Am I Canni dancing wrong?

[DinoTriz]

I'm a young, inexperienced shaman and I am curious if I am canni dancing incorrectly.

From what I read, the process is simple. Sit down and wait for hp/mana tick, stand up and cast Canni, and sit down.

But I hear that the uptick of hp/mana happens once ever 6 seconds? It seems to happen much sooner for me. :confused:

I wait about 2 seconds and my hp and mana both jump up between 1 - 3%.

Am I not waiting long enough?

[Daldaen]

This server has two ticks.

Tick 1 will be your mana regen from Meditate
Tick 2 will reduce your mana by a single point (this is where the client and the server synch up)

If you cast inbetween Tick 1 and Tick 2, you will lose the mana you regained from meditating. You need to wait until Tick 2 goes, then you can stand and cast.

Sometimes those two ticks are a second apart somtimes they are 5 seconds. I'm not quite sure what exactly influences that.

Basically you need to wait for that 1 mana tick to happen. Which means you need your total mana pool (value) displayed to properly do it on this server.

[Ele]

This has to do with the Titanium client having a larger calculated tick than the server-side tick, the small tic you see(or even reduction in mana) is the server syncing up with the client. Wait for the smaller update/tick, then canni.

[DinoTriz]

Ah, this makes much more sense.

Thanks, guys!

[blondeattk]

minor derail to thread.....

can someone post a macro of how to add a clicky to cannidance plz?

saw someone using gobbo earin mixed with canni, recently....

am unclear how you put clicky items into the macro......

ofcourse this begs the question, can u activate said earing (from macro) without it being worn.
I know bards use macros to swop instruments, but never looked into this, in any depth.

thanks)

nm- dont need to swop anything.....

http://wiki.project1999.com/Black_Fur_Boots :)

[blondeattk]

so for shms of 24+ lvl who havent done the epic quest yet (or started it)

http://wiki.project1999.com/Spyglass

Could be used in above macro.

btw no reason not to start epic @29. IF you have friends to help, you could have clicky boots by lvl 30. Even with pickup grps, its doable by 40.

[Daldaen]

There is no macro command to activate a clicky or move an item. Not without hacking.

People manually Canni dance when using the instant clicky GCD exploit.

[blondeattk]

There is no macro command to activate a clicky or move an item. Not without hacking.

People manually Canni dance when using the instant clicky GCD exploit.

bollocks!

ive seen number of people spamming clickies. too fast to be manualy done.

mana stones mostly.....

will try and ask some folk ingame.

[Tecmos Deception]

ive seen number of people spamming clickies. too fast to be manualy done.


http://www.brainbashers.com/10seconds.asp

It's pretty easy to click a mouse 6+ times per second just holding it how you normally would. Clickies don't seem to activate more than a few times per second though, no matter how fast you click them, at least not for me. When I spam my manastone I get as many "you can't use that ability yet" messages as I do winces.

[Daldaen]

Spamming and tying an item clicky into a hotkey that casts a spell and sits down is not doable. Is what I was saying.

People may use fancy mouse/keyboard/autofire programs to spam click Manastones. But that's really unnecessary, just spam click it.

[blondeattk]

theres some lvl 60s in taken and ateam ive seen do this, will try and get theinfo out of them.....

am 90% certain they werent manually clicking them, certainly the shm was alternating between a clicky and canni....was automated in some fashion.

[baalzy]

There are numerous programs that can be used to perform the action you're talking about. I think they're a fairly gray area, but because it's possible to put a clicky in a slot activated number slot you can then use them to do what you're describing. I won't go into detail because I don't know exactly where the line is though.

[Valdarious]

Just drag the square where you have the item in to your hotbar and assign that spot of the hotbar to a key on the board. Assign those two to Q and E and just take your pointing finger and ring finger and alternate them.
That is if this is what you are referring too anyway. I used to do this with my jboots on live, just run around clicking a key and not the mouse.

[blondeattk]

That's easy and and in no way in violation of the EULA, as the reply above seems to assume.

Put your clicky item in a top slot in your inventory.
Left-click (IIRC) said item long enough for a 'copy' to attach to your cursor (like when you make a Hotkey for a combat ability.
Drop into a slot on your hotkey bank.

You already have your spellcasting macro set up, I assume?

Let's assume your spellcasting macro is in slot #3, and your clicky is in slot #4.

Go to Options, find 'Alternate key' for slot #4, type in '3'.

Now, when you press '3', you automatically press '4' as well.

I have Kick and an instant-clicky haste item linked that way, and it works works fine. Not sure if it will work with 'non-instant' clickies though, but if it doesn't, just put in a /pause XX line as the first line of your spellcasting macro, where XX is the cast time of your clicky times 12 (at least >10, might have to experiement a bit to get it right).

found here:

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=1&mid=1147445312152631179

might be more elegant solution out there....

will wade through this in morning:

http://home.comcast.net/~morromid.druid/eq/macro/EQmacros.html

[Tecmos Deception]

theres some lvl 60s in taken and ateam ive seen do this, will try and get theinfo out of them.....

am 90% certain they werent manually clicking them, certainly the shm was alternating between a clicky and canni....was automated in some fashion.

Why are you so certain? What's so hard about pressing 123123123 (or 121212 with a bit of semi-clever keybinding that's permitted by the client) that you're positive some shaman was automating that process? How fast is this manastone spam that you feel the need to talk like someone must be cheating to do it?

That quote from you wouldn't let you macro clickies and casts and sits together, because you couldn't delay the clicky to fire after the spellcast is finished.

[Rhambuk]

pro gaming mouse imo

[blondeattk]

`wouldn't let you macro clickies and casts and sits together, `

dont care about the sits tho...

(will look at putting sit and stinging wort potionon seperate button.)

this is most useful between torpor casts, but atmo I dont have that.

`because you couldn't delay the clicky to fire after the spellcast is finished.`

first line of this one covers that imo. will find the right pause length....

http://home.comcast.net/~morromid.druid/eq/macro/foragesocial.jpg

(oops no, not related to clickies.)

[Tasslehofp99]

All you have to do is set your spell gems to a keybind on your keyboard. Mine are the numberpad keys 1-8. Then you need 2 Cannibalize spells, Canni1/2 work.

I have canni 1 and 3 set to my first 2 spell gems (number pad key 1 and 2) and I use a spyglass to refresh the global cool down. I have the spyglass in a main inventory slot that I've made a hotkey for on my hotbutton bar(the 0 key hotbutton.) Cast canni 1, hit 0 key for spyglass, immediately hit second canni spell. Works great to get mana up quickly.