EQ experience part 2 - End game choices?

[Oglepole]

Hello again Red Server!

As I continue to progress on the server my friends and I are starting to get closer to the magical level 50+ mark. I knew from the start that I was going to want to do some end game content and to do this it seems you really need to join a guild. For what I wanted my end game experience to be, it became clear that my choices were going to comprise of probably Nihilum or Azrael . Its actually really fun chatting with all the other new players on the server and seeing what they think of it each guild (Its like a giant popularity contest).

So what I am asking for next might be the hardest thing ever for some of you forum quest people. Try your best to not land this in rants and flames.

Can someone give me an UNBIASED overview of how the end game world is looking right now? (Aka which guilds are doing well, who is seeing what content, etc).

and

I am not a complete pixel whore, but just like anyone else playing I do enjoying finding new loot! How badly will I hurt my experience of finding new up gradable gear 50+ if I do decide to join a guild that is not the top team right now? More importantly, will I still get a chance to see most content if I am brave enough (and don't mind dying a bunch in PvP haha)?


Keeping in mind that all I get so far is the gossip of OOC, the forums, and some of what people say down the water works.
It comes off like Azrael is the under dog and that Nihi has the superior numbers in most cases. As far as my personal interactions - i have never had any major negative, nor positive interaction with Azrael. While with Nihilum I have had both extremely positive and negative ones (Its a PvP server, it happens!). So I really find both guilds to be equally likable so far.

I honestly like the idea of joining the side that is fighting harder to survive - because I believe a PvP server is most healthiest when you have two (or even three) equal teams duking it out against each other. As mentioned before though, Id also really like to see some of the end game content!

Some veterans care to share some advice? Id like to make a good guild choice and stick with it. As opposed to hopping all over the place.

Oh... and if you see me in CoM this week leveling up, you better run, I just found my Wu quivering staff :D! Whata bad ass!

-Oglepole 45 Monk

[Tassador]

Great read, good points and that part about those rabid monkies on acid. Oh that had me giggling like a young school girl.

[no chewie dont]

Depends if youre into o.g. cheaters or new cheaters omho ;]

[Tradesonred]

Both guilds have bad apples, to put it mildly. Both guilds have cool people, for example i like Thresh and Jezibelle in Azrael. Nihilum gets more raid targets. My experience is that azrael is more stingy on loot, will do stuff that will profit the inner core rather than the guild as a whole. But that was like a year ago. They got ripped a new asshole for it so maybe this has changed. Im in Nihilum (an app, actually) so take that into consideration. You also have most likely Azrael alts in Unrest killing noobs in rags saying "Nihi owns this place'', so if thats the sort of thing youd enjoy doing.

Nizzar (Nihilum lead) has definately some anger issues but i think hes a much better leader than lite (Azrael lead), as he will often do stuff that helps the recruits, will do stuff that benefit the guild as a whole. So i can forgive him the times where he will get angry because things arent going his way because in general, he helps people, gets things done for everybody, etc... He thinks in terms of the guild. Lite had us pull only the mobs that drop druid gear for andis in fear, and then geared out Andis's alt with an epic before even thought of helping other regulars out, because they werent part of the clique. Had us sit for 2 days in seb for hours waiting to get crushed in PVP while there was an xp bonus (this was during a time were grinding was slow) because "Some people dont wanna do that" (XP) IE people like lite, the inner core, who were already 60. Lite didnt do nothing for me and other "down belows" (he called himself and the clique the higher ups) so his shitty leadership didnt have nothing else going on for it. People will come here, post and flame me, but ive heard this story time and time again from people i never even met before, during my time in red dawn. Again, keep in mind my time in Azrael was a year ago or so.

Theres not alot of options if you want to do end game content. I guess if you like being the underdog for the sake of being the underdog, pick Azrael.

Both guilds to me have "toxics" but azrael sort of best of the best toxics, with people like Roberto (slathar), rellapse, smedy (makes fun of people because lol theyre in wheelchair)

[Pudge]

I honestly like the idea of joining the side that is fighting harder to survive - because I believe a PvP server is most healthiest when you have two (or even three) equal teams duking it out against each other. As mentioned before though, Id also really like to see some of the end game content!-Oglepole 45 Monk

This is why it is always honorable to join Azrael. I will NEVER join nilly, because they have been the zerg-domination force for over two years, poopsocking PvE for an eternity, not even needing items but farming them just to cockblock/for alts. You have the Spirit of a Warrior within you. unleash it upon these scum!

In reality both guilds have some decent and some not-as-decent people. but nihilum just has more baddies than Azrael does. join azrael if you want to have fun being the underdawg, being good at pvp and having bros. join nilly if you want empty-hearted pixel collection, and maybe meet 1 or two friends. at first many ppl in nilly might seem nice, but this is just a sugar coating they put on. almost all of the inner-nilly circle are scum. the ones rotating on the fringes (like you would be) are the decent ones

[Tassador]

More text more information preach it sisters!

[Tradesonred]

More text more information preach it sisters!

Cant wait for people to take it to the next level in 20 years and have people say stuff like "reading is for fags"

3 paragraphs, TLDR, what am i to read all these words, stupid?

[Sweetbaby Jesus]

As the others have said both guilds have good and bad players representing them. For me personally I found that Azrael had more trolls and greifers than Nihilum which swayed me in Nihilum's direction. As Trades said Nizzar has a bit of a temper but it's easy to look past it because he doesn't really hold anything against anyone and he does do plenty to help the guild as a whole. I don't know anything about Lite other than hearsay so I won't comment on him. I do however think Nihilum are the more legit pvp oriented guild. Azrael has resorted to training and other shady tactics alot recently which makes it harder to have respect for them. This is not a troll it is my honest opinion.

[Bazia]

join nihilum which already has a massive roster if you want pixels faster

join azrael if you enjoy being the underdog, still can get geared pretty fast too though

[pgerman]

join nihilum

you seem like the type of guy that likes to be on the 50 side


in a 50 v 18 fight

unbiased opinion


you are a weak follower, just embrace it

Not one person has survived being an underdog with this kind of attitude. You need thick skin to take on a horde of neckbeards that never log out, never give up, and best of all pay off GM's to win.

[Drakaris]

join nihilum

you seem like the type of guy that likes to be on the 50 side


in a 50 v 18 fight

unbiased opinion


you are a weak follower, just embrace it

Not one person has survived being an underdog with this kind of attitude. You need thick skin to take on a horde of neckbeards that never log out, never give up, and best of all pay off GM's to win.

... pay off GM's?

Lets not forgot Azrael's first Phara Dar kill involved a GM despawning trash mobs and providing GM rezes, in which a thread was created by staff apologising for it a couple days later. They are only human and can make mistakes and some of which directly benefit Azrael in the past. In addition to this the GM staff do not see any of the donation proceeds, meaning you can't 'buy' them out.

Stop feeding the community with misinformation, if you cannot provide constructive information, then please keep your posts to rant and flames.

Also, try to treat the staff with respect, there is a reason why many GMs avoid R99 petitions. GM Aussie is doing good work.

[vinnidel]

join nihilum

you are a weak follower, just embrace it



^

[Zalaerian]

Both guilds easily able to log in 50+ at any time. Nihilum is more established, has a solid core of players, focused on be the most efficient. We are currently doing alot of testing on the beta and working with devs to ensure velious launches successfully and gearing, and helping our new apps on the live server.

[Not Salem]

lol

[Colgate]

lot of bias in here

[Zalaerian]

naw

[Colgate]

really boils down to whether or not you want a french canadian or a colombian telling you what to do

[Rellapse40]

neither

[freez]

BNihilum is more established, has a solid core of players, focused on be the most efficient.

rofl

[Farzo]

lol I think people get too worked up on this server -

Fact: guild cores have always taken care of themselves and that 15-20% of the 20/7 players need the less casuals to play to gear themselves up ( every guild in my EQ history has been the same ) so if you're casual you really don't factor in to the core groups plans. I was in a pop guild that once awarded a Monk weapon favored to a Beastlord because that Beastlord had been in the guild for a long time; prompting a monk to /deguild on the spot.

Fact: use the 10-80-10 rule in all guilds: 10% c%nts, 80% indiff., 10% good, and the 80% is generally lead by whichever other 10% is in control.

Fact: Some of these people play this game 15-20 hrs a day and get really angry/hateful on the inside any want to take that angry angst out on people. How do I know? because when play 15-20 hrs in a day I get angsty and anything pisses me off in game.


tl;dr
There is no doubt there are shitfaced losers in each guild who make it their priority to fuck people over whether it's in their own guild or others for the sake of their "buddy, buddies". If you play 20/7 and suck their dicks you'll be in with them, if you don't, then play on with little expectations. I personally have 0 expectations of getting anything from guilds on Red as I have 5% chance of making raids/pvp.

edit:
p.s. the Monk was my friend in game and I felt like /deguilding myself too, but I realized that it was the core taking care of the core - and regardless of how many QQs people gave about it didn't stop it, and didn't stop it from happening again. Greed, money and "so-called" power brings the worse out of people in this elfsim and in real life.

[XiakenjaTZ]

I have not seen Azrael over 50 in months and I turn in attendance logs for them.

easy loot with 3rd and 4th alts of the main 4 people getting loot over you join Nihi.

transparent loot system = Azrael

[Colgate]

fact: lite has never been called out by a GM and/or ex-GM for being a scumbag, rule violator, and/or exploiter

fact: nizzar has been called out by uthgaard(ex-GM), ambrotos(when he was still a GM), and ephi for exploiting, RMTing, and account stripping(tune, the second-in-command in nihilum was involved in this as well)

fact: nizzar has been banned numerous times on red99 for training and real-life attacks in /ooc

fact: nizzar has been banned numerous times on blue99 for raid mob PvE exploitation

fact: nihilum was caught red-handed by rogean for exploiting nagafen by pulling him into a wall where he could not AoE, yet no punishment was delivered for some strange reason

fact: lite has been banned once? for an alleged train in plane of fear, when in reality i aggro'd a shiverback, lite's bard song caught aggro, and then a member of a ~30 man nihilum raid aggro'd it off of him

would you rather join a guild founded on exploitation with staff member(s)(Sundawg confirmed) on their roster who typically only wins via overwhelming numbers and is of a PvE-first mindset or a guild that keeps the server competitive as the underdog and occasionally manages to squeeze out victories often with far fewer numbers and is of a PvP-first mindset?

[Kasyra]

really boils down to whether or not you want a french canadian or a colombian telling you what to do

troof.

[Farzo]

^ does the Colombian give free sniff tests of his product?

[Bazia]

If azrael can log on 50+ at any time how come they always have like 22 in vp when Nihilum has 50

[Drakaris]

fact: lite has never been called out by a GM and/or ex-GM for being a scumbag, rule violator, and/or exploiter

fact: nizzar has been called out by uthgaard(ex-GM), ambrotos(when he was still a GM), and ephi for exploiting, RMTing, and account stripping(tune, the second-in-command in nihilum was involved in this as well)

fact: nizzar has been banned numerous times on red99 for training and real-life attacks in /ooc

fact: nizzar has been banned numerous times on blue99 for raid mob PvE exploitation

fact: nihilum was caught red-handed by rogean for exploiting nagafen by pulling him into a wall where he could not AoE, yet no punishment was delivered for some strange reason

fact: lite has been banned once? for an alleged train in plane of fear, when in reality i aggro'd a shiverback, lite's bard song caught aggro, and then a member of a ~30 man nihilum raid aggro'd it off of him

would you rather join a guild founded on exploitation with staff member(s)(Sundawg confirmed) on their roster who typically only wins via overwhelming numbers and is of a PvE-first mindset or a guild that keeps the server competitive as the underdog and occasionally manages to squeeze out victories often with far fewer numbers and is of a PvP-first mindset?

Colgate, you would have most likely been a teenager in the quoted history (most of these happened 2+ years ago!!!) I prefer not to take history lessons from a minor.

The only bans which Nizzar and Tune received since I've been here are for "training" which you guys have done much more of and breaching PnP policy (Tune was suspended for over 2 months because he killed a naked player in mass pvp, while LNS rules were still sketchy and guilds didn't have to call guild LNS).

FACT: Colgate often spins his story by using his personal account of historical events as the absolute truth.

[Greegon]

If azrael can log on 50+ at any time how come they always have like 22 in vp when Nihilum has 50

because farming a VP key is retarded

[bigshowtime]

A lot of facts in this thread

[Lasher]

join nihilum. Need 100 people for veliou. Room behind tibberz and me on the coat tails

[Colgate]

Colgate, you would have most likely been a teenager in the quoted history (most of these happened 2+ years ago!!!) I prefer not to take history lessons from a minor.

The only bans which Nizzar and Tune received since I've been here are for "training" which you guys have done much more of and breaching PnP policy (Tune was suspended for over 2 months because he killed a naked player in mass pvp, while LNS rules were still sketchy and guilds didn't have to call guild LNS).

FACT: Colgate often spins his story by using his personal account of historical events as the absolute truth.

i have proof for every single thing i stated

[Drakaris]

i have proof for every single thing i stated

Like your guildies love to say...

Proof or it didn't happen!

[Smedy]

Drakaris could be nominated for dumbest and biggest nutswinger of 2014, where the fuck do you get your infos? talking to tune and nizzar? yeah they gonna give u the truth

so dumb

[Kasyra]

coooool story bros...too bad no one gives a shit.

[Buhbuh]

well, lesbianest, you all spin shit pretty fuckin' hard here a good majority of the time. it would take a complete retard not to see that that's almost the entirety of your purpose here on these boards.

[Drakaris]

Drakaris could be nominated for dumbest and biggest nutswinger of 2014, where the fuck do you get your infos? talking to tune and nizzar? yeah they gonna give u the truth

so dumb

I know u guys were harping on about Nizzar being banned for RMT while he was taking a break playing the D3 expansion. A screenshot of his character in Erudin with timestamp was even provided, but u guys kept harping on about RMT bans and how that screenshot was faked.

They don't need to say anything, your warped perspective of reality is more than obvious.

[Vayder]

would you rather join a guild founded on exploitation with staff member(s)(Sundawg confirmed) on their roster

I've got my issues with Nizzar, but the Sundawg stuff needs to stop. Anyone who thinks Arzak would exploit has clearly never been in Nihilum TS or played with Arzak. Guy is like Nirgon and Ele combined into one Classic Crusader(tm).

[SamwiseRed]

I dont like the faction changes that happen, they have been too coincidental. Chardok faction changes and Eruden faction quests getting nerfed are some of them. Also hes taken mobs out of the game or changed their mechanics after he was done using them (Raptors in TD and some factionless dwarf in BB.) Maybe not exploit but Nilly definately has taken advantage of insider knowledge.

If you know someone is not classic why would you use it to grind then nerf it afterwards?

Also do we really need to mention Trollborn lol and all the other forum personalities he has :)

[heartbrand]

Arzak great guy. One of the few classic champions of p99. He never gets rustled and is prolly the most mature guy in the guild.

[heartbrand]

I dont like the faction changes that happen, they have been too coincidental. Chardok faction changes and Eruden faction quests getting nerfed are some of them. Also hes taken mobs out of the game or changed their mechanics after he was done using them (Raptors in TD and some factionless dwarf in BB.) Maybe not exploit but Nilly definately has taken advantage of insider knowledge.

This is why people who don't play shouldn't talk about things they know nothing about. Chardok faction got changed to the detriment of everyone on both servers with a one month plus PSA after we did our first royals clear. He noticed the faction seemed way off, and like a good dev, fixed it. Same with Erudin. Just because it takes the big rogdawg six months at a time to patch things doesn't mean it was "stalled" to benefit nihilum. Holy fuck dude.

[SamwiseRed]

Are you saying Nilly didn't try to get as much out of it as possible before the nerf? The thing is, they shouldn't have access to knowing what changes that are going to occur. However slight the advantage, its still an advantage. I know you are just blindly defending Nilly like you always do when you are in the guild so I am just gonna assume you aren't being serious.

I do wonder what other changes hes made that Nilly is aware of but never made it to patch notes.

[heartbrand]

Are you saying Nilly didn't try to get as much out of it as possible before the nerf? The thing is, they shouldn't have access to knowing what changes that are going to occur. However slight the advantage, its still an advantage. I know you are just blindly defending Nilly like you always do when you are in the guild so I am just gonna assume you aren't being serious.

Ya that big insider knowledge that was a sticky post entitled "PSA" on both the red and blue forum. You got me there. I also personally stopped playing here until the compass was removed in order that I should not benefit from this game breaking function.

[SamwiseRed]

Heartbrand's tune always changes depending on what bandwagon he's on. Honestly pretty funny to watch him white knight for Nilly for the 3rd time. Holocaust HB was also pretty entertaining with all the burn the server to the ground and freesmallme posts.

Obviously we can't discuss this because no matter what is said you are going to cling to the Nizzarrs nuts. I guess we gotta wait til HB leaves Nillly again to get a different opinion.

Also judging by your sarcasm you agree or i struck a nerve. Either way I win.

[Youlath]

i have proof for every single thing i stated

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=522122&postcount=841

most of it's right there

I'm convinced had drakaris been in VP he would've been one of the retards running to xygoz while we were killing phara dar

[Marqus]

It wasn't more than one month ago that on repop day it was 38 Azrael vs 22 Nilly in KC. Did lite tell his crew "Hey guys, we're quite the zerg right now, can some log off?". Hell no they came into KC, f'd us up and /ooc'd and posted on the boards how dominant they were.

After a slew of losses Azrael is no longer willing to fight on repop day. Don't let their cries of zerg make you feel sorry for them. They fielded 48 vs our 52 on the last repop day that they tried to contest. Joining Azrael does not mean you are in some David vs Goliath. It is Goliath vs Goliath right now, but one of them is sad and not willing to fight.

[SamwiseRed]

http://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/fiftycentfirstpitchfail.gif?w=500&h=267&crop=1

[Genedin]

really boils down to whether or not you want a french canadian or a colombian telling you what to do

[heartbrand]

Heartbrand's tune always changes depending on what bandwagon he's on. Honestly pretty funny to watch him white knight for Nilly for the 3rd time. Holocaust HB was also pretty entertaining with all the burn the server to the ground and freesmallme posts.

Obviously we can't discuss this because no matter what is said you are going to cling to the Nizzarrs nuts. I guess we gotta wait til HB leaves Nillly again to get a different opinion.

Also judging by your sarcasm you agree or i struck a nerve. Either way I win.

Source Argument's are a popular form of argumentation when facts start poking holes in your argument.

[HippoNipple]

Heartbrand's tune always changes depending on what bandwagon he's on. Honestly pretty funny to watch him white knight for Nilly for the 3rd time. Holocaust HB was also pretty entertaining with all the burn the server to the ground and freesmallme posts.

Obviously we can't discuss this because no matter what is said you are going to cling to the Nizzarrs nuts. I guess we gotta wait til HB leaves Nillly again to get a different opinion.

Also judging by your sarcasm you agree or i struck a nerve. Either way I win.

Only the best of trolls actually preach things they don't believe in for the sake of forum quest. The average poster doesn't change their opinion they just only voice their opinions that aren't directly against current guild members.

There are people on both sides that people think are dumb and post stupid shit but obviously guild members don't call out their own guild mates or it could disrupt the sweet sweet pixel shower.

[Youlath]

Only the best of trolls actually preach things they don't believe in for the sake of forum quest. The average poster doesn't change their opinion they just only voice their opinions that aren't directly against current guild members.

There are people on both sides that people think are dumb and post stupid shit but obviously guild members don't call out their own guild mates or it could disrupt the sweet sweet pixel shower.

lite showed porn on stream once

calling him out

[heartbrand]

I change my mind often because circumstances on this server change often. We're not talking about fundamental laws of physics which are immutable. For example, I was convinced that the Nagafen "exploit" was dastardly and what not when it occurred. Now, having been in Nihilum for a long time and seeing dragons such as Nexona bugged for over a year, dragons like Druushk bugged for over a year, during which time zero responses occurred on bug threads, I can see why people might reasonably decide "fuck it" and use some advanced tactics to dispose of them, sort of like what happened when Nagafen got stuck in the geometry for several days and no guide would log on to reset him.

Another example, I was originally incredibly against Variance, because the server was basically just Nihilum raiding and it was nothing more than a "tax" on Nihilum. Now, with vibrant competition, I think some form of "Variance" or random repop timer resets would be a good thing to help continue healthy competition. The fundamentals have changed, so my opinion has changed.

I used to be incredibly against item loot, but now, I see it as the only logical way to make this server better.

There's nothing wrong with having an evolving opinion as you devour more facts. I'd be more afraid of the ideologues on these boards who continue to parrot the same views three plus years into the server who don't even play here.

[heartbrand]

As far as OP is concerned, both guilds have huge flaws. Neither is close to as fun as classic EQ guilds were, at least in my opinion. Voice Chat has ruined gaming, and reduced peoples skill. In live, people had to react to fucked up pulls and mechanics without relying on Typical_Cursing_Shouting_Guildleader01 to drop multiple f bombs on them and hold their hands. People seem far more rustled here on both sides 24/7 than I ever remember on live, and this includes periods on live of great douchebaggery such as cockblocking RZTW.

Ultimately, if your goal is to slay big dragons in NToV, your only option will be Nihilum. There are some obnoxious people, but that's the same in every guild in every video game ever [and the same in real life such as that annoying cousin and co-worker]. Unlike real life though, you can mute and /ignore these people. Despite the propaganda, Nihilum is "fair", I've never had an issue with loot or anything like that. I'm not a fan of the "drop a bunch of curse words on people" method of leading, but it seems like everyone does that these days. Good luck.

[Tassador]

Lol seek help guys while keeping up the buisness.

[Nirgon]

I've got my issues with Nizzar, but the Sundawg stuff needs to stop. Anyone who thinks Arzak would exploit has clearly never been in Nihilum TS or played with Arzak. Guy is like Nirgon and Ele combined into one Classic Crusader(tm).

Nope.

But.. we all got dirt on us... every. single. one. of. us.

Don't forget that.

Dawg's kew on my book atm given this.


I used to be incredibly against item loot, but now, I see it as the only logical way to make this server better.


You mean a 4 level range pvp server with item loot is classic? Hm sounds like that might be the whole point/fun.

Partials and cc spells need to be WAY more tuned across the board before you do it though.


As far as rustled/toxic people here... its the VZTZ crew and all the blue server rejects. Wow how could this community ever turned out this way? Hm.

[Sheriff]

http://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/fiftycentfirstpitchfail.gif?w=500&h=267&crop=1

Baba boey!!!!!

[Dacuk]

LOL isn't this the guy that was anon trolling the forums in the most retared fashion possible a year or two ago? Mature? please

Arzak great guy. One of the few classic champions of p99. He never gets rustled and is prolly the most mature guy in the guild.

[Rellapse40]

heartbrands immersion of dick sucking is off the charts

[Fame]

... pay off GM's?

Lets not forgot

42 day resets?

[Wanyo]

Blacks

[Nirgon]

42 day resets?

Next time one of those happens let Kringe know, he was asking where they went.

MAYBE I'm wrong here but it was a feature he really liked and was so sad to see it go.

[Colgate]

For example, I was convinced that the Nagafen "exploit" was dastardly and what not when it occurred. Now, having been in Nihilum for a long time and seeing dragons such as Nexona bugged for over a year, dragons like Druushk bugged for over a year, during which time zero responses occurred on bug threads, I can see why people might reasonably decide "fuck it" and use some advanced tactics to dispose of them, sort of like what happened when Nagafen got stuck in the geometry for several days and no guide would log on to reset him.

hmm yes it's very strange that hughman, the guy who tanked the dragon and helped them pull it into a wall, and nerfed, one of their only clerics who was also there from day one, both openly admit that nagafen was intentionally dragged into the wall so that it wouldn't aoe all three times they killed it

[Smedy]

http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090822141314/en.futurama/images/c/cf/Hyper-Chicken.jpg
illustration of hb doing work in court about a 2 year old case against nihilum exploiting nagafen. colgate calls old nihilum core members to the stand and they admit to said exploit

[heartbrand]

Reading comprehension not on the curriculum in Europe? Didn't say it wasn't an exploit, said I can see now from a different perspective when you petition things and they aren't fixed for months on end, why you might say fuck it.

[Recycled Children]

I used to be incredibly against item loot, but now, I see it as the only logical way to make this server better.

Care to elaborate on this point?

I think item loot could be fun but only if drop rates were either drastically increased or decreased, if the crafting systems were refined to be more productive, merchant item prices weren't outrageous or there was no PvP level range. Anyone of these things could make item loot viable but with Red99 game mechanics at their current state item loot seems like it would only cater to hardest of sadomasochists. Resources are already scarce and providing an avenue to which players can take others' resources without any kind of balance will kill the population.

[heartbrand]

It makes items more valuable, makes plenty of no drop items more desirable that serve no purpose currently, balances casters against melee's as melee's now need to risk resist gear vs. them, cuts down on Fungi twinks as they're risking Fungis vs Short Sword*'s, etc., etc.

[Colgate]

they didn't wait for months for their shot to kill nagafen with 15 people in classic, half of them being in their 30s, no bards, and one charmed pet, all because it was somehow bugged in a wall in tranix's hallway and amelinda wouldn't pull it out and just said fuck it

nizzar knew of the exploit from blue and they did that right off the bat

[Clark]

This is why it is always honorable to join Azrael. I will NEVER join nilly, because they have been the zerg-domination force for over two years, poopsocking PvE for an eternity, not even needing items but farming them just to cockblock/for alts. You have the Spirit of a Warrior within you. unleash it upon these scum!

In reality both guilds have some decent and some not-as-decent people. but nihilum just has more baddies than Azrael does. join azrael if you want to have fun being the underdawg, being good at pvp and having bros. join nilly if you want empty-hearted pixel collection, and maybe meet 1 or two friends. at first many ppl in nilly might seem nice, but this is just a sugar coating they put on. almost all of the inner-nilly circle are scum. the ones rotating on the fringes (like you would be) are the decent ones

[Andis]

This is why it is always honorable to join Azrael. I will NEVER join nilly, because they have been the zerg-domination force for over two years, poopsocking PvE for an eternity, not even needing items but farming them just to cockblock/for alts. You have the Spirit of a Warrior within you. unleash it upon these scum!

In reality both guilds have some decent and some not-as-decent people. but nihilum just has more baddies than Azrael does. join azrael if you want to have fun being the underdawg, being good at pvp and having bros. join nilly if you want empty-hearted pixel collection, and maybe meet 1 or two friends. at first many ppl in nilly might seem nice, but this is just a sugar coating they put on. almost all of the inner-nilly circle are scum. the ones rotating on the fringes (like you would be) are the decent ones

pras pudge

lay it down son

[Kergan]

I dedicate this song to you assclowns talking about crap that happened 2 years ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moSFlvxnbgk

[Zalaerian]

Yaw azreal def not a Zerg logging in 50 for uncontested dragons for a month. At least nilly fought your Zerg w our 20. Azreal won't even fight anymore. Nilly premier pvp guild

[Genedin]

It makes items more valuable, makes plenty of no drop items more desirable that serve no purpose currently, balances casters against melee's as melee's now need to risk resist gear vs. them, cuts down on Fungi twinks as they're risking Fungis vs Short Sword*'s, etc., etc.

I remember killing a fully twinked lvl 8 when he went Linkdead on my mage back in classic on rallos. Getting that mithrill breastplate launched me forward greatly. I really was disappointed there was no item loot on this server when I decided to play here.

[Dacuk]

Yaw azreal def not a Zerg logging in 50 for uncontested dragons for a month. At least nilly fought your Zerg w our 20. Azreal won't even fight anymore. Nilly premier pvp guild

based on our dkp tracking, we've had more than 35 people for 12 out of our past 100 raids, and each of those instances there was guild vs guild pvp.

good try tho homie

edit - we broke 50 twice out of the past 100 raids

[Zalaerian]

Yea you guys were on top for a month. 2 weeks @ 50ish other 2 mid 40s. Sounds pretty spot on

[Drakaris]

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=522122&postcount=841

most of it's right there

I'm convinced had drakaris been in VP he would've been one of the retards running to xygoz while we were killing phara dar

I'm actually pretty awesome at pve and avoiding aggro. Solo exped in vs room with summoning mobs to get oggok cleavers while the rest of the people that tried died and gave up.

I also one of the few people that ran down and soloed the nibleks gem quest on my sk without using ghosting exploits like your guild does.

Almost 1 year on this server and 0 trains to my name. I think you are mistaking me for Beastagor/Salem a self confessed trainer who's at most received a 12 hour suspension.

[Drakaris]

based on our dkp tracking, we've had more than 35 people for 12 out of our past 100 raids, and each of those instances there was guild vs guild pvp.

good try tho homie

edit - we broke 50 twice out of the past 100 raids

That sounds right. You obviously don't record dkp for boxes. Still doesn't change that you had close to 50 accounts logged in for almost a month.

[Drakaris]

Yaw azreal def not a Zerg logging in 50 for uncontested dragons for a month. At least nilly fought your Zerg w our 20. Azreal won't even fight anymore. Nilly premier pvp guild

Pras ksah, white knight of truth. While vapo made the calls nihilum was ALL about pvp (unfortunately the reality of success here is measured by pixel aquisition).

[Dacuk]

That sounds right. You obviously don't record dkp for boxes. Still doesn't change that you had close to 50 accounts logged in for almost a month.

nod don't let facts get in the way of a good story.

[Tradesonred]

The first time i heard the term VPN was out of Lite's mouth, Colgate.

[SamwiseRed]

lite invented boxing.

[Not Salem]

does sitting on the power block while watching you kill VS count as fighting?

[Colgate]

ya that just ain't true i remember the only time there was a huge disparity in numbers in favor of azrael nihilum just had 25 people gfluxed onto the zone in ledge in KC and refused to come down so the moment VS died they all zoned out and logged off

[kprobe]

Don't join a zerg on a pvp server. Don't be that guy.

[Zalaerian]

Prob should join FoH then cause by the standards set, being able to log in 50+ at any given time is a zerg, which both Az and Nihi can do

[Drakaris]

ya that just ain't true i remember the only time there was a huge disparity in numbers in favor of azrael nihilum just had 25 people gfluxed onto the zone in ledge in KC and refused to come down so the moment VS died they all zoned out and logged off

24 (where 60% of the numbers had been underlevelled/undergeared apps fresh from Red Dawn) vs 48 seemed like a fair fight to you I take it? We tried to charge at you when you pulled VS, but it died in like 15-30 seconds to your zerg, we then zoned to FM and got zerg pvped outnumbered 2:1.

You guys have double standards coming out of your arse and the server can see your guild for what it actually is, an immature bunch of cry babies that abuse their position of power by being a defective clone of the opposition they are trying to topple.

I guess now that you have VP gear you are going back to the 'Zerg' excuse when you lose mass pvp. Why can't you field the numbers that you had less than a month ago? Last I saw all your members started splitting off into their no name pvp guilds and you guys are back to griefing the server with pvp twinks (the character Baldwin who frequently griefs CoM resembles the phrase 'Baldwinning' Azrael like to use everywhere and the guy is geared to the teeth - you would be a fool to believe the cover story "I'm from blue and traded for these items" - LOL).

Bunch of sore losers imo.

[Smedy]

calm down pals, no ones actually hating you for riding some supernerds coat tail in emulated elf simulator, no need to be so defensive, i'm sure in the future we can all lol at this

[Colgate]

did not read that novella

[no chewie dont]

Prob should join FoH then cause by the standards set, being able to log in 50+ at any given time is a zerg, which both Az and Nihi can do

anytime the list is cut short imo

[Tradesonred]

ya that just ain't true i remember the only time there was a huge disparity in numbers in favor of azrael nihilum just had 25 people gfluxed onto the zone in ledge in KC and refused to come down so the moment VS died they all zoned out and logged off

You want it short and sweet? This immaculate virgin stuff, coming from people who were in the original red99 zerg, that Nihilum countered and beat, Holocaust, is hilarious

[Smedy]

holocaust is the most shameful group on this box, the few that remain with integrity intact makes up about 5% of their ranks, the rest ended up in the guild that ultimately wiped them of the face of norrath

weak as fuk yo

[Feniggles]

fact: lite has never been called out by a GM and/or ex-GM for being a scumbag, rule violator, and/or exploiter

fact: nizzar has been called out by uthgaard(ex-GM), ambrotos(when he was still a GM), and ephi for exploiting, RMTing, and account stripping(tune, the second-in-command in nihilum was involved in this as well)

fact: nizzar has been banned numerous times on red99 for training and real-life attacks in /ooc

fact: nizzar has been banned numerous times on blue99 for raid mob PvE exploitation

fact: nihilum was caught red-handed by rogean for exploiting nagafen by pulling him into a wall where he could not AoE, yet no punishment was delivered for some strange reason

fact: lite has been banned once? for an alleged train in plane of fear, when in reality i aggro'd a shiverback, lite's bard song caught aggro, and then a member of a ~30 man nihilum raid aggro'd it off of him

would you rather join a guild founded on exploitation with staff member(s)(Sundawg confirmed) on their roster who typically only wins via overwhelming numbers and is of a PvE-first mindset or a guild that keeps the server competitive as the underdog and occasionally manages to squeeze out victories often with far fewer numbers and is of a PvP-first mindset?


Fact colgate posts zero proof and believes if he says something enough times it becomes true

[Colgate]

all of the proof has been posted 100x, do a simple forum search

[Tradesonred]

holocaust is the most shameful group on this box, the few that remain with integrity intact makes up about 5% of their ranks, the rest ended up in the guild that ultimately wiped them of the face of norrath

weak as fuk yo

Hahaha more immaculate virgin stuff, as if holocaust werent the ones 8v2ing people in Sro, swamp and Lguk 24/7 when server started out. There was no "evil, greedy zerg" to defeat on day1, holocaust was that zerg. Precisely why i was trying to get xp loss in pvp removed from day1 so it would be possible to challenge zergs like holocaust. No need to thank me for my efforts, which made it so you stand a chance against Nihilum now.

[SamwiseRed]

smedy wasnt holocaust, he was anti holocaust moran.

imaginary friends got that integrity to not join nilly.

[Tradesonred]

smedy wasnt holocaust, he was anti holocaust moran.

imaginary friends got that integrity to not join nilly.

I didnt say he was holocaust, moron.

[Feniggles]

How many Nihilum app'd to Azrael when we were losing? How many Azrael app to Nihilum when you lose? thanks for playing

[Rystar]

Samwise and Smedy do either of you even play? Neither of you have a clue what has been going on in the last few weeks. I also think Colgate quit after Nihilum started stomping again. He also only brings up the old shit.

Both guilds have assholes and great people, Nihilum rules the box, Azrael is the competition. Pick a side and stick it out and enjoy.

[SamwiseRed]

red99 wasnt meant to be like rz. there are no antis. its zerg or die. red99 fun as hell until end game when you realize its not an esport of friendly competitiveness but take everything and kill everyone. i think if you never played live you'll enjoy red99 alot but the nostalgia ends quickly if you try to do big things here.

server thriving and getting new players but its the wrong type of new players. no leaders, only followers. i've leveled quite a bit with them and they are all cool people but noone here has the idea to start something or make a name for themselves from scratch. they see the shortest and probably the most logical path to BIS which is joining nilly.

i dont know where im going with this but look on blue. they have about 5 times the active population as us but 20 times the guilds. so many factions and clusters of players from casual to ec tunnel rat 24/7. red99 lacks this kind of diversity and it really makes me sad.

[UnknownPapple]

So in other words friend I'll break it down for you since the post was about unbiased. Info on which guild to join. After reading the 10 pages of friendly chatting I believe the answer you're looking for is, we should probably all just quit now because getting 50+ seems like enough fun to want to /wrist and hope you bleed enough on your comp to break it so you can kick your eq addiction.
Safe travels.

Sincerely,
Taledar

[Modus]

I change my mind often because circumstances on this server change often. We're not talking about fundamental laws of physics which are immutable.

This is clearly more Nihilum propaganda, disseminated through an uninformed corporate mouthpiece!! Lies, all lies!!!

http://www.livescience.com/29111-speed-of-light-not-constant.html

http://phys.org/news/2013-09-gravitational-constant-higher.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_relativity

[SamwiseRed]

naw if you wanna raid and see loot red99 is superior to blue. there is just little to no competition. its weird. on blue it would make more sense to zerg up yet they dont. more players willing to build a foundation than to just start on top. thats the kind of blue players this server needs more than anyone.

[Feniggles]

naw if you wanna raid and see loot red99 is superior to blue. there is just little to no competition. its weird. on blue it would make more sense to zerg up yet they dont. more players willing to build a foundation than to just start on top. thats the kind of blue players this server needs more than anyone.

samwise even in range to 60's?

[SamwiseRed]

been the same level for over a year. why would i level my port/pl bot?

wanna level him for me?

[Tradesonred]

red99 wasnt meant to be like rz. there are no antis. its zerg or die. red99 fun as hell until end game when you realize its not an esport of friendly competitiveness but take everything and kill everyone. i think if you never played live you'll enjoy red99 alot but the nostalgia ends quickly if you try to do big things here.

server thriving and getting new players but its the wrong type of new players. no leaders, only followers. i've leveled quite a bit with them and they are all cool people but noone here has the idea to start something or make a name for themselves from scratch. they see the shortest and probably the most logical path to BIS which is joining nilly.


That is the consequence of a low pop box, not really a player thing. If the devs wouldnt have reacted way too late on xp loss in pvp we might still have a 500+ box, which would make multiple guilds that do raid content viable. We might see a 500+ box again if server stays on course and they dont implement other terribad decisions without debating the pros and cons with the players first. Group xp bonus prime example of the good that can come with an exchange with the playerbase.

Im an anti personally, that is my natural fit. I just dont devote enough time to the game, but a twink guild to defend noobs in rags in unrest is on my to-do list if I ever get around to having more time to devote to EQ.

I mainly played here as an anti as well, with the same mentality i had on Rallos. Its not because youre an anti that you dont like pvp, you have people engaging you all the time so the "shitlist" fills up pretty quickly. Unfortunately it wasnt like this here for like 1.5 years or so because xp loss made it that most people didnt want to pvp unless they were on a gank train like holocaust. Yet another reason why i pushed for xp loss removal.

[SamwiseRed]

there is plenty of people to have 4-5 guilds right now. 30 is enough for everything. pop is pushing 250 at times. everyone is on velious alert and recruiting everyone with a pulse.

[Tradesonred]

there is plenty of people to have 4-5 guilds right now. 30 is enough for everything. pop is pushing 250 at times. everyone is on velious alert and recruiting everyone with a pulse.

Thats not going to be so easy though, its not like you can name 5 captains like in high school and have them draft 30 players each. I beleive in time other guilds can pop up if the population can rise steadily.

[heartbrand]

Static spawns / low pop / no dedicated neckbeards / velious = few guilds

[SamwiseRed]

i am sure there are more than 5 people capable of leading a guild here, its just convincing other players to join them and struggle vs join someone already winning and have it easy.

as far as the low pop thing. yes pop is low but 250 is pretty damn good. we are 1/3 to a 1/4 of the blue server at times but we have far less guilds. there is no casual option with leadership and even if there was, i am pretty sure the other 2 guilds would pick them clean or destroy them (see red dawn and all its previous forms.) non-neckbeard guilds do not last on here for whatever reason. maybe red99 is simply not meant for casuals.

[heartbrand]

red99 wasnt meant to be like rz. there are no antis. its zerg or die. red99 fun as hell until end game when you realize its not an esport of friendly competitiveness but take everything and kill everyone. i think if you never played live you'll enjoy red99 alot but the nostalgia ends quickly if you try to do big things here.

server thriving and getting new players but its the wrong type of new players. no leaders, only followers. i've leveled quite a bit with them and they are all cool people but noone here has the idea to start something or make a name for themselves from scratch. they see the shortest and probably the most logical path to BIS which is joining nilly.

i dont know where im going with this but look on blue. they have about 5 times the active population as us but 20 times the guilds. so many factions and clusters of players from casual to ec tunnel rat 24/7. red99 lacks this kind of diversity and it really makes me sad.

Variance on blue vs no variance on red. You can't win mobs on red without having at least 80% or so the pop of the top guild which tends to be in the mid to high 40's on avg. (yes you can snipe mobs here and there but that's not enough to keep most people logging on)

[SamwiseRed]

im still not set on variance being an option. maybe more freq full repops but even then i think either azrael or nilly would go out of their way to ensure some casual scum doesnt get ct or inny.

maybe velious is the answer for casual guilds but i wonder how it will be for pvp.

[Feniggles]

i am sure there are more than 5 people capable of leading a guild here, its just convincing other players to join them and struggle vs join someone already winning and have it easy.

as far as the low pop thing. yes pop is low but 250 is pretty damn good. we are 1/3 to a 1/4 of the blue server at times but we have far less guilds. there is no casual option with leadership and even if there was, i am pretty sure the other 2 guilds would pick them clean or destroy them (see red dawn and all its previous forms.) non-neckbeard guilds do not last on here for whatever reason. maybe red99 is simply not meant for casuals.

Azrael only one with a history of attempting to grief guilds off the server(Force, Red Dawn)

[SamwiseRed]

no nilly never griefed red dawn, never

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbLsc0pf610

now i know you are just trolling. you used to be so pleasant.

[Feniggles]

no nilly never griefed red dawn, never

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbLsc0pf610

now i know you are just trolling. you used to be so pleasant.

i got 10 seconds in and saw ender with a harpoon. PvP HELLO???

[SamwiseRed]

i dont know what to tell you buddy. you are pretty much gone at this point.

[Feniggles]

i remember coming to neriak to help stop Azrael from bind camping red dawn more then a couple times, explain that please? also your video is from the first red dawn which i was in.

[SamwiseRed]

i remember flowers and brotherhood defending grobb from nilly who were trying to de-leveling afk past out salem. i dont think you remember when bind camping actually did something because some of the worse offenders share your current guild tag. how do you get bind camped in neriak, just log out or /q unless they were all passed out afk then thats not cool

[Tradesonred]

The important thing is that xp nerf killed red dawn, not nihilum. Content cockblocking is going to happen. We had some fun for a while, one of the coolest thing i did on the box is sniping a dragon while Nihi and Az were duking it out in EJ. Both guilds wanted that dragon, 3rd option found a way in.

I wasnt there during the last 2 months, maybe heartbrand can add details but seemed to me that people not logging in from xp nerf and HB stretched too thin is what made the guild implode.

[SamwiseRed]

also that was stupid of azrael as well but then again alot of the hate towards red dawn in the end was because they knew red dawn would eventually be taken over by nilly.

red dawn was a good thing for the server which is why i try not to hate on HB that much. dude put in work and time into making this server better. too bad i cant say the same for u :(

[SamwiseRed]

ya xp nerf really hurt the guild but to say members werent starting to bleed out would be a lie. either way sucks that they are gone.

[Tradesonred]

i remember flowers and brotherhood defending grobb from nilly who were trying to de-leveling afk past out salem. i dont think you remember when bind camping actually did something because some of the worse offenders share your current guild tag. how do you get bind camped in neriak, just log out or /q unless they were all passed out afk then thats not cool

Holocaust were the worst offenders, and even then its only a guild tag. Like most guilds you had different kinds of people in them. What about kimm barely who was banned for CCing some guy for like 8 hours.

[Feniggles]

also that was stupid of azrael as well but then again alot of the hate towards red dawn in the end was because they knew red dawn would eventually be taken over by nilly.

red dawn was a good thing for the server which is why i try not to hate on HB that much. dude put in work and time into making this server better. too bad i cant say the same for u :(

Azrael attempts to grief people and wonders why they would join Azrael's main opposition? come on buddy

[SamwiseRed]

nihilum can do no harm in your eyes can they lol. dem pixels.

[Feniggles]

nihilum can do no harm in your eyes can they lol. dem pixels.

what pixels? i haz none

[SamwiseRed]

u cant be that stupid.

[Tradesonred]

also that was stupid of azrael as well but then again alot of the hate towards red dawn in the end was because they knew red dawn would eventually be taken over by nilly.

red dawn was a good thing for the server which is why i try not to hate on HB that much. dude put in work and time into making this server better. too bad i cant say the same for u :(

They didnt know shit. I was there in RD as it happened, it was just like in eve online when you see temporary alliances form. Who knows what would have happened if the xp nerf didnt go in as long as it did. This nilly feeder guild stuff was laughable

I was one of the more vocal ones in RD to push to go out and crush lite and Azrael, and it didnt gain support. I wanted to laugh at Lite and other Az talking shit about RD having to join forces to "crush" Azrael. I wanted to see what would happen if Nihi and RD would go and actually collectively sit on Azrael. My guess would have been it wouldnt have lasted 3 weeks. You might then have another guild come out of the rubble, cuz that loot council shit is really demoralizing for people not part of the inner circle, and detrimental to server health in general, the main reason i pushed to go out and clean out Azrael. You can say what you want about Nihi, but loot trickles down to the lower echelons.

I know azrael has less resources, thats not what im talking about. Its about work being put in and not getting left out.

[Rellapse40]

both guilds suck

nihilum just sucks worse and has more loud mouth cry babies

[Drakaris]

nihilum can do no harm in your eyes can they lol. dem pixels.

No but apparently Gangsta was told off and booted for griefing lowbies with a pvp twink and an oor healer.

He is now proudly wearing your guild tag.

You may not realise it, but Nihilum core officers have really tried to clean up the guild and it seems that you are your own worst enemy, many of the ex Azrael apps have commended the guild leadership on providing a much better guild atmosphere.

It's ok, keep attacking Nihilum for stuff they did 2 years ago, rather than fixing the problems within your own guild. It is the only way you can succeed.... not really...

[SamwiseRed]

who you trying to convince me or yourself?

[Drakaris]

both guilds suck

nihilum just sucks worse and has more loud mouth cry babies

How are those photoshopped biceps doing for your craigslist profile?

Many Azrael tears were shed when Nizzar returned. Daily cries for variance was heard from your guild leader Lite. Many cries of 'OMG NILLY ZERG' were heard on the forums. It is ok Rellapse, one day you will achieve social acceptance and leave this place.... one day...

[Drakaris]

who you trying to convince me or yourself?

Nope, just the wider community.

I can't convince a fool that can't see past his feet.

[Colgate]

drakar one of those few people brave enough to argue against widely accepted facts backed up by proof

[SamwiseRed]

drakaris nilly could murder someone right in front of you and you would somehow argue they were in the right or its just in the past. you are too loyal to pixels to have any kind of unbiased opinion.

[Drakaris]

drakar one of those few people brave enough to argue against widely accepted facts backed up by proof

Lets see proof....

Lite's cries for variance right here:
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=152231&highlight=variance
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=147027&highlight=variance
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=143856&highlight=variance
http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137383&highlight=variance

I cbf searching ooc logs and forum content for the rest but I assure you its all there.

[SamwiseRed]

you are too far gone to be reasoned with. dem pixels :)

[Drakaris]

drakaris nilly could murder someone right in front of you and you would somehow argue they were in the right or its just in the past. you are too loyal to pixels to have any kind of unbiased opinion.

Pixels? No PD Robes/Crowns/Cloaks/Earrings here.

I've farmed a shitload of pixels and the only VP loot I have is the DMF robe + necro click stick (which every alt has) to help the guild on raid nights.

I just like being in the company of upstanding and respectable family oriented gents (and ladies!)

[Slathar]

Pixels? No PD Robes/Crowns/Cloaks/Earrings here.

I've farmed a shitload of pixels and the only VP loot I have is the DMF robe + necro click stick (which every alt has) to help the guild on raid nights.

I just like being in the company of upstanding and respectable family oriented gents (and ladies!)

Family environment in an emulation of a fantasy mmorpg?

Hahahahaha, fuck your family environment.

[Drakaris]

Family environment in an emulation of a fantasy mmorpg?

Hahahahaha, fuck your family environment.

There are people out there that like elf sim who have actually achieved the goal of breeding you know?

[Slathar]

There are people out there that like elf sim who have actually achieved the goal of breeding you know?

Are you trying to say Nihilum as a collective caters to families?

[Drakaris]

Are you trying to say Nihilum as a collective caters to families?

Sure, why not!

As far as I can tell we don't have any registered sex offenders, not that I am directly trying to say Azrael does (in respect of confidentiality).

[Slathar]

Sure, why not!

As far as I can tell we don't have any registered sex offenders, not that I am directly trying to say Azrael does (in respect of confidentiality).

I have no idea who or what you're referencing. You have people who routinely threaten real life violence over this game. Not to mention blatant racism and homophobia. You're Australian though, racism is part of your national identity. Bogan.

[SamwiseRed]

everyday day i leave my house, im always lookin over my shoulder because willan wants to kill everyone in azrael in rl.

[DrRoach]

drakar one of those few people brave enough to argue against widely accepted facts backed up by proof

When was the last time Colgate was in fear,hate,sky helping gear apps? You're a monk, do you know even know how to pull?

[SamwiseRed]

When was the last time Colgate was in fear,hate,sky helping gear apps? Your a monk, do you know even know how to pull?

*you're

as in you're an idiot

[DrRoach]

*you're

as in you're an idiot

I fixed it for you. Posting from phone, Colgate only joined azrael because lite wouldn't give him loot without tag. Who's the pixel whore now

[Drakaris]

I have no idea who or what you're referencing. You have people who routinely threaten real life violence over this game. Not to mention blatant racism and homophobia. You're Australian though, racism is part of your national identity. Bogan.

LOL... I'm first generation Australian, you douchebag. My brothers and father are American citizens and I am a dual citizen.

Nice try though.

[Not Salem]

Drakar comonly seen refering to me as a "******", very toxic imo

[Drakaris]

everyday day i leave my house, im always lookin over my shoulder because willan wants to kill everyone in azrael in rl.

That actually made me snicker, better hide your Azrael shirt when you go out!

[SamwiseRed]

LOL... I'm first generation douchebag. My brothers and father are American citizens and I am a dual citizen.

Nice try though.

you certainly are a douchebag but i wouldnt have figured first generation.

[Drakaris]

Drakar comonly seen refering to me as a "******", very toxic imo

.... what you talking about fool?

[SamwiseRed]

lol laughs when officers threaten people in RL with violence and commonly uses racist words. wow really family oriented guild. you are as retarded as feniggles.

[Drakaris]

lol laughs when officers threaten people in RL with violence and commonly uses the word racist words. wow really family oriented guild. when you guys used to attack HBs kid, that was real classy.

Please don't confuse someone's emotional outburst with a genuine real life threat. People say shit all the time, it was only 6 months ago one of your Azrael tagged members made inappropriate sexual remarks in tells randomly about my wife and son (who is very much a minor). Which is worse - someone being an E-thug out of rage or; someone sending paedophilic tells to troll/offend you?

[SamwiseRed]

attacking children used to be common place when hb wasnt in nilly. had no idea nilly was against this now. good to know.

[DrRoach]

Drakar comonly seen refering to me as a "******", very toxic imo

?

[Drakaris]

attacking children used to be common place when hb wasnt in nilly. had no idea nilly was against this now. good to know.

Keep referring to stuff 2 years ago...

[SamwiseRed]

same people in nilly tho idiot. cmon man quit being so stupid. shit hurts my brain trying to understand how dense you are.

serious question, are you on drugs?

[DrRoach]

attacking children used to be common place when hb wasnt in nilly. had no idea nilly was against this now. good to know.

Oh shit samwise meltdown incoming. Still remember last time you spazzed out.

[SamwiseRed]

i dont, please enlighten me. oh is this the part when nilly posts pics of my kid and makes perverted remarks. ah man not again.

[DrRoach]

same people in nilly tho idiot. cmon man quit being so stupid. shit hurts my brain trying to understand how dense you are.

serious question, are you on drugs?

I wanna stab you in the fucking face



















































































With my ragebringer. Bluud <Nihilum>

[SamwiseRed]

who are you?

[DrRoach]

who are you?

Fenix

[SamwiseRed]

didnt know you had multiple personalities man. seek help or call me in RL. you were always a little nicer on fenix now that i mention it. i remember when you got drunk one night and apped nilly, you regretted it in the morning. if only i had seen the signs then. :(

[DrRoach]

didnt know you had multiple personalities man. seek help or call me in RL. you were always a little nicer on fenix now that i mention it. i remember when you got drunk one night and apped nilly, you regretted it in the morning. if only i had seen the signs then. :(

Besides you joining taken and backdooring your way into Nihilum teamspeak you have no idea what goes on. You just repeat what you read on forums until you believe it as fact

[SamwiseRed]

lol i didnt even go into their team speak i just ss to rustle jimmies. red was dead as fuck at the time so i started a char on blue while i medded on red. while there someone invited me to that guild.

also what i said was true, you told me yourself unless you arent fenix/feniggles

nilly ts is public i think, i was in there a few of months ago talking to someone. what joining taken as to do when joining a teamspeak server, i dont even?

[SamwiseRed]

somebody hulk slam these mother fuckahs

i agree we should take it to pms but i think he scured.

[DrRoach]

lol i didnt even go into their team speak i just ss to rustle jimmies. read was dead as fuck at the time and someone on blue invited me to that guild.

also what i said was true, you told me yourself unless you arent fenix/feniggles

nilly ts is public i think, i was in there a few of months ago talking to someone. what joining taken as to do when joining a teamspeak server, i dont even?

Taken and Nihilum use same teamspeak I don't think that's a secret. I have been on both sides. Nihilum is FUN. I won't troll you because I believe you are the main reason this server isn't still sitting at 20pop

[SamwiseRed]

i didnt know they used the same teamspeak til i started raiding with taken. never heard of 2 guild sharing a ts before. if you guys really think i was trying to spy, you are seriously paranoid as fuck. it was just nilly clearing classic, there was no resistance. what info could i have possibly obtained. was for the best tho. i was actually raiding too much on blue. shit started making me ill.

[DrRoach]

Samwise app to Nihilum, find out for yourself ill pm you when I get home

[SamwiseRed]

i cant even handle azrael raid schedule. nilly would drive me to suicide.

[Drakaris]

i cant even handle azrael raid schedule. nilly would drive me to suicide.

Yes, please stay there and while your at it log on your main more often instead of hiding behind OOR alts/port bots, we need people to kill ;)

[Feniggles]

i cant even handle azrael raid schedule. nilly would drive me to suicide.

Nizzar, Tune, Vaporize. In 8 months i've never seen them get a single piece of loot. Why do they keep raiding samwise?

[Ames who?]

Nizzar, Tune, Vaporize. In 8 months i've never seen them get a single piece of loot. Why do they keep raiding samwise?


one word u moran


ADDICTION

[Drakaris]

one word u moran


ADDICTION



At least it is a better answer than RMT; then I'd be forced to chew someone out.

[Feniggles]

one word u moran


ADDICTION



Its a guild, they help their members. i will meet you in neriak and beat you in chess wierdo

[Nirgon]

More dkp for Velious what do you think

Those 5th alts need as much ToV shit as they can get

[Fame]

good thread

[Feniggles]

More dkp for Velious what do you think

Those 5th alts need as much ToV shit as they can get

shaddup, watching that retard prince play your character ruined your credibility.

[Nirgon]

What do you meannnn Tune's logging on his alt for this item? I was so excited for Velious!

That is... if you guys kill anything where 1 camped out ninja dispeller can cause a wipe.

[Feniggles]

What do you meannnn Tune's logging on his alt for this item? I was so excited for Velious!

That is... if you guys kill anything where 1 camped out ninja dispeller can cause a wipe.

Nah, Naw, Kaw, NO

[Feniggles]

What do you meannnn Tune's logging on his alt for this item? I was so excited for Velious!

That is... if you guys kill anything where 1 camped out ninja dispeller can cause a wipe.

Cast got of jail/rehab i heard. Dr Roach hehe

[Nirgon]

It's kew doe, it's kew.

I loot all the rots at 6am for a couple months and I'm better at EverQuest cuz of dis instant invite guild tag u no?

http://id3442.securedata.net/cosmetic-dentistry/images/rodger%20smile%20before%20web.jpg

[Ames who?]

Its a guild, they help their members. i will meet you in neriak and beat you in chess wierdo

http://derpy.ponychan.net/chan/files/src/139830723579.gif

[Nirgon]

Problems related to stress and anxiety are common in people with Aspergers. In fact, this combination has been shown to be one of the most frequently observed comorbid symptoms. They are often triggered by or result directly from environmental stressors, such as:

• a sense of loss of control
• an inherent emotional vulnerability
• difficulty in predicting outcomes
• having to face challenging social situations with inadequate social awareness
• misperception of social events
• rigidity in moral judgment that results from a concrete sense of social justice violations.
• social problem-solving skills
• social understanding
• loot going to 3rd alts over nutswinger mains

[Terpuntine]

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/tumblr_ljh0puClWT1qfkt17.gif

[Colgate]

hey guys remember just the other day when drakar said i used a nodelay exploit to kill him, i posted a video proving otherwise, and then he still continued to say that i used a nodelay exploit to kill him?

haha

[Smedy]

videos dont mean shit, bulletproof made this clear when he refused to delete his character after a honorable 1v1

true scumbags reside in the ranks of nihilum

[Drakaris]

hey guys remember just the other day when drakar said i used a nodelay exploit to kill him, i posted a video proving otherwise, and then he still continued to say that i used a nodelay exploit to kill him?

haha

Quiet you! I was thinking of another monk in another situation... you killed my level 58 SK while you were fully raid buffed and had higher faction. Congrats?

[Genedin]

All aboard the pathetic excuses train! It's rolling out. Your conductor Drakaris is ready for departure.

[Colgate]

Quiet you! I was thinking of another monk in another situation... you killed my level 58 SK while you were fully raid buffed and had higher faction. Congrats?

but wasn't salem's 1v1 kill on you invalidated because he used a damage shield potion against you? that's exactly what you did to me

[Nothxu]

Just reading through this thread shows why posting on this forum is generally pretty pointless when you are trying to make a decision on which guild to join. My opinion is below, but take it with a grain of salt in that I have been in Nihilum since I have been on the server and played with some of the people in Nihilum on Sullon Zek during Live.

If you want to be the top guild in Velious, join Nihilum. Being the top guild means better leadership, reliable number of people raiding / actively playing, and more loot. I would also like to think the more mature players are on this side of the fence. The thickest neckbeards are here.

If you want to be the underdog in Velious, join Azrael. The underdog means less quality leadership (but still someone in charge), numbers that are less than reliable, probably better pvp fights because most of the time you have less people, and less loot. A lot of these people only log in when the going is good (which is why their numbers aren't as steady), but you do have some hardcore PVPers that PVP 24/7. In my time on the server, I have seen more Azrael griefers than Nihilum. (To me, griefing is not in range pvp, it is bind camping and twinking alts in unrest to kill new people on server)

That is the current state as it is now, but it could always turn around if the leadership situation changes in Nihilum, or Azrael works on appearing less toxic and gets better recruits.

Both guilds have their share of bad apples, and both guilds have had things happen in the past that they probably are not proud of. It is what happens when you have a low population server that has been around for years with server rules that have historically not been crystal clear and inconsistent punishments for infractions.

That being said, I think the server is the best now that it has ever been, and there has never been a better time to play on the Red server. Good luck with where you decide to end up, and at the end of the day, we all play this game because we enjoy the PVE and PVP aspects of one of the best games ever created. Turns out, Velious was the best expansion!

[SamwiseRed]

Just reading through this thread shows why posting on this forum is generally pretty pointless when you are trying to make a decision on which guild to join. My opinion is below, but take it with a grain of salt in that I have been in Nihilum since I have been on the server and played with some of the people in Nihilum on Sullon Zek during Live.

If you want to be the top guild in Velious, join Nihilum. Being the top guild means better leadership, reliable number of people raiding / actively playing, and more loot. I would also like to think the more mature players are on this side of the fence. The thickest neckbeards are here.

If you want to be the underdog in Velious, join Azrael. The underdog means less quality leadership (but still someone in charge), numbers that are less than reliable, probably better pvp fights because most of the time you have less people, and less loot. A lot of these people only log in when the going is good (which is why their numbers aren't as steady), but you do have some hardcore PVPers that PVP 24/7. In my time on the server, I have seen more Azrael griefers than Nihilum. (To me, griefing is not in range pvp, it is bind camping and twinking alts in unrest to kill new people on server)

That is the current state as it is now, but it could always turn around if the leadership situation changes in Nihilum, or Azrael works on appearing less toxic and gets better recruits.

Both guilds have their share of bad apples, and both guilds have had things happen in the past that they probably are not proud of. It is what happens when you have a low population server that has been around for years with server rules that have historically not been crystal clear and inconsistent punishments for infractions.

That being said, I think the server is the best now that is has ever been, and there has never been a better time to play on the Red server. Good luck with where you decide to end up, and at the end of the day, we all play this game because we enjoy the PVE and PVP aspects of one of the best games ever created. Turns out, Velious was the best expansion!

I am surprised you wrote this. Pretty acurate.

[hivemind]

lol i didnt even go into their team speak i just ss to rustle jimmies. red was dead as fuck at the time so i started a char on blue while i medded on red. while there someone invited me to that guild.

also what i said was true, you told me yourself unless you arent fenix/feniggles

nilly ts is public i think, i was in there a few of months ago talking to someone. what joining taken as to do when joining a teamspeak server, i dont even?

Always knew you were the bluest dude on the box. How much more "prof" u want? Get any blue plat for that cloak btw?

[SamwiseRed]

nope got much much more. hooked my bro up sick on blue. mad?

also who are you?

[Drakaris]

but wasn't salem's 1v1 kill on you invalidated because he used a damage shield potion against you? that's exactly what you did to me

I'm surprised you are even trying to consider your fight vs skar a 1v1 when your buff bar is filled with cleric, chanter and shaman buffs. It's almost like you guys box buff mules everywhere.... ;)

Salem challenged me to an honor duel and it was agreed no buffs. Sly prick got a shaman to fully buff him and used a ds pot, winning the fight by 2%

Lesson learned azrael have no honor, if I want an honor duel with any of their members better get a gm to organise it. You guys plain suck and can't fight without the upper hand. No wonder you get smashed with equal numbers and always make excuses about being out geared or outzerged, I guess you always need that upper hand.

[SamwiseRed]

I'm surprised you are even trying to consider your fight vs skar a 1v1 when your buff bar is filled with cleric, chanter and shaman buffs. It's almost like you guys box buff mules everywhere.... ;)

Salem challenged me to an honor duel and it was agreed no buffs. Sly prick got a shaman to fully buff him and used a ds pot, winning the fight by 2%

Lesson learned azrael have no honor, if I want an honor duel with any of their members better get a gm to organise it. You guys plain suck and can't fight without the upper hand. No wonder you get smashed with equal numbers and always make excuses about being out geared or outzerged, I guess you always need that upper hand.

god prof? those are some pretty serious accusations.

[hivemind]

nope got much much more. hooked my bro up sick on blue. mad?

also who are you?

hivemind nilly app already in. deal with it.

basically a faggot.

Pity reply.

[SamwiseRed]

so you are a faggot?

i think you just forumquested yourself lol moron.

too easy

[hivemind]

nope got much much more. hooked my bro up sick on blue. mad?

also who are you?

so you are a faggot?

i think you just forumquested yourself lol moron.

too easy

You know me more intimately than most Sam, which was curious since you claimed to not who I was at all only moments ago. Don't be ashamed... poor thing.

[SamwiseRed]

i guessed you were a nilly app. big whoop thats 90% of the server. other than that i have no idea who you are.

so again i repeat. who are you?

[hivemind]

Sam, there's no reason to feel bad about being wrong when no one is ever going to expect you to be right. I will always accept you for who you are, even if you can't at times.

Pras Samwise, the bluest dude on the box.

[SamwiseRed]

Sorry man, I am not following you. Wrong about what? You crazy bro?

[Drakaris]

god prof? those are some pretty serious accusations.

Lol blueby can't read buff bars in screenshots his own guildies posted to gloat about the kills in the first place. Talk about a double fail .

[SamwiseRed]

no i mean you got prof that a 1v1 without buffs was agreed too duh.

/facepalm

cmon guys if you are going to forumquest you gotta back your shit up. jesus this turning into 4chan. just stop.

[hivemind]

Oh -- it just occured to me the OP was interested in getting an "unbiased" perspective on the end-game guild situation. I wasn't directly posting about the topic at hand, but I suppose we have gotten a raw (albeit biased), but honest-to-Prexus perspective of Nihilum. At least from Sam's (Azrael) perspective:


Whats a nilly app?

basically a faggot.

In regards to your most recent cognitive troubles:

Sorry man, I am not following you. Wrong about what? You crazy bro?

I am not actually a nilly app... Not everyone you are mad at happens to be a member (or applicant) of the *EVIL NASTY NIHILUM LEGION*.

[Colgate]

I'm surprised you are even trying to consider your fight vs skar a 1v1 when your buff bar is filled with cleric, chanter and shaman buffs. It's almost like you guys box buff mules everywhere.... ;)

Salem challenged me to an honor duel and it was agreed no buffs. Sly prick got a shaman to fully buff him and used a ds pot, winning the fight by 2%

Lesson learned azrael have no honor, if I want an honor duel with any of their members better get a gm to organise it. You guys plain suck and can't fight without the upper hand. No wonder you get smashed with equal numbers and always make excuses about being out geared or outzerged, I guess you always need that upper hand.

i didn't have shaman buffs in that video l o l

once again drakar making things up to try and save face against the fact that he died on elf sim countless times and is currently one of the biggest laughing stocks in box history

[SamwiseRed]

I'm not even in Azrael but ya ok lol

Got booted out of The Mighty Ducks the other day for slaying zerglings in OOT tho. Sad times.

[hivemind]

cmon guys if you are going to forumquest you gotta back your shit up. jesus this turning into 4chan. just stop.

I'm not even in Azrael but ya ok lol


You can't be serious... Let me put my reaction into words that you can maybe understand yourself:

Sorry man, I am not following you. Wrong about what? You crazy bro?

[SamwiseRed]

Filth? Only person I can think of that is that stupid.

[FaithlessKR]

Filth? Only person I can think of that is that stupid.

Elderan?

[Drakaris]

i didn't have shaman buffs in that video l o l

once again drakar making things up to try and save face against the fact that he died on elf sim countless times and is currently one of the biggest laughing stocks in box history

What class is the first to get sow then? I knew you were going to say that without realising I had counted sow as a shaman buff (even if it can be castes by other classes and potions). Perhaps I'm stretching things there, but you definitely had full buffs from the other 2 classes mentioned.

[kylok]

What class is the first to get sow then? I knew you were going to say that without realising I had counted sow as a shaman buff (even if it can be castes by other classes and potions). Perhaps I'm stretching things there, but you definitely had full buffs from the other 2 classes mentioned.

[FaithlessKR]

What class is the first to get sow then? I knew you were going to say that without realising I had counted sow as a shaman buff (even if it can be castes by other classes and potions). Perhaps I'm stretching things there, but you definitely had full buffs from the other 2 classes mentioned.

http://meme.smhlmao.com/media/created/59kmo1.jpg

[SamwiseRed]

dont worry guys, im just stretching things.

[Genedin]

This thread has gone beyond sad. I'm really curious as to why Drak even posts anymore. Guy has sullied his reputation beyond repair this last month.

Then we've got hivemind who can only be a handful of people.

[Drakaris]

Oh ok let's just ignore the fact that Colgate was running faster , had twice as many hp as he normally should with 10-20% more AC and more dex with 50%+ more haste. I don't see you guys going "get drakar, I know you have 300-400 ping being in a different country, I want to be a good sport and give you a handicap so it's a measure of skill" before coming here to gloat about winning. I see a bunch of shady players trying to get any possible advantage they can (using boxed buff mules or otherwise) and gloating at every turn even they have no true skill to display.

If you want to gloat about skill, play a game that pays competitive players. Don't shit up this server by pretentiously believing eq is a game that it isn't designed to be.

[kylok]

Oh ok let's just ignore the fact that Colgate was running faster , had twice as many hp as he normally should with 10-20% more AC and more dex with 50%+ more haste. I don't see you guys going "get drakar, I know you have 300-400 ping being in a different country, I want to be a good sport and give you a handicap so it's a measure of skill" before coming here to gloat about winning. I see a bunch of shady players trying to get any possible advantage they can (using boxed buff mules or otherwise) and gloating at every turn even they have no true skill to display.

If you want to gloat about skill, play a game that pays competitive players. Don't shit up this server by pretentiously believing eq is a game that it isn't designed to be.

Have you tried blue lately? Seems like you'd fit in real well over there...

[Drakaris]

Have you tried blue lately? Seems like you'd fit in real well over there...

Nah but you guys post screenshots and gloat as if killing an unbuffed level 58 sk over 2 months ago is an epic achievement and I should somehow be ashamed of myself for losing that fight. What a crock of horse shit.

[kylok]

Nah but you guys post screenshots and gloat as if killing an unbuffed level 58 sk over 2 months ago is an epic achievement and I should somehow be ashamed of myself for losing that fight. What a crock of horse shit.

Should definitely be ashamed of being so rustled all this time later. PvP happened and you're mad... see why you're getting trolled?

[Drakaris]

Should definitely be ashamed of being so rustled all this time later. PvP happened and you're mad... see why you're getting trolled?

If I'm actually mad, I'd stop posting and avoid you nerds altogether. It's easy to step away and live in the real world when it's so good.

[kylok]

http://i.imgur.com/3pbJQRg.png
http://www.reactionface.info/sites/default/files/imagecache/Node_Page/images/1351116165579.gif

[Colgate]

let's not forget that the reason the video was posted was because drakar was claiming i killed him with a nodelay exploit in under 10 seconds

and then he still claimed it was a nodelay exploit after the video was posted

haha

[hivemind]

http://i.imgur.com/3pbJQRg.png


Samwise with the #1 post count in this thread, probably aggregating the least amount of intelligible or otherwise non-contradictory/tautologically-false material out of anyone so far. Also, certainly the person who cares the least about maintaining some semblance of a care especially as it would pertain to a guild that he is self-allegedly not even a part of.

Pras Sam the bluest dude on the box and a forum hero!

[SamwiseRed]

ya thats pretty bad of me. had to swat several gnats tho.

[kylok]

Sam trying to challenge Nirgon for top poster.

[Ames who?]

Samwise with the #1 post count in this thread, probably aggregating the least amount of intelligible or otherwise non-contradictory/tautologically-false material out of anyone so far. Also, certainly the person who cares the least about maintaining some semblance of a care especially as it would pertain to a guild that he is self-allegedly not even a part of.

Pras Sam the bluest dude on the box and a forum hero!

http://littlefun.org/uploads/5217a194c856110b13000006_736.jpg

[Drakaris]

let's not forget that the reason the video was posted was because drakar was claiming i killed him with a nodelay exploit in under 10 seconds

and then he still claimed it was a nodelay exploit after the video was posted

haha

Quiet you. It was either you or Krazy that was abusing the shit out of it in pvp. I generally put all Azrael monks in the same basket, it seems to be a guild requirement to be a complete douchebag and I can't often tell you guys apart.

[SamwiseRed]

cant tell the difference between a human and an iksar?

[Colgate]

Quiet you. It was either you or Krazy that was abusing the shit out of it in pvp. I generally put all Azrael monks in the same basket, it seems to be a guild requirement to be a complete douchebag and I can't often tell you guys apart.

no one in azrael knew of that exploit until brobb mentioned it in teamspeak when we were in plane of fear one day, and within 30 minutes the server was restarted to hotfix the issue because we reported it

sickpuppy never left that raid on his monk before it got fixed

you're a crybaby that just makes up random bullshit so people won't think you're as terrible as you actually are at this 15 year old elf simulator

[hivemind]

To keep keep things relevant to the OP... here we have Drakaris's (Nihilum) very own and very biased view of Azrael (monks of course--he doesn't seem like the type of guy to make "generalizations"):

I generally put all Azrael monks in the same basket, it seems to be a guild requirement to be a complete douchebag and I can't often tell you guys apart.


And here we again have Samwise's (Azrael -- or as he likes to say "Not Azrael") unfiltered and (naturally) biased perspective :


Whats a nilly app?

basically a faggot.

I would say that as far as generalizations go, these two posters paint a fairly accurate and detailed picture of what the server is like "end game."

[heartbrand]

Wut wuz this thread about btw saw I posted 10 times in it but not sure what about

[hivemind]

1)Samwise with the #1 post count in this thread, 2)probably aggregating the least amount of intelligible or otherwise non-contradictory/tautologically-false material out of anyone so far. 3) Also, certainly the person who cares the least about maintaining some semblance of a care 4)especially as it would pertain to a guild that he is self-allegedly not even a part of.

Pras Sam the bluest dude on the box and a forum hero!

http://littlefun.org/uploads/5217a194c856110b13000006_736.jpg

1) Samwise has the highest post count in this thread.
2) It is probable (ie likely) that Sam has posted the least amount of sensible, understandable, non-contradictory or otherwise non-false information. (See his posts I referenced, riddled with contradictions and false hypotheses (when his posts are intelligible at all.))
3) He seems to care the least out of anyone in this thread, which can be deduced from his post count for the thread (sarcasm).
4) This makes sense especially because it's not like Samwise is in either of the two guilds ... Azrael or Nihilum, since he already explicitly said that he isn't in Azrael (sarcasm).

Conclusion: Samwise has a big heart but makes nearly no sense. His anger/frustration are more intelligible than the words he uses to try to express himself.

Meta-conclusion: The two end game guilds are filled with people like Sam and Drakar who have a hard time not categorizing the people they don't like as evil/scummy/hacking/hate-worthy villainous members from their respective opposing guilds. Nothing fresh about the end game on this server, just deep seated frustrations and unresolved emotional issues between members of each guild that proliferates unnecessary anger and hate not only in the end game, but on these forums and across most avenues of this server.

[heartbrand]

Yaw I'd agree with that assessment. Bonus points for using the term meta conclusion.

[SamwiseRed]

http://thumbs.newschoolers.com/index.php?src=http://media.tumblr.com/d4deb18a2d3e0877e38524b731e5b55a/tumblr_inline_mmt9xoqhuy1qz4rgp.gif&size=400x1000

[Drakaris]

Meta-conclusion: The two end game guilds are filled with people like Sam and Drakar who have a hard time not categorizing the people they don't like as evil/scummy/hacking/hate-worthy villainous members from their respective opposing guilds. Nothing fresh about the end game on this server, just deep seated frustrations and unresolved emotional issues between members of each guild that proliferates unnecessary anger and hate not only in the end game, but on these forums and across most avenues of this server.

Don't put me in that bucket. Go back and see how many threads Azrael have started to shit talk about me because they killed me in pvp before you assume it isn't warranted. They make PvP a joke with their synchronised guild plugs, boxed buffers for small scale pvp and tremendous amounts of shit talk all over the forums about how they owned the opposition.

I'm just trying to balance the equation while I have the time ;)

[Colgate]

you're a delusional retard; that's why everyone shit talks and makes fun of you

[phacemeltar]

So what I am asking for next might be the hardest thing ever for some of you forum quest people. Try your best to not land this in rants and flames.

i lol'd

[Drakaris]

you're a delusional retard; that's why everyone shit talks and makes fun of you

So you are basically saying Azrael don't gloat about every PvP encounter they come out ahead in on the forums (even if shady PvE aggro is involved) or engage in synchronised guild plugs?

Do you want me to start digging out threads gloating about shit that doesn't include me specifically?

I'd say you got your head too far up your own arse to see the light of my point. No delusions involved here.

[Colgate]

99% of the shit you say makes zero sense and you ignore all facts like eldermoran

has nothing to do with your statement that people gloat about beating the guild with the most players, most gear, staff members, etc.

[Drakaris]

99% of the shit you say makes zero sense and you ignore all facts like eldermoran

has nothing to do with your statement that people gloat about beating the guild with the most players, most gear, staff members, etc.

Are you that retarded you can't see the thread?

So part of my post is this:
They make PvP a joke with their synchronised guild plugs, boxed buffers for small scale pvp and tremendous amounts of shit talk all over the forums about how they owned the opposition.

You quoted the whole post calling me a delusional retard, how is that part of the point delusional?

You straight out admitted its the truth and there is nothing wrong with the underdog gloating because they are the underdog.

The problem is simply this: Azrael was not the underdog for 2 whole months and it didn't change shit.

You guys display poor sportsmanship. End of story.

[Colgate]

Go back and see how many threads Azrael have started to shit talk about me because they killed me in pvp before you assume it isn't warranted.

you're a delusional retard; that's why everyone shit talks and makes fun of you

ok

[Drakaris]

ok

You keep digging up 3 month old screenshots and you expect me to remember shit like yesterday then call me a delusional retard because my recollections are relative to more than 1 event.

Real mature you brainless fuck.

[Colgate]

well maybe it was the fact that you kept crying about an exploit even after the video was posted, and you can't possibly be serious if you think that's the only instance of you being a delusional retard that i'm making this statement about

[iiNGloriouS]

Skar is definitely the worst if not bottom 3 SKs on R99. Almost killed this kid on Chipp in a 1v1 before he ran deep into Cabilis, pretty fuckin' sad.

[Drakaris]

Skar is definitely the worst if not bottom 3 SKs on R99. Almost killed this kid on Chipp in a 1v1 before he ran deep into Cabilis, pretty fuckin' sad.

So if I got 2 y/t on lite 4 hours apart does that make him the worst player on the server?

Lol

[Bazia]

Skar is definately no Frenziedkilla

[Drakaris]

Skar is definately no Frenziedkilla

Got a yt on against sektorss with a 56-59 rogue both fighting against skar today, with me on 100% at the end of the fight. Quality of azrael members taking a massive slump.

It's ok boys keep posting ancient screenshots. It was only the other day I was laughing at Beastagor who is the self proclaimed king of cabilis because I actually had higher faction than him. Was funny watching him chain inspect me before running to the crusaders.

Keep on fighting the good fight. . Wait. . Keep on training the alpha guild. . . No fights to be seen here. .

Azrael hasn't engaged us in mass pvp since they got decimated in that 48 vs 52(-1 for afk cleric who got instagibbed at zl) 2 weeks ago! Pussies scurrying in the gutter like rats in a cellar when the lights come on.

[Bazia]

frenziedkilla is terrible it was a joke dude relax

[Ames who?]

frenziedkilla is terrible it was a joke dude relax

frenziedkilla is also a convicted felon