-30k+

k

[iruinedyourday]

I get called greedy because I was trying to form up a group to farm for a spell that I need.. With other drops that sell for 15-30k+

k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbvTt9sAlo4

[Mongaloid1612]

And to think this post almost went unnoticed till i Lul'ed so hard haha

[captnamazing]

My perception of NBG definitely has shifted since coming to this server. Everyone can use a fucking upgrade. Dude PM'd me in game asking for me to tank for him, only exception Torpor was off limits. Lmfao... I could use that spell to pay for part of my epic!

[Ashintar]

7 pages of "this guy is an asshole..."

Why??

He stated his intentions up front and wasn't trying to sneak in any underhanded loot rules at the last minute... if you didn't want to help him then say "no" or move on without responding at all... There is no reason for you to flex your forum might and crucify him for directly stating his intentions. If you don’t agree smile at the post and move on.

[indiscriminate_hater]

7 pages of "this guy is an asshole..."

Why??

He stated his intentions up front and wasn't trying to sneak in any underhanded loot rules at the last minute... if you didn't want to help him then say "no" or move on without responding at all... There is no reason for you to flex your forum might and crucify him for directly stating his intentions. If you don’t agree smile at the post and move on.

Gotta level up on that forum quest dog

[Atalya]

I dont have an issue with him claiming something up front. 99% of people that see it will be like fuck you.. I had a problem when he asked me (at level 56) to help him get to NG in OS (So he could solo it at 56???) and TWICE (in the span of 10 minutes)when i got low on health rather than say "Hey i'm OOM or Hey i'm gating FD" he just straight up gated mid fight leaving me at 5% to either slip a FD in between nukes or die . You dont pull shit like that on people you ASK TO HELP YOU...

[iruinedyourday]

7 pages of "this guy is an asshole..."

Why??

He stated his intentions up front and wasn't trying to sneak in any underhanded loot rules at the last minute... if you didn't want to help him then say "no" or move on without responding at all... There is no reason for you to flex your forum might and crucify him for directly stating his intentions. If you don’t agree smile at the post and move on.

we all did move on, until mangaloid lul'd.... then everyone couldnt help but bwa haha the post.. say what you will but everyone *Tried* to take the highroad... it was just damn near impossible :D

..and really its not this guy is an asshole, its a lot of lol's and do something different and why.. but it sure is, everyone is greedy as fuck coming back from that direction though. so meh.

Gotta level up on that forum quest dog

also fire giant inc, unless that title is reserved :/

[Kaym]

I dont have an issue with him claiming something up front. 99% of people that see it will be like fuck you.. I had a problem when he asked me (at level 56) to help him get to NG in OS (So he could solo it at 56???) and TWICE (in the span of 10 minutes)when i got low on health rather than say "Hey i'm OOM or Hey i'm gating FD" he just straight up gated mid fight leaving me at 5% to either slip a FD in between nukes or die . You dont pull shit like that on people you ASK TO HELP YOU...

Can confirm, saw it on stream. Laughed hard.

[fahlen]

One thing he could have done instead of just outright calling dibs on it, is to give himself a small bonus to rolls instead (for Torpor roll only). For instance he could simply add say, +10 or +15 to his roll when he randoms. Obviously this would have to be agreed on by all parties involved, and screenshots proving this on his part. +10 or so to his /random is enough to give himself a fair edge, without anyone else feel like they're getting screwed. Just a thought.

[Daldolma]

or he could just fucking farm until he saves up enough plat to buy what he wants like everyone else, including the people he's trying to take torpor rolls away from

[fahlen]

or he could just fucking farm until he saves up enough plat to buy what he wants like everyone else, including the people he's trying to take torpor rolls away from

Yeah, agreed. I'm in the same process right now. 90k is not that bad of a farm, especially as a shaman.

[Tewaz]

This thread delivers.

[Messianic]

People who are thin skinned shouldn't post stuff on the internet. Can't take criticism obv

[Clark]

or he could just fucking farm until he saves up enough plat to buy what he wants like everyone else, including the people he's trying to take torpor rolls away from

[Skew]

WTS Torpor 100k