Which guild do I join? (An intro for new players or the cognitively disabled)

[hivemind]

Nihilum is absolutely the best option for newcomers to red. Especially newcomers from blue. What do you even consider to be the options at this point? Nihilum... or... Azrael?

If you want loot, join Nihilum (they kill 90-100% of the end game bosses, and have killed close to that percentage for the majority of the server's history). Azrael, their main competition, is particularly weak or otherwise disinterested in the server currently making Nihilum's stranglehold on the server seem even more predictable looking forward. Coming from a blue server (raider) I imagine that you can appreciate the promise of 90-100% of dragon kills week after week, compared to whatever sort of chance you would have on the blue server with 4x as many people and who knows how many other guilds to compete with. I honestly have no idea what % of bosses the "top" guild(s) kill week after week, but I would assume under 90-100%. I have no idea though, since I have never had a character on that server.

If you don't want loot, then there is reason to consider other guilds. It should be noted that PVP at 56+ is much more limited and far less spontaneous than pvp at any other level bracket, largely because the vast majority of PVP end game is PVE motivated, and all bosses die over the course of basically 2 days, leaving roughly 5 days of sparse PVP (at best). Far from spontaneous... much more contrived than any other type of PVP you could hope to encounter in Everquest. The winners of pvp at 60, whichever tag they may bear, walk away with a weeks worth of dragon loot after 1-2 battles (typically) of "Mass" PVP, instead of just simple coin loot. In this sense, winning in PVP is very similar to winning in PVE. So if you want to join a guild for PVP (ie PVE), join Nihilum.

You might have friends in guilds, and you'll want to join a guild so you can play with your group of friends. Statistically speaking, if you're joining a guild for this reason you are probably joining Nihilum because they comprise the majority share of the server. But if you primarily want to play with friends, then that would be a potential (albeit statistically unlikely) reason to join a guild other than Nihilum.

But if you are joining a guild primarily to acquire exp (quantity), loot (quantity/quality), connections/friends (quantity), then you are objectively better off joining Nihilum. They are currently the most dominant guild on the server, historically the most dominant guild on server, and barring some sort of big change--they are going to be the most dominant guild going into velious. There is a severe lack of competition on this server both now and historically.

Pras red99.

[Buhbuh]

Yup as this clearly show's Nihilum is the best guild to join, all you have to set aside is your pride and self-respect!

yep, because that's what people concern themselves with in a video game. rather than just playing it because it's a video game and they enjoy it, people here deeply ponder questions of integrity and self-respect/ how this game will reflect on their journey through life outside of the game.

you are such a tool

[hivemind]

Yup as this clearly show's Nihilum is the best guild to join, all you have to set aside is your pride and self-respect!

A little critical thinking exercise. What percentage of the server's population do you imagine to be: unemployed, clinically depressed, overweight, living with their parents, or struggling to keep their electricity on? Once you have an estimate of that, what percentage of that population do you think has pride or self-respect to begin with?

Now, once you have done both of those things--what percentage of the server do you think is in Nihilum? Does this number coincide, in any way, with your first two calculations? Keep me updated.

[LulzSect]

tldr join nilly if you are a beta obese

[hivemind]

Word's are good but I prefer video evidence...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qeyg...ature=youtu.be

I enjoy a good cinema which is why I was disappointed when I clicked the link to this video and saw that it was removed :/

[Azure]

Is hivemind tomatoking or something like that?

[hivemind]

Is hivemind tomatoking or something like that?

Even I could not predict how fitting of a name Hivemind was. But hearing people accuse me of being a dozen other people certainly makes me laugh. Especially when I haven't even heard of them.

Non-factors.

[hivemind]

Nihilum, Clearly a choice for straight laced honorable player's...

http://youtu.be/Ut1fdpvZPXE

Man I have already seen this video, Sektorssxxyywwzz showing everyone that he RMTed and one of the many people he bought shit from was Nizzar. Doesn't he even explain in that video that Nizzar needed to pay his electricity bill? I'm pretty sure this video is what made me privy to that information in the first place.

As I already said man, maybe YOU are too immersed in the elf sim if you cannot understand why someone as noble as the Duke would bother selling some sim loots to keep his electricity (ie computer) running. I feel like I shouldn't have to explain this... especially with the parenthetical statement at the end of the last sentence... but how on earth do you expect the guy to continue RMTing if his electricity is shut off?!

Please stop trying to derail my thread by posting tangential movies that I have already seen and made reference to. My original post paints the clearest picture possible as to why Nihilum is objectively speaking pretty much the ONLY option as far as guilds to join on red99. Take a seat, nerd.

[Mac Drettj]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDHz7qM-2rU

[Fame]

hivemind still a mystery from my past too, really curious about him

[Obwin]

Hivemind chatted me up while 1 v 6 ing a group + oor heals in highkeep. Confirmed interest piqued.

[Obwin]

Also accurate writeup of current guild situation. If you don't want to raid and don't want to take part in anti-nilly circle jerk / dick pic lols there really isn't a guild for you.

[Obwin]

Your right much better to take Strydur's dick in your ass and get talked too like a prison bitch because you didn't port his alt in a totally different guild.

Guess you have reading comprehension problem...my point is if you don't want to join nilly (commit to raiding regularly) your best option is unguilded.

[hivemind]

Hivemind chatted me up while 1 v 6 ing a group + oor heals in highkeep. Confirmed interest piqued.

Pretty sure I ended up getting banned for PVPing that group of people in HHK, though I've been waiting for a week+ at this point to actually hear back as to why I'm banned. Turns out that I'm not the only thing shrouded in mystery on this server.

[Rellapse40]

stay banned

[hivemind]

stay banned

You don't have to make your desires explicit to me. I know you will lose out on precious opportunities to flirt with me on the forums once I'm no longer banned in game. I just wish you weren't always so possessive about me. We aren't dating, and you acting so clingy is starting to turn me off.

[Grimjaw]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeygLjscZJs&feature=youtu.be

^ That's Nihilum, and this is Azrael: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_fuZE_K9PQ

[hivemind]

^ That's Nihilum, and this is Azrael: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_fuZE_K9PQ

I have already seen all of these videos. You guys need to stop relying on sensationalized clips of media as evidence or guidance as to which guild you should be joining. It's best to just accept the facts and follow the logic.

[Grimjaw]

I wasn't showing you. I was showing all of the new players or the cognitively disabled that you are directing to this thread

[mikemandella]

Lol if you have to ask.. just join Nihlium...

Welcome Baby

- Oppressor

[hivemind]

I wasn't showing you. I was showing all of the new players or the cognitively disabled that you are directing to this thread

Thanks, and very valid point. I had actually considered this while posting, but I think I didn't give enough of a shit at the time. Thanks for contributing something useful to the thread (no sarcasm).

[heartbrand]

You're sick cast

[hivemind]

You're sick cast

Please read the OP good sir. Or are you already tagged Nihilum? Good boy, now move along and make room for the rest of the newbs and cognitively disabled.

[heartbrand]

How'd you know I was talking about you Matt?

[Gaffin 7.0]

is cast rly alive i dont read forums or aimchat anymore

[hivemind]

How'd you know I was talking about you Matt?

Is Matt the name of your father? Go to bed, son. I mean, go read your son a bedtime story.

[Xantille]

A little critical thinking exercise. What percentage of the server's population do you imagine to be: unemployed, clinically depressed, overweight, living with their parents, or struggling to keep their electricity on? Once you have an estimate of that, what percentage of that population do you think has pride or self-respect to begin with?

Now, once you have done both of those things--what percentage of the server do you think is in Nihilum? Does this number coincide, in any way, with your first two calculations? Keep me updated.

chortled @ dis

[Tassador]

Nilly should split in half for server health reasons.

[Goobles]

Or you could join Uprising and not be surrounded by sociopaths

[Mac Drettj]

uprising and ensidia are just renamed azrael split in half

no change, new name

[Gaffin 7.0]

^^

[heartbrand]

Or you could join Uprising and not be surrounded by sociopaths

Calls people sociopaths / quits guild over spending too much dkp on insignia protector

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

Spent most of my time on this server in Uprising and have actually never been recruited for Azrael. In fact, when Uprising first started doing low level xp sessions we would probably get more buffs from random nihi members than Az (with the exception of Mafakaa and Badger).

I'm not up to date on who owns what characters but Uprising has always been neutral despite what people are saying.

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[Gaffin 7.0]

Spent most of my time on this server in Uprising and have actually never been recruited for Azrael. In fact, when Uprising first started doing low level xp sessions we would probably get more buffs from random nihi members than Az (with the exception of Mafakaa and Badger).

I'm not up to date on who owns what characters but Uprising has always been neutral despite what people are saying.

Themoreyouknow.gif

You are a idiot.

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

You are *an addict.

[Gaffin 7.0]

Naw

[hivemind]

You are *an addict.

Naw

Come on guys, let's keep this thread on topic. Don't want it to get sidetracked and turn into some sort of Rant and Flame... !!!

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

Naw

[Tewaz]

I love Hivemind making a thread about this topic.

He has spent the past month griefing low level blue players in cloth that don't have a prayer of landing a spell on him.

You taught us all that this server is all about the loot. Thank you.

[derpcake]

I liked him beter before he was banned, he posted less.

[hivemind]

I liked him beter before he was banned, he posted less.

Pretty sure I'm permabanned, so sorry to disappoint you.

[derpcake]

Its ok, I'm sure your forum persona is an acquired taste.